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May 2010: All the babies have arrived, welcome to the other side!

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rachelfruitloop · 16/06/2010 14:21

Here we are ladies, a new Postnatal thread! I wonder if we'll fill this one up as fast with one-handed typing?!

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sweetkitty · 01/07/2010 08:47

I'm still here reading but not getting much time to post. Not a bad night last night, after an hour's feed before bed he was only up twice 1am and 5am, he was going through with only one wakening though. He latches on and falls back asleep though so not too bad.

We have just first set of jabs this morning not looking forward to them especially as they are at this community centre and not the GPs (it's being extended or something) and I have to take the whole gang along.

Will try and check back in later

hollyoaks · 01/07/2010 08:57

Big breath and I'll try to catch up

LuckyC - Grace is pretty grizzly when she's awake at the moment, we rarely get any awake time with her when she just sits calmly. Feels like we're constantly sticking the dummy in or cuddling her in to settle her. No time to get anything done.

cupcake - yep, worse than childbirth, I dread going to the toilet atm as I haven't got g&a piped into the bathroom

Mollycuddles - thanks again for the medical advice. I'm trying to hold out till my 6 week check next week and then will be asking for some prescription cream.
Sorry you missed your last day with just you, dh and molls.

Carikube - like others have said, my 10yo nephew loves his bike, computer games and building with lego etc... Hope it goes well.

SK - thanks for your advice too, not sure why this is flaring up now, 5 weeks after she was born but find it difficult to sit down when its really painful.

Pigley - that your dh has a commute, I hate it when dh works further afield and he's late getting back. I find myself these days waiting for the phonecall to say he's on his way home. I hate being in the house by myself.

Angel - big congrats on the washing machine Hope your dd's ultrasound results are good news.

Newmomma - sorry that your having such an awful time this time round. I haven't got much practical advice but please use the thread to rant away. It's really important for your own sanity that you talk to people about how your feeling and like ML said, if you need to walk away for a few minutes. Hope things start to improve and the hv gives you some useful solutions. Oh forgot to mention I am constantly told of the wonders of coleif too, might be worth a try.

Homebirth - well done one being a milk donor, I wish my supply was large enough to help out but I can barely express enough for one bottle atm.

Katey - thanks for your advice too, I would love to meet everyone as well but it would be difficult as we're so spread out. Maybe we would have to split and do a north meet up and a south meet up.

Tomlin - I think the garden and location would swing me towards house 2 too.

Pamelat - hope you had a more settled night with alex last night

Ande - great name, glad you have averted the police

first1 - really for you, for what it's worth your dh sounds like a bit of an idiot to have lost out on a family. At least you get Chloe who will be a massive source of support and love for you.

homebirth - at your exdh, glad you got away from him.

den - you must be so worried about Rian, I'm sure it's all precautionary, but nothing stops you stressing about it does it.

MDM - an hours commute when he works 6 miles away . What crazy public transport.

Kaffa - good to hear Albie is doing well despite the lack of a sleeping routine.

And relax

Well, we have had three good nights after giving grace a 3-4oz expressed bottle last thing at night. Only up once last night for a quick feed before she properly settled for the night. However, I'm struggling to express the one bottle each day. I get 2oz off in the morning straight after her morning feed when my boobs feel engorged and then 1-1.5oz at some point in the afternoon. Trying to be consistent with the times but really struggled yesterday with a lack of supply. Do you think it could be the hot weather, burnt my back yesterday. I didn't feel any let down yesterday at all. Worried my supply is waning. however I got another 2oz off again this morning.

hollyoaks · 01/07/2010 08:59

Den - forgot to add, try not to research too much till you know what you are dealing with. It may not come to surgery and there's no point worrying about possibilities.

mollycuddles · 01/07/2010 10:01

No time for proper post but hollyoaks - with dd1 and now Molls while approaching 6 wks my letdown is suddenly much less intense - a v slight tingle. It was quite sore before. Good I no longer have the pain but can mean I'm leaking without noticing. Oops. Might be similar with you

hollyoaks · 01/07/2010 10:14

Molly - just thinking about re-posting as have just fed Grace and leaked all over my top from my other boob and didn't really feel anything apart from a slight tingle. Going overboard on the fluid intake so will probably have soaked through ten tops by then Crisis averted.

memorylapse · 01/07/2010 11:09

Den..step away from Google!! thats why I linked from the NHS direct site..best thing to do is get some clear, concise information from your health visitor or gp

rachelfruitloop · 01/07/2010 11:33

Hi ladies, had a bit of an unsettled evening last night, don't know why Eric was so awake most of the day and then a feeding machine in the evening. 6 week growth spurt I'm guessing? Fast asleep as usual this morning! alex I have sent you an email, so look out for that! How exciting that you live nearby! Sorry we dont live closer Kateyjane as I'd love to meet you as well. MDM LOL at your DH locking himself out! Mine is either locking himself out or forgetting to take the door off the latch. Consequently, the postman pushed the door open accidentally the other day and caught me breast feeding, the look on his face was priceless! Hollyoaks I hope your bum feels better soon! LOL about not having g&a piped into the bathroom yet. I SO need it too, not sure why the piles have gotten worse for me the last couple of weeks as well. Think i'll ask for some cream next week at the check, too. TMI, but I'm not able to go sit on the toilet right away when I feel the urge because I'm so busy and I know it will take ages to get anything out, which just makes it worse! I think maybe a combination of breast feeding and hot weather making me dehydrated and constipated is making the piles worse too, oh the pains we mummies endure!

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newmomma · 01/07/2010 12:22

Morning all...
Still tearing my hair out here.

BF clinic said she's a very poorly co-ordinated feeder. Swallowing more air than anything else and so have given me a new position to try. But she hates it so I have to talk her through feeding just so she won't cry instead. Also said she's got thrush on her tongue (been to the docs TWICE already but they said not), so went back again yesterday after the BF clinic to get thrush medicine.

Said she may grow out of the worst of it in the next few weeks and to possibly try cranial osteopathy if nothing else helps.

HV just been and not really offered much help but to say keep doing what I'm doing. She stayed a while (DD was asleep) and made a hasty retreat after she woke up screaming. No patience...

Anyway - responses:

Thanks everyone for your advice and kind words, it is so very nice to know that people are supportive rather than quietly judgy. I was desperate to give DS some time yesterday so after walking for ages - though DD was asleep, stopped off at the park to have some fun with him - she woke up screaming after about 15 seconds. So I ignored her a tried to give DS some attention - but I left in tears after 15 mins as so many other mums were giving me evil looks for ignoring her. Like I can do anything to shut her up even if I try?!?

sweetkitty what sling do you use - my dad is going to buy me one to try but its such a minefield... Was thinking of a kari-me.

alle01 you ARE doing a great job bf, it is such a hard thing to get right - it took me nearly 16 weeks with DS (with a severe tongue-tie) but once you do it is utterly wonderful. Have you tried hand expressing a little before putting your LO to your breast - it can help the let-down start and baby might fuss less? I have also wondered if it is possible for babies to break an arm/leg/finger during birth or other method (overly zealous hug from a big brother?) as there simply has to be something wrong - no-one can cry this much for no reason. Surely?

luckyc I have tried feeding DD more, but think that may have made things worse - she tries, but is too full (milk or wind I'm not sure) and gets even crosser. Plus if it reflux it would make it worse. But either was I spent a few days making the mistake of feeding her just to keep her quiet but it deffo didn't help.

anangelwithin keep going with the bf!! Get as much help/support as you can from local friend or clinics, but don't beat yourself up about struggling, I literally couldn't understand how getting a baby to suck something could be SO HARD before having a baby - but it does take time to learn. It's absolutely worth the effort in the long run though!

*hobnob& have tried white noise - it seems to actually be the only thing that will keep her quiet long enough to go to sleep, but it doesn' last - she wakes up shortly after (with a pain...?) and cries again. Even with the white noise still on. And very loud!

alexw AM SO JEALOUS OF YOUR SLEEP!!!!! Well done you - what routine are you following? One of your own, or the dreaded Gina Ford?

Pigleychez I meant to ask the doctor yesterday about reflux medicine and forgot. Bum. Surely if she thought that was what the problem was she'd have mentioned the drugs to me...?

Sassles thanks for such sweet words - lets be the crying sisters holding hands across the internet. It doesn't matter if its day one or week three - its still that hardest thing to go through (and I've been through a bit in my life) and so tiring. Fingers crossed both babies learn to be more contect soon for both our sakes!

kateyjane again thanks for being so sweet - unfortunately the car doesn't work. I drove for over an hour yesterday with her crying the whole time, but at least I didn't have to hold her - I ache from the effort of keeping her quiet. Poor DS was not happy about having to sit in the back and listen to her though...

memorylapse I have had a few moments where I have had to walk away - the futility and frustration becomes so all-consuming. I an in awe of you coping that long - 4mths is hard enough let alone a year. Dear god please don't let this last that long.

carikube thanks for the offer of help - we went to Soton General get her tongue-tie fixed - perhaps you might have heard her crying on the way past? hehe. If I get really desperate I will try and contact you as Soton is not that far - especially if we were to meet half way.

homebirthmummy4 hope you're feeling brighter and trying not to let the past upset you too much. I know its cliche but the important thing to remember is that you can't change what has happened already, just move on. If you need to consider talking to someone about it I think there are professional post-birth counselling people you can talk to - or if you want to talk to a stranger over the phone I'll happily give you my number!! Free (non-professional!) listening service...

firs1 I feel such a loser whining about how hard things are for me when you're going through such a hard time. I hope you manage to settle into a solution that works ok for both of - if that is apart or together. My parents stayed together for the sake of the kids and it was awful, but I'm shocked by how insensitive your (D)H has been to you - post-birth weeks are so hard without this added stress.

Finally Den. Agreed - STOP GOOGLING. Every case is different and you will stress yourself out reading worst case scenarios which may very well not apply to you. The timing of this is weird though because my nephew has gone into hospital today for the same operation you mentioned, his form of craniosyntosis is called scaphocephaly. I am by no means an expert but if you're interested I would be happy to let you know what the procedure is going to be for him - but bear in mind, as I said, that every case is very different. You're probably much better to wait and see what the doctor/specialist says and then do some research.

Phew - what a mammoth post. Hope I haven't missed anyone, and again, thanks so much for all the support. It really means so much.

Over and out...

first1 · 01/07/2010 13:08

I dont suppose any of you are in Surrey/SW London are you? I could really do with a bit of moral support

newmomma · 01/07/2010 13:35

Oh first1 I'm not - but I truly wish I were.

I'll happily give you my phone number if you need to talk...?

I'm in Reading, Berkshire - If you fancy a drive though?

ande · 01/07/2010 13:38

Hi firt1 I'm in Kingston if that helps.

ande · 01/07/2010 13:39

Grr thats first1 not firt1! x

rachelfruitloop · 01/07/2010 15:05

first1 I'm pretty good getting around on the Underground and wouldn't mind coming down south to meet up in London if you fancy it? Email me at blind_lisa at yahoo dot com.

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first1 · 01/07/2010 15:26

Thanks newmomma I went to Reading uni so know it quite well. Might be quite nice to have a drive and get away from it all and check out the old Oracle again! I'd be more than happy to try singing or something to see if I can help your lo stop crying, my singing is so awful I'm sure she'd be shocked into quietness!

ande I had my LO at Kingston! Did you have your lo there? I did! I'm Surbiton way.

rachel how sweet of you! I've jotted down your email and will holla soon, thanks!

KaffaCakes · 01/07/2010 15:44

hollyoaks sounds like I'm having the exact same problem as you, I too am worrying that my supply has dropped. I just leaked through my (clean) dress without noticing. Also my piles have been so painful the past week or so, why now?! i could barely move after a bad poo the other day.

newmomma I had the same thing in Sainsbury's the other day, people are so quick to judge. A complete stranger was like 'Oh, he needs feeding'. I know he bloody wants feeding but he fed half an hour ago and I'm not about to get my boobs out in the ceral aisle! Nosy cow. Anyways, I guess what I'm saying is you know your daughter and her needs best so don't let other people bother you. You're doing great

sassles and newmomma I have been in tears the past few days with the sleep pattern so nonexistent. Some nights he barely sleeps at all then just feeds all morning and I am a mess. My DP is worried I'll develop post natal depression but coming on here to see that everyone is experiencing the same things helps.

Christ, Albie has just filled three nappies in five minutes. No wonder has hasn't settled all night with that constipation. No dirty nappies since 1 this morning! He looks a little skinnier now ;0

We had a bad scare the other day, wasn't sure whether to talk about it but I've been feeling very upset the past few days because of it and hopefully a cathartic post will help. Albie was asleep in the breastfeeding cushion on the sofa the other so I went into the kitchen to tidy up, checking every few minutes. I heard him stirring, then a thud before screams and he had somehow flipped out the cushion onto the living room carpet. I was beside myself, almost fainted but scooped him up gently and soothed him. I was shaking so much but checked him over and was perfectly fine, settled after a few seconds and fed for a while. I called my DP and he came home from work to comfort me. Albie doesn't have a mark on him and wasn't bothered at all but I feel like a terrible mother to let such a thing happen. I know these things do happen. i told my mum earlier and she said she had whacked my head on the door frame when I was tiny, and Dp's friend Rhys (with a new baby)dropped a phone on his son's head so I'm not alone, but I feel so guilty even though he's totally fine! I have yet to see evidence of his rolling but that's the only way he could have fallen off

I think coupled with feelings about my new restricted lifestyle I feel a bit low. Think I need some mummy friends around here as I'm almost alone in my motherhood. Sorry for the 'me' post, especially when some of you have much bigger problems. I guess I'm just feeling all the new mum stuff you're not supposed to talk about.

ande · 01/07/2010 16:36

Yes first1 I had my DS at Kingston. Come to think about it I think it was you I tried to reassure about the consultant Andrew Pooley at Kingston (?)

If you feel like meeting up in Kingston/Surbiton then let me know.

KaffaCakes That must have given you a horrible fright. Glad Albie sounds fine, you are probably far more upset and hurt by it than him. And you are supposed to talk about being low, especially on this thread.....

Rory has been real, actual, non fussing sleeping today (hence I'm actually posting) and i am frankly perplexed, not to mention extremely grateful.

Spoke too soon, Rory has just farted and started screaming, for someone so little he really can make ALOT of noise.

rachelfruitloop · 01/07/2010 16:44

kaffa my DS1 rolled off the sofa onto the floor when he was about 6 weeks old, same scenario you describe! Three years later and he's fine, and had much worse knocks as a toddler! Don't worry too much, i think you'll know if something is wrong. I also felt horrible after it happened but found that lots of the other mums i know had experienced similar!

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pamelat · 01/07/2010 16:54

kaffa you poor thing what a shock. I leave Alex on sofa propped in so thanks for sharing, wont now ....

had some good news today 1) fil's cancer has not spread and 2) a friend is pregnant on their 3rd attempt at ivf

alex had another bad night (4 wakings) but with dh back it is do-able. he is off today and tomorrow following his op. been swimming with dd and alex slept beside pool for an hour, lovely.

first1 · 01/07/2010 17:53

ande yeh it was me! I did see AP a couple of times towards the end he was lovely. Going back to the hospital tomoro though to see my original consultant to check the 3rd degree tear. Have had 3 lots of antibs so have everything crossed its finally at least starting to heal.

kaffa don't worry, sure your little one is fine, these little people are a lot more robust than we think!

pamelat wonderful news

Would anyone mind sharing with me how their first period after birth is/was like if bottle feeding? I'm pretty sure am on mine and this is the 8th day, not overly heavy but red blood. Am also back on the pill and guess its going to take a good few months to regulate. Am 5 weeks p/n

memorylapse · 01/07/2010 19:40

first1..fraid I cant help with the period advice..am still BF..so havent had a period yet..I went nearly a year without having a period after having DS2..from recollection though my first period after having DD2 was very heavy and I had dragging pains like no other

Kaffa..try not to worry..you will have been more shocked honestly...when DD2 was 10 months old..I discovered she could crawl up the stairs..by her bouncing down them on her head..cue mad dash to hospital..poor DD was shocked and had some bruises..but was surprisingly unscathed..I felt so terrible though..like the worst mum ever..maturally the stair gate was installed that evening

Den26 · 01/07/2010 19:53

Hey all, Ok...got message loud and clear - no more googling!!!!

Paediatrician called today, wants to see us tomorrow - so glad they're acting fast, theres nothing worse than waiting.

Newmomma - thanks, may get back to you once i know for definate what we're dealing with.

Sorry no personals, head a bit scrambled, will keep you all posted.

Hobnobfanatic · 01/07/2010 20:42

Kaffa - there but for the grace of God... we could all have been caught out. Luckily, I watched my LO turn over by herself from front to back, so I've been ultra careful since. If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes, I'd never have believed it and would have happily left her to make a cuppa.

Good luck, Den - glad the appt came through so quickly., We'll all have everything crossed for you. Let us know how you get on...

Have had a lovely evening with my LO - she's been googling and gurgling, screaming with joy, kicking her legs excitedly and smiling for England. Awwww, I could eat her up!

Hobnobfanatic · 01/07/2010 20:43

When I say "googling" - I mean it onomatopoeiacally!

millingtonsmummy · 01/07/2010 20:52

Hi Ladies,

May I join you? Not posted here or on an antenatal thread before. I'll introduce myself (and try to be brief!)

I'm mum to 2.5 DD and 7 wo DS. DS is bottle fed, stopped breast feeding at 2 weeks due to low milk suppy. I'm told this is linked to PCOS which I have. Very disappointed not to BF but at least I have a healthy little boy on my hands which I didn't after 2 weeks of BF. He's a sicky baby and constantly possets all day long. He'd love to feed every 30 minutes but trying to push him to more or less 4 hourly feeds. He has his last evening feed at 10.30pm then has been waking twice in the night. He has on occaision had 1 night feed, currently my dream!

DH is away on a stag do til Sunday and usually shares the load by doing the 10.30pm feed while I get an early night. I anticipate being in pieces come Sunday afternoon, wish Starbucks delivered!

alle01 · 01/07/2010 21:16

hi all
don't worry milling, you can vent here, and welcomne!
i went today to the health clinic to have oscar weight, 4.800 kg now!, wonderful midwife (can't believe i found one) found a problem with the latch, and taught me a position to help him latch better, and actually it doesn't hurt, but very sore nipples so it'll be a while, ...

first, i wish we could do something to cheer you up, 'll keep thinking

any body near brighton or eastbourne? somewhere in between? can't drive so i'm not very mobile.
den i'm sure it won't be too bad, hopefully will be ok soon

newmomma- i really feel for you, i wish i had some suggestions, keep asking for help to gp/hv, i found that if i ask constantly and don't go away they respond by looking into my concerns rapidly and efectively, so i will leave them alone,... it's worth a try...
kafka, don't feel bad, i have left him in the sofa or bed just for a minute, let that be a lesson to us all...

i hope a haven't forgot anyone,...i still don't have a brain back, and i'm back to uni in october!, i can only imagine my next essay: evolutionary psychology is zzzzzzzzzzz...