June 08 - if your name's not down you're not coming in!

[EddieIzzardismyhero]

Welcome to our new cliquey thread !

22nd November. My sister is due 4 days later, it transpires! We both had our scans today.

[There is not an emoticon for mother will be spending November on high alert somewhere on the M6]

Wow Biscuits you mean that C has been potty trained for 13 weeks and 3 days, and she is the youngest on the thread. Many congratulations.

Puree I would guess the secret is due towards the end of November.

Eddie so sorry for your friend and for you. I can get very miserable very quickly when I start to ponder these things.

Update on my friend with the high Downs risk. She had the amniocentesis (sp?) and it came out fine (does that mean the baby is completely risk free, or just that the risk is lower?). However she now has an infection and has been in hospital on an anti-biotic drip since Monday. Her DH took their DD to playgroup today, so had a bit of a chat with him, but I have only met him once before, so didn't want to pry. Not sure if the infection is the result of the amnio, or even if that is a possible risk from the procedure. They are scanning the baby, and so far it is fine, but they are obviously worried about the infection getting to the baby. I feel so sorry for her, she is one of those people who always seems to draw the short straw. Before all this worry, she had terrible morning sickness and really bad IBS.

The last couple of days here have been hard as you may have seen from my moaning on FB. By way of example, yesterday when we were getting changed after swimming, P was having a mini tantrum on the cubicle floor, and I turned round to see his ankles disappearing under the partition wall . I was topless at this point, but had the sense to reach for a towel before chasing after him. He then repeated the manoeuvre, and I cracked my head on a shelf as I tried to haul him back in. Today has been more of the same, we aren't getting on very well at the moment. The other problem is that DH who is normally super chilled despite having a full on job, has reached a threshold with work and is now getting really stressed and miserable. When he got in this evening he could barely speak he was so tired. He needs to look for a new job, but is too stressed and tired to do anything about it.

Anyway, Deb have a great holiday. You deserve it.

X-post biscuits! That is very cool about your sister. Does she already have children?

I am due on 11th, but trying not to fixate as P was 16 days late, so maybe we will have birthday buddies!

Wow, biscuits, that's fab news - although I am of course hugely jealous !

spider, you finally let your due date slip . Sorry to hear that you and P are not getting on - think that's partly being pg as I found it v hard to cope with A some days when pg.

spider no it's my sister's first, so have told Mum that if we have a clash of arrivals she's to go there first - only fair! I doubt we'll be birthday buddies though - C was 10 days late, so this one is more likely to be a birthday buddy with me! Sorry to hear about your swimming experience - I send C swimming with DH for those kind of reasons!

Congratulations biscuit

bugger can't remember if I said but no worries re sat. Will have a look at the diary and suggest an alternative date for a catch up!

Waves to everyone else. Have been reading all posts but currently trying to fight off summer cold and sort out out clothes for hols, both with limited success

really shouldn't be on here but just saw the news - congratulations Bisuits, great news

Thanks all for welcoming me back

neenz - still in the nw. Actually only moved a few miles into a different area. I'm loving it though. I'm interested in all the potty talk. A has started to tell me now when he's had a poo and I was wondering what the next steps are. I think I'll get a potty and see if he'll sit on it for more than 5-10 seconds rather than minutes!

debs - have a good hol/busy time away! Hope there isn't too much awkwardness with your dad

biscuits - congratulations!

spider - your swimming incident sounds like a nightmare. I often feel like A and I fall out a lot at weekends or my days off and then I feel really guilty, but they can be such hard work at this age, and it must be doubly so when you're pg

Hi all, and congratulations Biscuits!

Actually I'm going to disappear now. I'm beginning to feel like the only one here who isn't pregnant and only has one child, and it's become an ante-natal thread again; I have nothing to contribute on pg symptoms, or on coping with two (or more) children, so I don't feel like I belong here really any more. Plus it's upsetting me and bringing up lots of issues I don't want to face.

Thanks for your friendship and support, and good luck to everyone!

Eddie it is awful when something like that happens and you think 'what if...' - you weren't even there but you think what if it had been me and the kids... . I was fixating yesterday on something happening to the DTs while I was at work (not sure why as I am usually very relaxed). Must be hormones but I just tried to think of something else cos it is just not worth worrying over. You take all the precautions you can and then pray it is enough.

Biscuits, congrats! How do you keep these things to yourself?! I am the worst at it, I just get too excited and can't help telling people. My sis is due 12 days before me and my mum is on pins thinking we'll both need her at the same time. We keep telling her that it is no.3 (me) and no.4 (sis) so we reckon we know a few tricks on how to cope without her

Thank you all so much for the advice on potty training. I didn't think they were ready for full-on training but I did think that we might get a bit of success with a few hours nappy-off time. We haven't tho . I might carry on with some nappy off time when we are at home and see how it goes, but we still haven't had any successes, altho they both seem to like sitting on the toilet now, and E sat on the potty for ages this morn - and T tried to sit on it too, while E was still on it . I wasn't planning to even try any training until the new baby was in a good routine (about 3/4mo) but I just felt with them getting more awareness of pooing etc it just felt right to try. I don't think we are really getting anywhere tho so if they still haven't managed anything on the potty after a few more days I will abandon altogether!

Spider, glad your friend got the all-clear from the amnio, but worrying about the infection. Do you know what her risk of Down's was? They call 1:200 'high risk' which I think is a shame cos that is only 0.5% - I would take those odds when risk of mc from amnio is 1%. It seems to me that they make the stats seem more scary than they are - calling it 'high risk' when it might be 1% or less. Everyone has to make their own choices of course and I don't have anything against amnio (or abortion) when people feel it is right for them, but words can be very emotive and 'high risk' is a lot different to '1%' and saying '1%' would probably result in a lot less stress and worry.

Oh Essie no . I actually thought you were being sarcastic until I got to the end of your post . I hope you feel able to come back very soon cos I will miss you very much and I am sure everyone else will too.

Sorry you are feeling low .

essie - I'm stopping at one so you're not totally alone. It does give me mixed thoughts when I see others having more, especially if they had their first at the same time as/after me. Although I'm fairly confident of my decision it does make me feel, I don't know, uneasy somehow, difficult to describe. Hope you don't feel too

Opps - the WW weight loss post was meant for a Weight Watchers thread elsewhere on MN, but it was Amber's fantastic loss that has prompted me to get off my rather large backside...

Biscuits - Congratulations! Can't believe you and yr sis are due so close. Yr poor Mum in 5/6 months time.

Essie - Pls come back, I haven't caught up with you yet. I've only got the one too!

OK off to catch up properly now...

Spider - I cam sympathise a little, Ry has started biting when frustrated which means I have to be a complete helicopter parent at playgroup/music/anywhere to make sure no-one else gets bitten so I end up talking to no-one and on permanent high alert. Where did my lovely little boy go? And at home, I get the occasional very painful bite, when I put him in his cot as a time out I was thinking, although I love you, I really don't like you very much ATM. And although I would have been bloody furious if it has been me, your changing room story did make me laugh a little, well done for keeping your dignity!

I'm not sure what's happening here, but I have now lost three posts....don't know if it's our internet connection (NZ v behind, a lot is still dial up!) or MN maintainence but I'm going to have to give up for tonight.

Happy Thursday everyone!

Oh Essie I'm so sorry to hear that. I'm not pg or planning any more either. I hope you resolve your internal issues and come back soon.

I'm sorry you feel this way essie as I'm sure we will all miss you very much.

Although people do (and should) talk about all parts of their lives on here, it is a thread about our June 08 babies, and we all have lots more fun stuff to do together yet! Think how much agonising we will all do together about potty training, which nursery/primary to choose, how embarassing it is to be the mum crying at the the school gate and not the child (although that might be just me) . Seriously, this thread is still for you, don't go.

Congratulations Biscuit by the way. It's lovely news.

Lol penguin, I was a bit confused by your post cos, aside from Amber, all of us were complaining about how much weight we had to lose rather than how well we were doing!

Essie, I'm really sorry you don't feel you belong here anymore - I would second what sybil said, that this is about our June 08 babies and you have loads to contribute on that . Sorry you're having issues about it - I know you have spoken in the past over your confusion and I hope you can find some resolution to it. Big hugs and come back soon.

Forgotten everything else I was going to say .

Congratulations Biscuits. What a good secret-keeper you are

Hello Allnew and Penguin

Have a wonderful trip Deb. Fingers still crossed about the offer.

Essie so sorry you are feeling like this at the moment. You are one of the most interesting people I know and I love reading your posts, so please come back when you feel ready.

Having a much better day with P. Sorry for the moaning last night. After music I took him to Wisley and made use of the small soft play area for ages followed by a walk round some of the gardens. I didnt have the buggy, so the result is one v tired child who has been asleep for over two hours. I am trying to gently wake him up by MNetting over him...

essie I am sorry if my news has upset you. I had thought about not posting about it at all, and decided to in the end as it felt weird to not mention it. This thread is, as Sybil said, for sharing info and news primarily about our June 08 babies, and that is what we do most of the time. I always enjoy your posts or find them thought provoking, I think it would be a shame if you left because you were feeling excluded and upset, but you have to do what is right for you.

thanks for all the congratulations, you are much better than my RL friends, none of whom answered their phones last night when I was trying to share my news! I gave up and sent them a group text in the end.

neenz good at keeping it quiet as v fortunate in the symptom front, just tired, so little to hide from people!

Here's a quick quiz question for you all:

C has been enjoying eating ice cream and 'Zibs' for pudding. Anyone like to hazard a guess as to what word this translates to?

congrats biscuits. I ended up reading Spider's post first and did really think C had been toilet trained for three months. I'm both thrilled and relieved!!!

essie I'll send you a msg on facebook.

Congratulations on your lovely news Biscuits.

Zibs? Strawberries??

Essie, there are a few of us who only have one child, and aren't going to have any more - so you're really not the only one. I hope you'll come back.

I'm trying the Dukan Diet, day 3, it's hard going - kind of like Atkins, but very low fat.

Not heard of that one bugger. I am sooo depressed about my weight and don't know what to do about it - I am completely rubbish at dieting, except when I did Lighter Life and I haven't got the energy for that anymore.

Have just signed M up for the gym so going to start taking him swimming - hoping he'll be less stressy than A was!