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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 04/10/2011 12:53

We need a new thread already.

I hope this thread will give support to those suffering from the Horrors of
Hyperemesis, and that it will help to talk to other sufferers and those who have survived it.

There is no such thing as tmi here - the nature of the illness means that you have to be graphic when discussing it - and feel free to moan all you wish. You have reason to!

I want to thank FluffyWhiteKittens MOH Grumblin LA Caramel NitNat Coconuts Luce Grandma TheOnly and current sufferers MaryLou PearlFeekerry and many others who have been invaluable on the former threads. My apologies to anyone I've rudely overlooked, I daren't keep gabbling too long, or I might put off current sufferers.

Remember, when you are at your worst, the words from the Eastern story: - 'This Too Shall Pass.' It will...

Below is some brilliant information from MOH's website www.pregnancysicknesssos.co.uk. However, if you don't feel up to reading it now, feel free to skip it for now and have a good moan.

Hyperemesis gravidarum (HG) is a severe form of pregnancy sickness which affects between 1 and 3% of pregnant women. Historically, it was mistakenly thought to be a psychosomatic illness and women were treated as though they had a psychotic disorder. This view has been comprehensively disproven by numerous research papers in recent decades, and it is now known to be an illness of organic origin, although its causes have yet to be fully understood. There is a persistent common belief that no drugs should be given to women in the first trimester of pregnancy. This is not true. There are a number of effective anti-emetic (anti sickness) drugs which can safely be taken in early pregnancy. Unfortunately, the erroneous views that HG is a psychosomatic conditions and that no drugs are safe in the first trimester still persists in many places, shockingly, even amongst GPs and midwives. Sadly, many women still come across unsympathetic health professionals who are ignorant of current treatment methods.

How do I know if I have HG?
If you are suffering from persistent nausea and/or vomiting which is preventing you from eating and/or drinking then you may be suffering from HG. With ordinary nausea and vomiting of pregnancy (NVP), the sickness does not interfere with your ability to eat and drink enough, you should not be losing weight and you should be able to continue to care for yourself and your family although you may not be feeling too great. With HG, sufferers often need help caring for themselves, never mind look after their family. The illness can be completely debilitating for weeks or even months. If you're not sure, the HER foundation website who have a fact sheet to help you determine whether or not you are suffering from HG
www.helpher.org/mothers/hyperemesis-or-morning-sickness/index.php

Diagnosis is important as you will inevitably become dehydrated and you will need to be admitted to hospital for IV rehydration. Starvation is another risk. When your body burns fat for energy, it produces chemicals called ketones which can be detected in your urine. You can monitor your levels of starvation using ketosticks, available from pharmacies. You pee on the stick and it monitors your levels of ketones. If levels are high, you should tell your doctor or midwife. If you are worried about dehydration and ketone levels and you can't see your doctor or midwife, you can go to A&E.

Facts and Figures and FAQs

HG is worse in the first trimester for the majority of sufferers, though a significant proportion (10 ? 20%) suffer for the entire duration of the pregnancy. If you have close relatives (mothers, sisters) who have had HG, you are also at significantly higher risk of being a sufferer yourself. HG is the most common cause of hospitalisation of pregnant women in the first trimester.

Is it worse carrying a boy or a girl?
There is conflicting evidence as to whether having a boy or a girl makes HG worse, some studies say boys, some say girls.

Is it worse with twins?
Yes there is evidence that carrying more than one baby makes HG worse.

Will my baby be ok?
Babies born to HG mothers are usually absolutely fine. If you lose some weight during the first trimester the risks for the baby are low as it does not need much nutrition at this time and your body should have enough stores from before your pregnancy. However, if you continue to to lose weight due to lack of treatment or failed treatment, then there is an increased risk of low birth weight or pre-term birth. Studies show that this is a risk for women who are severely ill, are dehydrated for long periods and lose more than 10% of their body weight.

There is also growing evidence of long term health effects in some children born to mothers who suffer malnutrition in pregnancy. In some cases this is not evident until adulthood with increased risk of chronic conditions such as diabetes and hypertension.
For more information see forums.helpher.org/viewtopic.php?t=18 and www.helpher.org/hyperemesis-gravidarum/complications/fetal-programming.php

I've heard that being sick is a sign of a healthy pregnancy, is this the case with HG?
You will often be told that morning sickness is a good sign and you should be happy that you're feeling sick. This is generally the case with normal NVP, however, it is not the case with untreated HG. There is actually a higher risk of pre-term birth and low birth weight. However, continuing to feel sick may be a sign that the pregnancy is still progressing. Some women with HG who miscarried reported that the first sign was that they suddenly stopped feeling sick.

What are the treatments?
Initially you will be advised to use non-pharmacoligical strategies which are similar to the general advice given to any pregnant women suffering from nausea. These include eating little and often, eating protein-rich, low-fat meals, avoiding triggers of nausea such as strong smells and getting enough rest. You can try ginger, seabands (accupressure wristbands used for travel sickness) and extra doses of vitamin B6. Avoid getting out of bed in the morning without something in your stomach such as a tea biscuit or cracker. Some women find that these give relief in the initial stages of HG but they become ineffective once the illness is in full swing.

The next line of treatment is prescribed antiemetics such as phenergan, cyclizine, stemetil and ondansetron. For many women these work well and control the nausea and vomiting enough for them to eat and drink normally and regain some of their lost weight. Many can even return to normal life. You may find that one antiemetic on its own is not effective and you may need to try different combinations but you can discuss this with your doctor. Even with antiemetics, you will probably still need to use coping strategies such as getting extra rest, eating small frequent meals and avoiding triggers when the HG is at its peak. If you are dehydrated, you may be admitted to hospital for IV fluids. Minerals and vitamins can be added to the drip to replace any you may have lost, as well as antiemetics.

Unfortunately, antiemetics don't work for everyone. If they are ineffective, you should be referred to an obstetrician (if you haven't been already) for the next line of treatment, which will probably be steroids. These carry a small risk of cleft palate, but this will be discussed with your doctor. In a small number of cases even this is not effective and drastic treatments such as feeding with a tube directly into the stomach may have to be considered.

My GP is unsympathetic and refuses to prescribe me drugs - what should I do?
Unfortunately this experience is all too common. In this case you should see another GP if possible. You should also ask for a referral to an obstetrician. If you remain untreated and become dehydrated, you can have yourself admitted to A&E for IV fluids and ask to be seen by an obstetrician.

Do alternative remedies work?

Some women are greatly helped by alternative medicine, particularly Homepathy and Acupunture. Some women can claim to have had the illness 'stopped in its tracks' by Acupunture, but success varies between individual patients and it tends to be expensive. These remedies are worth a try if you can afford it but have a back up plan incase it doesn't work.

How long will this last for?
For most women, HG peaks in the first trimester and tails off or disappears completely later in the pregnancy. The usual advice for morning sickness is that it will improve after 12 weeks. The majority of HG sufferers find that it takes longer than this. Unfortunately, some women suffer severely for the entire pregnancy. Others find that it improves, but they suffer from nausea and occasional vomiting until birth. Relapse is quite common especially if you have tried to return to your normal busy life. There is a great temptation to make up for lost time and become very active once you start to feel better, but this very often leads to the nausea returning. You should be very careful about resuming work and normal household activities even if you feel as though you're up to it. Be careful too about stopping your medication, do it very gradually and resume at the first sign of the condition returning. You may have to continue to take it for the entire pregnancy to prevent a relapse.
All I can drink is coke, I'm worried that I'm not eating a healthy diet.

Through pregnancy, we are bombarded with advice about what to eat and what not to eat. Women with HG often find that the list of food and drinks that they can keep down is very small and not at all from the healthy options. For some reason, women with Hyperemesis ofen find sweet and salty foods ie, sweet drinks like coke, and crisps, are more likely to stay down than healthy foods. Their peculiar diet can lead to disapproving comments and the incorrect assumption that this is how they normally eat.
Various women find different drinks acceptable. Coke (often left to go flat) Lucozade, lemonade, milkshakes and IronBru, Dr Pepper, orange squash, apple juice, lime juice, ice cubes made of flat coke or just tapwater, ice lollies and sips of tepid water can help in keeping rehydrated. 

When the illness is at its worst during the early hormonal surges - typically between eight and ten weeks- then it is difficult to retain any liquids and you may need to be hospitalised for rehydration at about this time. 

When solids do become bearable,jelly, tinned fruit, ice lollies, ice cream, crisps, fish fingers, potato cakes, crumpets, soda bread and similar potato based or salty foods have often been found to be acceptable.

The important thing to remember at this time is that it doesn't matter what you eat or drink, the crucial thing is that you eat or drink something. Don't forego something because you are worried that it's bad for you. In a normal diet, too much salt and sugar is bad for you, but when you consume nothing else, this may be your only source of calories, fluid and salt for the day. Instead of berating yourself for your unhealthy diet, congratulate yourself that you have kept something down because your body needs it. If you are able to take vitamin tablets or syrups, then do so but most women find that large multivitamin tablets make the nausea worse. You may be able to get vitamins that dissolve under your tongue which you may be able to tolerate. If and when you begin to feel better, you can start to re-introduce more healthy food.

Will it go away when I give birth?
The good news is that for the vast majority of sufferers the physical symptoms of HG disappear completely as soon as the baby is born. You should be aware though that it is not unknown for the nausea to persist after birth especially if you have been severely ill. If this occurs, speak to your doctor. For women who suffered persistent, long term nausea and vomiting, it may take some time to restore energy levels and nutritional reserves. Moreover, while the physical symptoms may leave, the trauma of HG can leave an emotional legacy for many women, especially when combined with the rigours of caring for a baby. If you have any concerns, speak to your doctor or midwife. Don't feel that you should just be able to pick yourself up and get on with things, if you're having problems you are entitled to seek support.

Will I get it in my next pregnancy and will it be the same?
Unfortunately, having HG in one pregnancy puts you at a high risk of suffering in subsequent pregnancies although it is possible to escape it. Some women find that the HG gets better in subsequent pregnancies, whereas others find it stays the same or gets worse. There is really no way of knowing how your pregnancies will relate to each other.

Can I do anything to prepare for HG incase I get it again in my next pregnancy?
The HER website has a page of advice on preparing for your next pregnancy. forums.helpher.org/viewtopic.php?t=17. If you had medication which worked for you in your previous pregnancy, make sure that you have it ready to take as soon as you feel ill. Studies show that the quicker you get on top of the sickness, the better the medication works. Because HG can start within days of missing your period, see your GP as soon as you know you're pregnant.

Useful sources of information
The Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists in the UK have no guidelines on the treatment and management of HG. However, the American College of Obs/Gynae (ACOG) and the Society of Obs/Gynae of Canada (SOGC) have published guidelines which can be found at the following sites

www.sogc.org/guidelines/public/120E-CPG-October2002.pdf 

www.guideline.gov/content.aspx?id=10939

Pregnancy Sickness Support is a UK based organisation run by GPs and midwives with direct experience of HG. They have a helpline which you can call for advice ? if nobody answers you leave a message and a midwife will call you back. They will be able to answer your questions about treatments and they keep a note of doctors around the country who are known to be sympathetic to HG sufferers and are willing to treat it with medication. Their website is at www.pregnancy sicknesssupport.org.uk

The Hyperemesis Education and Research Foundation (HER) is a US based foundation which was formed by HG survivors and has a mission to research the causes of HG and provide information and support for other sufferers. They have links to the latest scientific research and are actively involved in funding research, although you usually have to live in the USA to take part. There are loads of threads on every topic related to HG from women who have been through it, including very useful information about which treatment regimes worked. Their website is at www.hyperemesis.org.
Dealing with well meaning but unhelpful advice

Women with HG are often told by friends and family that it's just morning sickness, a normal part of pregnancy and you just have to put up with it. Many HG sufferers report extreme frustration at being advised to try ginger, dry crackers or eat little and often. Most of them have tried every remedy they can think of to no avail. Because most women are familiar with NVP, there is often an attitude of, well I had morning sickness and I just got on with it. HG sufferers are often left with the feeling that they are whingers and malingerers and that if only they could adopt a positive attitude then they would be fine. This can lead to further depression in what is already a depressive condition. In order to deal with this, it is important that the HG sufferer has some supportive friends or family who can firmly but politely fend off these comments. The sufferer will often have no energy to deal with it herself. If possible explain to the person giving the advice that you are not suffering from morning sickness, you are suffering from a condition called hyperemesis gravidarum.

I have never known anyone with HG. Where can I talk to women who understand how I feel?
There is a support thread on the talk boards here (ask MT to add link) which is run by sufferers and ex-sufferers. There are discussions of practical issues such as tips for coping and medication but the real value of this forum is that you get sympathy and understanding from people who know exactly what you're going through. If you just want to moan or let off steam, you are free to do so and nobody will hold it against you. Comments are also welcome from relatives, partners, friends and carers of HG sufferers. The HER website also has talk boards at forums.helpher.org/. There is also a UK based yahoo group called Bloomingawful at health.groups.yahoo.com/group/bloomingawful/

Finally from me, here's a list of due dates. Do add yourself when you feel up to it.

ElliottsMummy: EDD 25/9/11
Mancbird: EDD 08/10/11
AgBag: EDD 18/10/11
HeftyMutha: EDD 28/10/11
Littlewizz: EDD 6/11/11
CakeForBreakfast: EDD 07/11/11
Marylou: EDD 9/11/11
MotherofPearl: EDD 17/11/11
Eggy: EDD 30/11/11
LadyOTCM: 01/12/11
Diddygirl: EDD 19/12/11
Bensgirl: EDD
Alias: EDD ??/12?11
m1nn1e: EDD ??/01/12
Angel: 16/01/12
Seapie: 30/01/12
Louby86: EDD 17/02/12
MummyMccar: 23/02/12
Feekerry 19/03/2012
Magnum White 26/03/2012
Helibee 25/04/2012
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LucindaE · 15/03/2012 10:23

LittlePlastic I can only echo MOH - surely they can increase the dose? It must be so exhausting. Do keep checking for ketones, I find it incredible that you aren't dehydrated...How much fluid do you manage to retain (I know it's difficult to asess?). Welcome back and as others say, this is most likely the worst stage, as you know...
Cosmo I do so hope twenty two weeks is the magic number!
Magnum Ah, shame about disappointment, but lets keep hoping it's an early sign.
Horsey How are things? Meebles?
Lucinda
xx

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horseynewmum · 15/03/2012 10:40

Morning all

Plastic as MOH and Lucinda have said it sounds like you need you dose upping.

I'm okay today. My hip is giving me jip and kept me up most the night (usually something LOL) so going to do an on-line shop then a nap I think is in order.

Hope everyone is coping ok

horseynewmum · 15/03/2012 17:54

Just popping on just to say that I weighed myself today. I'm now 3lb heavier then my pre pregnancy weight but I have lost about 1 half stones in first trimester. Slowly weight has come on again

MotherofPearl · 16/03/2012 08:31

Wow Horsey, to only have gained 3lb shows how sick you've been. Most people really pile on the pounds when PG! Hope everyone feeling OK today?

horseynewmum · 16/03/2012 09:34

Thank you mother it just shows what HG has done to my body. Proof its a serve condition. I'm all baby (just hope its not too big)

Littleplasticpeople · 16/03/2012 11:08

Thanks for the advice, I think the reason that the dose is low is simply due to the cost! I have a lovely understanding doctor, I will ask her if we can try a higher dose.

It is the late afternoons and evenings when I am in a really bad way, which then means I feel crap all night and end each day on a real downer.
Mornings are bearable, I always keep my breakfast down (morning sickness indeed!) so have been eating boiled eggs, toady, and folic acid fortified cereal.

Do any of you ever doubt yourselves? Sometimes when I read the antenatal thread and people are complaint of feeling nauseous or being sick, and then they go on to list things they've done that day, I think maybe I'm just being a wimp. I literally struggle to read a bedtime story to my dcs, let alone go for lunch, supermarket etc etc it's no wonder health care pros don't diagnose often if pople like me are dubious about it!

Littleplasticpeople · 16/03/2012 11:09

Toady?? toast!

Littleplasticpeople · 16/03/2012 11:14

Oh and forgot to answer cosmo, I actually have two dcs aged 4 and 3. But only my first pg was HG , the second was almost sickness free, infact I hardly remember the first trimester. Stark contrast to my first, I look back on the first trimester as the darkest days. That's why I have gone for a 3rd dc, given false hope by my second pg! I can safely say that (assuming this ends well) I will never do this again!

LucindaE · 16/03/2012 11:19

Plastic You are not being a wimp, never think so. The sort of sickness the others are talking about is controllable. It's like the difference between a headache and a migraine; you can soldier on with one, the other pole axes you.
A lot of women who've had Hyperemesis go on to have controllable nausea, and cope easily with it. do ask the GP to up the meds, you shouldn't be suffering so if it can be avoided.
Horsey Congratulations on weight gain, but that was a considerable weight loss to make up for!
Waves to MOP and Everyone.
Lucinda
xx

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Belladons · 16/03/2012 16:59

Hi all

I am 22 weeks and have just had 2 weeks completely sick free,I kept taking Cylizine, but cut out my doses of Metoclopramide as a test. Monday morning I was back to square one, uncontrollable vomiting until Wednesday, absolutely nothing staying down and ketones back to 4++, so back to hospital I went for a 10th time!!!!! I am now out and back to taking both meds along with my daily dose of thiamine and anti-acid twice daily. No sickness today - hurrah! I just wonder how you know when it is safe to reduce meds? I am worried about still being dependant this far into my pregnancy?

Like horseynewmum I have not really kept weight on, have only just reached my pre-pregnancy weight after losing a stone and a half - baby seems very happy though, it's madness isn't it how they survive this!

This weeks addiction - Sorbet, goes down a treat!

LucindaE · 16/03/2012 18:28

BelladonsTen times in hospital? 'The horror, the horror...'. Poor you, that is dreadful, and I wonder they didn't try you on Ondansetron, or did Cylazine suit you better? I thnk everyone would say that you can't help but be dependent on drugs in that sort of situation, you mustn't blame yourself. Plus four sounds serious.
Do forgive me, trying to find you on thread, know name, not sure what state of play was when last you posted? For sure it has been serious since!
Lucinda

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theonlyhb2 · 16/03/2012 19:22

i have just put up a proper bathroom cabinet and sorted thru my box of drugs.....wow what a lot of pills I have! I have 2 lots of ant-sickness i don't even remember taking!

LucindaE · 17/03/2012 10:16

TheOnly Hello there, take your usual seat in the Pink Castle and I will take baby Smile. Lol about unfamiliar meds, the only good thing being that they didn't begrudge prescribing...
Belladons and Everyone I hope you are doing OK today?
Lucinda
xx

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MOH100 · 17/03/2012 21:09

belladons I think lots of us have been there, you think it's cured then swiftly realise it's the meds that have been keeping you ok. I did successfully dose reduce though, I was on buccastem and ondansetron and I cut out the buccastem, but I did it really gradually, I was on 4 pills per day, so I cut down to 3 for 3 days, then 2 for 3 days, then 1 for 3 days before stopping. A few weeks earlier I had tried this and got to day 3 and realised that although I hadn't actually been sick again, I was back to lying in bed with a bucket by the bedside and thought, no this is a backward step and just went back on full dose again for a couple more weeks. Later on I tried 3 times to stop the ondansetron. I managed to get down to one pill a day by slowly reducing as before, but every time I tried to stop completely the nausea came back so I gave up giving up and just stayed on one a day till the end. It's hard to tell when it's ok to cut them out, but you just have to do it really really gradually and if there's any slight sign of relapse, get back on them pronto. I know of a lot of other women who took meds till birth. If you need them you need them and they won't do any harm.

horseynewmum · 19/03/2012 10:51

Hi all and how are we?

To some the comments people have put on here (cant remember who said what) but first never doubt yourself (easier said then done I know). A doctor wouldnt admit you to hospital or prescribe meds unless needed. it is hard when so many people get on with pregnancy but we are all different and cope with things differently. Us HG people cope much better after birth then someone who has had an 'easy' pregnancy (or so I have been told)

Re dependency I'm 30+6 weeks and still on 50mg Cyclzine 3 times a day and still have sickness (like last night) and even with some GP's wanting me off them I wont cause I know I wont cope. And as someone said to me on facebook page I'll do more damage to myself not on tablets and being sick then tablets will do to baby. So hope that puts your mind to rest.

Been at my mums this weekend and my dear lil brother is desprate to do the malteaser thing on my belly. Thankfully baby stops kicking each time he tries lol

Hope you all have a good day. of to see MW later so will let you know how it goes

LucindaE · 19/03/2012 11:37

MOH and Horsey So agree. Dehydration is potentially damaging to you btoh, whereas any number of trails have shown that the drugs aren't. Nobody on here is being a wimp for sure, quite the opposite. No man could cope with Hyperemesis, for sure!
Lol about the mini football, Horsey! Grin
Belladons and Plastic How are the meds?
I hope Everyone is having an OK day, comparatively...[Looks about anxiously face].
Lucinda
xx

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TheDetective · 19/03/2012 13:05

Hi, I am new to this thread.

As a previous HG sufferer 10 years ago in my first pregnancy, until 22 weeks, I am now on my 5th pregnancy. This will hopefully be my second living child.

In all pregnancies I started with hyperemesis.

This pregnancy has proved no different, and I am in utter despair. Although it hasn't progressed to HG yet, it is swiftly on its way. I am 6+6 today, and have had nausea since 4 weeks. Yesterday was the first time I vomited. Yesterday I vomited 4 times, today already it is 3 times, and we are only at lunch time.

I went to the GP this morning, who typically was arrogant and useless. What point is there telling me all that crap about ginger and eating little and often. Its tripe, for me anyway. I've been there done that. Eventually came out with Stemetil. Took the first one, and 20 minutes later, vomited it back up in the middle of Sainsburys. Infact, it probably wasn't even 20 minutes. And now I have to wait 8 hours for another. Yesterdays second vomit was from a moving car. While I was driving it across a busy junction - car door open...

I am so incredibly frustrated and angry - I know what worked for me previously - every time - all that helped was IM anti emetics. Oral does NOTHING!!!

I can't believe I am going to have to go through this nightmare again, and this constant fight for treatment. I feel like screaming at the thought of it all.

Please tell me it will all be ok, and that I won't be left to suffer again.

I want this baby so much, but I just can't do this again.

Oh, and the GP refused to sign me off work. I'm a midwife (ha bloody ha) and I can't possibly work safely with such random no notice vomiting, feeling so awful. I couldn't even finish hoovering my living room this morning. How am I meant to work?

Rant over - sorry - needed to let it all out.

TheDetective · 19/03/2012 13:15

Ohmyactualgod, I am on the due in Nov 12 thread, and posted about seeing the GP this morning etc. Just went back on the thread to see some absolute arse has posted 'you're just pregnant, not dying'.

I wish there was a 'punch in the face' option on here. I really am quite angry today :( That just made me worse.

Heartbeep · 19/03/2012 14:46

thedetective sorry you're having such a hard time. This is my first pregnancy with HG (second pregnancy, have a DD) and I have such admiration for women who go on to have subsequent pregnancies despite having HG previously, I really don't think I could.

I also think that unless you've had it, you really cannot understand what a woman is going through. I was sick in my first pregnancy, but not like this, I think that goes someway to explaining other peoples flippant comments, it doesn't excuse them, at all, but I just don't think other people get it, which is why this thread and the contribution of those who've had it before is so valuable. Thank you to all who have contributed, it has helped me a lot.

I'm 11 weeks pregnant now still being sick but the meds are helping. I actually went out for lunch with DD today (brave!) she asked me after if I wanted to be sick, she's 2.5 and is my little ray of sunshine.

Your post also made me realise how difficult it is for women to get help in this situation, that I have been shocked about, as its so debilitating & can be dangerous. I've been extremely fortunate to have a very sympathetic GP & a great midwife team when I was admitted it angers me that others have had a different & more stressful experience just to get some help.

I actually do have a question, not just rambling!

I got a letter from hospital today to ask me to go back to my GP to have bloods taken again as my blood count is high. The letter says it is probably because I have HG, is there any connection? Couldn't find anything on the net. They did say at hospital my blood pressure was high which is unusual for me. I thought increased blood count was the sign of an infection? I'm in Orishas health apart from throwing up & sleeping A LOT? Any ideas? Going tomorrow to have them taken but anticipate waiting a bit for the results.

Hope everyone gets better & our pregnancies stay healthy.

meebles · 19/03/2012 18:59

thedetective - that is really poor, and I'm so sorry to hear it. Can you change GP? I saw a couple of different ones in my practice, although I was lucky that they were all sympathetic and helpful. Do you have a partner? DH came to my MW appointment and I think his worry helped to underline how unwell I was, since I was being quite practical about it (i'm a nurse, had HG before)
and whoever posted that vile comment on the due thread....I am flabbergasted at the lack of support some people show, especially when they know nothing about what they're talking about. Some people DO die of HG, and it's nothing to mess around with.

I know what you mean about being able to work safely as well, I've been feeling lazy about not working since 8 weeks, but every time I try and do something (mother's day lunch with inlaws yesterday for eg) I feel worse after (vomited x 4 today, fell asleep and was 40 mins late for nursery pickup). And that's with being on ondansetron.
I wish you luck with finding a sympathetic GP. Here might help: www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/healthcare-professionals/hg-friendly/. If you live in winch I'll tell you who my GP is!

meebles · 19/03/2012 19:07

Heartbeep I was sleeping a lot too at 11 weeks. I think it's the combination of early pregnancy + the extra stress brought on by HG.
Confused What do you mean by Orishas health?
Did they say what in your blood count was high? An FBC looks at red blood cells (Hb), white blood cells (signs of infection), and platelets (clotting ability) - so many things.

Heartbeep · 19/03/2012 20:24

meebles that should have read GOOD health I have no idea what Orishas means???!! Who knows what I typed to get that!

The letter is really general just says my 'blood count is high', doesn't say what aspect. I guess I'll just have another test and hope it turns out ok.

I've been googling which of course is never a good idea! Fingers crossed its ok.

horseynewmum · 20/03/2012 10:07

Hi dective I admire you for going through a 5th HG pregnancy. I'm only on my first and that has put me off for a bit. re meds I think you need to see another GP or if no luck go to you local antenatal clinic and see someone there.
Also re people saying your being over the top its a shame they cant have it for a week and know how it feels.

Went to MW yesterday and told her what happened re meds and she was fuming that a GP refused to prescribe it and she said that I would of done more damage to me and baby without them. She also said any more problems with meds get the GP to call hospital.
Babys head is down
My iron levels have dropped which MW said is normal as long as they dont go below 10 and I'm currently 10.8 so got to keep an eye on that

Right I have a question its not HG related but thought I'd ask you as I know you all. Did you put your towel and change of clothes for a shower in your labour bag or post birth. (dont think my labour bag is big enough using 2 small bags)

Lovely day outside hope everyone else is coping ok today

LucindaE · 20/03/2012 11:20

The Detective Welcome, to stick around here where people know what you are going through. I am good and mad at the response you got on another thread, and I am very tempted to post something outraged, but with people that ignorant there's probably no point. I'll just post something supportive of people with Hyperemesis. I agree with others how brave you are. As those meds dont' seem to be working at all, again as others suggest is it possible to go back with someone acting as a backer and ask for different meds? I wish now when I was refused meds I had done what I felt like doing, and been sick on the GP's shiny shoes. Poor you, have you got kesosticks to check that you're not getting dehydrated? Do you find ice lollies or sips of flat coke at all soothing? I know everything seems to come back up, it's more a question of how long it takes and that some gets through.
Meebles Great advice! You are sensible to take it easy rather than get really ill again. There is no way that you are lazy!
Heartbeep Sorry you are still being sick, that's foul. I don't know what a high blood count means, but even though you can't help worrying I don't suppose they'd have told you by letter if it indicated anything serious, so maybe it's just something like a possible UTI, nasty but not worrying?
Horsey I am still very indignant about that GP's attitude too! In fact, I'm good and mad today Angry.
Hugs to all who want them.
Lucinda
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Littleplasticpeople · 20/03/2012 18:11

Hello again,
Thanks for the advice on increasing the dose of ondensatron. My GP has upped it to 16mg a day. Yesterday was the first day for five weeks that I didn't throw up my dinner, so fingers crossed this might be the start of better days.

I also went to a acupuncture clinic today, worth a shot!

heartbeep you must be on the October thread, I am also 11 weeks, let's hope we get some relief soon. When is your scan? Mine is next Monday, but I already had one at 8 weeks to check for twins!

thedetective sorry you are going through this. Try to change GP if at all possible. I was going back every few days, the meds were switched each time o try and find something to ease it. I was also signed of work pretty swiftly- it is impossible to work when throwing up constantly, surely any GP can see that.

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