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Early scan, gestational sac and yolk sac but no fetus yet

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Coconutfeet · 14/01/2011 12:24

This is my fifth pregnancy, I have one dc.

I'm 7+5 based on my lmp, although I chart and know that I ovulated around cd 18 which would make me 7+1, I think.

Because I have a history of miscarriage I had an early scan today. They saw a gestational sac and a yolk sac but no fetus yet. They are going to rescan me in 2 weeks. They've told me to try and relax and that everything is in line with a very early pregnancy. But although I know it's early, I'm in a complete state. I'm pretty sure with ds I had a scan at around 7+6 and we saw a heartbeat.

I know no-one can tell me how my pregnancy is going to go but I'd be interested to hear from anyone who had a similar experience and to know how it turned out - good or bad.

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artifarti · 28/01/2011 19:47

Sorry to hear that belgina. Relax and look after yourself. Hope it calms down again. x

OrangeGloss · 29/01/2011 08:08

Coconutfeet I am so so sorry to hear that, I hope you are as comfortable as can be expected

Belgina sorry you're having more bleeding, my epau scanned me on Sunday but I had to be referred by a dr on Saturday. Might they do the same for you? I know it's hard to think positive, but you can bleed and it be ok (((hugs)))

jelly sorry for your loss, I have heard that the 3 mc rule for testing doesn't apply over 35, so it would be worth looking into

artifarti I hope you're doing ok in the circumstances, there is no reason for the same thing to happen next time. Little reassurance I know, I was already so paranoid after mc

Sorry if I missed anyone, not very good at catching up, but hope you're all doing ok or as best you can be x

laylasmummy09 · 29/01/2011 10:19

sorry coconutfeet and artifarti sending you hugs, bad news for me too, im deffinitely miscarrying but cant have erpc or anything until the doctors are sure its not ectopic so i have to go back sunday for hormone check, they want me to consider a methotrexate injection wich will dizzolve it wherever it is but i have seen no evidence that its ectopic so im just going to ask for erpc now i just want it over with x

artifarti · 29/01/2011 10:23

I'm sorry, laylasmummy, hugs to you too. I really hope it's not ectopic and that you are resting up and being looked after.

OrangeGloss - glad that all is good with you and your little one. I feel okay today, thanks, but aware that a big hormone crash could be just around the corner!

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Coconutfeet · 29/01/2011 14:52

Sorry to hear your news Laylasmummy.Sad I know what you mean about wanting it all over with. When are you going back to the hospital?

Artifarti - How are you feeling? I had to stay overnight in the hospital, as they did the ERPC quite late in the day and there was no doctor around to discharge me. I only got home at lunchtime today. I'm really glad to be back to normality. The op itself was really straightforward and I was so glad to wake up this morning and not have morning sickness. I'd been dreading that. Physically I feel OK, just tired and a bit achy. Quite weepy though. Have you got to have a follow up appointment at all?

Belgina - How are you today?

Jellytart - Sorry to hear about your loss. What are the next steps for you? Are you going to have a natural mc or opt for the ERPC? I'm 43 and obviously have the same worries about old eggs etc. This was my 4th mc and they have referred me to the recurrant miscarriage clinic. They said this may take a while so I think I'm going to try and find out whether I can get the ball rolling and ask my GP to order some tests, as I don't feel like I can wait too long before TTC again, even though the idea of going through all this again fills me with dread. I'm going to ask on the MC thread about tests that I should be asking for. If I get any good answers, I'll link them here for you.

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belgina · 29/01/2011 15:32

laylasmummy so sorry it's bad news for you again. I hope that you get your ERPC soon. I hope your instinct is right and that it isn't ectopic.

coconutfeet you must be very glad to be back at home. I hate sleeping in hospitals, so to me it sounds a bit like a nightmare. Glad you're feeling physically ok. Good idea about going to your GP to see if there's anything you can do.

orangegloss glad to hear from you and glad to hear everything is still ok.

artiffarti how are things with you?

I'm ok. The bleeding has turned into dark old blood type loss again. Not all that much, a pantyliner is enough IYKWIM. Most of it is on wiping. Some small clots again too, only a couple of mm in size. I really just want to wait until Monday. It's only a day really as my appointment is at 9. Fingers crossed I'm having one of those pregnancies with lots of bleeds and a healthy baby. I did bleed a fair few times with dd1, but all the bleeds were in the 2nd trimester and I could feel her move about, so it was very different.

jellytart · 29/01/2011 15:44

Hi Coconut,when I had my scan,the sonographer said that I had completely miscarried,so no need for a d&c. I'm definitely going to get hold of my gp on Monday. I feel encouraged by everyone's comments,and yes,it would be helpful to hear from you if you get any answers. Thankyou. I hope everyone manages to get through the weekend. Thinking of you all xx

artifarti · 29/01/2011 15:47

Coconutfeet - glad you are back at home now and sorry you have had to go through this so many times. I feel very tired today but guess that is the GA. No cramping and hardly any bleeding. I felt a bit weepy earlier when my friend send me a lovely text (she had a mc last year but is now 6 months pg) but otherwise feel quite normal. That makes me a bit nervous as I don't know if I'm suddenly going to lose the plot. I want to just forget about the whole thing and get on with life and ttc again but also worry that that I should be 'dealing with it' more.

No follow up appointment unless I suspect things aren't going okay. Do you have to go back?

belgina - I have everything crossed for you for Monday.

How is everyone else? Bella, hope you are coping with the wait as well as you can. jellytart - are you going back into hospital?

artifarti · 29/01/2011 15:47

jellytart - cross-posted! Thinking of you too.

laylasmummy09 · 29/01/2011 18:58

thanks coconutfeet i have got to go back tomorrow morning for the blood test but proberbly wont get the result back til monday, the hospital have been really good and have kept my bed open for me just incase my symptoms worsen and i want to go back, i know what you mean about being weepy i was crying at supernanny earlier, thinking of you all x

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Coconutfeet · 30/01/2011 09:07

Artifarti - No, I've got no follow up either. I was a bit surprised but I think I was comparing it to a natural mc when they scan you to make sure that everything's come away. I feel like I've been beaten up today - my stomach muscles really hurt, but it's muscular rather than internal and I'm not really bleeding at all. I'm taking a few days off work though, just to get my head together. I've been in touch with my headteacher (who knows a bit about my history) and she's been brilliant.

Laylasmummy - It's great that the hospital are being so good. Will the blood tests definitely confirm if it's ectopic? (Ignorant, sorry). I really hope it's not and that you can have the ERPC and get it all over with.

Jelly - Sorry, I hadn't realised that you'd already miscarried.

Belgina - I'm sure you're feeling anxious about tomorrow. Do come back and let us know how you get on. Surely we're due some more GOOD NEWS on this thread?!

Orangegloss - How are you doing?

Waves to everyone else!

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belgina · 30/01/2011 16:15

Hi everyone,

How is everyone doing? I hope that by now all physical side effects of what you've all been through have eased.

Coconutfeet I think extremely high levels of, I think hcg are a sign it might be ectopic.

I've had a tiny bit more red loss, but mostly brown. Part of me thinks that tomorrow's scan will be good news, I think that must be that eternally optimistic part of me. Another part of me thinks that with all the bleeding i've had, the chances that everything will be ok are very very small. I hope the optimistic side of me wins :o

jellytart · 30/01/2011 16:23

Hey belgina,will be thinking of you tomorrow :o

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Coconutfeet · 30/01/2011 16:52

I'm really hoping your optimistic side is right Belgina. Everything is crossed for you here.

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laylasmummy09 · 30/01/2011 17:47

hi ladies, just wanted to let you know i mc naturally this morning so didnt have bloods done also scan showed it was complete and all normal so no need for methotrexate or ERPC thankfully, now i can move on, thinking of you all. Good luck for tomorrow belgina X

artifarti · 30/01/2011 18:29

laylasmummy - so sorry you have had to go through this but very glad it wasn't an ectopic and that the worst of the physical part is over for you. Take care of yourself.

belgina - every bit of good luck for you tomorrow.

hello to everyone else - hope you are all okay as you can be. x

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Coconutfeet · 30/01/2011 18:51

So sorry to hear that Laylasmummy. Glad it wasn't ectopic but awful just the same. Sad

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artifarti · 30/01/2011 18:58

How are you today Coconutfeet? I was very sad earlier but had some friends round - one of whom had a mc last year and is now 6 months pregnant. It was actually really nice to be able to talk to someone who has 'been there, done that' and also to start seeing people again - a step back to normality. Are you okay?

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Coconutfeet · 30/01/2011 19:09

Artifarti - It's really good to be able to open and honest with someone in RL isn't it. The more talking you can do the better I think. I'm OK today - I think. Given my history, I'd tried really hard not to engage too much with this pregnancy. For example, I got my Maternity Exemption certificate through the post last week and because I knew what it would be I made a point of not opening the envelope so I didn't have to see it, just in case. I didn't write the date of my midwife appointment on the calendar either. I'm upset of course, but there was a certain inevitability about it all for me which I think has protected me a bit, if that makes sense. Having said that, I expect I'll be up and down for a while. I've found having ds to take my mind off things really helpful. I feel so lucky to have him.

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artifarti · 30/01/2011 19:33

Glad you're okay - and yes, I have a DS too who is taking my mind off everything and making me realise how blessed I am. I had a shredding session on Saturday - all the scan reports, midwife appointments, information about not eating pate etc. and it was sad but strangely cathartic. I have a 9 month pregnant friend coming to visit tomorrow! I wondered if seeing pg people would upset me but I actually don't mind - but if someone announced their pg now I think I would lose the plot. Strange these distinctions we make in our heads! I saw your other thread and hope you get some good replies soon. x

belgina · 30/01/2011 20:03

Thanks artifarti laylasmummy and coconutfeet

coconutfeet I understand what you mean re the cushioning and protecting yourself. I've purposely held off making my 1st mw appt just so I wouldn't have to cancel it if tomorrow's scan is bad news. In fact this whole pregnancy has been so weird, the timing of my BFP, the speed of conception after I had my coil removed etc... That somehow it has never seemed real. Maybe that'll help me if tomorrow does bring bad news...

artifarti glad to hear you're doing ok and that you're already start to move on.

laylasmummy sad news that you miscarried, but great news that you haven't got to go through any more tests and procedures. Hope you're ok :)

jellytart · 31/01/2011 08:01

Morning. How is everyone? Had a slight wobble yesterday. I took myself off facebook. Loads of people announcing their pregnancies or imminent births. Just can't handle it at the moment. Does that make me sad? Blush On a more positive note,will be ringing the dr's as soon as they open this morning. Need something to focus on.

artifarti · 31/01/2011 08:11

Morning jelly. Hope you are feeling a bit better today and good luck with your gp. I know what you mean about something to focus on - I have decided to obsess about healthy eating and spent yesterday scouring the shops for decaff green tea like it was the magic answer to everything!

Re Facebook, no it doesn't make you sad. I have been avoiding it too. You have to find whatever helps you cope. Let us know how you get on with your doctor.

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Coconutfeet · 31/01/2011 08:42

I'm exactly the same! I've definitely been looking for a focus too. I've ordered the Lesley Reagan book on Miscarriage from Amazon yesterday and am going to really try and get healthy too. I put on a fair bit of weight recently as I sprained my ankle really badly before Christmas and haven't been able to excercise at all. It's finally on the mend so now seems like a good time to get healthy. So much for my day of rest today. DS vomited all over himself, me and our bed last night and again this morning so I've had to keep him off nursery.

Jelly - Those wobbles will come and go. I found that they sometimes took me by surprise too, which was a bit embarrassing. It's completely normal.

Belgina - Thinking about you. Let us know how it goes. xx

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belgina · 31/01/2011 11:41

Hi everyone.

Bad news here too. No blighted ovum, just no growth at all in these 2 weeks. Not even slow growth. The implantation bleed is bigger than the gestational sack. They've booked me in for a rescan in 2 weeks, while I make up my mind as to which course to pregnancy take. I really don't know and will need to talk about it. In a way I want to get it over with, but on the other hand I'm scared of a GA and all my little bleeds are a sign that things might be starting to happen naturally anyway.
My mum phoned while I was out. I don't really feel like pregnancy I can call her back for now, as I don't want her to know we're TTC, because she doesnt think we should have a dc4. But at the same time I really want to talk throughy options with her...