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Dec 08 Ladies - Maybe this thread they'll ALL sleep through the night at the same time!

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Beans33 · 01/06/2010 17:04

Apologies for rubbish title, couldn't think of anything - mind is totally riddled by hormones...!

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Are your children’s vaccines up to date?
traceface · 09/06/2010 12:36

well I've just taken a drive out to the village where that house is - and I think it's a bit far really. Took over 20 minutes and it's very up and downy roads. Village is pretty but didn't win my heart, so I can stop lusting after that one now!
There's one which I've been oggling for weeks, this one, which has the most amazing garden (the other one didn't have a garden at all, and the girls love having a garden) and is only a mile or so from where we are now, so no change to my commute. ALso it's in the village where Lucy's school is so we could walk to school and church rather than driving. But...it's way over out price range and actually doesn't give us an extra bedroom/ study, which is what we could do with. Still really like it though. Hope I'm not boring you - just thought there were a few vicarious property shoppers on here!
Jam glad to hear your pox are subsiding a little. We're having party issues too - It's Lucy's in a few weeks so we booked the village hall (near potential house 2!) for 3-5 one saturday, bu someone else on her class has booked a soft play party for his birthday 4-6 the same day. Grr. Quite a few of their friends overlap, so I think I'm going to change ours to 11-1. She's paid out a lot more money than me so much easier for me to change than her, but what a faff to now send out a new lot of invitaions with a change of time on them!
Invis lovely to hear fom you. Are you ok? You sound a bit down. Hope things are alright. Don't feel you need to be here all the time - just post as and when the mood takes you. Take care.

Beans33 · 09/06/2010 12:55

hey all! I've got a dongle (think I mentioned it) and internet is v v slow as a result. God, it sounds really dodgy, a dongle. Some kind of man dangly bit!

Anyway, can't be long as thing keeps cutting out! But am so keen for a clapham meet up, or if anyone wants to venture into deepest, darkest streatham, they're more than welcome!!! The house is fantastic and got a really quite big garden - couldn't be more chuffed with it!

Kiwi, I was thinking of your changing bag the other day - mine's bust again! Would love to get my mitts on it, although would rather see you and DD!!! I really hope things settle down of a night for you soon. Hideous. I would go cold turkey too. Even if it takes longer than 3 nights, it will eventually teach her that she isn't going to be fed if she shouts for it!!

JJ - CONGRATULATIONS! Such exciting news. One of my friends has just tole me she's up the duff too - and two others had a baby yesterday - it's all go on the nipper front!!!

Lady - definitely get the rash checked out asap.

House sale STILL hasn't gone through - apparently they want to exchange this week. haha. We were meant to complete on Monday FFS!!! Assholes.

Hopefully soon.

Big love and will check in when I can.

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Rubena · 09/06/2010 13:14

Hello Beans!
That dongle seems to be working out! All babies here too - a friend is going in for section in a couple of days and literally 20 mins ago another friend told me she's 5 weeks clackered! It's in the air...
I'd be up for seeing your new place - as long as Houdini can't escape - I'm too big, uncomfortable and tired to be running after him or dealing with his meltdowns! Your new place is easier for me as it's nearer to where I used to live.

Nice house Trace. Makes me realize how much you get for your money when you aren't near London
Still haven't ventured out for Rennie's but still suffering.... Just waiting for ds to wake and have lunch then will head out slowly. Oops he's awake...

Rubena · 09/06/2010 13:15

This is really sad I know. But I'm excited about Big Brother tonight C'mon there's gotta be someone here who watches it? DH said "see ya in 12 weeks"

waitinggirl · 09/06/2010 13:17

been lurking, and like invisible not wanting to post, but can't resist a massive congratulations for our dark horse, JJ. well done, lady! so so pleased for you - our cambridge contingent are all so fertile!

JumpJockey · 09/06/2010 13:26

Avo so glad to hear dd is on the mend, poor mite. Temperatures are the one thing that really scare me as they can be quite unwell without you knowing why. Your description of her boiling hot reminded me of the baby bath stuff we have for dd, it says "Get mummy or daddy to rub this all over your wet little body" which always makes me a bit , not quite the right turn of phrase I feel!

Kiwi, do you have any kind of music associated with bedtime? What I mean is, we play music through dd's listener at bedtime as part of her routine. So if she wakes up and burbles, we put the music on and usually within a few minutes she's back to sleep. The clock things I think say from about 3 upwards, when they can start understanding what the picture means. But you could always give it a try. Rubs right about trying to get any sleep changes done while DH is away and you've got some help on hand!

trace that converted chapel is beautiful! And what a stunning village too, you live in such a gorgeous part of the country [fenland dullness envy] But the other one is also lovely, what a garden and it would be lovely to walk to school and church. How great that P is on the mend, poor spotty lass. Bananas really a re a bit of a cure-all!

Jam phew as well for the spots. Is chickenpox something that could potentially be vaxed against I wonder? It seems to cause them such misery and the issues for unborn babies are such a worry too.

beans sorry the house sale is being a big faff. But any pics of your new place for us to lust over the garden?! Good old dongles even if it does sound really rude!

well thanks all for the good wishes - the weirdest part is that a very good pal (who does most of dd's babysitting!) phoned yesterday morning to say that she's expecting as well, I didn't say anything because we only found out ourselves in the afternoon but they'll be around at about the same time. We think I'm about 5 weeks (gosh a bit bold announcing at such early days) so due in Feb. We weren't exactly trying, but neither were we actively trying not to. I feel bad admitting to this because I know there are ladies in this group who have found it difficult to get PG, and also it's so soon after MoM's loss. But I had to tell someone!

I think this time we'll find out what the baby is, so as to be able to tell dd she'll be having a little brother or a little sister. Also to be able to think of names in a slightly more organised manner than last time!

JollyBear · 09/06/2010 13:42

Afternoon all,

trace That chapel is gorgeous! I would LOVE to live there. The other garden is fantastic though and room for a little shed/study at the bottom of the garden. Good news that P feels hungry today.

DH bought DD this book which may be of interest to the clackered. There isn't a story to it, you sort of add it yourself when explaining what is going on. There are pictures of various babies, mums and dads, brothers and sisters etc. DD and I were looking at it last night and I thought it might be useful for those expecting another. For example, it shows a small baby crying and being bf.

Anyway, back to work. I'm writing up the report as the project finishes in 8 weeks. No more job for me, eek!

traceface · 09/06/2010 14:07

back again! P got her dummy and poinetd upstairs so I've put her to bed again - but I can hear clattering so I think this will be a quickie...
We've just taken the dog for a walk down the street - and if you're thinking we don't have a dog, you're right! We've just taken this dog for a walk down the street Good job I don't have any kind of stret cred or reputaion to uphold She got a bit cross with it though and screwed her face and her fists up when it kept falling over!
wg are you ok? Have you had another sesh today or is it not weekly? Thinking of you.
Beans sorry the dongle is frustratingly slow, but at least we get little bursts of you rather than having to mourn your complete absence.
I was supposed to have my next CBT thing today but obv had to cancel due to the pox. Doh! I've rearranged it but the soonest we can do it is 30th June. Ages away!
Pubes it's funny what you say about house prices. DH and I were grumbling that being in York costs so much and if we moved out to some of the villages we'd get so much more for our money! But we're quite attached to Lu's school and our church and friends so are a bit reluctant to go too far. But seriously if you go south a little towards Selby you can get a gorgeous 4 bed detached with garden for £250,000!

traceface · 09/06/2010 14:12

oh and jb that book looks ace!
Now if anyone got (or gets with the next DC) a wonderful gift for the LO's birth, cold you let me know? My SIL is due in September and I'd like to get her something really special (but not too pricey ), rather than just clothes/ toys etc. My mind has gone blank and I need inspiriation. Admittedly this is a pressing issue - I'm just thinking ahead

TheInvisibleHand · 09/06/2010 14:47

JJ - there is a vaccination for chicken pox - its standard in the US, but the NHS doesn't dole it out. I think you can get it privately or if you are in certain risk groups.

Beans - good luck with getting the sale done and most importantly, enjoy the fabulous new place. I am in awe that you managed to get it all done while being so clackered up!

Kiwi - sorry for the crap nights and that DD has decided to play up just as your DH is off. Just do what you need to do even if that means ignoring the wailing for a few nights.

Trace - love the look of the houses, good luck.

Trace - thanks for asking, I am a bit down tbh. Work has gone seriously tits up over the last few weeks (complicated, but boss and rest of team are leaving to go somewhere else, but without me), so am facing the real prospect of being unemployed in a few weeks. This is seriously scary as DH has no income to speak of. Other than that, its just grim waiting it out here. I know its pathetic when its just a job, but I can hardly talk about the whole thing without dissolving into a puddle of tears. I do know that it will all come out in the wash and we did have a lovely week in Cornwall last week just enjoying the DCs, which reminds me how lucky we are really. But in the meantime, life feels a bit crap.

JollyBear · 09/06/2010 14:53

trace That is very funny, walking a plastic dog down the road! How about a book for the LO? A nice hardback they can treasure in the future perhaps. Without wanting to look like I have shares in J&A Ahlberg... this is quite special. I'll have a think of other things.

Must get back to work, honestly, I need a slap!

JumpJockey · 09/06/2010 15:04

oh invis lovely. Of course it's not just a job, there's much more to it than that - it's about supporting your family and having a separate identity in a way that you've been used to for a long time. Could your employers move you to a different team once the others leave? (why are they all going? Sounds a bit odd tbh) Sorry for insensitive quesitons, I'm sure you've thought about all this already.

JumpJockey · 09/06/2010 15:04

oh invis lovely. Of course it's not just a job, there's much more to it than that - it's about supporting your family and having a separate identity in a way that you've been used to for a long time. Could your employers move you to a different team once the others leave? (why are they all going? Sounds a bit odd tbh) Sorry for insensitive quesitons, I'm sure you've thought about all this already.

EffiePerine · 09/06/2010 15:05

Invisible: sorry about the job. It all sounds worrying and generally rubbish. Are the other 2 posts looking promising? I think it was one in-house and one with lots of travelling?

TheInvisibleHand · 09/06/2010 15:28

Thanks and JJ no need to apologise for asking. Not unusual for people to move as a team in my line of work. They are going to a place where I used to work and for various reasons wouldn't want to go back to, but I am finding not being invited to join them kind of hurtful. My boss and I go back a long way - I have been working with her directly for 8 years and I first came across her 12 years ago. So as one of our clients but it, its a bit of a "divorce". And I guess like most divorces, there is a fair amount of recrimination all round. Unfortunately what I do is a bit specialist, so no possibility of being redeployed where I am (or building up a new team here).

Effie - worryingly, neither of the job prospects worked out (although I think my contact for the travelley one was more upset than I was, she has been incredibly good about the whole thing and is trying to see if she can use her contacts to fix something for me elsewhere). There are a couple of other irons in the fire (I put in one application this morning), but I just don't know how it will go. I am sure there will be something eventually, but it all goes slowly as I have got sufficiently expensive (i.e. long in the tooth!) to find something easily.

EffiePerine · 09/06/2010 17:03

I think you're dealing with it all admirably. I'd still be huddled under the duvet, not rattling off job applications. I'm sure something will come up soon and you now have a good idea what it out there.

Veggiemummy · 09/06/2010 17:46

Invis I'm so sorry your having to deal with all this, it's the uncertainty of it all that makes it the hardest. If things are winding up around you, will you be offered a redundancy? Wish I could say something magical to make you feel better but all I can say is a feeble I'm thinking of you (will pop over the old White light) & please post as much as you can.

JJ on the CP jab (here i go again with health facts). Your DH could probably tell you, but the NHS did a feasibility study into the vaccine and decided that a) it's efficacy was not quite up to their standards (it is taken up in a lower than satisfactory number of cases dont ask me how many as my SAHM brain can't remember) and it isn't garanteed to last into adulthood where contracting CP can be most harmful. The other problem is that if you reduce significantly the incidence of CP you will have a huge number of adults suffering from Shingles. 90% of adults in the UK carry the herpes varicella virus because they had CP as children. If they are exposed to enough people with CP during their life their body will keep it in check by bumping up it's antibody count. But if not it will reawaken like a cheeky buggy beastie and cause lots of nasty cases of shingles, waaay worse than childhood CP and incredibly costly to the old NHS & not to mention the economy. You can get the vaccine over 2 doses for about £120. I know this because I made DH get it as I wasn't going to be looking after 3 children sick with CP. Thankfully his jabs worked. If you want to save your LO the pain of CP go for the vaccine apart from the reasons above there were no other concerns about the safety of the vaccine however, bare in mind that it may not last into adulthood so you might need to bug them to get done again when they are older.

Gosh I do go on don't I.

Trace I loved the old church, I really like places where the main living area is upstairs. Though the lack of garden would be a problem. I couldn't view the 2nd propery? Are you seriously looking? Would be lovely to 'look' with you, keep the options coming.

DS2 has been quite the little nightmare all day. He refused point blank to nap, I even left him at one point to cry but DH went straight in and rescued him!!! We had words (well I shouted some words). He has been really squeally now but has had a good dinner and I'm settling him to sleep. I had to go have my neck thing appointment at 5pm and was worried he'd be a big monsterous but DH said he was on the edge but ok. DS1 is getting a little spoilt tonight because he got a bit yelled at by DH & I because he got upset when DS2 wanted to rip apart his train track but refused to move his play to his bedroom. I think DS2's squealing really does all our heads in and makes us a bit shouty.

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LadyThompson · 09/06/2010 22:19

Think this'll be a long 'un. Right, had a lovely lunch with Katie and her DD and indeed her dog We had the beer garden basically to ourselves and apart from the English weather it was all very nice. Katie, I got the trains all mixed up so DP came to collect me but my penance was working on the house for a few hours?

JJ ? many, many congrats. How super! So when are we talking, roughly? Next Feb? Will that fit in with your ideas re: work? I am disappointed to hear your DH?s practice aren?t in a position to take on another partner at the mo ? hopefully that will change.

Invis, I am so sorry to hear about your employment woes. I tell you what, they are bonkers not to take someone as smart as you ? a plague on ?em. I realise that the very specialised nature of your work makes it harder, (DP?s BIL works in a specialised area of the law too ? reinsurance, and he?s had some ups and downs ? he works in Bermuda now) but above all, don?t be down on YOURSELF. All you can do is make long lists of practical forays you can make for now, cross your fingers and try not to panic. Any iron you can chuck in the vaguest fire is worth it. Hang in there.

Yay, Beans, you are in. First of the housemovers, first of the clackers?

NJAN ? you mentioned the other day about possibly going for another baby ? wow! You sounded more chipper, which is lovely. I was thinking about the driving again today. The minute I get my hands on a chunk of money, I think I am going to go for it.

Veg ? I forgot to thank your DS1 for the lovely compliment the other day As for DD and her frustration/bad behaviour being linked to lack of words, she actually has about 30 but they mainly consist of nouns like ?key?, ?car?, and ?banana?. Perhaps when she can finally say ?Sod off Mummy? she will stop pinching me. Although at this rate, Mummy will be the last word she learns. Like other tots on here, she flatly refuses to say it.

ZJ, your pics from the meet up were really cute. But where are the camera shy mummies?

DaisyD, your day with your Mum the other day sounded lovely. How is your DH now, after his Mum?s birthday?

SL ? blimey, your DH?s employers have got his nose to the grindstone. It sounds wholly unreasonable. But as others have said, in this climate, one is scared to do anything other than tow the line.

Sybs, your swimming pool deception was straight out of a sitcom I think Mondays and Wednesdays are your good days, but what about this Friday? Alistair is at Kingston Crown and we are staying in London on Friday night as we are at a World Cup party on Sat, so depending on what time he?s on and what time we get there, I might be in town on Fri and coming in from a southerly direction. Rubes (I already mentioned this to you), Kiwi, Beans? Urbane, I think you are free on a Friday? However, I am slightly jumping the gun as not sure about timings yet.

Avo, I am sorry the cuts are contributing to making work so tough. (and you Urbaneski ? must be so dispiriting). I think your DH?s timescale sounds very sensible but I know what it?s like if you have sort of made a decision and want to act on it. How is your poor DD1 now? That sounds so frightening. Oh, and I have tried to contact CD twice about paying her for my share of the wedding babysitter but she hasn?t replied! I hope she is just busy and it?s not that I have offended her. I am envious of your potential trip to Alfie?s Antiques to check out wedding clothes for her, such a wonderful place.

Spot ? great you are feeling more at home in Brighton. And good you are on the list for a counsellor, at least. What?s happening with the house thing ? are you deffo moving? The course wasn?t linked to the ones I have done before ? I am doing them because I just don?t want it to look like I have spent this time rocking a baby and picking my nose in the country?should I ever return to the world of those employed outside the home. As to the book, thanks so much for asking but I am having kittens, puppies and other baby animals about it. It was out with eight publishers and I have had four rejections so far. Now, that?s not too bad (I have sent many a book to lots more publishers than that before it was picked up) but it FEELS so scary. I was pretty confident about it before, and I am an experienced agent so ought to know what I am on about. But whilst the publishers who have rejected it have been complimentary, all their reasons for not buying it have been different! So I am pretty despondent about it tbh. And about my career prospects in general ? have had a few late nights with DP about it recently, wondering what the heck I am going to do. He is worried as I am usually the positive and bullish member of the team. I have got to calm down, think carefully, and just WORK HARDER. It?s the only thing that wins through in the end. But I am just having a wobble at the moment, particularly as the solicitors for my DH?s estate haven?t sorted all that out yet and it?s hugely stressful, and if I don?t get some money soon, in the next 2-3 months at the most, I am going to have a BIG problem. Sorry for that rant! I feel a bit fragile and irritable at the mo - not usual self at all.

Trace, I absolutely love looking at houses, so keep them coming! Crossing fingers P is on the improve.

Jam ? so pleased things are improving for the boys. Gosh, you all had it rough.

JB ? I will check that book out ? thanks. I think it was Effie who mentioned There?s a House in my Mummy, and I may get that too.

Dora?sB ? glad you checked in, it?s good to hear you are ok.

I know I have missed people but I am absolutely whacked and conscious that I have gone on and on and ON. WG, hope you are ok. Oh, and Kiwi?crossing fingers for a better night for you tonight. I have got Big Brother on. Jeepers - it?s the usual freak show, I see?

Rubena · 09/06/2010 22:54

I of course watched BB but sort of started browsing eBay towards the end and didn't catch the end really. Some of the people looked quite 'typical' though

Lady - further to our text convo, I can pop in on Friday too if anyone is up for a visit at home? Or a meet up at an enclosed child friendly venue? Would Friday work for anyone?

I managed to get some gaviscon (aah relief) today and also some Medised at Sainsbury's although won't be using it unless ds really needs it of course.

We have one of those ebergy meters which came in the mail today, and dh is running around turning things on and off like on the advert to see how much we are using - he is quite taken by it

KiwiPanda · 10/06/2010 06:35

Morning all. Last night as hideous as expected - DD went mental at bedtime too which is a worrying new development.. Also woke howling at 2.30,4.30... And at which point I went downstairs and lay on the sofa (where I can still hear her but it's not so close..) and must have drifted off to be woken by her at 6.30. She must therefore have eventually given up and slept for some time after 4.30 or there's no way I would have stayed asleep. So I guess not too bad all in all. Bet my neighbours love me right now though...

EffiePerine · 10/06/2010 07:08

Kiwi: sod the neighbours. They always hear less than you think. Besides, they are getting more sleep than you. Would you be happy settling DD this eve then decamping to the sofa for the night? With the laptop if necessary! It's hard, some children are better with periodic visits for reassurance, with others it winds them up and they are better being left to get on with things. Or could you rope in someone to do the night shift while you get some sleep? I feel for you, ds1 took his turn to disturb us last night, it was only 2 brief wakings but I still managed to oversleep and miss two trains. Oops.

EffiePerine · 10/06/2010 07:10

Plus (sorry for babbling on) would you consider Avo's Mrs Sleep? If only to take over for a bit!

EffiePerine · 10/06/2010 07:14

Sorry, me again! The mental at bedtime thing - could you change the routine a bit to signify a change? I found DS1 needed a longer routine as he got older, it took him a bit longer to wind down. So we have bathtime (which takes ages with 2), stories then songs as I cuddle DS2 and give him a feed. DS2 still howls a bit when I put him in the cot, but for the last few nights the boys have been playing some game which involves lots of noise and giggling, then silence... until DS1 wakes up demanding a wee.

JamInMyWellies · 10/06/2010 09:29

Oh Kiwi, agreeing with Effie on this one. Take a longer bedtime wind down. Also double sod your neighbours.

I agree with whoever said cold turkey on the night feedings will prob help. I have a friend in the US who is taking herself on what she called a weaning vacation (she is a bit hippy) her son is 2 and a bit now and still wakes vv reg for boobie. SO she is leaving the children with her DH and buggering off to Mexico to some yoga retreat.

We have found DS2 gets more upset if we try go and settle him in the middle of the night or early morning so we leave him to bellow. He soon gets the message.

Sorry rambling hiding in the toilet Best get back to it. I left the boys with felt tip pens and drawing paper. I wonder what they have coloured in

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