May 2010: All the babies have arrived, welcome to the other side!

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Here we are ladies, a new Postnatal thread! I wonder if we'll fill this one up as fast with one-handed typing?!

quick post, pamelat, yes, i thought it was just me
oscar doesn't roll yet, but he is huge...imo
milling, happy birthday, i think i did on the day on fb, not sure???

ivf must be horrible, just trying and waiting is terrible, but that... indeed we are lucky, remind me of that when i moan, please

pamelat - how devestating for your friend. I can't imagine the emotional strain, let alone the physical. She is very brave and I'm sure you're being a brill friend to her

millington - happy belated birthday!

homebirth - My thoughts are with you. Sounds like you had a lucky escape from exH. And I'm soo up for being your mate, always up for a girly giggle!

rachel - how exciting! Chloe is nearly rolling, she gets half way then flops back with frustration! She is 10.5 weeks.

Chloe laughed today! A full blown long chuckle. Aww it's amazing! Now she won't stop she seems to find everything hilarious :)

Got my op next Friday, 11 sleeps. I'm really scared but consultant has promised to make me "just like pre-birth" and her secretary said the procedure only takes around 15minutes. It's the general anaesthetic I'm scared about. I've had 4 in the past but not something you can ever get really use to.

first, you'll be fine, will be thinking of you

we just got a playmat to put oscar on his front more often, he only stays for a few minutes, less than 10 and then screams until rescued, any advise?

it is amazing when they laugh, oscar thinks his daddy is hilarious, daddy is a bit 'he is laughing at me', but guess daddy is for games, as he isn't home as much, and bath time

home, never be ashamed you run away from an abuser, be proud of yourself, uh, here is an idea, please tell me to sod off if i'm out of line, what about be a peer supporter for woman suffering abuse?

poo: i am proud to announce that green poo is normal, and we can take it as a sign that oscar is really getting plenty of breast milk, mostly from the breast,(i can't find time to express) and that is the reason, breast feeding mums in my baby group have assured me that it is all good, and there are more nappy surprises to be found as feeding are progressing and we are ditching the formula, fingers crossed everyone...

Well after the longest drive in the world EVER, I'm back home and recovered enough to type! Sorry if I miss anything though - much to catch up on!

Had a lovely holiday, Darcey coped really well with the heat and all the driving. She started babbling and cooing while we were away. I think it was that she had 6 adults to compete with, so we got lots of shouty ahs, wers and awas! Was extremely cute. Gone quiet today, but she's got a bit of a cold and there's only boring old mommy to play with...

WLTK - Darcey only stays on her front for about a minute before she wants rescuing. A bit better when she's propped up slightly on a pillow, but she doesn't like being on her front much at all. She seems to be managing her head alright though, I'm just worried she won't exercise her arms as much!

Rachel - that is exciting! Darcey twists her hips and pushes on her feet but hasn't managed an actual roll yet!

Pigley - DH started out his photography 'business' like that. Friends liked some of his photos, so he started offering to do weddings/portraits at home etc. Now he gets requests from friends-of-friends and sometimes strangers. It earns us some nice pocket money, but I know he'd love to be able to give up work and do it full time.

Re green poos - we use washable nappies, and I find that when we rinse the dirty ones that have been off for a couple of hours (after a change while out for example, not just from leaving them lying around ) the bits in the poo go green. Sorry if TMI. I suppose that's fairly normal. Sometimes I worry that I don't worry enough!

Cupcake - my lifesavers were green & blacks dark choc and nice orange juice with bits in. To help my iron levels obviously...

Pamela - I think I'm more smelly now too. I thought it was BO but you're right, it's not the same as that. Glad it's not just me, I thought I was set for a life of stinkiness!

Newmomma and Angel - thinking of you. And first1, hope everything is going ok.

Can't believe we've nearly filled this thread already!

oops, sorry, that turned into a mammoth post. Don't worry if you can't be bothered to read it all!

dancing glad you enjoyed the hols!
oscar tries to lift his butt, but not much more, we have toys hanging close so he has to reach out for them, we like to worry too must be a mum thing

i also use wash nappyes, they're fab!!!, sadly dh won't let me take them on hols so gotta buy some, but i don't like any in particular, perhaps boots own...

feeding going well, some times goes to sleep after a feed without formula top up at all....but sometimes takes a whole bottle after a good feed, bf gp(they put me one) says is ok, as far as he gets the breast first, sometimes extra hungry, he'll get used too...

Had some green poo here too, but only the odd one.

Can anyone answer the condrum of why the poo always shoots up the back of the nappy and all over the vest when you are out of the house and never when you are in the house?

At 11 weeks Sam appears to be teething!! How is this possible. Sticking everything he can get in his mouth, mainly favouring his had or chewing on my hand. Not in a dummy suck way. Drooling tons. Seems def to be in bit of discomfort and had mega cry today that was eventually solved with some teething gel and calpol (first time I've given it). No experience of this at all as this is first baby.

Does this sound like teething? and at 11 weeks? Really?

He also has a weird bit on his bottom gum, but over at the lefthand side not at the front where I would have thought first teeth would come. Looks like wee bit of gum sticking up. Is this the culprit or something else?

Hey all, just been catching up with you all :)

Sassles - its me thats up in Inverness :) Sorry, first time mum too so no experience of teething, some of the other pro]s will help though i'm sure...:)

WLTK - i'm sooo happy your cracking BFing!! I would love to exclusively BF but Rian always seems to want a bottle after. Had such a busy time with visitors, next week i'll be visitor free and gonna try feeding him breast only and see what happens.

Millington - Happy belated birthday!!, my birthday was a few weeks ago and i was livid. DP didn't even get me a happy birthday mummy card. Was really upset and when i brought it up he said 'are you joking' i went to alot of trouble for fathers day for him and thought he would know how much it meant to me. Hopefully he'l know for next time

Homebirth - so sorry your feeling down. i hope things felt a little better in the morning. Do you have baby groups you could go to? Could be a start to a long, giggly friendship? A work colleague of mine i hardly spoke to had a baby same time as me and now we meet weekly which is great.

First - congrats on new job!! Try not to worry re op (easier said than done i know)

I've been feeling really rough last couple of days with a head cold, DP had to take day off work to help with Rian as i couldn't face it although i did end up helping him alot - anyone else find their way is better?!! Control freak in me!!

Hope Rian doesn't get the cold from me, he has jabs on thurs and neurosurgeon meeting on fri

Anyone else panicking about childcare? no family near by and planning to return to work in Feb - childminder vs nursery? Also finances panicking me a bit too as i'll be going back part time.

DP sister is 16 weeks pregnant, find myself quite jealous of her !!!

Hi all

sassles I remember DD's HV telling me that babies go through "false teething" around 3 mths. It's thought the teeth start to move around under the gums at this time. Most don't actually start to cut their teeth til around 6 mths but the movement definitely causes symptoms you describe & some pain.

hbm4 thinking of you. We're moving house before the end of the year, out of the city, and I'm already fretting about starting friendships again. I do find having children really does get me chatting to strangers but it's hard to move past the pleasantries to actually swapping numbers and meeting up with people. Try to get involved with as many mum & baby groups as you can, you might not think there's a lot of point with Virginia so tiny but it's as much for mummies as it is for little ones.

first hope you're feeling ok about op. Never had to experience a general myself but can understand your worry.

Thanks all for my bd wishes, hope you don't think I was fishing around for them :) Picked up my mum's card today from post office ... there was excess postage to pay! [rolling eyes emoticon] MIL coming to babysit on Wed so DH & I can go out to dinner to celebrate. Hope she's not going to be odd with me?!

Evening all just having a quick snack and catch up before I head off to bed, Jacob a bit grumpy today, I do think he would be a lot easier if he were a first baby in that during the day I would have time to feed him lying down then settle him in his cot as I do at night-time but the poor wee soul has to make do with his swing or moses basket in a noisy living room as there is nowhere else to put him with the others running about as well.

Anyway........

teething - some of us had a discussion on FB and yes our babies could be teething was the general consensus, I remember reading or hearing that the most painful part was when the little teethies are moving up through the gums not when they erupt

den - hope you feel better soon and best of luck at the neurosurgeons on Friday

sassles - teeth don't always come in at the front, have seem some babies eye teeth come in first like Dracula so it could be

dancingthroughlife - glad you had a good holiday welcome back

first1 - giving them the giggles is lovely isn't it, good luck for your op you are so brave, hope it all goes well and you feel better for it

pamelat - your poor friend, I know how hard IVF is as well (from a friend who went through it) I have a wonderful MN friend who MCed her DS the same morning Jacob was born

Millingtonsmummy - happy belated birthday, 3 years ago my Dad and brother forgot my birthday and my not so darling Mother phoned me up and said "your card is here you can get it next time you visit" erm that's not the point, last year she sent me a card with a nasty note in it, it kind of was the last straw anyway I digress, you are right enjoy your new family

homebirth - ahh the 4am overthinking, I am prone to it myself. It's not good for you. Whoever said gettin yourself out to Mother and Toddler groups is a good way to meet people is right. We only moved to this town 5 years ago, knew noone, phoned the HV got some M&T groups to go to (MN told me too lol) was totally daunting at first but I kept going and soon made some great new friends. DP is shocked about how many people I know and it's all from toddlers/BFing group/nursery and school.

Cupcake - chocolate, I was starving after DS and had an emergencey Snickers packed, and loads of nice drinks too

Right better get off here and think about bed, I am my own worst enemy I moan about being tired then spend all night on here or watching TV, think it is because I get some P&Q and me time.

Cupcake- My suggestions have already been said.. tea tree oil and chocolate! A mars bar was the first thing i ate after having Lucy as the Tea and Toast was alittle slow at coming and I was starving!

Both girls have seemed to have taken to snuggling a muslin for comfort. DD1 still likes to take one to bed with her. Good thing about a Muslin is that is its easy to replace when it gets dirty and washing. :)

Millington- Happy Belated birthday! Enjoy your belated dinner :)

Rachel- Go Eric!!!
DD never rolled but was sitting up unaided my 4mths.

Homebirth- I know what you mean about a girly laugh. I havent had a girly night since I left work with DD1 which was just over 2 yrs ago :( Its amazing how things/people change once you have children.

Totally agree about Mother and toddler groups. Mummy friends I made with DD1 at 3mths we still all see and we have all just been to each of the girls 2nd birthdays.

Pamlet- :( for your friend. We were very lucky with both girls- 3mths then first try, so it must be awful to have to go through that.

I find myself getting hot and flustered easier, but i think its just because the weather is generally stickier and im rushing around more.

First- Yay on the laugh So cute isnt it.
Good luck for the op... You'll be fine!

WLTK- A few minutes at a time is fine, it will get longer over time. DD1 hated being on her front at first and would scream her head off!

Dancing- Glad you had a good holiday :)

Sassles- Could be teething.. Some babies do start early. We had the opposite as DD1 didnt start till 14mths!

Den- Hope you feel better soon
Yes, i too feel abit jealous of my sister who is about 20 weeks now. I have days where I really want to be pregnant again right now! - Madness!

SK- Yeah I feel like that sometimes when poor Lucy has just gone off only to be woken by DD running around like a looney!

DH has gone away for work all this week :( Poor DD is really missing him already and keeps asking for him. He really didnt want to go and did get abit upset after putting DD to bed last night, bless him.
During the day is/was fine its just trying to do dinner, bath and bed alone with 2 is abit tricky. Takes abit of juggling!
Mum is coming to stay wed till fri so will (hopefully) get some help! Although quite often mum staying means MORE stress!

Interesting to hear how some are wondering about teething - I've been thinking the same thing in the last week or so, as my DD has been dribbling like mad, really trying to chew her fist *(but refusing the boob), and has been inconsolable for some bits of the day. Poor little mite...

Just back from hol, so have missed a lot of the week's discussions... will try to catch up!

same here re teeth, fretting at some feeds,chewin fist, dribbling and can definately see the gums pushing up,poor mites.

Is anyone else still up for 2 feeds in the night? We are every night,tired now.

Poor you, Pamelat - my first DD was a frequent waker for years. There's nothing like prolonged tiredness - I can still remember the feeling. It's still very early days, though; I'm sure your LO will go down to one night feed soon.

DD2 is exceptional - sleeps through reliably. It's soooooo lovely, particularly as I don't take it for granted and have been through years of the flip side

i really don't know how you do it, pam, oscar slept last night 11 till 9, usually betwen 6 and 9 normal wake, and the has mamooth breakfast of 40-50 min, and i am exhausted, got no reason to complain, i see... he is now happily bubbling away...

Re teething - I was told that the teeth start to move around quite early even if they don't appear for a while. I think Corin might be having some of that, seems a bit grumpy atm.

Happy belated birthday Millingtonsmummy.

Pamelat - you must be exhausted :(

Anyone know anything about chickenpox? It seems that quite a few children in our town have had it and DD's been playing with them. I read that they incubate it for a while and have a general sense of unwellness during that time - she's been unwell since last week but with no symptoms other than clearly not being OK and an occasional fever. Maybe spots will appear soon, not sure.

Pigley - hope you manage OK this week on your own, it must be a bit scary! DH is going away for a stag weekend soon and I'm quite nervous about it.

Rachel - wow at Eric rolling already! Corin keeps trying to and can scoot around the floor with his ankles but hasn't actually rolled afaik. Although I have found him in some strange positions in his cot so not sure (I found him on his tummy one morning so I guess he might have rolled there. Hmm.)

Dancing - glad you had a good holiday :)

First1 - I love the first laughs, they're fab :)

feeding so far today (and yes, i do realise i am repeating myself, but...)
9.20 am- 45 minutes, both sides
sleep and play
11.20- 10 min, one side
asleep
number of bottles so far: 0

pamelat our night feeds are 11, 1, 3, 5 then up at 6

WLTK I am so, so chuffed for you. You are a star!

HB4 That's really tough going. Sam went through two weeks of that pattern and I felt awful. Can your DH take some of the feeds? My bf advisor thought that Sam was falling asleep b4 getting high calorie milk in breast or I was swapping him too early to the other boob as he was moaning. He seems to have settled down again and don't think I am doing a thing different

teeth thanks for all the teething comments. Reassuring to know others are seeing simmilar things. He seems better today but didn;t have the major grump till about 2pm so we'll see. Bought calpol and teething gel in case. Think it may bethe teeth moving under the gums. sk will get HV to look at the wee gum thing when I see her on thurs to see if she thinks it may be an eye tooth. Dracula baby. Scary thought when bfeeding!

on the move can't beileve so many are on the move already. Sam has started pushing with his feet on the changing mat and moving himself up the way. No signs of rolling yet, but need to give him more mat/tummy time I think. Quite happy for him not to move about too much yet though! He can stand really weel with his legs with a bit of support, but ages away from it for real. He's esp funny in the bath where he stands and tenses his arms and pouts like a body builder. Hilarious.

terrible morning here.
Went to playgroup and DD decides to kick off as we are leaving not wanting to go. Get her to the car park where she refuses to cross the road,cue screaming. I knelt down to try and reason with her, went to stand back up and lost my balance as I had Lucy in the carseat on my other arm. Ended up flat on my back! My bum is now sore and ive grazed my hand so feeling abit sorry for myself! Thankfully I dont think anyone saw and Lucy was fine and not fussed by a little bump. Managed to get DD in the car and drove home to her screaming for Daddy. :(
Maybe DH should of had his time off after he went away as shes become too attached to him being home and getting away with too much.
Hopefully a nap after lunch will sort her out. [Sigh]

Pamlet- I feel your pain as DD1 was always up loads at night... wide awake and ready to play!

Heffa- Kids are contagious the 2 weeks before the spots appear so by then its too late. Apprently its better for them to get it younger.

Rolling- Lucy decided to roll onto her side today at playgroup so guess we will be on the move soon.

Hoping I can get them both napping together in a bit so i can have some well earnt peace!

oh, pigley, hope you are all ok, have youself some cake, not too much....
typing one handed due to baby attached.

Pigley - sorry you've had a terrible morning :( I hate those kind of days. I've heard it's better to get chickenpox young too. I guess I'll find out if it's that soon enough!

Pigley so sorry you're on your own this week, that sounds like a nightmare! Glad you're getting some help from wednesday. I know how particularly difficult dinner, bath, and bedtime is for me when DH is on late shifts, but at least I have him until lunch time on those days.

You're not alone, I'm also having one of those days. DS1 started throwing up last night about midnight, about every 30 mins until 4.30, then awake at 7 and throwing up again but whingeing that he was hungry. I ended up giving him sips of lemonade, he didn't stop throwing up until 10.30 and has been in trouble 3 times already for hitting Eric. In the midst of this I fed Eric at 11, 3, 5 and 7 (pretty typical for us Pamelat) I'm praying this is an odd day where DS1 will have a nap as I desperately need one, too!

Sorry this post is mainly about me!

Hi all, eventually getting time to catch up as both dd's are asleep for now and through a really loud thunder storm of all things .

Had Grace weighed this morning again and she's lost an ounce this week! She's now moved down two centiles to the lowest, she's 8lb 9oz at 11 weeks. The hv's advise was to try to squeeze in an extra feed, she's currently having 6-7 long feeds each day and sleeps through, she's content inbetween feeds and is weeing and pooing regularly. I rang her consultants secretary and unfortunately she's on holiday this week but a surgical registrar rang me back. They want to see her next week when the consultant is back in work but did suggest seeing the gp to see is she needs a higher calorie supplement. I presume this means some sort of formula which I don't want to do till I see the consultant so now really puzzled as to what to do next. I'm also starting to panic that her bowel isn't absorbing nutrients properly or something's not right with her even though she seems absolutely fine. [panicking mammy emoticon]

Oh and dd1's potty training is going really well, she's weeing on the potty and the toilet but has pooed in her pants for the last two days, any ideas?

Millington - happy belated birthday, sorry your family forgot. :(

First1 - I'm sure your surgery will be fine and think of the results afterwards.

Dancing - glad you had a good holiday, Darcey sounds like she enjoyed all the attention. :)

Sassles - I posted a status on fb about teething and it seems a lot of the babies are doing similar things, seems like something is happening in there.

Den - good luck with jabs and neurosurgeon this week, hope your feeling better too.

Pigley - hope this week isn't too stressful, it's my worst nightmare, I count the hours till dh comes home each night. At least you've got reinforcements arriving tomorrow. Oh, just read your last post and see your 2yo is being a delight, I know the feeling well, Isabella had a tantrum today because I wouldn't carry her from the car to the house. Cue 20 mins of screaming and snot.

Pamelat - dd is sleeping through but if it's any consolation because she's not putting weight on I wish she was getting up for at least one though I really don't envy the lack of sleep.

Rachel - poor ds1 and poor you, you must be exhausted. :(

Oh and forgot, I have my gym induction tonight and I'm terrified. I haven't exercised since 2007 when I got pg with dd1 and I am extremely unfit. Hope they don't expect too much of me, I may collapse in a heap.

Sorry for me post but I am fuming with OH. ...

So divorce is under way. I am just seemingly agreeing to all suggestions solicitor has as I've just got so much on my plate, plus I dont really understand all the legal jargon but feel too much of a prat to ask. But anyway. For the past 3 weeks, OH's arrangement with Chloe has been seeing her twice a week. So out of those 6: 2 he was late picking her up, 1 he was late dropping back and "forgot" to feed her, and 2 he has been too busy at work to even see her at all. I'm soo pi$$sed off with him, she's his daughter, his only daughter and he just cant be arsed to see her. Ahhh punches a pillow