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Wow; it's only circumcision..

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Chloejp91 · 29/12/2010 22:11

Before I get killed, I'm not suggesting it is only circumsion, that's just the title of this thread.

I'm due in less than 4 weeks and I'm having a boy. I'm definitely going to circumcise him. It's part of my culture and my partner's culture so it's going to be done. I just feel sad that it's seen as such a bad thing, where there are some benefits to it.

Anyone circumsised/circumsizing their sons?

OP posts:
MrsCratchit · 29/12/2010 23:27

Except for the fact ear piercings can heal, if your adult child chooses not to wear earrings...

sum04 · 29/12/2010 23:27

Im not sure...

sum04 · 29/12/2010 23:28

I really dont think my son will grow up and hate me for having him circumcised.

ILoveItWhenYouCallMeBoo · 29/12/2010 23:29

he might hate you for not giving him the choice though.

pooka · 29/12/2010 23:29

Having a foreskin is the default position baby boys are born in.

The choice is to remove it. Not to leave it intact as it was designed/evolved to be.

And it's so depressing - done because everyone else in the family was done. Why couldn't you see it as giving your ds the lucky break of being left alone?

ShowOfHands · 29/12/2010 23:29

There still isn't a single good argument for circumcision on here. Or one that can't be directly countered with common sense.

I don't think 'it's a personal decision, just don't judge' is much of a defence. Otherwise we could run around doing what we want. We're already excusing inflicting barbaric pain on a defenceless newborn. Where else might we draw the line?

And looking like his father? Pshaw. They're individuals, not carbon copies.

GColdtimer · 29/12/2010 23:30

And why on earth would I want to mutilate my baby by putting holes in her ears?

ILoveItWhenYouCallMeBoo · 29/12/2010 23:30

and anyway, it's not the fact that he might hate you that i have a problem with. it is teh fact you willingly caused him unbearable pain for no apparent reason other than "it's what all the other men have"

sum04 · 29/12/2010 23:31

I dont think anyone on her ever stated having it done to there son for fashion!!!

kormachameleon · 29/12/2010 23:31

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ILoveItWhenYouCallMeBoo · 29/12/2010 23:32

well what do you call having it done because everyone else has it done if it isn't a fashion???

GColdtimer · 29/12/2010 23:32

Sorry very slow Internet connection. Agree with last few posts. I find the sheep mentality of "oh it's our culture" rather depressing.

sum04 · 29/12/2010 23:35

He had pain relief and didnt feel the pain.
You really need to watch the way you speak about me.
Having my son circumcised doesn't make me a bad parent.
I love all my kids to death and there is nothing wrong in what i decided as a parent.
You are welcome to your opinion, but there is no need to start with name calling, just because you don't agree on something. And thats suppose to make you the better person is it???

BertieBottlesOfMulledWine · 29/12/2010 23:36

I honestly could not imagine giving birth to a perfect baby boy, and hours later, handing him over to a doctor in the knowledge that they were about to cause him immense pain. I don't care what the benefits are (and TBH they all sound pretty crap to me as a trade off).

FFS I cried when they did the newborn heel prick test! Surely it's human nature to want to prevent suffering in your child, especially your BRAND NEW HOURS OLD BABY.

The thought of this seriously makes me feel sick. (Circumstraint. Have you heard the name of this thing? Circum-fucking-straint. It beggars belief.)

It's pretty much on a level with if I found out there was a culture which removed toenails at birth (without anaesthetic). For those who do find it culturally normal, (and I'm sorry my post has been so strongly worded, it's just how angry the whole thing makes me), what would you think if you heard this practice existed in a so-called advanced nation? Toenails are pretty much useless. They look ugly. They require cutting. They can become ingrown and infected. Would you forcibly remove them from a helpless newborn?

BertieBottlesOfMulledWine · 29/12/2010 23:39

House, because general anaesthetic is the only anaesthetic strong enough to numb the pain completely, and it's very risky for babies.

The other options are a topical cream (pretty much pointless) or an injected local anaesthetic - if you've ever had one of these you'll know that's painful enough.

But from what I have heard anaesthetic isn't used because a baby is small enough to restrain completely so they don't need to use it.

And excuse me while I go and vomit.

pooka · 29/12/2010 23:39

And I take it your dh would have willingly had the same level of pain relief for the same op if had been done as an adult?

Because if you think that is the case then you're buying into the discredited theory that babies don't feel pain like adults. Which is crap - they just cannot struggle or express pain to the same extent.

ILoveItWhenYouCallMeBoo · 29/12/2010 23:41

i beg your pardon. i need to watch the way i speak about you??? what am i saying that i shouldn't be? i didn't do any name calling. if you can find the post where i did i will apologise.

you said he cried but if he had pain relief he wouldn't have felt it.

and yes, i think the fact that i didn't cut off a perfectly healthy part of my child's anatomy, causing excruciating pain, makes me a better parent. there i said it. and that is my opinion.

KickArseQueen · 29/12/2010 23:42

Right, hello there!

I'm sorry, but I always show up on these threads if I spot them to paste this link.
The 1st time I watched this I felt sick and had a lot of trouble sleeping. You have been warned.!!!!!
here it is

This is what you are talking about. You can talk about nipping of a bit of excess skin all you like, but this is the reality.

If you can watch that video with the sound on and then say "yes I'm happy for that to be done to my son" then there is IMVHO something wrong with you.

It is unnecessary. It is barbaric and yes there is a high chance that your child will live to regret the choice you made.

HouseOfBambooootiful · 29/12/2010 23:42

Sorry but I don't think Calpol can possibly qualify as adequate anaesthetic for a surgical procedure.

Surely there must be something better (apart from not doing it at all, of course)?

HouseOfBambooootiful · 29/12/2010 23:43

x post with Bertie

KickArseQueen · 29/12/2010 23:44

Do you dare to watch it OP???

Do you???

sum04 · 29/12/2010 23:44

Exactly that is your opinion and your decision for your child.
Neither decision makes either of us a bad parent, but theres no need to call me a moron for what i choose for my son.

kormachameleon · 29/12/2010 23:44

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GColdtimer · 29/12/2010 23:44

Of course he felt immense pain. He just couldn't express it. Would you go through having part of you removed with just a couple of paracetomol? No. So why oh why do it to your baby? Another poster on here talked about the grandfather holding down the babies legs. I had to do this when dd was in scbu and it was hard enough to stomach when the procedure was to save her fromserious illness.

RockinRobinBird · 29/12/2010 23:46

Korma you speak much sense. The excuses some people will make for cutting off bits of their babies while being too pathetic to be in the room with them is sickening. But the big men say it must be done so the women merrily hand over their newborns to a man with a scalpel.

Parental task number one: protect your child from all harm. Er, that's a fail there then...

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