Dec 08 Ladies - Maybe this thread they'll ALL sleep through the night at the same time!

[Beans33]

Apologies for rubbish title, couldn't think of anything - mind is totally riddled by hormones...!

Morning!

Am very cheery this noting because Operation Sleep Later worked (for last night at least). DD2 woke at 6.55 instead of 5.55. I didn't even do the 3am medised wake. All that was different was that I reinforced the crack den with towels blocking the tiny gap at the bottom of the door and I used white noise. Dud you try it Kiwi?

I had another depressing day at work yesterday. I started dreaming about what I could do with a career break. I thought to keep me sane I could get involved with local events.

I had one idea to contact the Council events team and volunteer my time to organize something around the Olympics at our local park which is always packed with kids. With careful planning we could get everyone involved in a neighbourhood opening ceremony with all the kids parading round the park representing different countries and cultures. Then we could have a mini Olympic sports day and raise money for local charities. The point being I can think of loads of ways to keep sane and stimulated while bringing the kids up at home. DH is supportive but wants me to sit on the idea 'til Oct. If I am still keen then I can apply to leave in January when DD1 starts school and we move. That way I won't have rushed into anything.

Sorry for that stream of conciousness. I can't tell anyone in RL what I am thinking as it can't get back to my work. So I am afraid you guys are my only outlet

Rubes - They do sleep much more deeply as they get older. DD1 used to wake at the lightest touch but now, aged 3 and 3/4, nothing wakes her. I can pick her up, jiggle her, talk in her ear etc. DD2 rarely wakes her. I am not sure what age her sleep changed though. Maybe 2?

Oh that's great news Avo on the sleepy children thing. I remember db's girls falling asleep on my bed every night when they were here and he would just carry them to bed talking to me on the way while getting a drink etc and i'd be terrified they would wake, but never did!
Also great idea regarding working at home....

Still got power.... better have another coffee

oh and great news on the crackdenification reinforcment! ds has (touch wood) gone back to his normal wake up but also his teeth are ok so perhaps that was the problem for us... dunno but where's kiwi?
Kiwi hope you have been getting more sleep. We need to sort out a meet up day

Rubs I could never transfer DS1 but now we can get him up our of the car, trailer anywhere he might have fallen asleep and he doesn't wake. DH even stands him up at 10pm to do a late night wee and he doesn't wake. DS2 on the other hand just fell asleep in the bike seat and transferred easily into his bed. He is a much deeper sleeper all round though.

Rubs I'm so pleased you managed to get a coffee. I've just taken DS2 for a swim and we had a lovely time, I do love that time with him as it's just he and I together one to one. He loves swimming around and it's a parent and baby & 55+ only session so he is surrounded by other kids and grandmas he loves it. But I need another coffee. I was going to do an exercise session now but I really need coffee might take might bike out this arvo if it stays sunny.

Avo that sound amazing that kids olympic event idea. Most councils would have special funding for it. I have to say I'm a bit lazy, I keep sane by meeting the other expat mums for coffee or beach beers. My top tip is get back to doing a bit of stuff for yourself, like nights out with friends or whatever hobbies you like doing. I'm joining a boom club which I'm quite looking forward to.

Im helping out as a child watcher tomorrow for a class excursion for DS1's class. I'm taking DS2 but he has to stay in the pushchair which will be a nightmare as it's city farm and he'll go mental wanting to get out and roar at the animals.

Right coffee.

Morning all!

Well, we're in! I'm so sorry to have been offline. No broadband until 22nd June, but have purchased a dongle. Sounds distinctly rude, but seems to work on internet!

We had a fairly easy move in and to give DH his due, he did a brilliant job of getting us in. I am now totally exhausted, unfortunately! But still trying to finish last boxes and furniture sorted etc! All a bit tiring - can't wait for bedtime every night!

The house is amazing, though.

Right, must go - am trying to get the house sale sorted still. Sorry! And I haven't had time to do personals, or read through to catch up. Massive apologies and big love. Just wanted to touch base.

xxxx

Hello everyone,

I was wondering about Mom this morning. Did she come back after her scan on Friday? I hope all was OK and she is just resting up.

trace I hope P has improved. I feel for her so much, spots around her bottom and in her mouth , what a horrible experience for her.

jam Are you still holed up with the pox?

beans Lovely to hear from you. Glad all has gone well with the move.

Sorry for the very short catch up. Must get to work. The For Sale sign went up yesterday, eeek!

Glad everything went OK Beans, I guess it was always going to be tiring but being so late in clackerdom for you is extra tiring. Are you sleeping ok? Dongle is another one of those IT geek names that was used precisely because it sounds rude. It's double entendre(sp) can be found on geeky laptop stickers and T-shirts.

JB how exciting, have you spoken to your parents about not getting involved in renos. Are your PIL's still down on it?

Well after his swim DS2 slept 3 hours this afternoon. He woke after 3 so I can assume he'll be late to bed. Plus the weather has turned nasty here so no going out to exercise, will hopefully do a yoga sesh instead (if I can get this popcorn to digest in time). Daisy how's it going for you?

Mom if your lurking come back when you want but...well I miss you.

DH has to go to Jersey on Sunday to Wednesday, bum bum.

daisy with DS yesterday

Me: Where's Grandad?
Points at grandad (who he sees every couple of months or so)
Where's Granny?
Points at Granny
Where's Mummy?
NOTHING.

THE LITTLE BUGGER!!!! He's just sodding teasing me now.

beans hurrah for moving going well. Time to have that baby now!! are you officially full-term i.e. 37 weeks yet? And hurrah for your dongle.

MoM hope all is OK.

I had one mama today but it's so random when he says it that I can't really be sure that he means me by it! He happily says 'dada' and 'di-day' for AK but just kind of stares at me. If DH says give this to mama he does deliver whatever it is to me, so I think he knows who I am.

I did a full on yoga session and I'm so chuffed I managed to execute all the shoulder stand poses. This weeks session is our last of the course and we are doing head stands and this weird foetal postion one where you kind of tie yourself up in a knot. Looks really strange& once your all tied up you kind of sit on your butt cheeks! Hopefully I've lost some weight from this session anyway. I'm definitely toning up, finally, well everywhere except...the belly!

Oh oh DS2 just looked at me and said mama!!! He should be asleep little begger but I'll forgive him now!

Hideous day.
Spent all day waiting for the power to go off. Used every electrical appliance that I thought I might want / need to use all before 10am plus had about 25 coffee's and early lunch for ds and I since I needed the microwave. Power never went off. Meltdown all day from ds over teeth Threw a full cup of water at me and the phone then burst into tears as he thought he was in big trouble. The tears barely ended all day.
Walked to village as had to get stamps and Medised. Every shop shut due to power outage. Guess we are just out of the area and they didn't know. My shoulder hurts again and heartburn is really bad. Feels like something stuck in my throat constantly.
Ds asleep now though so hopefully stays that way.

Oh pubie you poor thing, I guess you didn't get the medised then?

Oh, Rubs, you sound miserable , sorry you had such a shite day. And with rubbish PG stuff. Can you do anything nice for yourself this eve? Watch/eat/drink something you wouldn't normally? Get DH to give you a foot massage?

Veg and v about your yoga, I got the Tara Lee DVD and did it yesterday and I found it really good (quite hard actually, makes me realise how unfit I am). And that is really cute about DS2 saying "mama". T can say "see you soon", or rather, "sheeshoo", but mummy? Nah.

Great news on the house front, Beans, not surprised you're knackered but glad DH came up with the goods in the end and I'm really glad you like the new pad.

Had a nice day today, lots of play for T and groups and meeting up with new friends, feels like I'm gradually getting to know people here. Also had first MW appointment and booked scan for 22nd, beginning to feel a bit more real now. I am shocked at how different I was first time though. Really active. Now I just sit on my arse eating crisps.

Kiwi, how are you doing? When does DH go out to SA? Looks like my DP might have to go at the last minute if his colleague is still ill. If he does I'll be v pissed off as a) he went to Vancouver to cover the winter olympics and the deal was not both that and the WC, b) it's a long time away and c) I've booked a camping holiday with my best girlfriends this weekend and I hardly ever see them and don't want to have to cancel (and wouldn't contemplate bringing T, it would be like and "anti holiday". Still, it may be fine and there's not much I can do anyway so will just wait and see...

Oh, and Avo, great news about operation sleep, you should write a book, it'd fly off the shelves!

Really sorry for the long delay - work and life have both been really busy the past couple of weeks and I am just too exhausted to Mnet (a sad state of affairs when oneis too tired to type!).

DD1 has been waking up at any time between 3 and 5 am and coming into our room to complain about it being too light / dark / hot / cold (delete as applicable). DD2 is brilliant but getting a bit sick of all the disturbance - I think it may be time for crackdenification and thanks Avo - the white noise sounds like a great idea. I currently leave a Disney mega hits cd playing all night (they call it their 'mu-kit' for some reason) but maybe white noise would be better?

Can't remember much of all that I have read in my catch up so will just do the bits I can remember!

Veggie poor you with the bloody finger - happens to everyone. I once accidentally trapped DD2's little toe in our car door (a long story involving the Savacentre in Colliers Wood and a very noisy 2 year old)

Sybil I love the idea of having an affair with the swimming pool

Poxers it is grim isn't it? We found Piriton was brilliant and Calpol for the temperature but most of all I found the confinement tough! I was so happy to find fellow sufferers to socialise with! Lots of sympathy.

And Mom Thinking of you. As another one who has been there, it is just so tough. Look after your self.

Rubena I found the end of pregnancy a nightmare both times. Grim grim grim. At least when you have the sleep deprivation with the baby you feel lik eyou are making progress whereas when it is before, it just feels so pointless. Hope it gets better.

Apologies to everyone else, that is all my sleep-deprived brain can remember. Will try to keep up better!

PS - i am watching the Living TV thing called 'Four Weddings' for the first time ever - it is hilarious!

Evening all,

summer That is very funny! DD called DH, me and herself dadda for ages but once she learnt to say mama, we're all mama.

daisy Don't take it personally! Maybe he is telling you off for leaving him. I'm sure he had a great day but when you arrived he remembered you weren't there. DD does a similar thing sometimes and it makes me feel guilty.

rubes That sounds like a dreadful day. Has DS got to sleep now? Lots of good vibes from me for a better day tomorrow.

spot Eeek that is rather unfair. Would it mean an exciting bonus or something to make it up to you?

veggie PIL are still mightily displeased at the idea. I'm getting a bit worried that the survey will throw up some massive expensive problem or other and we'll have to pull out anyway - £1000 to the poorer for the survey too! I think my parents will keep their noses out, I hope .

Hope the yoga has done the trick. It sounds really difficult! Enjoy your day at the farm tomorrow.

Hey all. Rubs hope you are getting a nice early night tonight you poor thing. Also hoope you are doing ok Mom if you are lurking, thinking of you.

Avo haven't tried white noise yet though I might tomorrow - last night she woke at 4 which cant have been the light cos it WASNT light yet and still crackdenish in thtere anyway. Fortunately after I fed her she went back to sleep till just before 6 which is something. I might ha ve to see if she will return to having anearly morning feed then sleeping some more - that wss her pattern for months and months before she finally slept through (for a whole week...) so we'll see... If that doesn't work I'm trying white noise and industrial strength earplugs.

DH is leaving tomorrow and am feeling pretty miserable about it. We had lovely day together today just hanging out and I'm dreading the bit after he gets on at jet plane tomorrow

Ps Beans I've got to get that changing bag to you before you need it for two sets of nappies!

Vaggie - negative on the Medised, but he has gone to bed fine and I'm sure we won't hear from him until morning. Just noticed I can get Calpol Night or Medised from Chemist direct anyway.

Kiwi I'm way behind on your feeding situation, but what happens if you jusst cut out the night or early morning feeds? it would take a few days but surely she would get into a normal routine then? No wonder you are suffering! Sorry that dh is leaving -we will plan a get together

Hello Dora

Spot you sound chipper. Good news. Doubt it'll be an early night for me - this heartburn doesn't let me sleep. Will get something for it tomorrow for sure though.

Still haven't got to do my ill fated catch up - I have been trying to do work the last day or two but keep getting thwarted anyway. Still coughing but a lot better. Still itching as well - in fact, I have a rash all over my tummy and have had since Friday.

I am seeing Katie tomorrow but will definitely post properly tomorrow night - just wanted to say to Rubes that I remember sleeping awfully from 30 wks on - I am guessing that's about where you are now as I think you are two months on from me and I am 23wks now. You poor old thing.

Kiwi, very sorry about your DH going away... Beans, if you are dongling, what's your due date? Anyone fancy a Clapham lunch in the nearish future?

DD is taking the pinching to impressive new levels. After pinching me in fury when I took her up to bed, she lashed out and pinched one of her teddies on the stairs She needs Anger Management.

Love to all, and sorry the lameness of my contribution this evening! Mom, if by any chance you are reading, just wondering how you are doing and hope you are being kind to yourself.

Rubs I forgot to answer you question earlier, no DS2 crying doesn't wake DS1. Sometimes if DS2 wakes before him in the morning we close DS1's door to make sure he sleeps as long as can but otherwise no.

Lady poor you with the pinching. I wonder if the pinching will reduce once she gets more words. Maybe she's just wanting to swear at you but the best she's got to express that at the moment is a pinch.

Kiwi poor you, and poor Spot, possibly. If Spots DP goes away you will have to have a Brighton meet up.

Spot I loved Tara, but I was also loads lazier 2nd time around. Our couch still has a depression where my lardy bum sank into it for the entire pregnancy, truely.

Lady, sorry you are feeling ill - I missed that one earlier.
Yes I'll be 32 on Saturday. (that's weeks preg not age - I'm much older ) I don't remember being this uncomfortable so early on last time, although I guess I'm not that early on despite the fact I feel like I have a lifetime to go...
Lady - I'm going to see how I feel tomorrow morning, see how much sleep I get and see what the weather is like and make a decision about driving up. I so want to see you and meet Katie, but if I'm like today, it will be an effort unfortunately. at Anger managment. DS might need to sign up for the class too after his slapping and throwing things today.

Vaggie, do you keep ds1's door open at night then? I have always had ds's shut as he would wake especially when I am watching trashy TV

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Beans glad you are moved ok - can't wait till you have this baby so we can finally find out if it's a dd or a ds A friend of mine has been sceduled for her section on Sat. She has a few pg issue's going on GD etc so needs to come out, can't wait to see piccy's.

Evening girls. DD1 has just woken with a fever of 40.9. That's really high isn't it? I bet it's tonsillitis again. Whenever she gets a v high fever we end up at the GPs and the GP says they can't find the cause ofvthe fever so we must go to A&E. Then A&E say it's tonsillitis. I have bought her into bed with me and will keep a close eye but can't face an A&E dash right now. Is that bad? The GP said if it's over 40 after calpol I should seek help. But this happens every few months and it's always tonsils.

Evening all. Well that's me off the boozy lunches and blue cheese for a while. Wasn't really expecting to be joining the clackers quite this soon but both of us are rather excited albeit a bit surprised - it helps that DD was being particularly lovely and finally started calling DH Daddy with a degree of accuracy today

Not a word on FB please, I have work colleagues as friends...

Other questions - re transferring nipper, if she's completely out of it we can often get her from the car seat into cot, but only occasionally (eg if she's fallen asleep about 2 hours after usual nap time).

Lady - get your rash seen to young miss. Veggie's right about the pinching, it's probably frustration at not being able to say what she wants.

Rubes sorry you had such a rough day, hope you get a better night. Rennies.

Kiwi, fingers crossed for you while DH is away. Do you have anyone familial coming to stay to help/are you going visiting at all?