Early scan, gestational sac and yolk sac but no fetus yet

[Coconutfeet]

This is my fifth pregnancy, I have one dc.

I'm 7+5 based on my lmp, although I chart and know that I ovulated around cd 18 which would make me 7+1, I think.

Because I have a history of miscarriage I had an early scan today. They saw a gestational sac and a yolk sac but no fetus yet. They are going to rescan me in 2 weeks. They've told me to try and relax and that everything is in line with a very early pregnancy. But although I know it's early, I'm in a complete state. I'm pretty sure with ds I had a scan at around 7+6 and we saw a heartbeat.

I know no-one can tell me how my pregnancy is going to go but I'd be interested to hear from anyone who had a similar experience and to know how it turned out - good or bad.

Coconutfeet, the fact you are feeling worse physically is a good thing,I have started to feel grotty in the morning too so am also taking that as a good sign.

I thought that all fetus' grew at the same stage so am relieved to read on here that your doctor said they don't.

Hopefully we will all be alright, I can't believe there are so many of us going through this at the same time. I have my second scan in a week so not long to wait.

Orangegloss - I am so sorry your doctor hasn't been more positive - I really really hope everything is ok for you.

Nell799 - this is all I am thinking about, I can't sleep and I keep breaking down and crying. It is hard but I am trying to think of all the positives.

Good luck everyone xx

Nell they normally do 2 tests which are 48 hours apart, and they said to me they would expect at least a 66% increase. I believe they can do a third test to double check. Definitely worth a mention.

I'm struggling to think about anything else, and my mood seems to vary wildly from one hour to the next

KTDace it really is suprising how many it happens to. I hope your week goes quickly

Orange - 10-20% chance must have been very difficult to hear. What are they basing that on? I'm quite surprised, given that things are so sketchy this early on, that they actually gave you a figure. Very good news about the bloods though. I really hope that means it's all good news for you.

I'm at work, and to be honest, I'm quite glad to be keeping busy. I think if I was at home I'd be dwelling on it all too much. Are you having to stay in bed or are you up and about?

For those of you that have your scans this week, will you let us know how it went ? Have my first mid wife appointment today , and I'm not really looking format to it anymore .

I had the same situation in Dec when I was 8 wks from LMP, said it looked to be 6 weeks. 10 days later had only 1mm growth so it wasn't good news. I spent the start of the waiting trying to work out how my dates could be 2 weeks out, counting over and over and constantly touching my boobs to see if they hurt. Sorry to post a negative story but given you're only 7 (not 8 as I was) it could still be just fine and a little too early. Good luck x

Hello everyone - I am in the same situation, can I join you?

Basically, I started spotting last week and went for a scan on Friday when I should have been 6+3. They couldn't find anything except a tiny black dot. I had HCG bloods taken and was scanned again yesterday as they have been concerned it could be ectopic. Bloods have gone up 78% and yesterday they could see a small sac. Was meant to be 6+6 yesterday! I know I ovulated later so there's some room for slippage but I am still cacking it. I have to go for a rescan next Monday (assuming the spotting doesn't get worse before then) and they expect to see a heartbeat by then. This wait is the worst in the world, isn't it? Usually work three days a week but my CM is off sick so I am at home with DS, trying to avoid Dr Google!

I do know that my DS also showed up later than he should have on an early scan but don't think he was this late.

Aaarrrrrgggghhhhhhh! Hope we all get some good news.

Am so incredibly glad to have found this thread. I has a light period over Xmas and 2 weeks later had a BFP (don't ask why I tested so early, it's not my normal behaviour). So I thought I must be 6 wks, as couldnt possibly test pos 2 wks after AF (think CD19), then had brown loss all last week. On mon I had a scan in EPAC and there was only a yolk sack visible + implantation bleed, which would put me at 5 weeks or so. 2 weeks out from my dates (either way). I'm also going back in 2 weeks for a rescan. This is my 4th pregnancy and I've never been wrong about the dates. It's all very confusing and a bit scary.
I knew straightaway something wasn't right, because I've had early scans with all my dcs and at 6 weeks there's always a heartbeat.
I also took another test yesterday and the line was fainter. Not sure if that means anything. I still feel slightly nauseous, and think it's getting worse, but part of me thinks it might just be me willing it on IYKWIM.

Coconutfeet I think that percentage was just an estimate, but still hard to hear. Glad work is keeping you occupied if even a bit

Nell I hope your appointment went ok today? It's hard to do things like that during such uncertainty isn't it?

Scooby sorry things didn't work out for you. I've terrified myself with googling, but for the sake if my sanity I've bookmarked a couple of positive outcomes

artifarti its awful waiting isn't it? Not long until Monday

belgina I hope your wait goes quickly, you never know things might be ok, but it's so difficult to think positive in this situation

According to my phone counter I have 5 days and 17 hours to go.

Gawd I could murder a drink

I hope I can please you with a positive story. WHen I went for my first early scan, I should have been 6+1, and was told that there was only a sac, it was measuring UNDER 4 weeks, and the pregnancy wasn't viable.

I went back for a further scan 2 weeks later, when I should have been 8+6, and was told that there was a sac and a fetal pole, but it was only measuring 6+2. I was told that the pregnancy wasn't viable, and that I should have a D&C. I just had a good feeling, and decided against a D&C, I figured that if I was going to mc, I'd wait for it to 'happen' IYSWIM.

As I hadn't mc'd, they took me in for a 12 week scan when (by my dates) I should have been 12+1...and baby was there, heart beating away, measuring 12+1. .

I have had an 18 week scan to check for anomolies from the slow growth, none were found. I had a 20 week scan and everything looked fine. I then had a private 3d san at 21 weeks, to find out the sex, and he's a boy.

I am currently 40+2 with a totally healthy baby that I was told for the first 12 weeks of my pregnancy wasn't a viable pregnancy!

HTH.

Blimey Loudlass, what a story! Thanks for sharing. Amazing that you were advised to have a D&C. I wonder if that happens a lot?

Congratulations on your pregnancy. At 40+2, I bet you're desperate for him to arrive. Hope it all goes well.

I meant to say, Artifarti, 78% is a good number isn't it (I don't know much about these things)?

Belgina - I know what you mean about wondering whether you're imagining the symptoms. I'm pretty sure mine are getting worse but every now and then wonder if I'm kidding myself. Also, presumably the pregnancy hormones are increasing even a non-viable pregnancy, so wouldn't they automatically get worse anyway?

Big congratulations Loudlass. And thanks for sharing a very positive story. Good luck with your (imminent!) birth.

If it makes anyone else feel a bit better, I looked up all DS's notes tonight and I was first scanned at 6+2 and there was just a sac, no yolk sac, no poles, no fetus, no heartbeat. Ten horrible days later and there he was! They never really changed my dates though and sure enough, my due date passed and DS was eventually prised out of me at 17 days late. I am hoping that I am just a slow starter when it comes to making babies...and that this one's even slower...

Headache from hell tonight but too scared to take anything. And, yes, wine would be nice too...

Cross-posted. Yes, apparently 78% is good. The sonographer told me that they look for 66% (over 48 hours) but that anything over 40% is okay. But she also said that she's seen women with lower ones have perfectly fine babies and women with higher ones have an ectopic.

Not simple, any of this, is it?

Loudlass: thanks so much for your story. It's nice to hear it doesn't allways end badly :)

coconutfeet I suppose you're right, but I think that usually symptoms decrease when a miscarriage is in the way. So I definitely think it's a positive thing :)

Loudlass that was exactly what I needed to hear this morning

And you artifarti I hope reading past notes gives you more confidence for this pg

I was thinking last night, I've developed bigger and sore boobs since my last scan so hope that's a good sign. I have to think positive or I'll be in a pit of despair, not good for me or anything I'm potentially growing

I was going to have an early scan, but decided against as may still not be conclusive. So we've decided to spend the scan money on some nice meals instead to cheer ourselves up

Loudlass , thanks for the positive story ! Gives is all hope .

I went for my scan because my pregnancy symptoms completely disappeared . I keep squeezing my boobs, but completely normal . The midwife did say though that from the shape of the sac , my body was still producing the hormones. But I do think my boobs have shrunk back . I am thirsty all the time though , although like you said coconut , I don't know whether its imagination .

Got given my next scan date on the nhs , its two weeks from today . I was expecting it sooner, so think I will book another private one in-between . Surely there will be some difference after ten days .

Nell that's a long time to wait, I have 5 days left of a 15 day wait :(

I seem to remember you measured 5 weeks? Same as me. I spoke to the midwife about being scanned earlier but she said it's to get the best possible chance of seeing something. I've gone backwards and forwards myself about whether to have an early scan, but have decided against it, as it still might not be conclusive.

Having said all that, everyone's different and you should of course do whatever will make you feel better - I just wanted to pass on what I've been told.

The wait really is unbearable isn't it?

How is everyone feeling today?

Oragegloss and artifarti. It's so true: can't even drink to drown our sorrows.

My symptoms seem to be milder again. AF would be due tomorrow. So I'll see what happens...

So-so, belgina - how about you? Like OrangeGloss I have decided to be positive or else I won't get through the week. Spent all weekend crying when I thought all was bad and can't do that all week. Had some cramps last night in bed and thought it was the start of something bad but today everything the same. The midwife didn't seem concerned by my spotting but it's hard not to feel nervous.

When does everyone have their scans? Me: next Monday. (Is that the same for you OG?)

oh no I'm bleeding lightly . And I had back ache . I'm meant to be doing a meeting at 1500.

Oh no nell any chance you can cancel/postpone your meeting? Get in touch with epau asap. That's what they told me to do if I started bleeding. I hope it stops :(

Artifarti, I'm not too bad. Not feeling as positive as yesterday. I think it's due to the diminishing symptoms and a heavy feeling low down in my abdomen. Not pain as such, it's hard to describe.

My scan isn't until mon the 31st :(. Aaaaaages away :(
I wouldn't have an earlier private scan though. I want this little bean to have as much chance as possible to grow...

Try not to panic too much, Nell. Bleeding is very common and not always sinister. But agree with belgina - is there an Early Pregnancy Unit near you? You may be able to self-refer or get a referral through A&E.

belgina - this early on, symptoms can come and go on a daily basis. And a heavy feeling could be ligaments stretching. Try and keep your chin up, hard I know.

Nell I hope you're ok? I agree, you should contact the EPU if you're bleeding

I had some bleeding which is why I had the early scan, the dr said don't worry too much as some women will bleed lots and be fine, and others will have nothing and be bad news

My scan's on 24th. It still seems so far away, I really hope it's conclusive

Good to hear symptoms come and go, my boobs were sore, but have eased the last couple if days. Not had much nausea either :(

Nell, How are you? I hope you've been seen by someone. In one of my previous pregnancies I was bleeding and I went via A&E who referred me to the EPU and I was seen very quickly. They told me that bleeding in early pregnancy is very common.

Unfortunately in my case it wasn't good news, but I know several people who have bled quite heavily and carried on to have a healthy pregnancy, so it doesn't necessarily mean bad news. of course you'll just want to know one way or the other though.

Let us know how you are when you get the chance.

And Artifarti - hopefully re-reading your notes has given you a bit of reassurance.