May 2010: All the babies have arrived, welcome to the other side!

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Here we are ladies, a new Postnatal thread! I wonder if we'll fill this one up as fast with one-handed typing?!

first1 I was going to try and contact you but your settings don't allow it.

Are you on the facebook group?

Rachel - hope your bum feels better soon too.

newmomma & first1 - I hope you both get to meet up, it sounds like you could both do with each others moral support.

kaffa - we could be twins . Try not to feel bad about Albie's fall, my sil left her dd on the bed at a similar age and she fell of that. Sil was obviously distraught but dn was absolutely fine and actually smiled for the first time that day. She's now 8 and there is no damage

Pamelat - congratulations on your fil and friend, thats great news.

first1 - I bottle fed dd1 and remember I'd had my first period before my 6 week check and I'm sure it was heavier than my pre-pg periods were just not sure how long it lasted. Was over by 6 week check though.

Den - good luck for the appointment today, let us know how you get on

Hobnob - your dd sounds lovely

Millington - welcome to the thread

alle - good luck with the new latch

Not much to report here, Grace was up once last night for a feed but twice for a nappy change. Grace's consultant also wrote to us to confirm her kidney and spinal scan and to say that she hasn't been discharged yet but doesn't want to see her for another three months.

hi all
nice night, 8 till 11, feed half asleep, then till 5, feed and awake for half an hour, then till 9.15, feed and play a little and back asleep, who gave valium to my baby?

does anybody have a tip for crack sore nipples, bf hurts like hell, already using lanolin?

do we have a facebbok group? want to joint, sent me a link, name, however you find it? have an account, i just don't use it... not much anyway

here alle...

facebook group

Sore nipples - jelonet dressing from chemist - moistened with lanolin will encourage healing and regular paracetamol

Passing through - will be back later

I am now on to my 3rd top for today as I leaked all over the first one without realising and then DD2 threw up on the 2nd...

newmomma I've sent a friend request via FB so you can get in touch easily if you do want to meet up.

first1 I'm not up round you but am at the other end of the M3 so could meet if you wanted - or maybe with newmomma we could do a mid-point gettogether!

kaffa I think everyone does something like this at some point; I managed to bash DD1's head on the corner of the coffee table when getting her off her playmat one time when she was only a few weeks old. She seemed to recover fairly quickly but I still took her to A&E as I was paranoid about a head injury. They were quite pleased to have a baby in with nothing wrong with them as that meant they could get the student doctor to examine them (apparently they don't get much chance normally as when they're ill, there's not really any time for training)

And for all those of you feeling isolated, I'm not the world's most outgoing person either but after having DD1 and not knowing anyone in the area, I forced myself to go to groups etc to meet other mums. Some I didn't bother going back to and others I actually enjoyed and so have continued with. It can be hard making that initial effort but it definitely pays off, especially when the LOs are a bit older.

first1 I can't remember what my first period was like after DD1 and haven't yet had one this time round so can't be much help I'm afraid.

Welcome millington

alle there is a small possibility that I will be in Eastbourne next Friday afternoon so I will let you know if I am.

My nipples are sore today - after 6 weeks of fairly successful feeding, today it hurts a lot and I don't know what I'm doing differently. I really hope that it will work out but for the first time there has been a bit of blood; as it was around this time that I had to stop feeding DD1, I'm scared that it is going to go wrong again so I just hope that this is a temporary blip...

Also DD2 wouldn't settle last night for a long time so I spent an hour until midnight lying there with my finger in her mouth...at least she then slept until 5.20am but she seems unsettled today.

Thanks for the suggestions re what to do with the 10 year old - the Wii yesterday afternoon was a great success. I feel v sorry for him as he is really missing his family, however things are so mixed up concerning my cousin's death that he's probably better off not being around it. There are already big problems surounding the lack of a will (so any of you out there that don't have a will - MAKE ONE!! for the sake of your dcs!!) and now the coroner is refusing to accept the cause of death and has ordered a postmortem which might then delay the funeral

carikube, eek at delaying the funeral that must be difficult.

virginia has started doing something which worries me, she will be sleeping peacefully and then suddenly wake with a scream followed by inconsolable sobs, its as though someone has stuck a pin in her or she is having a nightmare. anyone got any experience of this?
also, she is not happy feeding from right boob last 2 days, she comes off, cries, then goes back on, repeats cycle every minute or so, what can i do to make it work well again?

hope everyone is well, am dreading return of my piles in 3 weeks now! they were bad enough after the birth but 6 week return sounds awful!

off to baby massage class now

carivube, sounds great, will wait to hear from you!, sorry about the coroner, but glad the boy is away and entertained,...
off to facebook

homebirthmummy..OMG..Olivia does the same thing..it frightens the living daylights out of us..we wondered if its trapped wind or something as each time Ive raced out of bed, scooped her out of her basket..at which point she burps..and falls asleep!

failing that..I wonder if tiny babies can have nightmares?

babies have dreams in the womb, about what, rather limited, so it is possible they have nightmares.

but i wouldn't dare to esopeculate what goes on in a tiny brain, best leave that to researches.

mine smiles when asleep, thinking of me?

been reading but never seem to get round to posting..

Den- Hope the appointment went well today and you got some answers.

Angel/homebirth- I have the babasling. This video of instructions is much easier to understand that the written instructions.here

SK- hope jacob didnt mind his jabs too much

Hollyoaks- Glad you are getting good nights.
I always leak more when its hot too.

Kaffa- I remember dd falling off the bed at about 6mths. I was mortified. My MIL let slip the other day that she dropped her PFB on his head when he was newborn and still in hospital.

Pamlet- great news about your friend and your FIL

Millington- Welcome. There are quite a few of us on here with toddlers around 2.

Alle01- We are reasonably near Brighton, in Crawley.- up the A23.

Carikube- Sorry to hear about the will problems. Hope the postmortem doesnt delay things

So glad its the end of the week!!- Its been abit manic what with all of adjusting to the new routine of DH's commute and DD1 being off colour meaning lots of strops and tantrums.
So glad to have some support now its the weekend although we do have a busy one planned. Off to a friends DD's 2nd birthday party tomorrow then big family picnic on the sunday.

Lucy had her 6 week check today and alls good. My BP is still high so will need to have that monitored.oh joy!

Think im going to curl up on the sofa now as ive got a splitting headache and am feeling abit fuzzy and lightheaded.

newmomma holding hands across the internet sounds lovely. Sam had good day yesterday, but anothe awake/feeding constantly day from 6am and still going! Even 30min car ride didn;tget him to nod off. Not crying today tho so just bit exhausting.

DH let me have an hour kip tonight while he bathed Sam and tried to keep him as long as possible before me needing to feed him again. Made me realise that when I sleep at night, I am not actually properly asleep with one ear cocked at the first sign of noise. Completely different to a proper sleep when you know someone is looking after him. I am in total awe of anyone doing this alone. You are amazing.

Managed to get out for first time yesterday on my own to bf/massage class. Was great, but really uncomfy sitting on floor for that long. Leg went to sleep. Shame I couldn't . I seem to need a pillow to support Sam when feeding due to my enormous dangly norks! Need one had to hold nork in place and can't get him on good position with other. Any tips?

Class gave me an epiphany. I was getting worried about fore/hindmilk. One of the experienced mum's said it is more like 3 course meal. Quick sucks and gulps at start is soup, Suck, Suck swallow is mince and potatoes and then wee lip quiver at end is sticky tofee pudding when the high calorie stuff comes out. HV had me thinking that was Sam just having a comfort sook and think I have been taking him off boob during dessert! I wouldn't be happy with that although I'm more a fudge cake girl than sticky toffee!

kaffacakes Really feel for you with the non-night sleeping. Sam is quite consistent at night, So do get an unbroken 3.5 hours at the start then another 2. I agree that this is a brill outlet for sharing experiences and u feel so much better knowing others are going through same thing. I also leave Sam on the couch. Sometimes he only sleeps from the boob and I slide him across my lap on the pillow to the seat beside me as if I pick him up he wakes instantly. That way i may get 10 mins. Don't feel guilty about it, we all do it and just unlucky he managed to roll off. I try to pack stuff in round him, but bit paranoid that he may roll a bit and suffocate so run back and forth every fes mins to check. He is totally fine, but I would have been beside myself too. i know what you mean about the fainting feeling. Massive rush of blood to the head. So sorry you had such a scare.

molly carikube for your nipples. Not fun!

Dreams/nightmares - Sam def has both. Get wee whimpers or sleepy smiles. I guess he is thinking about milk in both of them. Either loads or not enough.

pigely I have same feeing today. Headache and fuzziness. Think it is a sleep depravation thing. My we catnap actually seemed to make me feel more tired and fuzzy. Also drove for the first time today and prob not the best condition to do it.

Royal mail truck jerk was up my ass the whole way along this road. Literally about 2 meters from my bumper and I was at the speed limit. I put my had out of the window and waved at him to move back and the jerk responded by driving closer!! {angry] He was so close he clearly would have seen Sam sitting in his rear facing car seat through the back window of my tiny Ka from his high up cab seat. I was raging, but kept calm and just kept constant spee and slowed down well in advance of junctions. I then took his license number as he roared past me at first opportunity and will be sending it with a v angry email to royal mail. Tosser. Think he was racing home to see the Andy Murray match.

Does anyone put the carseat in the fornt passenger seat? I would quite like to, to see what Sam is doing as can't see him in the back or is this more dangerous and a distraction when driving?
millington welcome to the thread

Off to watch big bro . Sending peaceful night vibes to all mums and babies. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zz

Sorry for my terrible typos. Def sleep typing wee bit here!

Sx

Right am going to attempt a message as I am having my first very cheeky small glass of wine whilst DP holds the baby. All well here, Jacob had his first jabs today , still up once in the night but very unsettled from about 5pm to 10pm. Held my friends 3 day old today and the difference is amazing he made Jacob feel like a monster baby.

kaffa - my stories there are a few, DD1 fell off sofa at about 9 weeks, DD1 hit DD2 on the head with a full cup of juice at a few weeks and I have banged all their heads off the car whilst putting them in car seats. Don't beat yourself up.

carikube - about the funeral etc and your poor cousin

alle - Lansinoh cream, and putting some milk on your nipples and letting them air for about a half hour every so often

millingtonsmummy - welcome to the thread

first1 - no advice on periods, with DD1 came back at 6 weeks, DD2 a year, DD3 just before a year but all EBF. What can I say your not so DH is a bloody idiot, one day he will wake up and realise what he has lost and you will have moved on by then.

newmomma - I have a Moby Wrap I think it is essentially the same thing as a Kari-Me. I had the same sort of thing a week or so ago, took DD3 and J to the park, J woke up as soon as we got there, left him to cry in his pram for a bit as wanted to play with DD3 on the swings for a wee while but had to leave early as he wouldn't stop crying, that was the day I got the puncture in the pram and lost a wheeltrim from the car. Have you tried phoning a BFing counsellor from La Leche League or NCT? I had one from LLL and she was fab spoke to her a few times on the phone, just nice to bend someones ear. Try to take it an hour at a time, don't plan ahead just think do what you can to get through the hour.

rachel - sympathies my piles annoying me just now as well, I had none until after DD3 as well

Hello to everyone else will try and keep up to date a bit better x

Hi everyone

First1 - Hope you are okay, thinking about you. I am having my first period at the moment and it is awful! I didn't stop post birth bleeding until last week (6 weeks 1 day) Then my period started at 6weeks 5 days. Sorry for TMI, but it is very heavy and hasn't shown any signs of getting lighter yet. I will be going to the Gp soon if it doesn't improve.

SK - Hope Jacob is alright after his jabs. Enjoy your well deserved glass of wine

Hollyoaks - I like the sound of a North and South meet up. Is anyone else interested?

Tomlin - I also like the sound of the second house. I go to York quite frequently as my DBil and DSil live there. They had there first lo at the beginning of June. So if you every fancy a coffee....?

Welcome to Millington

Kaffa - Sorry you gave yourself such a fright. When my DD1 was 6 weeks old my DH picked her up in the carseat(not strapped in) and the handle wasn't clicked into position and she catapulted out. It was awful and Dh still feels guilty (DD is 8 now) However she didn't have a mark on her and seemed very undisturbed by the whole thing. I am obsessed with checking [lots] that all staps are fastened now

ande - Rory is a lovely name

pamelat - Really pleased for your Fil and friend.

Den - I hope your appointment has gone well.

homebirth - Hope that you enjoyed baby massage.

Carikube - at all the difficulties surrounding the death. I hope that the funeral is not delayed, things are already distressing enough without anything extra being added.

pigley - Have a lovely party and picnic. Hope you are feeling better.

Sassles - Well done on getting out. I would put my DS on the front seat if I knew how to disable the airbags. Haven't got round to reading the manual yet

newmomma - Sorry I can't help, but I really do feel for you. I hope you've had a better day.

rachel - I swear by xyloproct cream! It is heaven sent

Angel - Hope you have managed to conquer the washing Everest

ML - Hope you are ok. I hate the idea that babies could have nightmares - I hope they don't. Hope you are not working too hard.

Sorry if I've missed anyone. I am tired tired tired today! Glad there is no school run tomorrow. Have lots of birthday parties for my Dc's friends this weekend, they have a much more active social life than us

Hope everyone has a lovely weekend.

Sorry about all the typos and missuse of 'there' - should have been 'their'. I am not with it tonight!

one handed typng whilt feeding, alex normally feeds contently but pulling off and on and wriggling with wind

welcome millington, my 2 year old just startig to get jealous

back to 2 and 5am wakings, thank goodness

oh fretting, best dash

Homebirth - could it be wind when sleeping and feeding? rian does same and settles once winded

Pigley - glad check went well. Rubbish about BP though.

Sassles - re postman driver. i have a mirror from mothercare (10.99) that fits to headrest of back seat facing rian, can then see rian from rearview mirror - its great.

Had appointment at hospital yest - paediatrician pretty sure it is sagital synostosis (middle suture of brain fused) so brain growing out towards front and back Means surgery to remove this fused suture and wearing a helmet afterwards to help form shape of head.

Had an ultrasound which confirmed brain developing well atleast thats something positive.

Now have to wait on neurosurgeons from edinburgh to assess and arrange op. Feel absolutely sick thinking about poor wee might going through this. i hope i can stay with him, cannot bear to be away from him.

He had students in looking at his head as his condition is rare and its one they have to look out for but more common that not it's usually odd shape due to position in womb and corrects itself as bones haven't fused. Also had to get loads of photos taken too

Doc couldn't give a time scale for op, said sooner rather than later and before his first birthday as skull will have formed by then. They all seemed pretty laid back about it all, apparently a safe procedure - bit dubious as it is surgery on his head!!!!

Thanks for all your messages...

Hope everyone has a sunshiney weekend

Den - sorry that Rian is going to have an op, nothing will stop you worrying about it because its your ds they're doing the op too. However, they operate on children's heads every day and if they say its safe you have to take it that its safe. Babies are more resilient than we are, its going to be a tough time for you but I bet Rian will sail through it without even so much as a memory when he grows up. Plus, if he's on a ward like Grace was then you will be able to stay with him. If your bf I'm sure you will have too and they have to feed you too

Pamelat - glad the night times have got slightly easier for you.

SK - hope jacob was alright after his jabs

sassles - what a moron that driver was, I hope he gets a telling off at work for it. What make of carseat do you have, I know britax have a website which tells you where you can place their car seats in different types of cars. Maybe other brands will have similar websites. You will need to turn the airbag off though.

Carikube - sorry that your family are having a hard time re the lack of will, its reminded me ours needs updating to include grace.

Pigley - glad Lucy passed her 6 week check, use your high bp as an excuse to out your feet up more (impossible I know with two little ones).

Homebirth - another baby here who jumps, whimpers and smiles in her sleep. What could they be dreaming about?

Well boring weekend here, DH is putting his dsis kitchen in all weekend so we have no plans. Got the washing machine on and have a load of ironing (again) but can't seem to bring myself to do it. Might be getting the dd's picks taken later by a family member who can blow them up onto canvas. Need to start getting packed too as we go to alton towers a week today and then off to centre parcs straight after, unbelievable excited which is quite sad but gone are the days of long haul hols in the sun.

kateyjane first period sucks doesnt it! I stopped bleeding from the birth around day 20 and then period started day 26, now on day 37 and it shows no sign of wanting to stop. Fed up now! Got my 6week check on Wed so will moan to GP about it then.

Den afraid no real knowledge of poor Rian's condition but it sounds like you're all in great hands and my positive thoughts are with you

SK hope jacob's jabs were ok! Chloe screamed the place down for hours after her pku bloods right after birth, I can only imagine her reaction to the jabs in a few weeks!

newmomma how do I switch on being able to receive messages on here? Technophobe!

(D)H had Chloe at his place today 11-2. He dropped her off and she was screaming, she hardly ever screams. He then produced her full bottle I gave her - HE DIDNT FEED HER! I 'm so pissed off. I just want to wrap her in cotton wool and never let her go.

Had checkup with consultant yesterday re 3rd degree tear. Been prescribed my now third lot of antibs, it's just not healing. Though one positive is she said the 3rd degree part of the tear was actually very superficial.

Everyone watching the footy? I'm rooting for Argentina!

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Thanks!

first1, cannot believe he didnt feed her! i really hope she gave him a terrible time until she came home, but also its so sad that she was unhappy.

i am trying the expressing for milk bank, got 30ml first time, then 50ml this morning, it seems ok but i dont know what is normal.

babymassage was lovely, she just lay there super chilled, would recommend it to any baby who doesnt mind a bit of nudity.

off to give virginia her bath now.

sorry i cant catch up with everyone, hope all is well, oh but babymirror is great idea, and we bought virginia a bubble machine today which she seemed to like.

Hi all,

Hope you're all coping with the summer heat? Poor Albie is not coping at all, he screamed all evening yesterday and I had to feed him constanltly from about 2am, sleep has been hard to come by once again. Today has been a struggle too, Albie has been dehydrated and refuses a bottle of cooled tap water, so he's been at the breast a lot but mainly taking advantage of the hind milk. Been sleeping a lot this afternoon and has cooled down considerably. A nice lady in the beer garden at the pub said that I was a good mother with the breastmilk, water and naked baby combo though so that was nice

first1 your (D)H sounds like a monster, really seems to be pushing you both away. I feel so angry and upset that he didn't even look after Chloe properly, where does this man live? I want to egg him! Hope you're both OK this evening. I feel for you with the tear. I had an episiotomy and the stitches opened after about a week and have taken ages to heal, I had to have antibs too. Went through a strict regime of lavender and tea tree baths, drying my bits carefully with the hair dryer, then putting tea tree on my pad. Seemed to help a lot, and my midwife also recommended sitting with no knickers on the sofa to let the air heal the wound. Quite undignified when my grandparents turned up unannounced!

Thanks everyone for your lovely messages, I feel reassured now that babies have accidents! They're resillient little things really, aren't they?

sassles That Royal Mail van driver sounds like a complete berk, I get terrible road rage when people do that to me. My SIL went beserk at a guy in an estate car the other week, he was tailgating her and her 4 mo baby for ages, flashing and then overtaking dangerously. So she followed him to Sainsbury's, shouted at him and he was like "what's the big problem lady", so she hurled the baby on board sign a him and shouted "THAT'S the problem you berk!" mucho applause to Marie. I think her DH was a bit shocked but I'd do the same!

kateyjane sorry to hear your period is so bad, I haven't had one yet but post natal bleeding lasted for ages.

Den Sounds like Rian will be in great hands, though I know it's no consolation when you've got to go through thre heartbreak of your LO having an op. It least it's something that's straighfoward to correct.

Well, was up most of the night with Albie and managed to catch some old episodes of Mum's the Word on Discovery Homes and Health with mumsnet founders Carrie and Justine. There was a six week old boy who wouldn't sleep and their amazing routine got him sleeping through in only a week! so I will try and comb the website for this magical method and get Albie started on a new regime this week. I am about to hit the brick wall of exhaustion so need to make every effort now to claw back my sanity. Any tips?!

Evening ladies,

It's hot hot hot in London today. DH's away on a stag weekend so I have my hands full with 2 kids and a dog. Poor baby Harry's having to fit in around everything else.

I'm trying to let Harry settle himself to sleep, particularly in the evenings. It really didn't work yesterday, lots of tears (H's, not mine), pacing round the kitchen with him ine buggy but in the end it got too close to his next feed and he was still awake. Better so far this evening, he went off about 20 minutes ago, there's still plenty of time for him to wake though before his next bottle at 10.30pm! He settles brilliantly after his feeds in the night, probably because it's dark. He's in a carry cot downstairs in the evenings as I don't want him upstairs and close to where DD is sleeping. Having both of them up is all I need!

I put him in a sleeping bag for the first time last night. He's been swaddled up to that point but has been fighting free and I think waking himself in the struggle. He slept really well - 1 feed at 2.45am and then grumbling from 5.45am but didn't feed until 7am (tbh I put a pillow over my head so the grumbles didn't escalate?!). He seemed to suck his fist a lot which I think soothed him. When do they get properly coordinated to suck their fingers/thumbs? I don't remember with DD who sucks her thumb to get herself to sleep. She always took a dummy at this age which Harry doesn't. Fingers crossed for another good night tonight.

Den thinking of you regarding the uncertainty of Rian's need for an operation. It doesn't matter how routine it is for the Docs, they're our little babies and so precious you're bound to worry.

first1 I have my first period right now (stopped feeding at 2 weeks and Harry is now 7 weeks). Initially was much heavier than normal but settled right down after a couple of days.

hollyoaks Alton Towers & Centre Parcs sounds brilliant. Who needs the hassle of a long haul holiday anyway!

Wishing you all peaceful nights!

den, glad to know there is something they can do, he'll be all right
expressing milk: everyone is different, i can hardly express anything, but my sil, press her breast and there 4 oz gone,... electric pump gets more, it's worth a try, homeb so great you expressing for the bank
pigley, love to meet, not too far, but bare in mind i don't drive, love that north/south meeting
thank you all for the tips healing breast,
got the jabs next tuesday, not sure how oscar will take it