Dec 08 Ladies - Maybe this thread they'll ALL sleep through the night at the same time!

[Beans33]

Apologies for rubbish title, couldn't think of anything - mind is totally riddled by hormones...!

Mmmm, chocolate hats. Don't talk that way, Summer.
Anyway, didn't you know that consuming cocoa-flavoured millinery is a sure-fire way to bring on labour? You're next .

Hee hee, maybe wait a few weeks then I will be down to Hotel Chocolat to see if they have any hats in!

Good to hear things are better Spot. I know it wasn't the best time but do you think you enjoyed the wedding more than you would have if you hadn't had the talk? More importantly did you have red post crying eyes? I'm assuming you did the deed after the wedding or did you get the row out of the way quickly?

WG if will help you cope with your inlaw invasion I will listen to your stories about them on this visit . Come on tell, give us a laugh, sorry sorry, of course let us know the difficulties you are going through at this time

Oh dear just discovered this post that I wrote ages ago

Oh my goodness I'm having visions of chocolate hats, those 10 gallon hats or whatever they are called that cowboys wear.

I predicted a girl! Do I win?

Just had a lovely day at the spa, whoever suggested it (actually I think it was more than one of you) was a genius. First day in ages where I haven't had to think about anything except relaxing. I went to the Sanctuary and tried out the swing, which was great. You do have to like the colour teal and the smell of sanctuary products as you can't get away from either.

Just had a call from DH to say Max is under the weather. Feeling guiltily pleased he held off till this evening so I didn't havd to cancel. I think it's the same bug William had so he should be better after a night's rest.

latest from mentalist mil: "you know, i've started putting my cutlery in the drawer that way. i don't know why. funny, isn't it?"

hysterical.

more soon...

WTF! I hope you didn't empty your toaster crumb tray last saturday. That will give her something to do.

oh, and i am sure i predicted a girl

just a quickie to say hurrah Beans and a big welcome to Prudence Everything ticking over here, off to our birthday midweek hol tomorrow, have told my boss about #2 (she asked when I would be putting in the paperwork about end of the graduated return year and I said I wouldn't be...) and she was very excited and didn't sigh in a "what the heck am I meant to do now?" kind of way which is a big relief!

sorry for big absence, I keep having to put the computer on a high shelf as dd has worked out how to open up the laptop and then repeatedly press the on/off button which means it goes a bit barmy and this means very little opportunity to MN double

Hi all,
Not been posting much as have been grumpy and tired and fed up. DH ill all weekend which meant he stayed in bed most of the weekend, making me majorly pissed off and not very charitable even though he was clearly really ill. He has to work abroad this week so I was hoping I might get a bit of a break over the weekend as I am shattered and run down! And now DS has conjunctivitis (caught off DH) so can't go to nursery tomorrow, grrrrrrr.

Generally PISSED OFF!! Still don't know if we are definitely moving house. Still haven't exchanged.

WG can you come back with in-law stories to cheer me up please? Or tell us about how annoying el-smuggo was?

Spot your talk sounds good...good to get things out in open I guess even if it does involve tears and drama.

jj hurray for telling work!

beansy beans we want that birth story. Hee hee, not that you don't have better things to do. I hope she is going to be called Prudence for sure now, we are all used to it now! Pru-pru poo-poo, tee hee, that is funny about Whizz!!

effie glad you had a good day at the spa!

rubes glad the holiday is going better now! Sounded super stressful on the journey down. I hope your DH pampers you on your return in exchange for all this ferrying him to races, etc. Tell him to stay off the bike and look after you for a bit!

Well done Beans & little Prudence! Fantastic news! Hope you are all well.

Soz for lack of personals & juicy biographical details (rest assured there are none) but got to get to work. Will post when I can but hello everybody.

SL - just for you, el-smuggo was pretty smuggo, i can tell you. she is also not letting anyone apart from her, her dh and her mother hold the divine child. she is also not leaving the house for 40 days, a la biblical/primitive cultures. she is having a right proper lying-in. when asked how they are, she and her husband are saying how they have always lived life in 2D before having the divine child - now they are living in 3D, the experience has been so amazing.

i know it is awful of me, i just want her to be sleep-deprived, frustrated, angry and grumpy, only for a bit. instead of this all-pervading smuggo perfection. i'm sure she will, but she'll never let on.

it is funny, because she is this holistic nutritionist, only eats sea kelp etc, and every time my dh sees her dh at the library, he is always looking guilty and stuffing a muffin down him. ahahahahahaha.

i have a little revelation... we are a tiny, weeny, incy wincy bit pregnant. i'm not quite sure how we managed it - we're only doing the deed about every 3 weeks, but just when i started getting checked out for weird periods and pcos, my periods appear to have settled down and it just didn't come, didn't come, so i tested and the line was so faint 2 days ago. today it was stronger. so. gulp. we're booking ourselves in for an 8 week scan and aren't telling people until we've seen a heartbeat (miscarriage history), so please no fb references.

i suppose i am re-clackered! not quite sure what to make of it. am going to get some loft extension quotes. while we are also thinking of doing a kitchen extension. we've got no space! bloody hell. it is great, though. fingers crossed it doesn't go tits up.

i was quite looking forward to properly trying, though. with luck we don't have to, as it were.

gulp.

OH MY GOD!!!!! Congratulations WG!!!. So so pleased

Wow! Congratulations WG!!! I am thrilled that your dodgy cycles didn't prove a problem in the end. I will keep my fingers crossed for an uneventful first trimester.

Can I ask whether el smuggo has a clean house? Only I have an el smuggo friend who had her DD1 the day after I had mine. Her home birth was magical, she breastfed for 3 years, they never used nappies because they were so in tune with their baby that she communicated her elimination needs from day 1. She will be home schooled by her uber intellectual (& unfeasibly attractive) mother... But their house is a tip. Cleaning just isn't spiritually engaging enough for them. When I visit I cheer myself by making loud comments to DD1 about those little hairs on the floor being called pubes and the green stuff around the sink being called mould ("I know you have never seen it before darling, there isn't any in our house, it's mould and it's yucky".).

Oh and I predicted Pru would be female. I had a momentary wobble at the last minute but long term I have predicted repeat genders for all our second
timers. That means I agree with SL and Spot that they have little willies growing inside them.

Wow, congratulations WG. Fingers crossed for a super speedy first trimester.

Oh my god wg hooray! So exciting! That's such good news -has cheered me up! El-smuggo sounds crackers. Completely.

Oh WG I'm soooooo so so so pleased, I started having a little tear and then as I read on thought about how hard it must be for as you have to be wary, but you just sound like you want to be excited. Well anyway after Reading your post I'm in tears. I've hope with all my heart this little one sticks abs imagine in about 9 months time will be a virtual littleWG friend for our LOs.

But speaking about your loft extensions, kitchen work yadda yadda, does that mean DH got the TV thing for BE?!

40 days lawks alive, well I just hope it's amazing summer and she misses out on nice weather. I did do the lie in with both boys but only really for a week and the only went out for little walks until 2 weeks but after that it's not possible. I wanted to show off my bub to the world and also it wouldn't be fair to DS1 to stay indoors all day. Believe me when they have another they will understand the meaning of 3D! My impatience and temper certainly takes on a third even 4th dimension at times. A friend recently posted on FB how her 1 month old had slept through and she hoped it continued. I couldn't help hoping it didn't, is that bad?

Lovely sunny day here. DS2 & I have been for a swim with the buns & oldies sesh, & fed the animals at the farm. Sadly because I haven't taken him for a couple of months he's become a bit scared with the animals, after initially being quite bold with them. He still roars at them but from a reasonable distance only and behind a fence. He's asleep now so I'm finally going to have a coffee, it's 11!!! So late for a coffee, the sacrifices I make for my children.

Avo I laughed at your comments about your dirty friends house, pubes on the floor gross! I would love to home educate our kids & DH has been encouraging me to but to be truthful I know what would happen, we would just go to the park & coffee shops all the time and do nothing constructive. I think you need to be quite an organised, motivated person to home educate. I would one day before DS1 goes to highschool take them both out of school for a couple of months and do a long trip around Australia with them. Then I would have to home educate for a bit.

Right I think I need another coffee.

WG!!!! Congratulations, that's absolutely wonderful news and so happy for you! Will say a few strong baby prayers for you and also have a sly chuckle at your smuggo pal and the reality check that she'll soon be getting

off to put dd down for nap, back in a mo

Trued to post earlier but MN ate my posting buttons! Really.

Fantastic news WG, so pleased for you. Glad you got an early scan as well.

Avo: I did laugh at your earth mother with the dirty house! I admit to being a bit slack on the housework front, but I draw the line at mould.

Veggie: I woiuld be incapable of home edding as well. I would do it if there were no other option, but I can't see it being a pleasant experience for anyone! I do think it can work really well with the right environment though.

Right, I need to post this before those buttons disappear again...

Effie I had that too, how bizarre.

So, just to say again, Hurrah WG! and Welcome Prudence and well done Beans!

Spot, it sounds like your talk had a good end result even if it was painful along the way - these things usually are, but well done for being brave and getting on with it. How was the wedding in the end?

LadyT your DPs sleep problems are scary. Is it the sort of condition that might be helped by hypnosis if there are 'issues' that are trying to sort themselves at night, or is it more of a physiological than a psychological thing?

Mom thanks for updating us, you are so brave about the whole situation, will keep fingers crossed that your football is more successful than England's (hmm, not sure if the analogy will stretch that far!)

Avo/Urbane, we're doing a personal development doodah at work which invovles thinking of the job we'd like to have in 10 years (or looking at job ads for things we'd love to do) and then trying to find ways to gain the necessary experience or skills within our current jobs, working with a mentor. It's a pilot thing and there are 5 of us on it, excpet of course mine's been on hold for 2 years but it's been really interesting and useful in a way as things have been suggested that I'd never have thought of myself. Avo as you say, so often the moves up the job ladder involve management and strategic planning and all that rather generic and less interesting stuff, I want to be a librarian who sees books and readers rather than the inside of an office all day!

NJAN I did laugh at DS1 leaving home because you'd been silly!

rubes what an eventful trip - hope you're having a good journey home right now and no more unhappinesses.

veggie yay for home haircuts, I do mine as well as it's easier than trying to faff about getting an appointment and then not fainting when they present you with the bill. DH just turns up at the barbers and is out in 15 mins I've had the same haircut for about 5 years now so just havea proper cut every 6 months or so and hack away at it in the bathroom mirror in between times

That sounds like a really good scheme, JJ, and it's great you've identified that you don't want to be sucked into management, I know so many people who've see it as "inevitable" and lost all enthusiasm for their chosen field.

AvoI sounds like your friend except for the good stuff. I am a scummy slattern and while T is asleep I am sat here MNing and eating my way though a box of Terry's All Gold (that my mum bought DP for Father's Day, so not even mine) while dishes lie mouldering in the sink.

The party (not a wedding but felt like it, was basically a marquee and loads of dancing) was really good, and for some reason I seem to be able to cry loads and yet half an hour later look relatively normal so was spared lots of concerned looks that night.

SL, that's really rubbish about your situation, what shitty timing . Have you got much planned for this week? Have you got any drops for the conjunctivitis or are you letting nature take its course?
And what's the hold up on the house? Is it the vendors?

Going for my scan in half an hour, we didn't have any of the tests first time round but are going to this time so feels a bigger deal. Am feeling quite rubbish, got a bad cold, T has been playing silly buggers at night and now I'm sick from eating too many chocolates.

Oh and I'm getting slightly cold feet about the flat, turns out the solicitor seems to have got it wrong about the renting out situation (which in itself is a bit worrying, looks from the lease as though it's fine so long as you get written permission), but am so enjoying having the garden....I think we're also slightly regretting putting in the asking price straight away so we're going to have a really close look at the survey and see if we can knock anything off reasonably.

Oh WG that's lovely lovely news, thinking all the best sticky thoughts for you. Why isn't there a [madly happy beaming] emoticon when you need one eh?

Sybs It was you who said you've got Beans address wasn't it? Are you on FB? Am I being thick and not only are you on FB but we're even friends on it? Can I ask any more silly questions?

Congratulations, WG! And congratulations to JJ too (sorry I'm so behind the times).

Good luck with the scan, Spot.

Hello to everyone else.