Pregnancy post mc: Totally's grads part 9

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New thread!

I got mine online at lunchtime cep - sorry, should have said that!

Hello hello hello Ladies...

Missed you all....

Think I've missed way too much to remember everything but will try - but only if I get to join in with the group (((hug)))...

Scared about meeting you now BigMac - have decided you definitely have to be a 50 yo bloke with a penchant (or perviness) for pregnant women. Dachs - come along to the London meet and you'll recognsise BigMac as the only man on a table surrounded by slightly scared looking / bewildered pregnant ladies.

Coconuts - how are you feeling today m'lady?

Daisy - glad to hear all seems okay with little one - maybe she's just more relaxed.

Blackkat - been down the same road and am sending you lots of love and thoughts - if you need to talk offline at any point, please just let me know and I'll be there in a flash.

Collie - welcome back; missed you. Are you going to take Baby away in the camper van? I want popcorn now by the way.

Coconuts - re. name, I've had a similar discussion with DH. I have chosen the first name, Luca (well I thought we both chose it but he is convinced I chose it. I secretly might well have done and then thought I'd successfully made him think he'd chosen it with me. If I labour the point then he might go off it altogether). As a sweetener I said I'd be happy for us to go with his choice of middle name which also happens to be the longer version of my brother's name. My brother is a seriously maddening, pain in the arse, wholly incapable and pathetic 23 yo and there is no way that I ever want anyone to think I named our first born son after him (which I fear everyone might assume). However, it so happens that he has a fab name so I am just going to go with it. We're adding my Dad's name as a third name and that is deliberate. I'd say that if you like the name, go with it - I am sure that few people outside of your family circle would ever make a connection and your other brother will understand. As for your friend, well if it were me, I'd be flattered.

My NCT classes start (again) tonight... They were supposed to have started the same day as the riots but being in the heart of Brixton, the course leader decided it might be wise to cancel. I have to confess that I am actually dreading them (with the same dread I used to reserve for Sunday school). Am worried DH will go with a combative stance - he is already convinced that everyone at NCT is a tree-hugging do-gooder that will not allow us to leave the building until I swear to breastfeed Baby for his entire childhood. Tonight's session is two hours long. I fear I might not be able to stay awake. I also fear I might get the giggles.

Got v peed off with a colleague who asked me if I'm going on maternity leave next week "based on the size of my bump". Based on the size of his mouth, I suggested he shut up. I still have seven whole weeks left in the office. And bump isn't too big - it is just high and very up-front.

I am tired. I need a siesta. And I need a Kitkat Chunky

Just peeking in from the 'freak out' room to say I had my 20 week scan today and all is still well :) :) :) I actually feel excited !

Baby had his/her hand over the vital parts so we don't know if it's s/he still.

But just over the moon that all is still well.

daisy so glad the appointment went well. If she?s small but within the normal ranges then that sounds ok to me??and personally I?d prefer a little 6lber than a whopping 9lber! [Smile] I hope you are now going to take it easy and do less of the running around than you have been. Thanks for relaying what they said about movement, its helpful to know that each kick should be counted individually. Pup certainly is a wriggly little bugger, DH thinks he?s got a great left foot ? typical bloke! Pups been a bit quieter this past day or so though, but still enough movement for me to not worry?I think!!

cep how are your movements?

coconuts I can imagine you are worried about Thursdays scan, and that you are trying to figure out all eventualities. But if you can just try to forget about it for now as there is nothing you can do to alter what?s going on and either way minicoconuts will be fine. I would expect that if he is already big and you have lots of fluid then even if they take you term, they are unlikely to let you go over?I would have thought, but then I am hardly a doctor! Thinking of you Thursday though.

Not sure on name etiquette. How close is your friend and how likely would you be to use the nickname (their chosen name) over the full name. If highly likely and they are close friends you see a lot and are likely to send a lot of time together with then I think id rather not have my ds sharing the same name ? from yours and her perspective. But say the name is William, and she had used Billy and you would only use William, then I think that?s fine. As for your db, I think ask him if he would mind and if not, and you use it I?d just be clear to your other brothers that you are not naming the child after this db, you just like the name. I wouldn?t be offended. Lady at work told me today that her dd had a little baby first 2 weeks ago, and she STILL doesn?t have a name. In competition is Suzuki ? yes as in the Bike!

Blackkat I?m glad to hear your dad has finished the radiology, that must have been hard in itself. Can't imagine how hard waiting to know the results must be. At least during the treatment, that?s your focus. I hope he gets an appointment soon and that he gets the all clear. Please let us know how he goes on. And congrats on 5years of marriage this year too! I met dh when I was just 20 so I?ve pretty much been with him the whole of my adult life, which is indeed a scary thought!! But as you say, I don?t know where the time has gone!

First day back to work today and I?m shattered! I was moved into another office whilst I was off and literally all my crap stuff has just been dumped in boxes on and around my desk so spent the whole day having a clear out ? 2 rubbish bags and 4 recycle bags later and I?m done. I am actually furious with the bloke I share the office with as he has sat there all day watching me struggle lugging boxes and bags about, without any offer of help. Which as you can imagine got me in a hot flush, so I opened the window ? which he sits next to at his request because he is so hot all the time apparently, and when I go out he goes and shuts the bloody thing!!!! I?m too bloody polite to say anything so have spent the past couple of hours sweltering feeling like I was going to pass out!

And my back is bloody killing now too. I think my bra is too small for me again. Cup is fine but at the end of the day when I?ve eaten, if I undo the back I really struggle to fasten it up again, so think I?ve gone up a back size. Also feel like it might be time to move to non-underwire bras, which I feel loath to do, but I have been wondering over the past week or so if the underwire is contributing to the numb feeling I?m having in that area. Are people in non-underwire bras? Any recommendations. Might drop into M&P tomorrow to try a couple on. M&S have a really drab selection.

3d scan for me tomorrow. I am mainly really excited to see our little baby boy again especially in a private scan where I can really get to see him and what hes up to. But also a little nervous??a scan will always be a daunting prospect now I think. Also hoping to confirm he IS indeed a boy ? heard so many ?told it was boy, out popped a girl? stories recently!

Right, the office is quiet so I?m going to slip out early!

x-posts hariy ohhhh thats FAB FAB news, sooooooo pleased for you. the 20wk scan is a huge milestone and made a big difference to me in allowing myself to believe this could happend and in starting to look forward. I am soooo glad to hear that you are feeling excitied. I hope you'll be doing more delurking from now on then! xx

lara yes hopefully we'll take baby away in the camper

hairy that's great news, congratulations.

collie he sounds like a right arse. Now you've moved desks you need to have a proper health and safety desk assessment again, and i'd mention being too hot if i were you, so they either get you a fan or he has to open the window. (oh and have you been on the nov thread? poppet and chip have both delivered.)

thank you for asking, movement seems ok this evening, but i do keep forgetting to count.

Evening ladies

daisy sorry to hear about your scare and I'm so glad everything is ok now. I'd feel exactly like you and your DH too and just want her out if I was worrying. Put your feet up and relax x

bigmac pmsl at the thought of you being a 50 year old man with a fetish for preg women

blackkat everything crossed for your dad and good news x

lara how were the NCT classes? Ours aren't till I'm 33 weeks so ages yet but keep hearing mixed stuff about them

hairy yay for 20 week scan Are you on the list now?

collie the camper van sounds so cool. Am v it must be so chilled. Work mate sounds like a real arse.

Went into work today for the end of summer hols and someone I've not seen for weeks told me my bump wasn't very big but that I look like I'm spreading out Don't know what the hell that means- does she mean I now have a fat arse? People do think they can say anything about size now don't they? You wouldn't say to a non-preg person "oooh aren't you chunking out!!!!' Or maybe I should start

Also went to midwife and she noticed my 12 week scan date was earlier than the 20 week one so has moved my EDD to the 12th Dec. Yay less time to wait!

Oh and the cookies were delicious and dead easy to make have eaten about ten in the last two days! So maybe I am spreading out!

Morning it?s been a busy week with IL?s visiting, finishing the jobs around the house, etc

milkyways how is the shopping for your little man going?
Irene I?ve been missing a nice glass of red, and also like Beck Blue, it?s the only drink I?ve found that appears to be remotely alcoholic. Have you seen this website? I haven?t tried it myself but keep meaning to as some of the beers look nice.
Minnie people really just don?t think about what they say, they forget that they are talking about a person?s body not just a detached bump that can?t hear them! I?ve been told I?m big, neat, girl, boy ? and also fatty which was said affectionately but doesn?t help when added to all the other comments that day. Yay for earlier DD
Sunchild I remember you from the TTC thread, tis lovely to see you here :) good work on the shopping. I went through a long phase of feeling ill if I didn?t eat all the time regularly enough
Daisy those booties are so cute! I?m sure the cramps are just your body gearing up in advance for the main event. Sorry to hear she gave you a scare, I hope she perks up a bit now
Velvet for you and your absent mother! Mine?s been equally useless, offered to visit for the first time this year (!) then when I pressed her for a date she took it back :(
coconuts everyone, including mw, told me I?d be lucky to make it to full term. I did have that false start, but am pretty much term now. The girls name I have is a family members, but it is because I really like it, so will make clear it isn?t naming after
hairy fantastic news on the scan makes me so happy to hear good news like this 20 weeks felt like a massive milestone for me, dh said it was like a weight had been lifted from me
Collie how did the scan go? MiniO napped all the way through my 3D scan, still fab though
Regarding kicks, my mw said that one bout of kicks only counts as 1 in counting terms, so it has to be at least 10 separate kicking episodes. But I?ve been in when miniO wasn?t being it?s usual self/pattern which she also said to be aware of rather than purely counting

The last few days I really do now feel huge and wondering if miniO continues to grow where it?ll find room :) dh is hoping it hangs on until tomorrow so it?ll be a September baby and the oldest in the year, but tbh we?ll be happy whenever it decides it?s ready to meet us. He?s also had the thoughtful idea of commissioning a ring for me with miniO?s birthstone, if it?s August I get Peridot and September I get Sapphire, so I?m a day off Sapphire

I hope everyone?s doing ok today? There?s so many ladies talking of mat leave, it?s fab to read :)

Morning all

orange Lovely to hear from you. The ring idea has choked me a little bit - that's so lovely. I will share this idea with MrBigMac. Just as an FYI you know :) Now, no matter what you do, keep those legs crossed until tomorrow! Hmmm, wonder what the Nov/Dec stones are. Just out of interest.

collie That numb feeling... someone was saying on another thread (brian -sorry) that numbness could be as the muscles round your ribs separate as the pup expands. In terms of bra straps, La Senza do a bra strap extender that might see you through? I think it is a fiver. I was going to try and hold out in wired bras for as long as I can unless it's really uncomfortable/digging in, mainly because I am now a FF (dear god) and the idea of seeing a shelf boob everyday might break me. Also, I think you perfectly within your rights to karate chop your colleague in the nadger (if you can bear it). What a tool.

hairy Amazing. I am so chuffed for you . Happy, happy news. Now, jjooooiiinnnnnnnn usssssssss

daisy a lady at work is going to knit those Uggs for me. They are so cute.

Off to M&P tonight to perv at prams again. I went a bit mental on the weekend and was about to buy a second hand cameleon from ebay for £500. Then had a word with myself and have changed my mind. I really really want the cameleon but want a new pram and can't afford the price tag for a new bugaboo. The Oyster is great, but MrB kicks the chassy as he walks (lanky bugger) so that's out so now thinking about the M&P Sola or Maclaren XLR at a push - really not that keen on the latter.

Right, off to read TopGear magazine AHEM Grazia as I am a lady. A real lady. Not a man. No men here. Nope.

bigmac November is Topaz and December is Turquoise. October is opal. September is far nicer... April, when mine is due, is Diamond! Would be lovely, but we have the remembrance ring for the twins now so I don't think DH will be getting me another one!

organge that website is ace!! How are you and miniO? I think its amazing that one day can make such a difference to a childs school year and life. Being the youngest in the class must make a huge difference in the early years. Oh, thats such a lovely idea of having a ring made with the birthstone. I love sapphires. DH took me shopping to look for an enernity ring, and actually considered something with sapphire. I think initially he wanted it to be a suprise and he picked my engagement ring which i love, but he thought i'd enjoy the shopping (which i do!!) Think i like this one. Have seen another where he bought my engagement and wedding ring but its a wee bit expensive!

Minnie the storeis people have of people commenting on size continue to me. People should just shut their pie holes!! I'd just love to retort back with a fat comment. I've actually been strangley lucky. I've had the odd 'oh you're tiny' and 'oh you're huge' comments, but i've really been spared some of the shocking comments people on here have had and i also haven't suffered the dreaded tummy touching yet either! People just seem to say away from me. Maybe i have a scary look about me?!!

There is no hope, i've already spread out so what the hell!!!

cep thanks for promoting me about the nov thread, i do really struggle to keep up especially when im busy. I had noticed on fb that someone (can't remember her mn name and dont want to out her) had given birth to Williow. Freaked me out a bit for sure! I've posted on the thread now.

Scan not till 4.15. I'm working from home.

Yay Dachs don't think I said congratulations yet, but HUGE CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!! Very Thrilled for you!
Daisy I'm so glad you are ok :)
Hairy FAB news on the scan, its such a huge relief isnt it? :) Also a wee bit glad to see you don't know the sex! I don't know either and it will be fun trying to guess..
Orange I really really want a ring too! DH would never ever think of such a thing. Ive been trying hard for years to get him to get me an eternity ring, but he keeps saying we have plenty of time etc sulks
Hello hello to everyone else!!

I'm still starving. Had a mild panic this morning that I hadnt felt movement for a while, but then ate 3 slices of white toast with lemon curd.. That woke baby up! HA HA :o

Hope you are having a good day wherever you are!

bigmac I mentioned the numb feeling to my Chrio this morning and he said something similar. He said there is a nerve around that area that could be getting squished, just by my kidney. He said its common, that he could try and work on it but its unlikley he'll be able to do anything. He has been doing some work to open my ribs to ease my back ache and indigestion, both have eased, but this tingling has got worse so could also be linked to my ribs openning i guess. Its just sooo annoying. I love how i have to go to my chrio for a decent answer to my aliments. All i get from my cmw is 'you're pregnant, your body is changing'!! IS it?? I hadn't noticed!!

Dachs at month stone being diamond. But nothing could replace your remeberance ring. But a pair of dimond earings to wear with it wouldn'd go amiss!! How are you lovely? Whats your next milestone?

Thanks sunchild :) I'm glad your pg seems to be progressing well. Could you tell DH about orange's ring and what a nice idea you think it is, then keep mentioning it every so often?

collie I have my first scan next Monday, when I'll be 6+0 and then I'm seeing my obstetrician next Thursday - hope to have another sneaky peek! Then I have a scan at the clinic the following week, and would assume I'll be seeing my obstetrician every two weeks. Am petrified there will be no heartbeat next week, but assuming there is I won't be relaxing at all until at least 28 weeks this time. It's silly to assume there will be no heartbeat as I've been getting v v v strong lines on hpt and CB digi went up to 3+ two days earlier than expected, so I'm hoping there is in fact something there, but I just can't even be vaguely happy yet as I daren't rely on it being real. I know it's silly but I'm deeply deeply miserable at the moment, and cross with myself for being miserable because it's silly! I like the idea of diamond earrings. Now I just have to persuade DH it's a good idea :)

Oh dachs It's far from silly that you are feeling this way. I know your expected to be over the moon and full of joy with a bfp, but you've been through so much and so recently that its perfectly normal that you would be feeling aprehensive, worried, freaked out etc. I am sorry you are feeling so but i think thats hardly suprising too. I can imagine going through these early stages must be bringing back so many memories and emotions. The first few weeks are hard enough after a post mc bfp, so i can't imagine how hard they are for you. I am sure once you get the reasurance next week that the little bean is growing ok, you'll start to feel a little happier (I hope so), but i can totally understand you wont be able to realx until 28 weeks. I just hope each week gets easier. You deserve this so very much. I cannot wait to still be lurking on here in April and see you get your happy ending!!

dachs completely agree with collie - you are about as far away from being silly as it's possible to be. Don't be hard on yourself (realise this is easier said than done), you are perfectly within your rights to feel however you want for as long as you want... whatever gets you through the next few weeks. Also re diamond - massive win! Agree that nothing could replace your remembrance ring, but also agree that earrings would look just lovely.

Thanks for the heads up re my stone. Am slightly at mine compared to diamond and sapphire. However, I won't be getting a ring so should just shut up!

collie the lack of knowledge and dismissal of 'oh it's because your PG' is so frustrating. There must be a better way for the medical profession and other health professionals to work together so that pain and discomfort isn't written off as something just to be borne. Stupid.

sorry for the second post... Happymeal is feeling kicky today (8 kicks/nudges/squirms since I got to work) but very low and I just wondered if any of you ever feel like their beans have just curled up into their pelvis, out of the way?

Hey everyone, sorry for being so quiet recently - been a busy old time with work and now off on Hols for a few days rest. Good to read and hear everyone seems to be doing well, although sorry to hear about the scare daisy. collie good to have you back and glad you had a good holiday. Lara would love to hear how your nct went also, keep trying to get round to booking mine but none of the courses quite seem to fit my dates/availability right so I just can't decide right now whether to bother.

I booked my flu jab for late sept today-anyone else having one or am I uber keen? (happen to get a very bad bout of flu over Christmas and ny last year, right whilst I was waiting to miscarry again!) so def want to try and avoid it this year, what with being pg.

Anyway, sorry not to name check some more, will catch up properly in a few days. dachs wishing you all the best for your scan on Monday, I can only imagine how difficult the last few weeks have been x

afternoon ladies.

collie If that's not the expensive one, how much is the expensive ring??

am very of all the ring talk, dh wouldn't even think about it. i may have to prompt him, but then things have been so....difficult..... between us lately i can't see it happening until we know things are better.

orange good luck for next few days.

I love all this ring talk. I went on a big jewellery buying spree when pregnant with DS. Got some rings stolen so had insurance money to spend. Managed diamond earrings, diamond ring and a diamond half eternity ring. Nothing for me this time then, although I quite like the idea of an opal ring.

Dachs I'm not surprised you're feeling low. Early pregnancy is hard enough without what you've been through.

I've started nesting a bit, if that means going through all DS's old baby clothes and washing the lining of the moses basket. I've been taken aback at how nice the nursery mums have been seeing as I barely know most of them. I've had bags of sheets and muslins given to me and offers of moses baskets. It is nice to live in a friendly village. I'm thinking I'll do the antinatal classes again, although not NCT. Might meet some more people. Can't imagine I'll be as lucky as last time. My NCT friends in London are all fab.

Has anyone else become nocturnal??

collie how was the 3D scan? Was the pup doing any tricks? I am of the campervan, it sounds fab!

All this ring chat is v cool! dachs shoot for the earrings I reckon :D

Irene my friend who's got a 4 month old little boy reckons that the NCT coffee mornings have been great and she's met loads of people that way, so maybe if the antenatal classes don't help you meet people, that might?

Right, I'm off to try for a bit of sleep.......

Morning All

Loving the ring talk. My lovely DH bought me some diamond earrings in Dubai and they're in the safe waiting for the arrival of Little One.... I love the birthstone idea too.

Collie - can't wait for news of the 3D scan - I was oh-so very tempted but decided to hold off.

For those that asked, the NCT class was, dare I say it, good fun! Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately), DH struck up a strong rapport with 3-4 of the other blokes and they all started behaving like teenagers, making jokes the whole way through... I kept having to give him evil looks to behave! He was very cynical about NCT classes beforehand so I am relieved he enjoyed the first one - all the women were just hoping the menfolk were paying attention and taking it seriously! We have the next one in two weeks time but we're all meeting for drinks next Tuesday night. The first session was more of an overview but still very informative. What was great was some of the interactive stuff - the course leader split us into two groups - mums-to-be and dads-to-be. It meant that both groups could talk more frankly than perhaps they would if their OHs were there. We then regrouped afterwards and it was incredible to compare the differences and similarities between the discussions. For those of you finding that the pg is impacting your relationship in any way (or giving you anxieties about the future), the class seems great for that as there is lots of talk about the impact of a baby / pregnancy on relationships / sex / finances etc.
I complained before that the course was being held at her house (whereas my sister's was at the Hilton Islington) but it was actually lovely and quite cosy - she had lots of comfy chairs, low lighting and tonnes of tea / biscuits. My course is very drawn out (eight sessions from now until the end of October) but the benefits of that are that we have time to build friendships.

Cep - sorry to hear you're going through a bad patch at the mo - if it's any consolation, things are also v rocky chez Lara. We had a great evening last night with lots of talk and laughter and then a big argument to start the day today.

BigMac - my kicks are all over the place. I woke up the night before last because he was doing sensational movements in my stomach - I could feel him turning and turning and moving his legs. It was incredible. Today however, the movements are barely noticeable so I guess he's kicking deeper inside me and so I can't feel it as much. Sometimes he gives me kicks in the bladder and I need to wee. I don't know if it's related to my high anterior placenta, but my kicks definitely feel milder than people have described.

Oops - another essay - sorry...

Morning all!

Pink I just missed you this morning, I am also on a completely broken sleep pattern, but managed to drift off about 2.30am...

Coconuts I think if you like the name then you should go for it.

Hairy Congratulations on the great scan news - brilliant!

Collie I also have camper van envy - it sounds amazing!

Bigmac How was the pram-perving? Who was that WIW's OH was worried might sell her for camels? Was it Bigmac?

Loving the ring talk here. OH mentioned something vaguely about getting me a present, but shut up about it when I said I wanted an E-type jag....

Dachs as the others have said you are the LAST person to be called silly! I'm sorry you're feeling so but as Collie said its completely understandable and for what its worth I think you are immensely brave!

All is ok here, but I am under instructions to rest up so I think I may have to miss the northern meet . OH and my mother are putting up an incredible security operation to keep me confined to barracks , they have also deployed the old sheepdog to keep an eye on me - who won't currently leave my side and according to his old owner has form for having a sixth sense when babies are arriving .

Morning

lara glad NCT was so good - ours start first week of October and if it's anything like that I'll be happy. Thanks for kick reassurance as well. It's so hard to know what's normal. I also get the bladder kicks or pressure so that I think I need a wee and in fact don't. It must be anterior placenta related (I have that too)

daisy pram-perving was very successful. I've now got my heart set on the M&P Sola (within budget, funky autumnal colours oh, and it is easy to steer and stuff) but am just going to check out a Maclaren xlr techno today. (don't know if I should be exciting you with all this talk of prams!). I love, love, love that you have lassie looking after you

And it wasn't me who was going to sell wiw for camels, I think that might have been lara. I'll sell the Southern meet up ladies for a bugaboo cameleon :)

pink normally yes I would be prowling at around 3 but last night I had my first good nights sleep in weeks. So today I am full of beans and joy and it's a beautiful day.

irene nesting sounds lovely - hope you find an excellent group of ladies where you are

doo i get a flu jab at work and will most definitely be getting one. One dose of flu is enough for anyone I think and the idea of being PG and with flu? Geesh.

Have a lovely day everyone