Early scan, gestational sac and yolk sac but no fetus yet

[Coconutfeet]

This is my fifth pregnancy, I have one dc.

I'm 7+5 based on my lmp, although I chart and know that I ovulated around cd 18 which would make me 7+1, I think.

Because I have a history of miscarriage I had an early scan today. They saw a gestational sac and a yolk sac but no fetus yet. They are going to rescan me in 2 weeks. They've told me to try and relax and that everything is in line with a very early pregnancy. But although I know it's early, I'm in a complete state. I'm pretty sure with ds I had a scan at around 7+6 and we saw a heartbeat.

I know no-one can tell me how my pregnancy is going to go but I'd be interested to hear from anyone who had a similar experience and to know how it turned out - good or bad.

belgina, so sorry it was bad news for you. Absolutely take your time to decide what is best for you. If it helps (which it probably won't) I had never had a GA before and was scared too but it was actually all fine and I was only under for about 20 minutes. But I understand how you feel. If you are close to your mum I'm sure she will support you however she feels about a DC4. Take care of yourself.

I'm so sorry to hear that Belgina. As Artifarti says, take your time. I know it's not the same, but feel free to talk to us if you want to. As well as the emotional side of things, you'll be thinking about the practicalities of going through all this with 3dcs to look after.

soo sorry belgina, im sure if you tell your mum the situation she would be supportive no matter what she thinks of you having dc4 it helps when people know why you are feeling down, GA is scary but they dont put you under for long and you can get back to normal quicker it was deffinitely better for me on my 1st mc and i was going to have it done with my 2nd but it happened quite quickly so i didnt end up needing it xxx

Thank you. The practicalities of the other dcs definitely are on my mind + DH would have to take time off to drive me etc... On the other hand being off work for as long as I have already, I feel I really need to get back, because i'm feeling bad about being of work for so long. But I'd be worried about the misc starting at work if I were to go the conservative route, but feel that I couldn't really take time of work as that could be weeks... DH wants me to give it 2 weeks to see how things go and go back to work at the same time. I'm not so sure about that. My head is such a muddle. If only things were more simple. I'm also much more upset about it that I anticipated, especially as I'd sort of expected this scan result with all the bleeding I've been having.

Belgina - My friends mother bleed all throughout her pregnancy in fact all of her pregnancies and she never had a problem. Try and stay positive because if there's one thing we know for sure is that stress is no good for pregnancy.

Jelly - Facebook doesn't make you sad at all it's better for you now if you focus on what makes you feel good and not what makes you worry of feel bad. I was exactly the same te the long year we were trying to conceive and all the people around me were falling preggers by accident.

Coconut - I'm so glad to see you staying positive, I think your strength gives us all a little drive to stay stronger.

Now I just need to find a way to keep myself sane and my mind off anything bad until friday. I've been reading my favourite author and trying to take it easy. But I just wish I had mroe hours at work.

Oh God, I didn't see there were more posts I'm so, so sorry belgina. I was praying it would be god news for you.

Belgina - I totally understand why you don't want to go back to work before it's all happened. It would be so difficult to keep your mind on the job.

I'm not saying you should do this of course - but I've found the physical side of the ERPC surprisingly OK. I only work Mon - Wed and so am taking this week off work but I would probably have gone back on Thursday or Friday if I worked those days. When I had a natural MC I found the recovery time took longer - I just felt completely wiped out.

Have you spoken to your mum yet?

Thanks everyone. I've now decided to go for the ERPC, though I am slightly terrified. But after these 2 horribly stressful weeks of waiting I just want it over with now. However due to practical reasons from my side, I will need to wait until next week. Hopefully I'll misc naturally after that. I do think that the egg stopped developing 4 weeks or so ago, and clearly my body hasnt been very good at removing it so far. I want to TTC asap. I feel I'm waisting time waiting.

I have called my mum, but haven't told her. I really don't want her to know about TTC and a misc would tell her all she needs to know. She knows that there's no way I would ever get pregnant unplanned. I did off load to enough people (MN friends, DH) for it not to be as much of a burden anymore and am already feeling that that first shock is passing.

Belgina - Well done for making a decision. Is there any particular aspect of the ERPC that scares you, or is it just a general operation thing?

I do find it odd about the body hanging on to a failed pregnancy for so long. I was pondering that about my blighted ovum. It's bizarre isn't it.

Jelly - did you get to see your GP?

How is everyone else?

belgina - if you need the ERPC, it will be fine, honestly. But as Coconutfeet says, ask if you want to know anything specific. I waited five days for mine and to begin with I was hoping I would mc naturally but as time went on, I just wanted the ERPC. Recovery has been very quick (physically). Like you I just want to TTC again asap but I am trying to be good and waiting for first period after ERPC just so I know I'm physically okay (although part of me just wants to throw caution to the wind!)

Bella - hope you are okay and managing to stay positive. Although this pg didn't end well, I was in a similar situation to you before - just a sac at 6+2 and DS is currently smearing bovril round the kitchen so it can end well. Hang in there.

I know what you mean, Coconutfeet. I just think if it all went wrong at the egg meets sperm stage, why did my body still think I was pg at 8 weeks?! Sometimes the body is very clever, sometimes not. How are you feeling? I have my sister staying which is taking my mind off everything.

Hope you are all okay.

Thanks every one. It's the GA that scares me. In my job I've seen a fair few people being put under and so rationally I know it's safe etc... But having witnessed it is what has scared me. It's that sudden loss of consciousness and that tube down the throat that I find terrifying. Not the actual ERPC.

coconutfeet artifarti it is really odd isn't it how the body can get it so wrong sometimes. I wonder why.... How are you otherwise?

jelly how are you. Good idea about staying away from Facebook for a while.

bella how are you? The wait is horrible, isn't it?

Hi everyone. Unfortunately can't get to see my gp until Feb 15th. (you literally have to be at deaths door to get one urgently) So,in the meantime,have decided to dust off the Wii,and try and lose a bit of weight. At least I'll be thinking of calories rather than obsessing about fertility/ovulation/pregnancy. Sending you all big hugs xx

belgina - I never saw any sign of the tube, it had gone by the time I woke up. But it's understandable that you are scared. I know I was.

I'm okay. Sister staying so no time to think and get low. Dreading when she leaves tomorrow though. Back to work next week which will be a distraction but my colleagues drive me mad at the best of times, they are so negative about everything.

jelly - that is annoying about your GP but glad you have found a focus. I have decided to give up alcohol to add to my healthkick obsession. I don't drink much anyway so it's not really that big a deal but justfeel that I want to be in tip-top .

Thinking of you all.

jelly at my GP you can ring 1st thing in the morning for a same day appt. They fit you in when there are cancelations or tag you on at the end (like today). They'll only do it if it's urgent and misc is IMO.

artifart enjoy your sister's visit. Nice to have something to distract you :)

The GP wrote me a sicknote until next Tues (ERPC is on mon) and i'm not actually back until the fri. I figured that would give me enough time. When I phoned work, the mw in charge straightaway said I was made and wrote me off sick for that Friday too. So I won't be back until the weekend after. And even that she found too little for me. How nice is that??!

Belgina - How are you today? Good to hear that work are being so supportive and that you can take the time you need. I can understand your feelings about the ERPC. I think I might have felt differently about it all had I actually witnessed the op.

Artifarti - How are you feeling? I was desperate for a day on my own yesterday but when I actually had it I just slumped about doing very little and feeling glum which wasn't good. I think I need to get off my arse and actually do something today otherwise I'll just feel worse.

Bella - Are you managing to keep sane during the wait?

coconutfeet I know how you feel about needing some time on your own. I'm constantly surrounded by people that need caring for, DH, the dcs. I just want to be on my own for a day, not at home though. I feel like I want to go out somewhere for a long walk/browse of the shops on my own without being harassed every 5 mins. Basically I want to be left alone for a bit. DH keeps asking about things he's expecting me to do. He's not been the most supportive, probably because from the outside I look well, IYKWIM. He sort of expects me to carry on as normal, while I want to have a day of just being spoilt, but with moving house etc...he's been so incredibly busy and I feel as if he thinks all the work has been on my shoulders and o haven't done a thing.
Dd2 is ill today and didn't sleep well at all due to her cough and blocked nose, so I've got another day of caring for others ahead of me. On top of it I've got her cold too and am feeling pretty grotty too.

bella. How are you coping? Still on the Wii?

artifarti. How are you doing?

Funnily enough I am my own now for the first time since the ERPC last FRiday and I've been dreading it. Sister left earlier. I finally had a good cry on her which made me feel a bit better and now I'm having another cry whilst DS is napping as I don't like him to see me upset all the time. You just want someone to tell you when it will stop obsessing you/upsetting you but of course it isn't that easy. Doesn't help that it's so cold and grotty outside either.

Sorry about your DD2, belgina, you sound a bit worn out. I think it is hard for DHs to get it as physically you recover so quickly. Mine is being sweet but thinks that I need to be constantly seeing people and doing things to take my mind off it when sometimes all I want to do is just think about it and bawl for an hour! Is there no way you could do something for a couple of hours at the weekend?

Coconutfeet - I so feel for you, having been here before. Hope you are okay. Have you heard anything more about referrals?

Oh Belgina - It sounds like it's all going on for you at the moment. Moving house on its own is stressful enough, let along with all this plus a sickly child added into the mix! Sorry to hear your dh hasn't been that supportive. I think it can be hard for them to know what it feels like. I hope he steps up to it once you've had the op, as you'll need someone to lean on then.

Artifarti - It's good that you were able to let it all out on your sister. Lat night I thought I was doing OK then I sobbed all over dp when I got into bed. Thankfully ds is blissfully unaware of anything. I had a bit of a cry a few days ago and he just looked at me,laughed and said "That's a really funny noise Mummy!"

How are you doing physically? I started bleeding today, having not really bled much up till now and I feel really bloated and uncomfortable. I'm assuming that's normal. Have you got anything similar?

No news on the referrals. I'm going to call them next week, by which time hopefully I'll be in the system as I'd like to get an idea of how long it's going to be, whether I can be doing anything in the meantime and, crucially, whether they recommend that we continue to TTC while we wait. I don't really feel like I can hang around at my age but the thought of going through all this again is hideous.

Coconutfeet - I didn't bleed much for the first couple of days then red-ish for a couple of days and now more brown (sorry if TMI!) They said that unless there were huge amounts of blood, big clots or very smelly, not to worry. I guess it's a bit like when you've given birth (on a much lesser scale) when it can be a bit stop-start. I feel bloated but that could be all the chocolate to be honest (which is strangely not yet part of my excessive healthkick!)

Hope everyone is okay.

Bella - thinking of you for your scan tomorrow.

bella all the best for tomorrow.

artifarti coconutfeet nell the fact that this thread has really slowed down must mean that you're all gradually getting back to normal.

DH let me have a much needed lie in this morning, which was very nice. Though I was very dissapointef yesterday that his 1st reaction to me announcing that the ERPC would be on Monday was that it clashed with his football training. I did tell him my feelings. I think my lie in might have had a little to do with him feeling guilty...
I keep being worried that the scanners made a mistake and that there was actually some growth. Maybe I need to phone them and tell them about my fears. The fear has been getting worse and worse and tonight is quite strong. I'm still loosing small amounts of dark mucousy blood though, so I suppose they must have been right, but still... The doubt and fear won't go away.

belgina - if you are really worried, I would definitely phone them and have a chat. I was looking on a mc website this afternoon that suggested doing just that if you were worried. I'm sure they will have heard it before. It is better to put your mind at rest now than always be thinking 'what if?' I really would call them. Glad you got a lie-in though; hope you have a few treats this weekend, even if it's only tea and cake with your feet up for half an hour.

A better day for me today where I felt 'normal' and had a nice day with a pg friend and then in the park with DS. I still think about it all the time though but my obsessing is now about when to TTC again etc. And I know that there will be more sad days to come.

Oh - and just because this thread slows down, I will still check it in case anyone has a bad day.

Thank you artifarti that's so kind of you. I think I'll call them in the morning. I do feel a little silly, but whenever i look down, my belly looks so big. I sort of look pregnant and I think that's where my doubts come from

Glad to hear everything is getting back to normal with you and glad that TTC is now first on your mind again. I can't wait to be there myself again soon.

Hey all,just checking in. belgina,I totally agree with artifarti,definitely call and tell them your fears. Surely another scan would put your mind "at rest"? I know that feeling of dread and it just eats away at you. Isn't it strange how men react? I lost a baby at 20+5 last year,and my DP kept all his grief to himself for fear of upsetting me. I've also had problems with my Mum. She won't talk about it and asked me if I was doing the right thing by ttc again. I do have a very good friend who I can turn to,which is of some comfort. This thread has helped me too,and I'm rooting for each and every one of you. Thanks also for listening :)

I was going to suggest the same Belgina. If you've got any doubts at all then you will absolutely want to put your mind at rest by requesting another scan.

Good luck tomorrow Bella. Let us know how it goes.