June 08 - if your name's not down you're not coming in!

[EddieIzzardismyhero]

Welcome to our new cliquey thread !

um, sorry, didn't realise quite how badly I need my morning coffee . I yelled at poor DH and he want out of the house clutching his cash card and car keys, and came up to me 10 mins later with a huge cup of coffee .

I am here, lurking, but finding it difficult to post - every time I start, something happens. DP is away til next Sunday, have had a friend staying, etc ... Will be back tonight, assuming B goes to bed and stays there, and will catch up then!

Laughs (nicely) at Rolf - at least you got your coffee!

Waves to Bugger.

Right, off to bed now, have lovely lazy sundays those of you not hosting b-day parties! Enjoy the cake those of you that are.

Really quick post as on way to rspb centre, but weeing on tomatoes! I do want to be able to eat them afterwards you know!

penguin yes, daughter of same relatives, and not nearby for see-swa sharing, as in Cheshire, although she does have a younger sister, so a definite possibility.

Abdn Am thinking a balance bike and a scooter may be too much transport! will check out Sylvanian families and playmobil for DN. rolf what did your DD1 like for her 4th b'day, can you remember!?

my DS has bought C a trampoline, and we're running out of room in the garden for sand/water and slides, although I'm sure she would love both. Will think about a trunki or a wooden train set, she has neither so far! Thanks guys.

Ooh, wooden train set then. 'Tis the answer to everything (and essential for the Scottish summer). S has this one and birthday/christmas this year will no doubt be full of accessories to expand on it.

Yeah, weeing on tomatoes is gross! Do they still count as organic if you do that?

Biscuits, fave toys here are the Cozy Coupe cars (big big hit), slide, wooden garage, Matchbox-type cars, prams (but not dolls really!).

Eddie, hope the bbq turned out ok. I saw on FB that the sun came out so hopefully it was a good afternoon . Keep the faith with England - at Italia 90 we drew 1-1 with Egypt in the first game and made the semis. We usually start off slow and improve so fingers crossed.

Hi Biscuits. I've just asked DD1 and we got her a pirate outfit (her idea). She got a bike for Christmas. She likes jigsaw puzzles, still likes dolls (babies rather than Barbie-type, thank goodness). She loves DD2's Happyland school, that DD2 got for Christmas. She plays with that for ages. She got a build-a-bear for her 4th birthday and you can pretty much pick your budget with them. Dressing-up things always go down well, ime. The girly-girls like princess stuff. DD1 loved her pirate outfit and also a doctor outfit. She liked her doctor set too (can get them from ELC). She loves her scooter, which she got for Christmas when she was 4.5. I think the trunki is a good idea, too.

She has just asked me to post a link of her doing water babies. It was about 4 years ago, and we're the ones near the beginning - I'm lifting her up out of the water, wearing goggles

Tell DD1 that she and you looked great, very professional swimmers!

Thanks for all the ideas, will have to explore dressing up clothes for DN, that's an ace idea. DH is keen on the balance bike idea for C, or a trunki, so we will look into that.

Biscuits - Woolworths and disney always do good dressing up clothes especially for girly girls

Penguin - thanks for asking, Ethan is much more himself today and has managed to eat about 2/3 of a banana , 2 chips , a jammie dodger and a tiny piece of toast. Problem now is undoing the things I let him do whilst poorly - drink milk all day and sit on my knee at mealtimes - there may be trouble ahead!!!!

been out for lunch today as it's Father's day here and it was lovely , then amazing storm this afternoon with huge hailstones.

Rolf - your dd1 looks great, is she still a water baby?

Biscuits, I just looked at the woolies website for you and there are lots of costumes but some are a bit weird - look at this one - Man-U football fairy????

Deb kept meaning to post about Ethan. Poor boy. I'm glad he's on the mend.

We stopped doing waterbabies when I was pregnancy with T. Towards the end of the pregnancy I was finding it too difficult to walk to the pool (it's about a mile away) and we had also had to miss a lot because of DD1's ears (she had a perforated eardrum). Waterbabies is great but is so expensive that missing lots of lessons really hurts! She has regular lessons now, and loves them. Poor T has never been in a pool .

Dewin stay with us .

Rolf - did any of yours go through this when teething?

I'm not entirely sure . You know how a lot of these things all make sense retrospectively? I seem to remember one of them having a bad time with molars. I think it must be 10 years of rampaging hormones and sleep deprivation, but I really can't remember....

Oh I know what you mean Rolf

at the Man U fairy! Even the poor child modelling it looks a bit stunned !

Rolf, cute vid .

The BBQ turned out lovely - had a really good time but very very tired now.

Sorry for my miserable post now, got a lot on my plate at the mo with the move/job, etc and just feeling a bit . Sorry .

AH and other cyclists, any tips for encouraging A on his bike? Two of his toddler friends came round today and jumped straight on it, but A didn't want to know! I don't want to be pushy and put him off it, but I don't want it to gather dust in a corner either .

Right back to the footie - Australia are being trounced!

Penguin - congratulations!
I've heard that you are supposed to wee on your compost heap, good for adding nitrogen I believe, but we've never put that into practice, I'm sure the neighbours think I'm mental enough without seeing me crouched over the compost heap.

Deb - PMSL at the Man U fairy!
Good to hear Ethan is on the mend.

I've been busy today making J's birthday present, it's a sand box, I've made the box bit (DH helped with some of the sawing) and need to make a lid and paint it all. My arm is aching from sawing and drilling, I'm such a lightweight.

Do any of you know anything about Steiner schools? All I know is what I have read on MN which isn't very favourable.

Back again. Forgive me if I miss anyone or anything out. More congratulations for more preggo news to all concerned! Yay Penguin. Yay Poppy. Double yay Amber!! Yays to Biscuits and Spider too. Have I missed anyone?

Rolf, I'm sending you a huge hug. I still haven't been able to bring myself to go to the docs, but at least I have been able to talk about it to DP and to a couple of RL friends now, after fessing up on here. We have to change GP anyway, so I'm going to wait til I've done that. My own GP is lovely but a fruitcake, and she examined me and gave me the all clear at my 8 week check, so I don't exactly feel comfortable with her. I am horrified at the state of my bits after childbirth, from the outside in.

Moving on (quickly!)...

B has got his birthday present early, a swing, and he loves it. Which is a bit tiresome when it's peeing down with rain and he wants to go outside to play on it. I spotted a super cheap goal post and football set in TK Maxx so I've hidden that away in the garage until his birthday. I have high hopes for him - my great uncle was a professional footballer (in your neck of the woods Abdn). He was team captain and played on the national team. Another uncle was signed to my home club (think Magpies), but decided to play cricket instead. Do you think B might have got the genes? Hmmmm. I just hope he hasn't got his parents' arty farty genes, and gets a proper job. Not very promising, no doctors or dentists or lawyers in the family!

Goddess and Biscuits, special thanks for keeping an eye out for me. Goddess, your holiday sounded fab, am v .

Neenz, v impressed with your football chat, despite the family stuff, I have no idea, and just like cheering and squealing and shouting along. If England manage to get through, I'll have to round up some fellow England supporters for a party here. If they do get to the end, I may even be in England for it, as we're going home for B's birthday. DP - not English - will love that, I don't think.

Eddie, hope your day got better.

Dewin, I'm sorry you feel so sad. If you can post about it, do.

Abdn, superheroes party sounded fab. I think I'm going to attempt a Thomas cake here - Thomas is the latest obsession. I have to keep singing the theme tune... [tiresome]. V cute to hear B singing it back though.

After Dewin's (fab) mini history lesson bringing witty and erudite content to the thread - more please! - I knew I had something to share with you to bring down the tone. We have a student from Asia, I won't spell their name in case anyone googles, but it sounds like Hairy Wang. Ouch. I also have a friend called Jo King - honestly!

Sorry for mega post, and for missing anything and anyone.

Hi bugger, friends of ours have just bought goal posts for A - he is also related to a footie player, Cliff Bastin is my mum's uncle once removed (or something!) and was the top goal scorer for Arsenal in his day!

Ooooh Eddie, do you think the June 08 babies could form a squad??!!

I'm back now - last night my post was cut short (at a dramatic point too!) because I was typing away and then the lights flicked on and off, I posted it, and we had a 2 hr powercut!
On the plus side, it gave me some time to think. I will post briefly, and promise not to be so selfish tomorrow. (You ladies can meanwhile smack me, shun me, or sort me out one way or another!)

Ok, so now I'm the only one remaining on the thread who is not ruling out another baby who is not pg. That's weird and makes me feel all sad.
I do intend to have another, but at the moment I shouldn't because it might scupper my career (which is limping along as it is - it's a waiting game). But everyone else getting pg means I'm left on my own, and it's very weird.
So, I'm feeling like I'm missing the bus (without buying the ticket, I should add); and panicking - what if I can't get pg? (Because, frankly, there's pressure now - everyone on here has managed it.) I would then feel like a failure. And beat myself up for ever for not getting on with it. I'm also going to be old. I'm panicking about a big gap - nobody else is doing it IYKWIM - and just generally messing everything up.
Plus, in a drama queen kind of way, if I do get pg whenever, you'll all be 'so what? We've got lots of babies and don't care'. And I'll be the only one going through it as well. And I'll just be all stupid...

But I'm a bit confused as to why it's making me cry - it's my decision. Maybe I'm upset because deep down I might be making the wrong decision?

Sorry, so miserable. Also having my period (I handle things better mid-cycle. ) And I hate football so much too!

Bugger you want more? Anyone know anything about (King) William Rufus? Gay, dressed like a woman, shot by accident...son of The Conqueror and all (I'm fond of William I and he's on my list once my time machine works.)

Oh Dewin, I thought it was baby related sadness, sending un MN(((hugs))). If it was me I'd say bugger the career and start trying and just see how it goes, but it's you and your career is important to you. I really don't know what the best advice is. You know we'll be here to support you if you have a baby later on , I love hearing about babies and pregnancy because I know I'm not having any more(forever broody that's me) so you'll not be alone.What does your dh feel about it? Does he want another? Does he think you should go for it now or wait? And how old are you? I can't remember, not old enough to be worrying this much about your fertility surely?Does any of this help? Probably not, but maybe you feel better now that you've told us how you're feeling.Take care x

. I've not completely ruled out having another. I've been through a long stage of thinking it would be very unlikely, but I'm coming around again. However, like you, for all sorts of reasons just now is not a good time. Which isn't ideal because I'm only a few years off forty.

Football - S is related to 2 footballers, one on each side of the family (not famous or interesting).

Hey Dewin, it sounds perfectly reasonable and understandable. Sorry you are feeling that way . Are you praying about it? Maybe you should leave it in God's hands, stop using contraception and let Him decide .

That Man U fairy outfit is the worst thing I have ever seen - I was so shocked I posted a link on FB!

Eddie, it's so horrid when you get them a dead exciting pressie and they just don't react the way you think/hope they will. It happens to us too (Esther with her slide and her scooter) and sometimes they just get into it gradually (the slide) and sometimes you just have to put it away for 6mths and try again then (the scooter). Just try again in a few weeks. There's no rush. They grow up so quick at this age - I have noticed a massive difference developmentally in T and E in just a few weeks since they turned two -they are growing up so fast. So perhaps he will love it very soon, just not quite yet.

I have a little dilemma - I told my SIL this aft (the one pg with twins) that we have chosen Dan for a boy, and she said 'oh', and I immediately thought perhaps she had chosen the same name. She rang DH tonight to say their fave boys name is Dan too. She is due four weeks after me but obviously as it is twins they will probably come early and may arrive before our baby. She doesn't know what sex she is having (nor do we) so it might not be a problem but as she is having two it is quite likely one will be a boy! Previously she had not told anyone what names they had chosen (they like to wait till after the baby's born). I don't really know exactly what she said to DH cos he is a bit rubbish at relaying this sort of stuff, but he said she was just telling him, not claiming it or asking what to do or making suggestions for a solution (if we were both to have boys). So do you think it's basically down to whoever gives birth first gets first dibs? I kind of feel like we were pg first and we were the first to say we wanted the name so we should be able to use it, but then if she has her babies first and doesn't use it then we have a girl... no one gets to use it, which would be a shame. Hmmm... do you think we could use it even if she does? They only live a mile away from us (they have a different surname though) so they will be very close cousins, so it would be tricky. I honestly thought beforehand that if she did use it she would use Daniel cos her other DS is called Sam, and Dan and Sam rhyme. But she specifically said 'Dan' to DH. What to do?