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November 09 - rolling, laughing and cutting teeth ... but us mama's are still not getting sleep!!

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scarlotti · 11/04/2010 09:14

New thread for us

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Pavlov · 17/04/2010 21:50

DWB water is fine. BF babies don't need water, and they should not be given it to drink, as in a bottle of it along with BM, as BM has all the fluid they need and too much fluid dilutes the nutrition of the BM, but the amount of water the babies will be getting from playing themselves with a sippy cup, even a fast flowing one, will be minimal, and its not being given as a 'drink', as you say, a toy. Reuben gets the odd mouthful and splutters in surprise!

laugs the sun makes me sneeze and I don't even have blue eyes! I tell Ross it is the sun, if I have a run of sneezes which the sun causes, and he laughs it off too. Did the QI thing say it was a blue eye thing then? I will keep an eye on the red eyes, and mention it to the gp next week. Come to think of it, for the last two days he has had a little eye snot in the teary corners, but no runny nose that I can spot, a little snoty, but not clear, just his normal gunk (poor boy). I might start to keep a diary, of things happening, when, and what we are doing at the time, see if there is a pattern to give us an indication.

Pavlov · 17/04/2010 21:51

sorry also mean to say laugs am glad you had a happy day with DD. Good days make the harder ones much easier to manage, if you know it will not always be like that.

hobnob57 · 17/04/2010 22:00

You lot, along with DH, are photic sneezers

Pav, DD1 gets watery eyes and a puffy face with dairy, so it's quite possible it's an allergy to something.

scarlotti · 18/04/2010 07:15

Morning all

Well it's christening day!! Have rearranged the furniture, food is pretty much sorted in the fridge and drink waiting to be laid out. Am hoping all goes well!!
And it's also the Brighton marathon which I didn't know when I booked the date, so am now hoping everyone can get to the church and then get back here without getting stuck in traffic!!

Laugs was thinking I should wait to tell DH until after the exams. Am just struggling with the slight hypocritical feeling that I'm going to relate etc. when it's pretty much over for me. Was wondering if I should just say how I feel but that I don't want us to do anything about it until end of June. Maybe I'm being naive in thinking that we could stay amicable after I've said my piece? Probably.

Sun makes my eyes water, and mine are hazel!

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BeckyBendyLegs · 18/04/2010 08:40

I'm a photic sneezer too! How weird. I thought it was just me, didn't realise there was a term for it. My mum does it too. The sun makes me sneeze and it can be up to 20 times!

scarlotti · 18/04/2010 19:22

Have had the loveliest day. Ioan was brilliant at the christening, not a peep when he got the water poured on him. Came back then for drinks/food and the sun was shining so all had a great time.
Off to have a glass of wine now and some cake!

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ursigurke · 18/04/2010 21:02

scarlotti, glad to hear that your christening was so lovely.
I hope everybody else had a nice weekend.
We have been working hard to get Paula back to the cot for at least a part of the night, hopefully we will soon have some improvement. (Just heard my husband who is in charge of the first waking through the monitor "why are you sooo awake?" )
It would be the third night and I've heard many times, also here on mumsnet that it always takes three nights to change a child's habit. Hopefully this is true.

tigger32 · 18/04/2010 21:06

scarlotti Glad Ioan's christening went well, and you've managed to enjoy it.

sorry post cut short as H is waking for his feed already!

Ninjacat · 18/04/2010 21:55

Pav Hay Fever? (Reuben)

raggie · 18/04/2010 22:09

Hello everyone

Just about to read through all the messages on our shiny new thread but thought I'd pop a wee message on in case I don't have time to post in response this evening. Had a lovely week in Wales with such glorious sunshine and the sun continues this weekend too, wahey. Today we had our first meal outside for this year - lunch in the sun with some lovely ex-colleagues from my school in London...AND I managed to make a Yotam Ottolenghi tart from the recipe book that came free with the paper this weekend. YUM!

Hope you and your babes are all well. now I'm off to find out the news.

Pavlov · 18/04/2010 22:23

just a quick post to say hope you all had a good weekend. scarlotti glad the christening went ok, hope you enjoyed your after party wine .

ursi hope you get to settle paula for a good stretch this evening, and have a good sleep yourself.

Had a few bad nights myself now, and don't expect this one to be any different. In fact i know it. Currently have dd in bed with me, covered in sweat due to a fever of 39.3. Luckily have managed to get it down with calpol and ibruprofen but am expecting it to rise again so am prepared! Quite nice to have both children snoring asleep either side of me, even if it only lasts an hour .

Sleep well x

SirBoobAlot · 19/04/2010 02:05

Will catch up later - but have just got home and have the following to say:

Never ever again.

Hope you're all okay.

hobnob57 · 19/04/2010 13:13

I'm hating myself today. I just can't deal with the demands/personality of DD1 and meeting the needs of DD2 without lashing out in exasperation at DD1 for the slightest thing. And it's becoming default behaviour for both me and dh.

dd2 is very needy just now - I think it's teeth - she is constantly crying and very difficult to nap. She needs held at all times or the noise gets intolerable. To give an example, today she didn't nap all morning despite going out in the pram. She gurned. We got back from nursery and I treid to get her to nap. It wasn't looking good. Ordinarily I'd have stuck to it, but DD1 was downstairs and needing attention/fed. So I put dd2 on her bean bag and made dd1 her lunch and washed up half of last night's dishes whilst dealing with dd1's incessant pointless questions/silence-fillers and dd2's increasing crankiness. I gave dd2 her medicine whilst dd1 was eating, which is a difficult task with a wriggly cranky baby. As I'm trying to rescue spat-out granules from dd2's person, dd1 is asking more state-the-obvious questions and I just lose the plot. She gets told to be quiet. I'm then lashing out at her for every sound she makes. I'm then faced with the dilemma of waiting 5 mins for dd1 to finish lunch before feeding the now screamin g dd2 and putting her down for the previously abandoned nap, of feeding dd2 in the queit of the living room and leaving dd1 abandoned in the kitchen with a heavy atmosphere. I've chosen the latter. And this goes on from hour to hour, day to day and I'm hating it. I want one of those babies that sleeps when you put it down and allows regrouping time for dealing with dd1. I just want to gag her at the moment. As dh pointed out yesterday, her first sponsored silence will be extremely lucrative. we're considering settin g up a trust fund for it now

rant over

SirBoobAlot · 19/04/2010 13:29

Hobnob don't be so hard on yourself. That would drain and get on top of anyone at times - especially with the joys of teething added in, it cranks the stress levels up that bit further! You're doing such a great job. And besides, you can't be perfect all the time Have a glass of wine and slab of cake.

tigger32 · 19/04/2010 13:32

hobnob Everything you just said (except that I have boys not girls) is exactly what is happening here with a 3rd child added in to allow some sibling rivalry! I am sat here now with ds3 who is tired but refusing to sleep screaming and grabbing everything in sight. I keep telling myself that things will get better, I'm feeling the guilt with you as I am so tired that I snap at everyone. I don't know about you but I feel as though everyone wants a part of me and there just isn't enough of me to go around! Oh and am I right in thinking your dd1 is aged 3 ish? My ds2 is 3.5 and is asking lots of random questions etc too.

erika hope you are ok after your weekend away, try to forget it now its over.

Got to cut short again as Hen is screaming loud I'm going to give in and feed him to sleep!

hobnob57 · 19/04/2010 13:35

mmmm cake - if only! Maybe that's what the problem is - cake deprivation . Must dig out MIL's hypoallergenic muffin recipe. After the washing up. And hanging up nappies. And having lunch.

Just now, all is forgotten - both dds down for a nap. Aaaaahhhhhh.

SB how was the weekend, really?

Trikken · 19/04/2010 14:06

mine are both sleeping now with annabelle asleep on me and wakes every time i try to get up. lunch will have to wait!

DontWorryBaby · 19/04/2010 14:10

hobnob I'm having a similar meltdown today, and I only have one child, so I think you're doing brilliantly!!

Ethan has refused to nap all morning. I think the problem was I tried him in his cot and left him for an hour, settling periodically but did not pick him up until an hour had passed. Then tried bouncy chair in living room for another hour, still no sleep. Into our room to lie on our bed together... still no sleep! Eventually fed him and then sat him up for burping and his head was lolling he was soooo tired. He has just woken up after sleeping around 45 minutes. Still grumpy. Bah!

This must be National Baby No Sleep Day and nobody told us mummies!

Sirboob Hope your weekend away wasn't too tortuous.

Scarlotti Glad you enjoyed Ioan's christening yesterday.

Pav Have things settled down at your end? Hope all is ok.

hobnob57 · 19/04/2010 14:29

tigger and here was I wondering if it would actually be easier with 3 so that the other 2 could distract each other and take the pressure off me for a bit. But I know that's me just feeling broody and forgetting about the logistics of washing, feeding, dressing, toileting, getting out of the house-ing, napping, bedding of an extra body. You're amazing.

Speaking of which, I'm still in a dilemma about my PT work. I pretty much know that going down to 3 days will kill my chances of affording #3, but that working 4 days will be way harder than I want to have to deal with. But I just know I'm not finished with babies yet! I shouldn't worry about age since my mum had my half brother and sis when she was 36 and 42 and I'm only 34, but after a mmc I'm tetchy about that too. Given that I seem to breed high-maintenance refluxers I also know that DH is going to have a lot more reasons to dismiss the idea out of hand (he almost has done already) than money, especially when he is overworked and sleep deprived

SirBoobAlot · 19/04/2010 14:59

Hobnob to be honest, it was fucking horrible. I'm sorry to swear in an opening line, but it truly was. On the Friday, I was told I was going. Finally dug my heels in (after having been forced to pack a bag, must admit) and said I was not going, Mum sighed and said okay. Went and took the dog to the kennels. Then she came back, Bryn was playing in his cot and I was in the bathroom. Then I heard Bryn crying, figured he'd got bored.

Mum had put him in his car seat and in the car, and said if I didn't get in she would take him to Cheshire anyway and he would just be bottle fed. I told her not to be so ridiculous, and she started the car and started to pull away.

The party itself was okay, but after how the weekend started was never going to be too good, really... sighs I love my family but sometimes...

Rant over, sorry.

DontWorryBaby · 19/04/2010 15:08

Erika ridiculous is an understatement. Are you ok? Are you trying to find a place of your own?

Fruitpastels · 19/04/2010 15:42

sirboob I'm lost for words. I'm sorry you are treated with such little respect .

Laugs · 19/04/2010 15:47

SirBoob that is really shocking! I can't believe she would threaten you like that. It sounds like it might be a good time to move out on your own? Your mum doesn't seem to recognise that Bryn is not actually her child to make all these decisions over. Even if you couldn't get council housing, you should be entitled to housing benefit, where they pay private rent to a reasonable rate (the amount they pay is based on how much it costs to live in your area).

Hobnob I had a few days feeling like that last week. I feel like I can't think with the incessant babble coming from DD 24/7. Don't beat yourself up though, you are doing a great job, you are bending over backwards to care for both DDs, which is why there's no time left for you. Give yourself a break (and a literal one too, if possible) x

BeckyBendyLegs · 19/04/2010 15:55

tigger I could have written your post! I have no time to myself at the moment, but I am holding on to the hope it will get easier with three. I'm feeling really low today, hardly slept last night (on the other hand Toby did!). I feel so tearful today but I know it is the tiredness making me feel like that. I couldn't even string a sentence together at the school gates this afternoon.

BeckyBendyLegs · 19/04/2010 15:57

SirBoob just read your post. I am speechless too.