Active discussions

Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Talk
Pregnancy

Talk about every stage of pregnancy, from early symptoms to preparing for birth.

Original poster

Wow; it's only circumcision..

781 replies

Chloejp91 · 29/12/2010 22:11

Before I get killed, I'm not suggesting it is only circumsion, that's just the title of this thread.

I'm due in less than 4 weeks and I'm having a boy. I'm definitely going to circumcise him. It's part of my culture and my partner's culture so it's going to be done. I just feel sad that it's seen as such a bad thing, where there are some benefits to it.

Anyone circumsised/circumsizing their sons?

OP posts:
ILoveItWhenYouCallMeBoo · 30/12/2010 00:04

sum why will you be choosing to do it? if it isn't for the sake of fitting in, then what is it for?

sum04 · 30/12/2010 00:06

I came on here to put my point across and to support what i choose for my son.
I think the way alot of you are reacting is over the top.
That said, if it wasn't a normal thing in my eyes, due to being brought up that way, then i would also feel strongly against it, just like i feel strongly against other things parents decide for there children.
Each to there own, you shouldnt be judged as a person for what you decide for your kids.

MrsCratchit · 30/12/2010 00:07

I apologise, you didn't leave, sum.

DH has also pointed out my error in calling it a 'debate', given that would require a valid argument on both sides and the lemmings culture thing just doesn't cut it.

controlfreakyhohohohohohoho · 30/12/2010 00:09

are you there op?? were you able to view the links? Hmm

ILoveItWhenYouCallMeBoo · 30/12/2010 00:09

"if it wasn't a normal thing in my eyes, due to being brought up that way, then i would also feel strongly against it"

so you accept that the only reason you do it is because other people tell you (by having it done and doing it themselves) taht it is what you should do?

ILoveItWhenYouCallMeBoo · 30/12/2010 00:10

in other words you are saying you don't really have a valid reason for doing it except that it has always been done.

controlfreakyhohohohohohoho · 30/12/2010 00:10

sum, my dh is circumcised, our dss aren't. it is possible to make choices independently of your "culture" you know.

KickArseQueen · 30/12/2010 00:10

Did you have the sound on sum04?

If that was the hood of your clitoris ( similar number of nerve endings) and you were strapped down while someone did that to you without anasthetic I think your opinion would be changed.

"Wow, its only circumsicion"

There is never and will never be "only" about it.

Language uses words to cover up the descriptive horror that would otherwise be needed. Angry and Sad for your child.

Twofalls:

Thankfully no!

"NHS availability
The NHS does not fund routine circumcision or circumcision that is carried out for religious reasons.

The NHS only funds circumcision that is used treat a small number of medical conditions (see below). In such cases, circumcision is usually regarded as a ?treatment of last resort? when all other treatment options have failed.

The health conditions where circumcision may be considered include:

?paraphimosis ? a condition where the foreskin gets trapped under the tip of the penis
?balanoposthitis ? an infection of the foreskin
?balanitis xerotica obliterans ? inflammation of the tip of the penis"

sum04 · 30/12/2010 00:11

Whatever the case, at the end of the day i made the final decision what i wanted for my son and i would choose for it again.
Goodnight.

ShowOfHands · 30/12/2010 00:11

"you shouldnt be judged as a person for what you decide for your kids"

Oh yes you should.

WanderingInAWinterWonderland · 30/12/2010 00:12

OP, if it's so beneficial and part of your "culture" then why can't you wait until your DS is old enough to make up his own mind about having it done? If it's part of his culture and he will benefit from it then I'm sure he'll be all for it! Hmm

What a load of bollocks (excuse the pun) surely if you weren't supposed to have foreskin then it wouldn't be there!

And why the hell is this in pregnancy?

BabyDubsEverywhere · 30/12/2010 00:12

My son is circumsised as he was born with hyperspadia. (sp) He was done days before his 2nd birthday and it was so traumatic for me Dh and obviously especially my poor DS.

First the whole hospital thing for a child not used to it was a worry for him, the gas to get him to sleep was horrendous - i was holding/restraining him whilst he was being gassed and i felt like i was smothering him it was awful.

When he woke after the op he was terrified took hours for him to come around properly, then he was on really strong painkillers for a week, but was still in pain from the moment he came round for about a week.

I was heart broken for him, everytime he needed a wee he cried, and then after he screamed. He turned three in September and still wont let anyone touch him in tht area, even around it. i truely worry he's going to be (mentally) scarred for life.

My poor baby.

And this is the humane way to do it, with medical professionals and being put to sleep and the area numbed, and a mega amount of painkillers.

How could anyone do this to a child without absolute medical reasons needs? you need locking up, you have put your paranoid delusion of whats right ahead of your childs welbeing how can you inflict such pain on your child - i couldnt do that to my worst enemy let alone my baby by choice! - what is wrong with you people. Do you tattoo them too and stick piercings all over them, well why not i spose its all the same isnt it, you are mutilating your sons for your own pleasure and thats so twisted.

my DS had the ring block. He was in agony, and thats the best method for pain relief. As he was older (2yrs) the doctors said he would be able to show the pain, whereas babies tend not to. Doesnt mean they arent feeling it though.

I find this so emotive after seeing what my DS went through, would you cut a toe off 'just because' i doubt it, but then again the mentality that will allow you to mutilate your own child i wouldnt put it past you. Its sick, and how its legal is a fucking travesty.

How about you chop a few parts off yourself before you go ahead and sever parts of your child? One thing that worries me, if you are prepared to admit to mutilating your child, and have public ceremonies for their pain, what the fudk is going on behind closed doors - I pity your children.

ILoveItWhenYouCallMeBoo · 30/12/2010 00:13

why can't you give us the reasons why you chose it and why you will choose it again after seeing taht video?

HouseOfBambooootiful · 30/12/2010 00:16

There is some interesting info and stats here:

Net Doctor

A lot of the 'benefits' which the OP listed earlier don't seem to fit with this info.

It also confirms that it is an extremely painful procedure as the foreskin is so rich in nerve endings.

KickArseQueen · 30/12/2010 00:17

News break for you there sum04.

You will be judged for every single descision that you make as a parent. People judge all the time. You judge too.

Most things that people do to their children, are minor and not very far reaching.

You are talking about mutilating your son.

You don't have too.

You just want to.

That is really worrying.

If this was anything other than a "religous" / "traditional" mutilation you would be put in prison.

pooka · 30/12/2010 00:19

The op actually has disappeared after her laughable list of benefits to circumcision.

Sum is not the op.

BeerTricksPotter · 30/12/2010 00:19

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

MrsCratchit · 30/12/2010 00:20

BabyDubs. Your poor little boy. Sad

I can't bring myself to watch the videos. Especially after reading that post. How anyone can read that and then think it's okay to OPT to inflict the procedure on their child is beyond me.

I also agree with SoH, people absolutely should be judged on what ther choose for their children if it causes, or has the potential to cause, physical, mental or emotional harm. This is not like judging a mother for giving a child a sugary drink once in a blue moon...

Snorbs · 30/12/2010 00:37

I wonder if it would be worth asking MN if it would consider starting a "Say NO to unnecessary child circumcision" campaign?

I know it's unlikely to get anywhere but threads like this, where people are blithely advocating slicing bits of their child's genitalia off for no good reason depress the fuck out of me Sad

Original poster
Chloejp91 · 30/12/2010 00:43

pooka actually I fell asleep watching Mary Poppins on iplayer and forgot to switch back to this tab. So I haven't disappeared after my 'laughable' list of benefits.. I just forgot to check back.
There's too much to reply back to but I have read all the comments and I didn't mean it to start something like this, which in itself is a stupid thing to say as circumcision isn't a light topic but I just wanted to know if other mums are considering it or had it done.

The culture thing, I understand people's attitude towards seeing it as a bit of an exhausted excuse but it is what it is. I don't expect anyone to understand everyones culture and values or even accept and like them, I was just emphasising the fact that I am indeed doing it for that specific reason.

Another thing is in future I shall choose to reword my topic title so I don't step on people's toes or offend people. That was not my intention.. I should've put it is as a quotation? Although I doubt that would make it any less offensive?

Again to emphasise the fact that I haven't disappeared or anything; I'm very much still here. I stand by my views and I certainly do not run away from them when the going gets tough.

Many thanks.

OP posts:
ILoveItWhenYouCallMeBoo · 30/12/2010 00:43

we could always ask snorbs but i doubt it is something MNHQ are willing to get into because of the strong religious and cultural connections.

BeerTricksPotter · 30/12/2010 00:44

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

ILoveItWhenYouCallMeBoo · 30/12/2010 00:44

chloe

can you explain what your culture's reason for circumcision are please?

and if it wasn't part of your culture, would you still be doing it?

GenevieveHawkings · 30/12/2010 00:45

Dead right people should be "slaughtered" for advocating this unnecessary abusive barbarism.

FFS you can't even dock a dog's tail in this country without getting into trouble with the law yet people can blithely mutilate a baby's genitals and ritually abuse children with impunity on the grounds that it's "part of their culture".

Culture my arse if it involves abusing children.

If I wasn't a Jew or a Muslim and I said I was chopping off a part of my child's penis in some grim and barbarous medevial-type ceremony because I believed it was a jolly good idea I'd be banged up quicker than you could say "penis" and rightly so.

This is the 21st century in a so-called civilised society FFS. Isn't it high time this vile, abusive, unnecessary ritual abuse was outlawed?

I'm sure a lot of people agree but the PC brigade would never dare broach the subject.

KickArseQueen · 30/12/2010 00:46

I don't think they would do it Snorbs.

They would run the risk of being perceived as "anti" certain religions.

It would permeate all the boards with posters saying they don't feel comfortable here any more.

It depresses the living fucking shit out of me too. Every time I post that video clip I have to watch the bloody thing to make sure its the right one. Sad

But far more sad that anyone could condone doing this to a child.........