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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 04/10/2011 12:53

We need a new thread already.

I hope this thread will give support to those suffering from the Horrors of
Hyperemesis, and that it will help to talk to other sufferers and those who have survived it.

There is no such thing as tmi here - the nature of the illness means that you have to be graphic when discussing it - and feel free to moan all you wish. You have reason to!

I want to thank FluffyWhiteKittens MOH Grumblin LA Caramel NitNat Coconuts Luce Grandma TheOnly and current sufferers MaryLou PearlFeekerry and many others who have been invaluable on the former threads. My apologies to anyone I've rudely overlooked, I daren't keep gabbling too long, or I might put off current sufferers.

Remember, when you are at your worst, the words from the Eastern story: - 'This Too Shall Pass.' It will...

Below is some brilliant information from MOH's website www.pregnancysicknesssos.co.uk. However, if you don't feel up to reading it now, feel free to skip it for now and have a good moan.

Hyperemesis gravidarum (HG) is a severe form of pregnancy sickness which affects between 1 and 3% of pregnant women. Historically, it was mistakenly thought to be a psychosomatic illness and women were treated as though they had a psychotic disorder. This view has been comprehensively disproven by numerous research papers in recent decades, and it is now known to be an illness of organic origin, although its causes have yet to be fully understood. There is a persistent common belief that no drugs should be given to women in the first trimester of pregnancy. This is not true. There are a number of effective anti-emetic (anti sickness) drugs which can safely be taken in early pregnancy. Unfortunately, the erroneous views that HG is a psychosomatic conditions and that no drugs are safe in the first trimester still persists in many places, shockingly, even amongst GPs and midwives. Sadly, many women still come across unsympathetic health professionals who are ignorant of current treatment methods.

How do I know if I have HG?
If you are suffering from persistent nausea and/or vomiting which is preventing you from eating and/or drinking then you may be suffering from HG. With ordinary nausea and vomiting of pregnancy (NVP), the sickness does not interfere with your ability to eat and drink enough, you should not be losing weight and you should be able to continue to care for yourself and your family although you may not be feeling too great. With HG, sufferers often need help caring for themselves, never mind look after their family. The illness can be completely debilitating for weeks or even months. If you're not sure, the HER foundation website who have a fact sheet to help you determine whether or not you are suffering from HG
www.helpher.org/mothers/hyperemesis-or-morning-sickness/index.php

Diagnosis is important as you will inevitably become dehydrated and you will need to be admitted to hospital for IV rehydration. Starvation is another risk. When your body burns fat for energy, it produces chemicals called ketones which can be detected in your urine. You can monitor your levels of starvation using ketosticks, available from pharmacies. You pee on the stick and it monitors your levels of ketones. If levels are high, you should tell your doctor or midwife. If you are worried about dehydration and ketone levels and you can't see your doctor or midwife, you can go to A&E.

Facts and Figures and FAQs

HG is worse in the first trimester for the majority of sufferers, though a significant proportion (10 ? 20%) suffer for the entire duration of the pregnancy. If you have close relatives (mothers, sisters) who have had HG, you are also at significantly higher risk of being a sufferer yourself. HG is the most common cause of hospitalisation of pregnant women in the first trimester.

Is it worse carrying a boy or a girl?
There is conflicting evidence as to whether having a boy or a girl makes HG worse, some studies say boys, some say girls.

Is it worse with twins?
Yes there is evidence that carrying more than one baby makes HG worse.

Will my baby be ok?
Babies born to HG mothers are usually absolutely fine. If you lose some weight during the first trimester the risks for the baby are low as it does not need much nutrition at this time and your body should have enough stores from before your pregnancy. However, if you continue to to lose weight due to lack of treatment or failed treatment, then there is an increased risk of low birth weight or pre-term birth. Studies show that this is a risk for women who are severely ill, are dehydrated for long periods and lose more than 10% of their body weight.

There is also growing evidence of long term health effects in some children born to mothers who suffer malnutrition in pregnancy. In some cases this is not evident until adulthood with increased risk of chronic conditions such as diabetes and hypertension.
For more information see forums.helpher.org/viewtopic.php?t=18 and www.helpher.org/hyperemesis-gravidarum/complications/fetal-programming.php

I've heard that being sick is a sign of a healthy pregnancy, is this the case with HG?
You will often be told that morning sickness is a good sign and you should be happy that you're feeling sick. This is generally the case with normal NVP, however, it is not the case with untreated HG. There is actually a higher risk of pre-term birth and low birth weight. However, continuing to feel sick may be a sign that the pregnancy is still progressing. Some women with HG who miscarried reported that the first sign was that they suddenly stopped feeling sick.

What are the treatments?
Initially you will be advised to use non-pharmacoligical strategies which are similar to the general advice given to any pregnant women suffering from nausea. These include eating little and often, eating protein-rich, low-fat meals, avoiding triggers of nausea such as strong smells and getting enough rest. You can try ginger, seabands (accupressure wristbands used for travel sickness) and extra doses of vitamin B6. Avoid getting out of bed in the morning without something in your stomach such as a tea biscuit or cracker. Some women find that these give relief in the initial stages of HG but they become ineffective once the illness is in full swing.

The next line of treatment is prescribed antiemetics such as phenergan, cyclizine, stemetil and ondansetron. For many women these work well and control the nausea and vomiting enough for them to eat and drink normally and regain some of their lost weight. Many can even return to normal life. You may find that one antiemetic on its own is not effective and you may need to try different combinations but you can discuss this with your doctor. Even with antiemetics, you will probably still need to use coping strategies such as getting extra rest, eating small frequent meals and avoiding triggers when the HG is at its peak. If you are dehydrated, you may be admitted to hospital for IV fluids. Minerals and vitamins can be added to the drip to replace any you may have lost, as well as antiemetics.

Unfortunately, antiemetics don't work for everyone. If they are ineffective, you should be referred to an obstetrician (if you haven't been already) for the next line of treatment, which will probably be steroids. These carry a small risk of cleft palate, but this will be discussed with your doctor. In a small number of cases even this is not effective and drastic treatments such as feeding with a tube directly into the stomach may have to be considered.

My GP is unsympathetic and refuses to prescribe me drugs - what should I do?
Unfortunately this experience is all too common. In this case you should see another GP if possible. You should also ask for a referral to an obstetrician. If you remain untreated and become dehydrated, you can have yourself admitted to A&E for IV fluids and ask to be seen by an obstetrician.

Do alternative remedies work?

Some women are greatly helped by alternative medicine, particularly Homepathy and Acupunture. Some women can claim to have had the illness 'stopped in its tracks' by Acupunture, but success varies between individual patients and it tends to be expensive. These remedies are worth a try if you can afford it but have a back up plan incase it doesn't work.

How long will this last for?
For most women, HG peaks in the first trimester and tails off or disappears completely later in the pregnancy. The usual advice for morning sickness is that it will improve after 12 weeks. The majority of HG sufferers find that it takes longer than this. Unfortunately, some women suffer severely for the entire pregnancy. Others find that it improves, but they suffer from nausea and occasional vomiting until birth. Relapse is quite common especially if you have tried to return to your normal busy life. There is a great temptation to make up for lost time and become very active once you start to feel better, but this very often leads to the nausea returning. You should be very careful about resuming work and normal household activities even if you feel as though you're up to it. Be careful too about stopping your medication, do it very gradually and resume at the first sign of the condition returning. You may have to continue to take it for the entire pregnancy to prevent a relapse.
All I can drink is coke, I'm worried that I'm not eating a healthy diet.

Through pregnancy, we are bombarded with advice about what to eat and what not to eat. Women with HG often find that the list of food and drinks that they can keep down is very small and not at all from the healthy options. For some reason, women with Hyperemesis ofen find sweet and salty foods ie, sweet drinks like coke, and crisps, are more likely to stay down than healthy foods. Their peculiar diet can lead to disapproving comments and the incorrect assumption that this is how they normally eat.
Various women find different drinks acceptable. Coke (often left to go flat) Lucozade, lemonade, milkshakes and IronBru, Dr Pepper, orange squash, apple juice, lime juice, ice cubes made of flat coke or just tapwater, ice lollies and sips of tepid water can help in keeping rehydrated. 

When the illness is at its worst during the early hormonal surges - typically between eight and ten weeks- then it is difficult to retain any liquids and you may need to be hospitalised for rehydration at about this time. 

When solids do become bearable,jelly, tinned fruit, ice lollies, ice cream, crisps, fish fingers, potato cakes, crumpets, soda bread and similar potato based or salty foods have often been found to be acceptable.

The important thing to remember at this time is that it doesn't matter what you eat or drink, the crucial thing is that you eat or drink something. Don't forego something because you are worried that it's bad for you. In a normal diet, too much salt and sugar is bad for you, but when you consume nothing else, this may be your only source of calories, fluid and salt for the day. Instead of berating yourself for your unhealthy diet, congratulate yourself that you have kept something down because your body needs it. If you are able to take vitamin tablets or syrups, then do so but most women find that large multivitamin tablets make the nausea worse. You may be able to get vitamins that dissolve under your tongue which you may be able to tolerate. If and when you begin to feel better, you can start to re-introduce more healthy food.

Will it go away when I give birth?
The good news is that for the vast majority of sufferers the physical symptoms of HG disappear completely as soon as the baby is born. You should be aware though that it is not unknown for the nausea to persist after birth especially if you have been severely ill. If this occurs, speak to your doctor. For women who suffered persistent, long term nausea and vomiting, it may take some time to restore energy levels and nutritional reserves. Moreover, while the physical symptoms may leave, the trauma of HG can leave an emotional legacy for many women, especially when combined with the rigours of caring for a baby. If you have any concerns, speak to your doctor or midwife. Don't feel that you should just be able to pick yourself up and get on with things, if you're having problems you are entitled to seek support.

Will I get it in my next pregnancy and will it be the same?
Unfortunately, having HG in one pregnancy puts you at a high risk of suffering in subsequent pregnancies although it is possible to escape it. Some women find that the HG gets better in subsequent pregnancies, whereas others find it stays the same or gets worse. There is really no way of knowing how your pregnancies will relate to each other.

Can I do anything to prepare for HG incase I get it again in my next pregnancy?
The HER website has a page of advice on preparing for your next pregnancy. forums.helpher.org/viewtopic.php?t=17. If you had medication which worked for you in your previous pregnancy, make sure that you have it ready to take as soon as you feel ill. Studies show that the quicker you get on top of the sickness, the better the medication works. Because HG can start within days of missing your period, see your GP as soon as you know you're pregnant.

Useful sources of information
The Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists in the UK have no guidelines on the treatment and management of HG. However, the American College of Obs/Gynae (ACOG) and the Society of Obs/Gynae of Canada (SOGC) have published guidelines which can be found at the following sites

www.sogc.org/guidelines/public/120E-CPG-October2002.pdf 

www.guideline.gov/content.aspx?id=10939

Pregnancy Sickness Support is a UK based organisation run by GPs and midwives with direct experience of HG. They have a helpline which you can call for advice ? if nobody answers you leave a message and a midwife will call you back. They will be able to answer your questions about treatments and they keep a note of doctors around the country who are known to be sympathetic to HG sufferers and are willing to treat it with medication. Their website is at www.pregnancy sicknesssupport.org.uk

The Hyperemesis Education and Research Foundation (HER) is a US based foundation which was formed by HG survivors and has a mission to research the causes of HG and provide information and support for other sufferers. They have links to the latest scientific research and are actively involved in funding research, although you usually have to live in the USA to take part. There are loads of threads on every topic related to HG from women who have been through it, including very useful information about which treatment regimes worked. Their website is at www.hyperemesis.org.
Dealing with well meaning but unhelpful advice

Women with HG are often told by friends and family that it's just morning sickness, a normal part of pregnancy and you just have to put up with it. Many HG sufferers report extreme frustration at being advised to try ginger, dry crackers or eat little and often. Most of them have tried every remedy they can think of to no avail. Because most women are familiar with NVP, there is often an attitude of, well I had morning sickness and I just got on with it. HG sufferers are often left with the feeling that they are whingers and malingerers and that if only they could adopt a positive attitude then they would be fine. This can lead to further depression in what is already a depressive condition. In order to deal with this, it is important that the HG sufferer has some supportive friends or family who can firmly but politely fend off these comments. The sufferer will often have no energy to deal with it herself. If possible explain to the person giving the advice that you are not suffering from morning sickness, you are suffering from a condition called hyperemesis gravidarum.

I have never known anyone with HG. Where can I talk to women who understand how I feel?
There is a support thread on the talk boards here (ask MT to add link) which is run by sufferers and ex-sufferers. There are discussions of practical issues such as tips for coping and medication but the real value of this forum is that you get sympathy and understanding from people who know exactly what you're going through. If you just want to moan or let off steam, you are free to do so and nobody will hold it against you. Comments are also welcome from relatives, partners, friends and carers of HG sufferers. The HER website also has talk boards at forums.helpher.org/. There is also a UK based yahoo group called Bloomingawful at health.groups.yahoo.com/group/bloomingawful/

Finally from me, here's a list of due dates. Do add yourself when you feel up to it.

ElliottsMummy: EDD 25/9/11
Mancbird: EDD 08/10/11
AgBag: EDD 18/10/11
HeftyMutha: EDD 28/10/11
Littlewizz: EDD 6/11/11
CakeForBreakfast: EDD 07/11/11
Marylou: EDD 9/11/11
MotherofPearl: EDD 17/11/11
Eggy: EDD 30/11/11
LadyOTCM: 01/12/11
Diddygirl: EDD 19/12/11
Bensgirl: EDD
Alias: EDD ??/12?11
m1nn1e: EDD ??/01/12
Angel: 16/01/12
Seapie: 30/01/12
Louby86: EDD 17/02/12
MummyMccar: 23/02/12
Feekerry 19/03/2012
Magnum White 26/03/2012
Helibee 25/04/2012
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MOH100 · 02/03/2012 19:21

heartbeep I'm with Lucinda feeling quite angry about pharmacist saying those things to you. He has behaved quite unprofessionally in my opinion. It's one thing to warn someone about over the counter drugs, but you have a prescription and he is not qualified to second-guess a GP, If I was a GP i'd be really peed off if a pharmacist was trying to overrule my clinical judgement. If your pharmaist has an issue giving these drugs, the correct course of action for him is to call your GP and discuss it with him/her, not to cause unecessary worry to the patient. His actions could lead to a situation in which you are so concerned you don't take the medication and become very ill. Secondly, he has not done any research, he had just looked up his little book of things that aren't licensed in pregnany. If he had done a google search, he would have found the wealth of information about studies showing overwhelming evidence of the safety of cyclizine and related drugs. The American College of ObsGynae regards it as safer than ginger. Don't be worried about being the 1 in a million woman for whom it's not safe, antihistamine type drugs have been used by tens of millions of women in pregnancy over several decades and there is no evidence of harm to the baby. In other words, it has no effect on the fetus, it's not that it's a low risk, it's that the risk is so close to zero as to be undetectable. You cannot be the 1 in a million woman because the drug has no ability to affect the development of the baby. Also, something the pharmacist would not have told you is the evidence to suggest that there are long term health effects to babies of women who suffer untreated HG and become dangerously dehydrated and lose lots of weight. In other words the risks to your baby of your HG not being treated are greater than the risks of taking this medication. If it were me, I would ask my GP to have a word with this pharmacist - though I'd probably have a word with him myself and make him regret ever opening his mouth Grin. As Lucinda says, the reason he only gives out 2 or 3 prescription a year is because of the abject failure of doctors in this country to get a grip with HG and treat it properly. As for duration of meds, please don't make the mistake that most of us on this thread have made at some point of thinking we must be ok and stopping the meds early - it really does end in tears. If your sickness lasted 18 weeks last time, then I would say that's your target for beginning a phased withdrawal of meds. Till then, I would take the maximum dose and just enjoy not throwing up every 5 minutes. Sorry everyone, mega-rant over, I think I need to lie down and get my blood pressure back to normal.

horseynewmum · 02/03/2012 19:42

And breathe MOH

Heartbeep · 02/03/2012 19:56

MOH thanks for the rant Smile

I totally agree with you. Now I've had time to think about it I'm quite mad too. I mean there was no benefit in the conversation other than him feeling better about himself & me feeling worse. No pregnant woman would knowingly put the health of their unborn child at risk. In my opinion the risk to my baby & my DH & DD is greater if I don't take the medication. Quite simply, I wasn't able to function at all last week & this week I can. I'm still nauseous, still sick, still exhausted BUT I have managed to work, I have managed to play with my beautiful daughter & have been able to converse with my husband, all things that were simply not possible. I have happy thoughts about this pregnancy which I really wasn't having - at all.

Thanks again for the support, it's so hard for other people to understand.

Magnumwhite · 02/03/2012 20:49

Cosmo I remember feeling really down about 16 wks as I'd had a dramatic improvement by then when pregnant with DS. This time I didn't really feel I was coping well til about 20wks - I wonder if caring for a toddler as well had a part in that as we all know tiredness affects the nausea.

also v cross about the phamacist. I'm happy to take any drug thats recommended now - fed up of trying to be strong and take minimum of things!

saw GP this wk and came away with 5 prescriptions! she was really sweet when i said i feel i have exhausted all my resources and have nothing left to give for labour. Still struggling with chronic cough, sore throat, nasal congestion heartburn and bad back. and really need to get Hb levels up now to avoid risk of post partum haemorrhage. so currently trying to get my sensitive stomach to cope with antibiotics, ranitidine, iron supplements, vit C & milk of magnesia.

Not getting much sleep here and the cough is showing up the state of my pelvic floor...

love to you all and thanks for understanding!

LucindaE · 03/03/2012 11:13

MOH So agree with all you say!
ShouldI Well, that's a relief for mother hen Lucinda here,but surely you shouldn't be back to work so soon, particularly if the meds are still not stopping the vomiting, even if they have reduced it greatly? That acid is dreadful.
Seapie Hugs. Great to hear from you.
Heartbeeps So glad you are feeling a lot better. Ihope the pharmacist's trousers fall down in his workplace Grin.
Magnum Poor you, what a nasty set of symptoms, no wonder you are apprehensive about having the energy for the birth. Cyber hugs to you and to
Horsey. That sounds nasty, can you have the dog out without his barking maddeningly? You ought to get breakfast in bed at least.

I am off to Edinburgh for a lightening trip, back on Tuesday, so Everybody, look after yourselves and each other and when I get back it will be soon time for a new thread as this one is up to about eight hundred and fifty out of a thousand, I think. That will be the fifth. Well, I did the links OK last time for a wonder!
Lucinda
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Littleplasticpeople · 03/03/2012 19:43

Just found this thread. I'm 9 weeks and suffering HG (since 6 weeks), I have worked my way though the meds but nothing is working Sad, even Zofran.

I have not been admitted because I'm not ketonic. I am eating and drinking regularly but throwing up between 10-20 times a day. I guess something must be staying down though. I would give (almost) anything for a nausea free day Sad

This is my second HG pregnancy- the first time I stopped vomiting around 16 weeks. My 2nd pregnancy I barely had any sickness at all!

Don't know why I'm posting really, I guess just because I need to moan and you guys will understand.

theonlyhb2 · 03/03/2012 23:20

ahh little plastic people, grab a cushion, pot of jelly, and a sick bowl. its good to moan here, nothing is too much info, you can never ever moan too much (even when yr not pregnant, which is lovely!) you are very lucky to have had a sickness free pregnancy in the middle of this. check out the pregnancy sos website (i should really learn links shouldn't i) as lots of us out there. Dr's are crap. just cos yr ketones are fine they think you should be fine, its hard work! hope yr getting some support with the other 2 children.

MOH, loving the rant. I would have said much the similar to him given the chance! what an absolute dick. i would love LOVE LOVE to see men cope with HG.

Most annoying HG comment (during and post) "what, you were sick every day? every single day?!!?" yes really. I wasn't exaggerating a year ago and I am not exaggerating now! In fact, once a day was pretty fucking joyful thank you very much, it was when it was 10 times a day it got tedious.

horseynewmum · 04/03/2012 08:37

Hi all I'll sorry now for all the typos but I'm on my third night of only about 4 hour sleep all night. I thought sleepness nights start after birth not before. I feel and probably look like a zombie who needs a hair wash...........................

Unfortuantly I have alot to cope with mentally atm. Family problems on in-law side that I'm having to sort due to experience/knowledge. Thankfully MIL has taken over the physical demand of problem as she has made it clear to family I'm in no fit state to do that but i'm still having to do the mental side of things by organising things and generally taking on the concerns of the family. Rant over. Going to have some pbreakfast and take it from there

x x x

theonlyhb2 · 04/03/2012 12:54

big hugs horsey.....thats why it was so important to rest for me, because about your time I stopped being able to sleep more than a few hours in a row any by the end i was up every hour in the night, mainly to wee, then to have the morning puke. It was amazing when they gave me co-codymol cos I slept for a little longer. The meds I was on were also used as a mild sedative so when I wasn't taking them at the end, I would neck 2 so I would get a bit extra sleep. thats why having a baby is so easy, not only do you get to sleep more hours in a row cos you dont need to wee every 5 minutes, it doesnt take as long when you do! and you shall be so hyper from not feeling like poo that you wont even need sleep for a few weeks and you will look at people in wonder when they say "i bet your so tired, its such hard work" and think they are off their nut :)

Please don't take on too much - mental responsibility can be much harder than the physical!

well done on breakfast, I am still yet to eat today! eating has been replaced by washing......

LucindaE · 06/03/2012 10:48

LittlePlasticPeople Welcome, sorry I wasn't about to welcome you days ago, I have just got back form a lightening trip to Edinburgh. I am so sorry that you are feeling so bad,and I am amazed with it being between ten and twenty times a day that you haven't become dehydrated, do keep an eye on it, you don't need me to tell you that, though. Feel free to moan as much as you like, who wouldn't? What meds are you on, as for sure they don't seem to be working very much? What does GP say about frequency of vomiting? Do you find sips of flat coke or jelly or ice lollies any use at all?
TheOnly Cyber hugs.
Horsey I don't think anyone should expect you to sort out ANY problem but Hyperemesis at the moment, I am glad MIL is putting her foot down. This is hard enought to get through without additional stress.
Waves anxiously to all, and anyone I've rudely overlooked.
Lucinda
xx

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FlirtyThirty · 07/03/2012 15:33

This is a thank you message!

Without this chat thread I would not have known to buy ketosticks to monitor dehydration levels. Readings off the scale are whAt prompted me to bypass my unsypathetic GP and head to a&e last week. I was admitted to hospital for meds and inordinate amounts of fluids.
I am now home with people taking how ill I am more seriously, medication which is making life tolerable (not perfect but less suicidal!) , and a clear understanding of what to do if things get worse.

No medical professional I met prior to being admitted to hospital offered anything like the expertise or advice. Found from you ladies. I am very very grateful I took your advice to head to hospital. I and my family are all the better for it. So thank you....

LucindaE · 07/03/2012 17:02

Flirty I am so glad you have had treatment and are feeling a bit better, but how awful that it was a relief to get to hospital, and I am so happy that this thread was useful to you. How are you now? How long were you in hospital?
LucindaE
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Cosmogirl · 08/03/2012 09:49

Flirty - that's great news that you got the help you needed. It truly is nothing short of shocking how poor the knowledge on HG is among the medical profession. Hopefully the Pregnancy Sickness Support Trust can do much to fight against this ignorance.

18 weeks here and still incredibly nauseous all day everyday. I had a bit of an epiphany this week when I realised I could let it depress me and control my life for the next 4 months 30 days (not that I'm counting ;) or I could try and accept that I have HG, nothing will change that and being angry and bitter every day is not helping me or my family cope through this incredibly tough time. So, it is day 2 of the 'new' me. It's not going to be easy but I have to try for everyone's sake I think. I go to bed at 7 pm and instead of getting mad and upset about having no evening or time with my husband, I am going to try to accept that I must do whatever makes this a bit easier - and basically being asleep early helps as the nausea is worse in the evenings plus I am exhausted from a full 9 hours with my almost 3 year old daughter. In 5 months or thereabouts all this will be forgotten.

Lucinda - I hope you had a lovely break in Edinburgh, what a lovely city.

Magnum - How are you doing? How many weeks/days/hours now :)?

Horsey - sorry to hear you've a lot on your plate at the moment. Are you coping ok?

xx

Cosmogirl · 08/03/2012 11:10

No fair...day two of my new approach and the nausea is really bad this morning....Trying not to let it get to me but nothing seems to be helping. Grrr, so typical!

LucindaE · 08/03/2012 11:40

Cosmo Poor you, cyber hugs - you are so right not to try and fight it every inch of the way, but it is so hard to accept and it's not at all fair if when you try and accept graciously that you don't have a life at the moment, the Hyperemeiss doesn't ease off in the slightest! I hope tommorow is a lot better!
Yes, Edinburgh is a nice city, and everyone seemed very friendly. Cold, though!
Lucinda
xx

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horseynewmum · 08/03/2012 12:21

HI all and welcome plastic and sorry your having a rough time but this thread will support you through it and give great advice as well as support.

cosmo sorry to hear your having it rough too.

lucindaglad you had a good time and yes Edinburgh is a lovely city.

flirty so glad you have been getting the right treatment at last.

only thank you for your kind words

I'm having a day of recovery after a last few hetic days sorting out family problems but now I know everything is in hand I've slept much better. Thankfully the sickness has tried to take over like it normally does when I'm tired so thats one postive.

Had my anti-D jab this week to so thats something else ticked off the list.

I've been having major problems with my left hip/pelvis where it can become so painful I walk with a slight limp and I can't lay down with my legs straight as it is a killer. Suppose this is another of the 'postive' to pregnancy everyone talks about.

Hope everyone has a day they can manage ok with. x x x

MotherofPearl · 08/03/2012 12:33

Flirty, so glad to hear you're finally getting proper treatment, but it's a pity you had to go through such an ordeal to get there. This thread is marvellous - it's taught me so much, and Lucinda does an amazing job keeping it going.

Cosmo, good for you trying to feel more positive, but don't be too hard on yourself; it's really hard to feel upbeat when you're constantly nauseous. My DP had a bug at the weekend and was sick and nauseous for all of 1 day: cue him lying in bed, feeling miserable, complaining like mad, not able to do anything etc etc. All quite understandable, but I did say to him 'try to imagine what it's like to feel like this ALL the time, for 9 whole months, and then you can perhaps see why I was so depressed and unhappy all the way through being pregnant!' Plus you have your DD to look after. Hang in there :)

MotherofPearl · 08/03/2012 12:37

X-posted there Horsey - so sorry to hear that you now have hip problems on top of everything else - bet you're practically counting the seconds until the end of your pregnancy. So unfair that some lucky people sail through it all blooming and healthy while some less lucky ones have to contend with HG as well as other health problems. Hope you get some respite soon. x

smk84 · 08/03/2012 16:44

Hi all, just popping on to say hello and send some moral support. Life is so hectic at the moment, but have 3 weeks left at work then on mat leave, so hoping to be able to catch up with you properly then. xxxx

LucindaE · 09/03/2012 10:38

TheOnly I think we cross posted, sorry to ignore you!
Plastic I just realised, you said that even 'Zofran' (that's a brand name for Ondanestron, isn't it) isn't helping. Oh, dear. I think MOH had some cocktail she found effective that involved B6 and Ondanestron, maybe she might be able to suggest something? Poor old you, it is awful when meds don't do what they are supposed to.
MOP Thanks for praise and for encouragement for current sufferers. That reminds me, we haven't updated the list of due dates in ages, only three are left from the old list.
Feekerry 19/03/2012
Magnum White 26/03/2012
Helibee 25/04/2012
How provoking OH being so oblivious about what you went through...
Horsey and Cosmo and Everyone How are things today?
Flirty Still so pleased you finally got some effective treatment...
Lucinda
xx

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horseynewmum · 09/03/2012 11:46

Morning all

Yes Pearl I cant wait till D-day. I'm just fed up with people going oh you dont know how your life will change its worse then being pregnant. I cant imagine whats worse then sickness, limping and just generally being crap but least I know I can be better in a few months.

Had a bath last night-only time legs get de-fuzzed and feet washed as its not easy to do in shower with bump anymore without feeling sick or feeling like i'm going to fall over lol but even in the bath its starting to beome a struggle.

right i'm off to master the washing (really cant be arsed might wait for DH to do it when he comes back)

Cosmogirl · 09/03/2012 14:30

Hi all,

Having a slightly better day today. Nausea was really bad last night so gave up and went to bed at 6.30...rock n roll I am :)

I found my diary from my last pregnancy and I went to preg yoga at 28 weeks - had to give up after a few weeks cos of nausea but the fact I even enrolled on a 7-8.30 pm yoga class shocks me as this time the nausea has been so bad I am ruined in the evenings...

MOP - thank you. You are so right. In theory I can be all accepting and positive mental attitude, but putting that into practice when constantly nauseated is soo hard. I think just trying to be more happy when I have better moments is a good place to start, and I'll see how I get on. Not sure it is at all possible to 'enjoy' a HG pregnancy. Would be happy to be proved wrong but......

Hi Lucinda - My due date is 8/8/2012.

DH back from work early today at 3.30 cos we have a doctor's appt for DD. Nice not to be dragging myself through until 5 pm.... It has been a struggle lately.

theonlyhb2 · 09/03/2012 18:15

hi all!

lucinda hoping edinburgh was for pleasure, not business? how is you mum doing?

MoP hows things going with you and you little one?

horsey pffft nothing is as bad as pregnancy. i refuse to speak to people who say its fun and they love it (thats a bit of a lie, my best friend said this and I do still speak to her! she was all prepared to be as ill as me and had nothing but some bleeding. Mind you, I think I would rather the sickness than that as no one could tell her why it kept happening til almost 20 weeks! she has a more demanding baby than me, so I do think the shitter the pregnancy, the nicer the baby. Please no one disprove this theory!)

cosmo i found a leaflet for pregnancy yoga I was going to do, never even managed to sign up, I had a little laugh at all the plans I made when i first found out I was pregnant.

deffo a new expecting list needed! I shall start it off. To add yourself, copy and paste the below list into the comments box, then you can add yourself and your due date in :)

Feekerry 19/03/2012
Magnum White 26/03/2012
Helibee 25/04/2012
Cosmogirl 08/08/2012

theonlyhb2 · 09/03/2012 18:17

how rude of me, hello smk yay only 3 weeks left at work! have you got the manic nesting?! I got that my last few weeks at work, suddenly super productive and cleared out all my computer, drawers, files and wrote up loads of office procedures. bloody glad I did that now as I shall be consulting them all when I go back as cant remember anything!

horseynewmum · 10/03/2012 09:21

Feekerry 19/03/2012
Magnum White 26/03/2012
Helibee 25/04/2012
Horseynewmum 23/05/2012
Cosmogirl 08/08/2012

Morning all. Spoke to soon the other day about sickness not crept in with all tiredness as i spent from 4-5am sat on loo with a bucket doing all sorts and god do i feel shit this morning. Don't help builders in too. (DH and a mate)

right going back to bed with the bucket

Hope everyone else is coping ok

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