May 2010: All the babies have arrived, welcome to the other side!

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Here we are ladies, a new Postnatal thread! I wonder if we'll fill this one up as fast with one-handed typing?!

wltk well done fantastic you are a star

first1 you are not smug, you have every right to feel PROUD of your achievements and positive future. again, well done to you too

oops came on to say, i found a new radio station.
my baby radio available on dab and on internet, just listened to article about breast feeding in the evening they play lullabies,yet to explore the website, but here is the link www.mybabyradio.com

first congrats on the weightloss and the new job - it's about time you had some positives in life after all the rubbish you've had to go through recently.

ML not happy to hear about the rain round your way - we're off on our hols tonight and are travelling up to Chester on Sunday (via MILs for a couple of nights) and will be up there for about ten days. It would be nice if there was some decent weather whilst we were there as we want to do lots of day trips to N Wales/the Lakes etc.

wltk congrats on the feeding - you definitely deserve some award for perseverance!

Don't know that I'll be around much over the next little while as it depends on access to a pc. Hope you all have a lovely time over the next couple of weeks...

Carikube...I live 5 miles from chester and Im afraid the weather is rotten..its rained every day for 3 weeks..bring some nice weather with you

ML not what I want to hear oh well at least dd1 will no doubt have fun wrecking my parents' house

WLTK I really admire your attitude towards things . Have been telling myself to think positive this week and I think it kind of works. Had a few tough "cant cope" moments today but they passed within 10/15 minutes, was still ready for DH to come home by 6pm

And now very ready for a glass of wine ...

FIL not too good. He has his bowel cancer operation on Monday and initially seemed really well but now he is quite poorly. Am sure he will be fine again but a few scans today to see what is wrong, maybe an infection. Poor DH is rather stressed so am trying to not offload the kids too much on him but I cant help asking for help still after a day with both of them. In fact he is great, I dont really have to ask as such. He has put Alex to bed (well he fell to sleep during his 6pm feed) and now settling DD.

Alex almost 12 weeks and suddenly seems less interested in feeding, his 2pm feed today took 10 minutes. Because of how long he normally feeds for I worried it wasnt enough but he was ok until 415pm so clearly was kind of ok???? Does anyone else find any feeds are short.

pamelat, thanks, i find that think positive really helps, but i also have 'can't cope' moments and cry a bit,it is all due to having a easily histerical mother, apparently i was a very difficult child, not my fault, i have severe asthma and ended up in hospital very often, she was besides herself, i am also allergic to metals and had an anaphilactic reaction once, they took me to the hospital unconscious and not breathing, thank goodness my uncle lived next door, he was the only one she could think of calling... i am determined to enjoy motherhood, also i have to admit the prospects of oscar having asthma do loom over me a bit...
i guess i can't complain, at least i am mixed feeding, besides every hv and midwife telling me i should give up, in a very polite way. today was a good day, 6.30 till now, only two bottles , guess will be bottles now till night, he doesn't seem happy to feed with me in the evening, but i think i'll try and top up with bottle, can't hurt...
beer will have to wait until after last feed at 11.

sorry about your fil, hopefully he'll be ok, nice your dh is taking it easy and helping with the kids,...

is it just me or are you finding yourselves a bit tearful?, i get upset over the most silly things, completely irrelevant to me, surely it is late for hormones...

feeds: oscar's are bizarre, he can feed for 40 min and last for 1 hour or feed for 10 min and sleep for 2 hours, as far as he feeds and sleeps i don't dare to question it... same with bottles thouh, anything between 2.5 to 5 hours...

ups!, his majesty waking up, surely he will wish changing and feeding (he had his jabs on tuesday, still a bit grumpy)

Pamelat - hope your FIL is OK. Corin's feeds are pretty short but he seems content enough. He's often on for about 5 minutes or less and then doesn't need any more for a while. Seems OK :)

Carikube - hope you have a lovely holiday!

First1 - congratulations on weight loss and new job :) That's great news!

ML - good luck with Olivia in the basket inside the cot :)

SK and Pigley - DD's favourite is Timmy Time, which she goes nuts for. We all have to sing the theme tune every time it's on and then she's glued to it.

DD's poorly today, very high temperature. There's a big family party (DH's family) tomorrow and I don't think we're going to be able to go unless she perks up. Poor thing was just lying on the sofa all afternoon. Although this morning I went to get Corin and came back to find her naked in the kitchen sink, covered in fairy liquid and painting the windows with bubbles

Finally get to sit down today.... phew.

Thankfully the weather held off and we went Horseracing. DD met Peppa pig which she beamed about and loved the funfair there for thier family day. Shes definately got the bug for the rides!
DH had a few bets on the gee gee's and came home £70 up so was pretty happy too. Lucy was a star so all in all a good day. :)

ML- I thought of you today seeing the face painting ladies working hard with a constantly long queue. I heard one mum saying that she had waited an hour and a half. They didnt look a patch on yours though :)

Did you manage the cot last night?

SK- Hows the extension going? Has any work started yet?

First- Well done on the weight and im sure the new job will give you something else to focus on apart from the divorce.

Homebirth- My friend told me about that channel before with DD and I did listen to it for a bit. You have reminded me :)

Carikube- Have a fab holiday and hope it stays dry at least.

Pamlet- Hope FIL improves soon. My DH is also a star and helps so much when hes home.
Im dreading him being away all next week. Its the evenings that im going to find partically hard going.:(

Anyway theres a big fresh cream and jam cake in the fridge with my name on it!

Carikube have a wonderful holiday :)

pamela Jude is definitely having shorter feeds too now...sometimes just 5 mins as heffa said. Think they just get more efficient as they get older.

heffa LOL to dd naked in the sink how did she get up there??

first I'm also wondering about eyes. Jude is 9 weeks tomorrow and still blue like the day he was born. Mine are green & dh's brown so I'm expecting them to change...but then both our Dads have blue eyes so he could in theory stay blue-eyed.

We went to a Mum & baby film screening at the cinema today. Was Shrek 4 (they're showing kids' films during the summer so older ones can come too but usually they're more adult ones) anyway I thoroughly enjoyed being at the cinema again and J was very well behaved :)

Hope you all have lovely weekends :) personally I love Friday nights and the prospect of dh home for2 whole days :):)

Hi everyone

Just back after a week down south visiting family and friends, had a fantastic time and feel quite sad to be home. Will pull myself together though, my eldest (4.5yr) starts school a week on Monday and I am still in shock those years have passed so quickly.

Will get on later to catch up, chinese takeaway just arrived

WLTK Im a bit tearful at the mo too, think its a combination of tiredness and hormones sorting themselves out.

Pigley glad you had a good day at the races..thank you for the compliment re the face painting

Newmomma are you ok? Im a little worried about you

Olivia slept blissfully with the moses basket in the cot..so we have done the same tonight then will try her again out of it next week..Ive got visions of her still being in her moses basket at 18 months!

DH in his wisdom bought some baby juice today and then gave Olivia 5 ozs of it..so she had the runs all evevning poor little thing

Hope you're ok newmomma

off on holiday to Donegal tomorrow - France is planned for next year but way I feel tonight I don't think I'll bother. Dh was supposed to get a roof box so we had plenty of space for all our stuff but he didn't and nothing has been done about packing. Ds got stung by a wasp earlier and has been milking it big time. Can't go to his room in case wasp still there. It isn't - I checked. Needs ice for his toe so another excuse about going to bed. Hasn't been able to get out his clothes for packing. Dd is in a huff because I wouldn't buy her all the crap she demanded for holiday treats. We have loads of buns and chocolate already. Molly was in grand form last night but not tonight. I had been taking fenugreek to build up my milk supply so I could express for my haircut and the results were astounding. I've stopped it but will use it again once I start expressing for the freezer for going back to work. My boobs were more engorged after 2 days on fenugreek than when my milk came in when Molly was born. I had my hair cut but not coloured and I'm so grey :(

grumpy me post - sorry

pamelat - so sorry to hear about your FIL, hope things get better for him soon

Jacob feeds like the others have described during the day he can be on 5 mins, at night before bed it can be 40 mins, I remember it from the other ones as well, they do get more efficient at getting milk out. Jacob smiles up at me know whilst feeding, almost laughing at me which is not funny when he unlatches during a let down and milk goes everywhere, naughty boy already.

pigley - Peppa and George looked huge. I think the extension won't start until next Spring as don't want to be building anywhere near Christmas plus with the frost better to wait until next year, am happy about delaying it a bit.

brightred - welcome back, we can hold each others hands DD2 starts school next week too she's 4.6yo as well, two at school wow

ML - sorry you are having such trouble with the bogus face painter

mollycuddles - I think going to holiday anywhere is stressful with children, hope you get it all sorted and get away OK and have a good hol

first1 - well done you on the weight loss and new job, you go girl

newmomma - how are you doing?

cupcake - we definitely have a brown eyed boy here, the girls were all dark blue to being with but lightened after a few months. I love Fridays too, 2 days of Daddy help!

WLTK - well done on the no bottles front, your perseverance has really paid off

Hi all

Hope you are OK newmomma - thinking of you.

Pamelat - hope your FIL gets positive news

Hope you have a restful holiday Mollycuddles. I am quite tragic at packing - I have a typed (yes I did actually sit down and type it all out) list which I print off every time we go anywhere, from MIL to abroad, and I mark off every single thing on the list until it all goes in the car. It takes hours!

Pigley - I love the races too! But living in York you have to like racing - our road out of our village is closed on race days in York to allow race traffic through. If you didn't like racing, I can imagine that would be really annoying!

I have done A Bad Thing. It is DD's christening tomorrow - full church affair at York Minster. I was watching the DVD of DS's christening this morning with DS and DSis, to try and explain to DS what will happen tomorrow when I saw something on the DVD and said really loudly "Oh my God!" DS is now repeating the phrase but with added emphasis, as in "Oh. My. God" (think Janice from Friends), really loudly. I have tried responding with "Oh my goodness" and "Oh my woolly word", and then just ignoring it in the hope that he might drop it, but to no avail. I will die of embarrassment if he says that at any point during the christening (FIL was Canon so v religious family) - what can I do to stop him??!!

Oh and DD snores - sounds like a cat purring! Must start getting her out of moses basket and into cot asap!

Right, had dinner and now managed to sort of catch up with the thread but I have realised its been ages since I have been really up to speed with how everyone is!

I am totally lost as to who wouldliketoknow is - any clues?

feeding times DD2 also has quick feeds now, mostly she has both sides at a feed and I couldn't tell you how often she feeds as I am so busy with DD1 and DS that I just latch her on when she cries! She does take a dummy sometimes and did fall asleep sucking her thumb the other day (awwww that was so cute!). She has one or two feeds during the night but because she is still in the moses basket next to my bed I just keep her in the bed after she has fed. To be honest I enjoy having that one to one time with her.
HV asked me if she was exclusively breastfed when she had her 2nd jabs and was weighed a couple of weeks ago, I said yes and she said well done! Surely that is not rare in this day and age? She weighed 13lbs at 12wks so is well on target for doubling her birth weight (7lbs 12) at 6 months.

Hormonal I know two friends who have struggled to get their baby to take a bottle but had success when they used MAM teats. You don't need to keep buying different bottles as most teats will fit the bottle you have (I don't speak from experience but this is what a friend had said when she realised she had spent a fortune in different bottles and teats!)

Sweetkitty your hand of support is very welcome, I don't think its really sunk in yet that she is going to school, I am in denial!

Whats the chat about a meet up? Is it UK wide or are there regional ones too? I am up for a Glasgow area meet up

ML glad you had success on Olivia sleeping in the cot via the moses basket. Were you mad at DP for giving the juice?

Welcome Woollyjo , I think I recognise your name from another thread (I wasn't posting on it but visited it when a cyber pal had a baby a while ago now). Congratulations on the birth of Seren, what a lovely lovely name.

Millingtonsmummy really empathise with you on the broken nights sleep, I am terrible at going to be early enough to fit in even enough hours of broken sleep and DD1 and DS regularly have night terrors so I feel like a twilight yo-yo and often go into the wrong bedroom to soothe a sleeping child then realise its the other one who is upset!

Angel Sorry to hear about your DH's affair, please do come on here and chat - you wont be bringing anyone down and it is lovely to hear how everyone is doing.

Rachel My DS (2.5) tried to hit the baby on the head when she scratched him yesterday (total accident obviously) and DD1 (4.5 so should know better) sometimes gets too rough with the baby as well. I am finding that including them more with the baby with tasks such as cleaning her in the bath (she has one of those moulded hard plastic reclined seats) and they wipe her bottom when its just a wet nappy, is really helping lessen their interest in her generally (suits me fine at this stage!). Its almost as if they are having so much more interaction with her that they have lost interest in being rough or keeping annoying her. I am sure your wee boy is just trying to say to you "hello I am still here" rather than him going to carry on the behaviour towards your DS2.

I had hoped to include a few more personals but I am struggling to keep my eyes open. Hope everyone has a good weekend

Hi Ladies,

Newmomma I am thinking of you a lot lately, as I'm struggling along I just imagine how tough it would be if the baby cried a lot. I really hope you're ok.

Pamelat so sorry about your FIL. That poem you posted about leaving the tidying up made me cry! I'm trying so hard to enjoy every minute of it while Eric is still young.

SK the smiling on the breast and milk dribbles are a big part of our mornings now as well, it's so funny isn't it!?

I can't remember who was asking about weaning, but I started with DS1 at 4 months but he was not really interested until he was about 7 or 8 months. I did loads of AK puree recipes as well but found it to be quite a hassle to do so many ice cube trays full of food so will prob give baby lead weaning a go this time and won't start until 6 months no matter how giant Eric gets.

mollycuddles arrgh! I can just imagine! I hope your DS is ok after getting stung but I know what you mean about the melodrama! My DS1 says things all day like he can't go into the dining room to get his shoes because he's "scared" just to be an uncooperative little git. Also a task like going to the toilet by himself he'll do brilliantly and get a sticker for in the morning, but suddenly doesn't have the skills when I'm feeding Eric and am unavailable. That also sounds like exactly what my DH would do about the extra storage! I hope you get packed ok and enjoy yourselves!

I won't go into too much detail but will just say that things went from bad to worse since my last post when there was a smearing of poo incident in DS1's bedroom, he has never done anything remotely like that before so DH and I were shocked. He was very apologetic afterwards so hopefully it won't ever happen again. At least DS1's aggression seems to have subsided (thanks to all for your support!) I've cried so many times in the last 2 days. I think Eric must be having a growth spurt as he wants to be feeding so much more often.

I think I'm very much mourning the loss of life as we used to know it. I wonder if there will ever come a time when I'll be able to give DS1 the attention he craves. It makes me cry to think of bath times just a few months ago when I would dry his hair with the hair dryer and put lotion on his arms and legs and he loved it. Now it's just quickly with a towel and get him dressed before Eric gets too wound up in the crying (he always frets at that time of evening.) Sometimes I wonder if I made a mistake as I hate putting DS1 through this. I feel guilty sometimes when I enjoy Eric so much, I can't imagine life without him already. I just hope I get a chance for some time alone with DS1 soon. And then there's the relationship with DH to consider as well ...

DH is working all day tomorrow as well so I've decided I'm taking my DCs into London, I doubt it can be any MORE stressful than the past few days have been and at least there will be lots of distractions.

I'm also with you on the grey hairs Molly, I've barely had time to bathe let alone colour my hair! My hair is coming out in shanks at the moment, can't remember who mentioned hair loss earlier, but I have that in abundance as well.

Heffa that is hilarious about your DD naked in the sink!

Well done to you ML for getting Olivia to sleep in her moses basket in her cot. I wish Eric still fit in his so I could try that!

First1 congrats on the job and being back to pre pregnancy weight!

WLTK super job with the breastfeeding, that is amazing!

Pigley the Peppa photos on FB are great!

Sorry for the disjointed post. There's a lot more I wanted to say but I'm posting from my mobile in bed and should get to sleep! I hope everyone has a good weekend!

Rachel - so sorry you're having such a tough time :( I'm sure your DS1 will appreciate in the long run, it's lovely to have a sibling.

Tomlin - hope the christening goes well, very funny about your DS, I'm sure people will be understanding if he does say it.

Mollycuddles - hope you have a nice holiday in Donegal :) Sounds like you need a break.

BRB - glad you have a nice time away :)

Cupcakefairy - she has a chair in the kitchen that she pulls up to the surfaces so she can see what's going on/"help" me cook. She's particularly fond of the spices and likes to eat them raw

Newmomma - are you OK?

brightredballoon, you might remember me as alle01... if not, i am oscar's mum, he is 13 weeks and 2 days, i am also in facebook, and live in the south east, near brighton.

only 3 bottles yesterday, today oscar slept until 8 in the morning, that was 12 hours without feed, so after breastfeeding for an hour, i surrender to a bottle and he had 6 oz, i think next time i'll wake him up at eleven and give him his feed

Just very quickly as have asked DH to take DD for an hour whist I clean and feed Alex (but am on here!!). Had awful problems with my DD, including poo smearing X 2 in one day. This went on for 3 weeks and she now seems ok. She is 2.5

I really miss her so I know what you mean. I am going to start to put Alex in a creche for an hour every friday morning so I can take her swimming and just have mummy and DD time. Sometimes I wish we had waited another year as its a difficult age for her to cope with this so know where you are coming from.

one quick question: have your baby ever produced green poo? do you know what causes it? should i be worried?

Sorry for the 'me' post but I'm just getting desperate.

I've started this thread - could anyone offer any more suggestions??

Advice please

green poo, yes a bit, wind causes it.

With my DD SMA caused green poo so I switched to aptamil. Wiith DS SMA is fine.

sorry one handed typing.

quick post, one hand

wouldliketoknow - i asked gp about green poo this week (we've been seeing it on and off for a couple of weeks) he said it was bile and just means food is passing through gut too quickly but that its nothing to worry about. i read on mn that it could be because baby is getting too much fore milk and not enough hind milk

newmomma - sorry no advice to offer but wishing you fewer tears soon