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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 04/10/2011 12:53

We need a new thread already.

I hope this thread will give support to those suffering from the Horrors of
Hyperemesis, and that it will help to talk to other sufferers and those who have survived it.

There is no such thing as tmi here - the nature of the illness means that you have to be graphic when discussing it - and feel free to moan all you wish. You have reason to!

I want to thank FluffyWhiteKittens MOH Grumblin LA Caramel NitNat Coconuts Luce Grandma TheOnly and current sufferers MaryLou PearlFeekerry and many others who have been invaluable on the former threads. My apologies to anyone I've rudely overlooked, I daren't keep gabbling too long, or I might put off current sufferers.

Remember, when you are at your worst, the words from the Eastern story: - 'This Too Shall Pass.' It will...

Below is some brilliant information from MOH's website www.pregnancysicknesssos.co.uk. However, if you don't feel up to reading it now, feel free to skip it for now and have a good moan.

Hyperemesis gravidarum (HG) is a severe form of pregnancy sickness which affects between 1 and 3% of pregnant women. Historically, it was mistakenly thought to be a psychosomatic illness and women were treated as though they had a psychotic disorder. This view has been comprehensively disproven by numerous research papers in recent decades, and it is now known to be an illness of organic origin, although its causes have yet to be fully understood. There is a persistent common belief that no drugs should be given to women in the first trimester of pregnancy. This is not true. There are a number of effective anti-emetic (anti sickness) drugs which can safely be taken in early pregnancy. Unfortunately, the erroneous views that HG is a psychosomatic conditions and that no drugs are safe in the first trimester still persists in many places, shockingly, even amongst GPs and midwives. Sadly, many women still come across unsympathetic health professionals who are ignorant of current treatment methods.

How do I know if I have HG?
If you are suffering from persistent nausea and/or vomiting which is preventing you from eating and/or drinking then you may be suffering from HG. With ordinary nausea and vomiting of pregnancy (NVP), the sickness does not interfere with your ability to eat and drink enough, you should not be losing weight and you should be able to continue to care for yourself and your family although you may not be feeling too great. With HG, sufferers often need help caring for themselves, never mind look after their family. The illness can be completely debilitating for weeks or even months. If you're not sure, the HER foundation website who have a fact sheet to help you determine whether or not you are suffering from HG
www.helpher.org/mothers/hyperemesis-or-morning-sickness/index.php

Diagnosis is important as you will inevitably become dehydrated and you will need to be admitted to hospital for IV rehydration. Starvation is another risk. When your body burns fat for energy, it produces chemicals called ketones which can be detected in your urine. You can monitor your levels of starvation using ketosticks, available from pharmacies. You pee on the stick and it monitors your levels of ketones. If levels are high, you should tell your doctor or midwife. If you are worried about dehydration and ketone levels and you can't see your doctor or midwife, you can go to A&E.

Facts and Figures and FAQs

HG is worse in the first trimester for the majority of sufferers, though a significant proportion (10 ? 20%) suffer for the entire duration of the pregnancy. If you have close relatives (mothers, sisters) who have had HG, you are also at significantly higher risk of being a sufferer yourself. HG is the most common cause of hospitalisation of pregnant women in the first trimester.

Is it worse carrying a boy or a girl?
There is conflicting evidence as to whether having a boy or a girl makes HG worse, some studies say boys, some say girls.

Is it worse with twins?
Yes there is evidence that carrying more than one baby makes HG worse.

Will my baby be ok?
Babies born to HG mothers are usually absolutely fine. If you lose some weight during the first trimester the risks for the baby are low as it does not need much nutrition at this time and your body should have enough stores from before your pregnancy. However, if you continue to to lose weight due to lack of treatment or failed treatment, then there is an increased risk of low birth weight or pre-term birth. Studies show that this is a risk for women who are severely ill, are dehydrated for long periods and lose more than 10% of their body weight.

There is also growing evidence of long term health effects in some children born to mothers who suffer malnutrition in pregnancy. In some cases this is not evident until adulthood with increased risk of chronic conditions such as diabetes and hypertension.
For more information see forums.helpher.org/viewtopic.php?t=18 and www.helpher.org/hyperemesis-gravidarum/complications/fetal-programming.php

I've heard that being sick is a sign of a healthy pregnancy, is this the case with HG?
You will often be told that morning sickness is a good sign and you should be happy that you're feeling sick. This is generally the case with normal NVP, however, it is not the case with untreated HG. There is actually a higher risk of pre-term birth and low birth weight. However, continuing to feel sick may be a sign that the pregnancy is still progressing. Some women with HG who miscarried reported that the first sign was that they suddenly stopped feeling sick.

What are the treatments?
Initially you will be advised to use non-pharmacoligical strategies which are similar to the general advice given to any pregnant women suffering from nausea. These include eating little and often, eating protein-rich, low-fat meals, avoiding triggers of nausea such as strong smells and getting enough rest. You can try ginger, seabands (accupressure wristbands used for travel sickness) and extra doses of vitamin B6. Avoid getting out of bed in the morning without something in your stomach such as a tea biscuit or cracker. Some women find that these give relief in the initial stages of HG but they become ineffective once the illness is in full swing.

The next line of treatment is prescribed antiemetics such as phenergan, cyclizine, stemetil and ondansetron. For many women these work well and control the nausea and vomiting enough for them to eat and drink normally and regain some of their lost weight. Many can even return to normal life. You may find that one antiemetic on its own is not effective and you may need to try different combinations but you can discuss this with your doctor. Even with antiemetics, you will probably still need to use coping strategies such as getting extra rest, eating small frequent meals and avoiding triggers when the HG is at its peak. If you are dehydrated, you may be admitted to hospital for IV fluids. Minerals and vitamins can be added to the drip to replace any you may have lost, as well as antiemetics.

Unfortunately, antiemetics don't work for everyone. If they are ineffective, you should be referred to an obstetrician (if you haven't been already) for the next line of treatment, which will probably be steroids. These carry a small risk of cleft palate, but this will be discussed with your doctor. In a small number of cases even this is not effective and drastic treatments such as feeding with a tube directly into the stomach may have to be considered.

My GP is unsympathetic and refuses to prescribe me drugs - what should I do?
Unfortunately this experience is all too common. In this case you should see another GP if possible. You should also ask for a referral to an obstetrician. If you remain untreated and become dehydrated, you can have yourself admitted to A&E for IV fluids and ask to be seen by an obstetrician.

Do alternative remedies work?

Some women are greatly helped by alternative medicine, particularly Homepathy and Acupunture. Some women can claim to have had the illness 'stopped in its tracks' by Acupunture, but success varies between individual patients and it tends to be expensive. These remedies are worth a try if you can afford it but have a back up plan incase it doesn't work.

How long will this last for?
For most women, HG peaks in the first trimester and tails off or disappears completely later in the pregnancy. The usual advice for morning sickness is that it will improve after 12 weeks. The majority of HG sufferers find that it takes longer than this. Unfortunately, some women suffer severely for the entire pregnancy. Others find that it improves, but they suffer from nausea and occasional vomiting until birth. Relapse is quite common especially if you have tried to return to your normal busy life. There is a great temptation to make up for lost time and become very active once you start to feel better, but this very often leads to the nausea returning. You should be very careful about resuming work and normal household activities even if you feel as though you're up to it. Be careful too about stopping your medication, do it very gradually and resume at the first sign of the condition returning. You may have to continue to take it for the entire pregnancy to prevent a relapse.
All I can drink is coke, I'm worried that I'm not eating a healthy diet.

Through pregnancy, we are bombarded with advice about what to eat and what not to eat. Women with HG often find that the list of food and drinks that they can keep down is very small and not at all from the healthy options. For some reason, women with Hyperemesis ofen find sweet and salty foods ie, sweet drinks like coke, and crisps, are more likely to stay down than healthy foods. Their peculiar diet can lead to disapproving comments and the incorrect assumption that this is how they normally eat.
Various women find different drinks acceptable. Coke (often left to go flat) Lucozade, lemonade, milkshakes and IronBru, Dr Pepper, orange squash, apple juice, lime juice, ice cubes made of flat coke or just tapwater, ice lollies and sips of tepid water can help in keeping rehydrated. 

When the illness is at its worst during the early hormonal surges - typically between eight and ten weeks- then it is difficult to retain any liquids and you may need to be hospitalised for rehydration at about this time. 

When solids do become bearable,jelly, tinned fruit, ice lollies, ice cream, crisps, fish fingers, potato cakes, crumpets, soda bread and similar potato based or salty foods have often been found to be acceptable.

The important thing to remember at this time is that it doesn't matter what you eat or drink, the crucial thing is that you eat or drink something. Don't forego something because you are worried that it's bad for you. In a normal diet, too much salt and sugar is bad for you, but when you consume nothing else, this may be your only source of calories, fluid and salt for the day. Instead of berating yourself for your unhealthy diet, congratulate yourself that you have kept something down because your body needs it. If you are able to take vitamin tablets or syrups, then do so but most women find that large multivitamin tablets make the nausea worse. You may be able to get vitamins that dissolve under your tongue which you may be able to tolerate. If and when you begin to feel better, you can start to re-introduce more healthy food.

Will it go away when I give birth?
The good news is that for the vast majority of sufferers the physical symptoms of HG disappear completely as soon as the baby is born. You should be aware though that it is not unknown for the nausea to persist after birth especially if you have been severely ill. If this occurs, speak to your doctor. For women who suffered persistent, long term nausea and vomiting, it may take some time to restore energy levels and nutritional reserves. Moreover, while the physical symptoms may leave, the trauma of HG can leave an emotional legacy for many women, especially when combined with the rigours of caring for a baby. If you have any concerns, speak to your doctor or midwife. Don't feel that you should just be able to pick yourself up and get on with things, if you're having problems you are entitled to seek support.

Will I get it in my next pregnancy and will it be the same?
Unfortunately, having HG in one pregnancy puts you at a high risk of suffering in subsequent pregnancies although it is possible to escape it. Some women find that the HG gets better in subsequent pregnancies, whereas others find it stays the same or gets worse. There is really no way of knowing how your pregnancies will relate to each other.

Can I do anything to prepare for HG incase I get it again in my next pregnancy?
The HER website has a page of advice on preparing for your next pregnancy. forums.helpher.org/viewtopic.php?t=17. If you had medication which worked for you in your previous pregnancy, make sure that you have it ready to take as soon as you feel ill. Studies show that the quicker you get on top of the sickness, the better the medication works. Because HG can start within days of missing your period, see your GP as soon as you know you're pregnant.

Useful sources of information
The Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists in the UK have no guidelines on the treatment and management of HG. However, the American College of Obs/Gynae (ACOG) and the Society of Obs/Gynae of Canada (SOGC) have published guidelines which can be found at the following sites

www.sogc.org/guidelines/public/120E-CPG-October2002.pdf 

www.guideline.gov/content.aspx?id=10939

Pregnancy Sickness Support is a UK based organisation run by GPs and midwives with direct experience of HG. They have a helpline which you can call for advice ? if nobody answers you leave a message and a midwife will call you back. They will be able to answer your questions about treatments and they keep a note of doctors around the country who are known to be sympathetic to HG sufferers and are willing to treat it with medication. Their website is at www.pregnancy sicknesssupport.org.uk

The Hyperemesis Education and Research Foundation (HER) is a US based foundation which was formed by HG survivors and has a mission to research the causes of HG and provide information and support for other sufferers. They have links to the latest scientific research and are actively involved in funding research, although you usually have to live in the USA to take part. There are loads of threads on every topic related to HG from women who have been through it, including very useful information about which treatment regimes worked. Their website is at www.hyperemesis.org.
Dealing with well meaning but unhelpful advice

Women with HG are often told by friends and family that it's just morning sickness, a normal part of pregnancy and you just have to put up with it. Many HG sufferers report extreme frustration at being advised to try ginger, dry crackers or eat little and often. Most of them have tried every remedy they can think of to no avail. Because most women are familiar with NVP, there is often an attitude of, well I had morning sickness and I just got on with it. HG sufferers are often left with the feeling that they are whingers and malingerers and that if only they could adopt a positive attitude then they would be fine. This can lead to further depression in what is already a depressive condition. In order to deal with this, it is important that the HG sufferer has some supportive friends or family who can firmly but politely fend off these comments. The sufferer will often have no energy to deal with it herself. If possible explain to the person giving the advice that you are not suffering from morning sickness, you are suffering from a condition called hyperemesis gravidarum.

I have never known anyone with HG. Where can I talk to women who understand how I feel?
There is a support thread on the talk boards here (ask MT to add link) which is run by sufferers and ex-sufferers. There are discussions of practical issues such as tips for coping and medication but the real value of this forum is that you get sympathy and understanding from people who know exactly what you're going through. If you just want to moan or let off steam, you are free to do so and nobody will hold it against you. Comments are also welcome from relatives, partners, friends and carers of HG sufferers. The HER website also has talk boards at forums.helpher.org/. There is also a UK based yahoo group called Bloomingawful at health.groups.yahoo.com/group/bloomingawful/

Finally from me, here's a list of due dates. Do add yourself when you feel up to it.

ElliottsMummy: EDD 25/9/11
Mancbird: EDD 08/10/11
AgBag: EDD 18/10/11
HeftyMutha: EDD 28/10/11
Littlewizz: EDD 6/11/11
CakeForBreakfast: EDD 07/11/11
Marylou: EDD 9/11/11
MotherofPearl: EDD 17/11/11
Eggy: EDD 30/11/11
LadyOTCM: 01/12/11
Diddygirl: EDD 19/12/11
Bensgirl: EDD
Alias: EDD ??/12?11
m1nn1e: EDD ??/01/12
Angel: 16/01/12
Seapie: 30/01/12
Louby86: EDD 17/02/12
MummyMccar: 23/02/12
Feekerry 19/03/2012
Magnum White 26/03/2012
Helibee 25/04/2012
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LucindaE · 10/03/2012 11:35

Horsey poor you, how awful those sessions are, and to have them later on is too bad. Thanks for updating list!
Cosmo Thank goodness for slightly better day, anyway!
SMK How are things generally?
TheOnly You are so right.
Waves anxiously to all...
Lucinda
xx

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LucindaE · 10/03/2012 12:48

TheOnly Forgot to add - sadly, Edinburgh was a rushed trip - family business, no time to see the lovely sights. Oh well, some other time.
Cyber hugs to all.
Lucinda
xx

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meebles · 10/03/2012 14:42

I haven't even thought about any classes. I really like the idea of aquanatal exercise before I was pregnant the first time, but since it's 50:50 that showering makes me vomit, I'm not sure it's a good idea!

Was having a better time of it recently, but buying and assembling a wardrobe last week, and two nursery runs on the bus (so DH could have the car) yesterday have done me in. I should be asleep....

Feekerry 19/03/2012
Magnum White 26/03/2012
Helibee 25/04/2012
Horseynewmum 23/05/2012
Cosmogirl 08/08/2012
meebles 28/7/12

Cosmogirl · 10/03/2012 15:54

And yet another rough day :( Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. I am so fed up of this! One fairly ok day, one massively shit one. There is absolutely no consistency to this and I am officially sick of it. I have been doing housework today, which may not have been the smartest move, but it really needed doing and sadly my DH is not likely to notice and do it, so it falls to me....

I am officially abandoning 'positive mental attitude/acceptance project'. There is no way I can be happy or positive when I have HG, it is just awful and miserable and.....I'm ranting I know. Sorry. I just don't have anyone else to tell this stuff to.

I look at my countdown and see 4 months 28 days and I'm not even sure how I'm going to get to the end of the day most days.

I'm to angry to cry. I'm not sure what else to do. I'm fed up of never hearing from people, having to put all the effort in even though I'm the one who's ill. I need people and contact to feel sane and happy, but at the same time no one understands what I'm going through and so to be around others is mostly just frustrating.

I'm in a bad place today I guess. Can't even blame meds for my mood swings as I'm not on them anymore. I'm not sure what the hell is up but I am up and down like a bloody balloon and I'm seriously sick of it now. Sorry for going on :((

Magnumwhite · 10/03/2012 16:49

Cosmo :( Horsey :( can i join the club?
had about 4 days of having more energy, better sleep and then on thurs... ds got a V and D bug..and i came down with it about 6hrs later.
He's now back to his lively self and i've had 3 days of vomiting, abdo cramps and feeling really crap. PILs came to take him out this afternoon and said 'oh you don't look too bad'!!!!!!!!! i want to cry. Have DS godfather here from the US for a few days and really want to enjoy these last 2 wks before the baby comes and I feel my body is just failing me again :(

Magnumwhite · 10/03/2012 16:51

Cosmo I'd love to take care of you once I'm in the pink castle. of you all. its so rubbish having people think because you've had the occasional ok day that everything is fine now

horseynewmum · 10/03/2012 17:37

cosmo and Magnum your welcome to join me in my padded cell.

Magnum your so close now. Just count down the days. I am too even tho i'm 29+5 it does help

cosmo everything you said is how I felt and even now I'm this far I still have days when I'm feeling pretty shit thinking why I have I done this to myself, why torture myself over something so simple and natural but now i'm nearing the end its like the light at the end of the tunnel that went out in first tiremester is flicking more brightly on some days so I know it will be worth it.

I've managed to drag myself out of bed to sofa to watch rugby but been told off by dog (very poilte grunt) when I woke him up spewing into the bucket. DH has suddenly managed to vanish to so going to have to master the energy to feed dog in bit but till then I'll let the sleeping dog lie

Cosmogirl · 11/03/2012 10:05

Morning all, it was nice to read your comments last night, Horsey and Magnum. Made me feel a little less like I'm alone and slightly crazy. I think because so few people in RL understand HG, it is easy to feel you are making things sound worse than they are.

Horsey - that's great that being further on you are starting to get some hope back. I was thinking yesterday that I hope in a few weeks I will feel better and like there is an end to this. 18/19 weeks feels like a no mans land. You get movements but only slight and occasional, bump not huge, still don't know if baby is healthy and the sex to help with bonding.

Sorry you're still throwing up. That must be miserable.

Magnum - so sorry you've had a rough time again. So cruel how much crap gets thrown at HG mamas - as if we haven't got enough to deal with. I hate it when people do the whole 'you're looking well' comment. You feel like screaming 'but I don't feel it!!!' Hope you are feeling a bit better now and 2 weeks to go. Could be any day now then. That must feel very amazing. xx

horseynewmum · 11/03/2012 17:52

Hi thought I posted earlier but it appears to gone missing in cyber space

cosmo your not mad tho in life it does help (not with HG tho) and I've been mad for 26yrs now LOL :o

re the RL I have people going to me that 'morning sickness stops at 12 weeks so must be something else making you sick' or 'have you tried ginger?' or 'your complaining now wait till baby arrives then you wish you were pregnant again.'
My answers to these questions is 'morning sickness is the wrong name for it. I call it baby doesn't like, anytime of day sickness.' 'Yes I've tried ginger and everyother wonderful remendy and guess what?????? STILL BEING SICK.' 'Trust me normal diet and general normal well being will make sleepless nights more worth while.'

DH isnt in my good books atm. During week I have to make my own meals and feed dog as he at work in evenings and I do tidy up after myself most the time if feeling well. Well I wasnt feeling great yesterday and as it being a weekend I just wanted a bit of help like he feed dog and help me do something to eat for myself is that too much to ask? But no I did it myself expect tidying up (1plate and 1 pan) as felt really shit and he came in from pub moaning how he always tidying up after me and he had enough. AIBU?

sorry about the rant. HG is a pain to life

LucindaE · 12/03/2012 09:24

Magnum Horsey Cosmo and Meebles Oh, dear, it does sound as if you are are having a horrible time. It is too bad that the Hyperemesis is hanging on, like a very unwelcome guest. I do get so Angry at the silly suggestions people make. My favourite was, 'Are you sure that it isn't your diet that's causing it?' My diet then being crisps and coke, that person thought that was what I generally lived on Shock. Of course, you are not mad, and I am so sorry that people aren't putting themselves out for you more, especially OH's. it is a lonely business. I can only assume that they have no idea what it feels like to be this ill. No point in pointing them to infornation, I suppose...
Hugs to you all. I wish I could do more to comfort you.
Lucinda

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MotherofPearl · 12/03/2012 19:37

Hi all and sorry to hear so many of you struggling so badly with the HG Horror. It really makes me quite sad reading everyone's posts - takes me back to my PG and that feeling of hopelessness that many of you describe above. It was about this time last year that I found out I was pregnant and little did I know that about 2 weeks afterwards I'd be in hospital on a drip and meds! I know it's annoying to keep being reminded when you're feeling like it will never end, but do hang onto the fact that it WILL end, and at the end you will have a beautiful baby to show for it. And as Horsey quite rightly says, looking after a baby is a total breeze compared to HG! After the birth and pretty much ever since, I have been in a state of elation not to feel sick or throw up, and to eat normally. You will all get there in the end, and enjoy the many delights of the Pink Castle!

Thanks for asking theonly, little Abel is doing brilliantly. Can't believe he's 15 weeks already and a big strapping boy! How is Harper getting on and when are you back at work (agh, shouldn't mention work on here!)?

Waves to Lucinda and hopes everyone doing as well as can be expected under the circs. :)

LucindaE · 13/03/2012 10:01

MOP The view is lovely from the Pink Castle! For those undergoing it at the moment, it seems like being frozen in time, but 'This Too Shall Pass' like everything. Easy for me to say...But I have never known anyone come back on this thread and say it wasn't worth it!
I hope Cosmo Horsey Meebles and Magnum are feeling a little better today?
Lucinda
xx

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horseynewmum · 13/03/2012 10:20

Morning all

Oh god think I'm all cried out after yesterday. It all start over a film (yes a film) me and DH were watching a film and on one the scenes the girl announced she pregnant and her bf was over the moon gave her a big cuddle and a kiss. That set me off ccause it reminded me that DH hasn't really shown any excitment to this baby and as I have mentioned previously here.
So yesterday I just spent most the day in the daze listening to muxic (not a good sign when I listen to alot of music while doing nothing). My problem is I do bottle up things rather then talking and thats when things go wrong (10 yr old scares are prove of that). This is what I like about this site I can pour my heart out and noone will judge or they give good advice which is lovely.

So to top my day off yesterday I went to order more meds from GP but usually GP on hol and on-call one is refusing to prescribe them as he dont agree with meds while pregnant and I should be able to manage without them now. Thing is I still being sick on them and spend most evenings on sofa/in bed feeling sick so I'm scared to come of them incase I end up like the first trimester. Got an appointment this pm with another GP who I've seen in first trimester (who admitted me to hospital 2nd time) to see if he will get me some if not wait till my GP comes back of hol.

Enough of my moaning feeling more positive today and will do more to keep mind busy

LucindaE · 13/03/2012 10:56

Horsey I am so [angyr] about that GP, sitting in moral judgement like that when he knew you'd been admitted to hospital, I think things are getting better, with the medical profession beginning to understand how serious Hyperemesis is, and then I hear stories like that. I'm glad you took the initiative to see another, my goodness.
I think a baby is unreal to many men until s/he arrives, and then they are astounded and have a change of heart. Some are delighted at the prospect of a baby but I think with many of them, though it's made to seem so romantic in films, it's a macho ego thing 'Ooh, look, I'm fertile', so don't be too disappointed.
After such a day and such a setback from GP, I am so glad you are able to feel a little more positive, I don't think I could!
Lucinda
xx

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Magnumwhite · 13/03/2012 14:13

Hi all and thanks for all your well wishes. Horsey & Cosmo wish I could fast track you guys through this process!
Had much better day yesterday and for the first time in this pregnancy have eaten a Magnum White!
Bad diarrhoea again today so I'm either taking ages to get over this bug or about to go into labour.......
Lucinda thanks so much for looking after us all x

meebles · 13/03/2012 14:32

Horsey I really hope the second GP is a little more educated than the first! I know it's their responsibility to prescribe safely, but there is the evidence for the medication's efficacy, it's recommended in guidelines, and when you get incredibly poorly again, the hospital is only going to use the same meds he has refused to prescribe in the first place! Grrr.....

MOP, thanks for the needed reminder. 20 weeks and still feel incredibly nauseous all the time. I'm so fed up of waking up and immediately feeling sick. My positive thought for today is that at least my actual vomit count is down to x per week, rather than x per day!

Had scan today, and it was reassuring to see the blob growing all the right bits and pieces. Small problem - sonographer thinks it's a boy, and DH wants to call it Eric after his grandfather. I know retro is in, but that's just cruel!

Cosmogirl · 13/03/2012 16:11

Hi all,

Having a slightly better day here. Afternoons are usually the worst and today it is not as bad. That's to say I'm in the living on sofa rather than up in bed trying to entertain 3 year old until Dad gets home at 5 pm and I can run away! It is funny how a better day with HG, for a normal person, would probably mean them curled up in a ball in bed, but us HGers become so tough and used to feeling sick we try and push through until it gets the better of us. We really are such strong women and I mean that.

Meebles - our due dates are very close! I'm not so secretly hoping I go into labour before EDD, 37/38 weeks would be great - so late July :) Glad all good at scan. We have ours a week tomorrow, hoping to learn the sex too. I actually quite like the name Eric! Isn't there an actor called Eric? Eric Banna I think....

I feel for you as still so nauseous at 19 weeks but I'm not vomming, so that's something I guess.

MagnumWhite - I really hope it is labour starting for you! How exciting! I am so happy for you but jealous at the same time as I wish I was further on. I had a Magnum the other day but was a bit disappointed - it was a dark choc caramel one, so I was expecting actual caramel, but it was caramel flavoured ice cream. DH got the double caramel one with actual caramel. Grrr. Have found that I can actually eat most things this time. The problems just start the minute I stop eating and the nausea returns...

Second your thanks to Lucinda xx Keep us posted Magnum.

MOP - thanks for the reminder about it being worth it. It really helps to hear this -particularly from a HG mother who understand what we are all going through.

Horsey - sorry you had a rough time with the doctors and feeling emotional. It is such a rollercoaster ride isn't it? Pregnancy is bad enough for ups and downs, throw in HG, and it is a wonder any relationships survive 9 months of HG. We definitely have our moments of coping and not coping, and it is made much worse having another child. Just adds to the stress levels hugely.

DD has potty learnt in the last few weeks, which I am very happy about. We didn't 'train', she's just got used to the idea gradually, but is now out of nappies and going for wees and poos on the big toilet. Sounds dead lazy, but often she wants me to come too, so I am on and off the sofa a lot, which when I am having a bad day, is hard.... And often she takes her time and seems to think every wee must have a poo with it! I am grateful not to be changing pooey nappies though as that's no fun with HG either.

Oh and to top it off our fridge broke the other day, so kitchen is very smelly, just as my sense of smell seems to have peaked. Yuck. Hoping DH can sort it asap, as we've transferred stuff to an outside garage fridge, so everytime we need anything, we are in and out of the back door. Not ideal...

horseynewmum · 13/03/2012 18:04

YEPIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! doctor given me enough cyclezine till end of pregnancy. Got bit excited then opps!!!!!

meebles my worst time of day is morning and evenings even at 30weeks so you have my sympthny (sp?)

Cosmo I ditto hoping to be early too so I can be HG free and ready to face the family wedding 10 days after due date

magnum fingers crossed you have reached the end and your little one is ready to meet the world

LucindaE · 14/03/2012 09:33

Meebles and Cosmo Always a pleasure to cheer on you brave women, particularly the ones who have the courage to go for it a second or third time!
I' m an Eric fan too, it's a Viking name, and I do like those...
Congratulations on LO out of nappies, nappies and Hyperemesis, my goodness...
Shock and fridges? Aagh!
Horsey Wonderful news about cyclazine and finding a sensible GP. That 'should be able to manage without' stuff makes my blood boil Angry.
For those still suffering round nineteen weeks, let's hope your going to be one of the ones it eases for round the twenty week mark. [hopeful face].
Lucinda
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theonlyhb2 · 14/03/2012 10:06

just a quick one as on my fone. Magnum, 2 weeks before my due date i was really ill, chest infection, couldn't sleep, generally rough and puking then a week later Harper popped out and i was completely fine, no cough at all whereas it was proper hacking before. Only a few weeks to go rather than months til you get some cake and sleep! x x

LucindaE · 14/03/2012 10:52

I meant to say,Magnum Ooh I hope it is the beginning of labour! Thanks fo r thanks!
TheOnly Cyber hugs.
Lucinda
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Magnumwhite · 14/03/2012 18:16

well I'm still here so looks like that was a false alarm. But I do feel the end is nigh and I will hopefully let you know when things do get started!
Have definitely avoided potty training while pregnant so very impressed Cosmo

Littleplasticpeople · 14/03/2012 19:56

Hello again, thanks to those who welcomed me, I kept meaning to post but , well you know how it is.

lucinda yes the zofran is ondensatron, I am on 2 x 4mg a day, I am still vomming 10+ times a day. The odd thing is that I'm not ketonic or dehydrated, I think my method of eating regardless of throwing up must mean that enough gets through.

I'm really really low though, at 10 weeks it just seems endless, I am in depths of despair at times Sad I cling to the fact that with my other HG pregnancy it did get much better at about 17 weeks.

Cosmogirl · 15/03/2012 10:00

Morning,

Hi Littleplasticpeople - sorry you are suffering so badly. 10 + times a day must be awful. 10 weeks is a very hard stage, but you are doing so well to have come this far. HG is such an awful thing to deal with.

I find I am constantly clinging to certain things throughout pregnancy to keep me pushing through the weeks. Current one is that nausea will ease at 22 weeks. We shall see... How old is your other child? I have a DD who is about to turn 3 and HG + other children is certainly a very tough addition to an already crap situation, so if you need someone to vent to, I'm here for you.

Magnum - Aww sorry it was a false alarm. But it could still be your body clearing out and preparing for labour. Fingers toes and everything else crossed you haven't much longer to wait. It is so nice to hear birth announcements as it reminds you it does all end and that your own due date is inching ever closer!

Horsey - yey for cyclizine! Re: due dates, last time I got proper hung up on being early and every day after 37 weeks I was thinking - will it be today? As it happened 40+1 I lost my mucus plug in the morning, waters went at night and by 40+2 before 9 am she was born. I am glad I didn't go massively over due date as that really would have been miserable.

I'm going to try and make a concerted effort to drink more today as I had an awful afternoon yesterday and I think it can't be helped by the amount of fluid I'm getting in. Bought some Summer fruit squash so going to see how I get on....

MOH100 · 15/03/2012 10:14

littleplastic Why have they got you on such a low dose of ondansetron? You can take 16mg per day and you clearly need more as vomiting 10 times per day is not acceptable, despite not being ketonic and dehyrdated. Can you ask your doctor for a higher dose?