November 09 - rolling, laughing and cutting teeth ... but us mama's are still not getting sleep!!

[scarlotti]

New thread for us

with you on non stop older sibling laugs, though thankfully she has fallen in love with the boy next stop and they are spending all day together..however how do u prevent them getting soo tired that by 5:30 she is beside herself with tiredness and nightmare to get to bed, they are both in bed these days by 6pm! she is also starting to wake up 6ish too which is just wrong..

ended up starting baby rice this am and had absolutely no intention to start for another month!! have another child here full of cough, been doing on 10 days now and its awful, doctor says just a cold but i have seen more puked up milk in my life to last a lifetime and how is there SOO Much milk in their little stomachs?! first feed of day seems to be worse, suppose its cause mucus all built up over nite so after she puked 2 bottles ended up giving her baby rice, only a spoon of rice mixed with formula but at least it stayed in, wouldn't be soo bad if i didn't have hv on my back re. her weight all the time

anyway i hear my tea...

Laugs We've booked the church and hotel. Only having close family & friends during the day (around 30 adults and 10 kids) which will hopefully make for quite a relaxed ceremony and meal. The venue takes up to 190 for the evening reception so we can invite everyone else for the party. Decided on Claret for the bridesmaids and flowers etc. Looking at stationery online to make our own invitations but lacking inspiration at the moment. Would like a Claret ribbon on the invite in some form but all the little decorations etc I've seen seem a bit cheap. Will keep looking. Thoroughly enjoying it all so far! Needless to say, if any of you guys would be in the Glasgow area on 15th Oct let me know and I'll drop you an invite!

BLW It all just makes sense, doesn't it? Ethan is 19 weeks (I think) so well off 6 months but I've started giving him a sippy cup to help with the hand/eye co-ordination and it's amazing how quickly he's learning. Will also get a highchair soon & start putting him in it at our mealtimes and wait patiently for him to show some interest in our food.

I hate to say this, but is anyone else getting fed up with breastfeeding and being the only person who can feed the baby? I know it won't be forever but I'm starting to feel a bit claustrophobic. Maybe I just need a break...

DWB It's not so much I'm fed up with BF. It's C not being able to concentrate on feeding when we're in public. He like to be nosey and alert to every sound. I've had to start expressing and take a bottle with me to put my mind at rest. We were in Bluewater shopping centre yesterday and had a bite to eat in Nandos. Had no bottle of exp milk with me. It was an open space with loads of people around, it was the same everywhere. We sat in a corner but still on show with a staircase running along side of us and nosey. I had to go to the ladies toilet and find a chair to feed C. I didn't like doing it, but it was the only way of making sure he was fed. I do enjoy feeding him, but at home or in a quiet place. Loving your wedding colour scheme

noisy!!

oh yes dwb sippy cup great idea!

wizzy i have emailed you.

8 nappy changes so far. Not explosive poo, not loads, but seems to be almost hourly . and i have very sore boobs. They feel like they have been chewed on like gum!

and yes dwb fed up of bf right this second as I have been unable to do a thing today as he has wanted milk milk milk.

Another one slightly fed up with feeding here. Its the endless demanding nature of it - especially if he is being fussy. Or is biting. He has recently been very awkward; feeding for five minutes then wanting to play for five, then feed for five etc. Which is annoying at home, and highly disruptive when I'm out. That sounds very selfish, doesn't it? I do enjoy the feeding but sometimes I just want my body back to me. Could also now do with a boob lift but that's another thread

Still undecided about the journey. Part of me is wondering if I should just go if for no other reason than to get mum off my back. Though mainly am thinking about how awkward it will be, how uncomfortable, how nerve racking. sigh

Am still enjoying bf here, but it helps that Ioan feeds in 5 mins flat so can concentrate on feeding for as long as it takes to fill his tummy! Have had a bite the other day, but pulled him off and said a stern no and so far he hasn't done it again so am hopeful.

Gave Ioan some tea tonight. Given that we'll have less time for tea on work days I'll be doing mashed food with a spoon then. So tonight I thought I'd use up a puree from the freezer - he wolfed down a pot of carrot, followed by a mashed bit of parsnip from my plate then a bit of mashed potato!! He was so excited and kept opening his mouth for more. He seems to be following his brother (and his dad ) in that the food can't get in quickly enough! Am still going to offer finger food too, possible more at lunch, but he genuinely seemed to want to have lots to eat. The parsnip was only chopped up with a knife and fork so was quite lumpy too. I like to think it's BLW with a twist - encourages chewing and as I don't force feed he leads by opening his mouth!!
He did gag a little but the BLW book says that it's normal as they learn to move the food around their mouth.

DWB exciting about the wedding plans I've made wedding invitations for people (and my own) before so if you want any thoughts etc. I'd be happy to help! Also have heaps of craft stuff so could probably help out with that side of things too.

sirB stand your ground I say. You've already started down that route and the payoff will be bigger than just this trip. Think of it as practice for doing things like controlled crying with Bryn in future

Pav at your dh's tiredness from 3 hours work! Sounds like mine... hoep Reuben is feeling ok after all his nappies.

another pooey nappy I made DH do this one as I have done all bar the first one. I have lost count now. When do you think I should start to be concerned? he seems fine in himself, just constantly eating, his fontenelle is fine. I keep checking as being sunken can be a sign of dehydration.

DH is out. As normal. DD has just gone to bed. I had tea at 6pm with DD and now I am starving, no biccies in the house, i can't be bothered to cook anything, and nothing to pick, so guess it will be lots of toast.

oh and i want Reuben to go to sleep, like now?

Pav as long as he's eating/drinking and he seems ok in himself then I think it's fine. Could be a reaction to the antibiotics though (although nothing serious) so I guess a call to the docs in the morning might help put your mind at ease.

I've eaten one of Ioan's easter eggs tonight ... well how else is he supposed to benefit other than through the milk

Christ, Pav, how much poo can one child hold?!

Scarlotti I gave Bryn a piece of peeled pear yesterday just to see what he did - he sucked his way through it Bless. I might have to wrack your brains re; wedding invites myself as a friend is getting married in about 25 days and has asked me to do them

SirBoob Ioan chomped through a piece of apple the other day quite happily, although he's not quite got the dexterity to hold it properly just yet. If I hold it though he's well away!!

25 days to do them, or until she gets married?! Ideally she'd send them at least 6 weeks before the date! How many do you have to make?

Oh, and also meant to say a big yes to the non stop chatting from older dc's here too! DS1 just never stops - he can talk about anything.

Fruit interested to see that you've moved into the cot. I've been wondering when I should move Ioan out of his hammock. Is C's cot in another room?

scarlotti I moved the cot in to my bedroom. It just about fits! He does look far more comfortable and very stretched out. No complaints so far. I really wanted to get him used to the night time in the cot so I can work on the day time naps in the cot over the next few weeks. The hammock has been wonderful and helped so much in the early weeks. Wished I knew about the amby when DS1 was born. We will sell it on Ebay and hope to get some money back. Even though I'm still in denial about C being my last baby!

I don't know whether to bask in the glory of today or to get really worried that there is something wrong with DD.

1. She slept right through the night on her tummy in her big cot for the first time (for all 3) after I decided I was too tired for a dream feed.
2. She had a 2 hour nap this morning
3. She had a 2.5 hour nap this afternoon
4. I think a tooth has broken through. I've definitely got a graze on my left nipple from something!
5. She has been asleep with no complaints since 7:30 after only 45 mins of sore tummy complaints which calpol seemed to resolve
6. She has had 2 dirty nappies today. Nothing compared with Reuben I know, but she's more like one a week at the moment.

All this from a screaming banshee last week which refused sleep at every opportunity .

The nappies might be teething. The second one had dark bits in it which may have been something I ate. The tiredness might be catching up on lost time.

OR we've cracked our nightmare cycle by tummy sleeping. Who knows. Time will tell. But I got a full hour at Pilates

Sorry to hear of so many snots and wheezes about these days.

Laugs DD1 wears us both out constantly. She is incessant. We feel so guilty for getting frustrated by her because she is such a happy and enthusiastic wee thing but she does our heads in. She needs constant verbal and physical interaction to the point that dd2 doesn't get a look in. And we can't formulate basic thoughts in our heads because any silence is immediately filled with innocuous banter. She has started asking pointless questions like 'Mummy are you having toast for lunch?' when I have a bowl of soup in front of me. When I answer 'no, I'm having this soup' she asks 'why not?' 'Because I had toast for breakfast' 'Why?'.. and so on. Thank goodness our new neighbours' kids have taken a shine to her and entertain her for periods. She too is getting very bossy. I don't have nay answers other than plenty of running around outside.

DWB & SB we made our own wedding invitations very cheaply. We printed the invitation onto ivory paper (1/4 A4, landscape I think) and also an RSVP the same size. We overlayed the invitation page with a colour printout of a watercolour a friend did for us of our wedding venue printed on tracing paper, and tied all 3 together in a little booklet with mulberry handmade paper cover and ivory ribbon. The RSVP was very handy because we wanted to offer our guests a choice of dinner, and they had to indicate their choice for us.

hobnob I would definiltely be basking in glory! how fantastic, long may it continue. How old is she now? I have wondered myself whether Reuben would sleep better on his front, as he is most comfortable on me tummy down, and quite often falls asleep on his tummy when doing tummy time. He has always been like this and always had issues with being on his back.

He is finally passed out on my chest, arms and face resting possessively around my boob. In that 'I am having this back so dont think about moving' kind of way. I know he will wake up if I move. So I will just have to starve. And I am starving

Fruit that's what I'm thinking of doing, both with the cot and the eBay! I bought mine on eBay and paid half the retail price so they hold their value well.

hobnob I've heard of other babies who've settled really well when allowed on to their tummies. Think the movement on the stomach allows them to digest properly etc. so they can release their own wind and produce more nappies, so helping things along. Long may it continue and now get thee to bed and make the most of it!!!

DWB our wedding invites were made and printed by me. We put DH's family crest on the front - he's scottish too.

Scarlotti until she gets married She got onto a new wedding show they are doing on Channel Four. She got a phone call last week, and I think the date of the wedding is May 6th. Rather her than me

Well I guess that's one way to get help with the cost of it all!! Not my cup of tea though I have to say.

Strangely had a better night last night but fed him earlier! He's still waking coughing around 12 but then woke again around 2. Settled him but he woke again at 2:30 so fed him. He then slept until 7! Am wondering if he prefers it in with me when he's got a cold as he sleeps on his side, must drain his nasal passages to ease his breathing.
He has a settling in session this morning but I'm not sure whether to take him or not, if he's a bit poorly then surely it would be better to keep him home? Might ring her.

Scarlotti have obviously never done this all before, but my opinion would be to take him - that way you will be able reassure yourself that she is able to take care of him when he isn't 100%, and you will be able to pick him up earlier if you / he / she are not happy with it, which you might not be able to do once he is there for real. Poor thing, I hope he feels better soon.

Bryn has had his third jabs - yey for no more till a year!!! All the nurses were cooing over him; the nurse who does the baby jabs is the same one who did mine and my brothers, so she says she always feels old when Bryn goes in for his

I have my first ever filling tomorrow Am really quite anxious. Someone please remind me that if nothing else it can't be worse than birth !

Hmm too good to be true. Isla was up twice last night and has been back to her usual crotchety fighting sleep self today. I've got her off again this afternoon by another marathon sit-and-suck session on the sofa. She definitely has a tooth!

In fact, I can hear her up again. Must dash.

Love Tesco groceries online!

Claire your wedding sounds great! I'm very excited for you
I am also sick of BF'ing. I feel sad as I loved it with DD and found it really bonding, but this time it's too sore for me.

Hobnob your DD1 sounds exactly like mine. There really is never a minute she doesn't speak. And if she has nothing to say, she asks me to make up a story for her. I'm trying to teach her about 'speaking inside your head' but to no avail! How old is yours (please tell me not too much older...)

James did his first roll last night! Wahey! Isn't it amazing witnessing their milestones? He looked so proud of himself, he immediately did it another three times. He'd forgotten what to do this morning though. Aw!

The HV came round for his 3-4 month check today and asked if I planned to BLW. I said 'oh do you recommend that?' and she said 'no, the government is just starting to phase it in slowly, so we can't recommend it yet' How does that make any sense?? Surely if you are phasing something in, it is because it is a Good Idea? Hmm. I thought it was interesting that she brought it up though, from nowhere. I must look the type!

Laugs I do wonder what we may have done to encourage such verbal diarrhoea, and the volume that accompanies it. Other than PFB & 1st Grandchild syndrome I think we just have to accept that it is the way she is, and no amount of encouraging to be anything else has worked. She was 3 in December, so about the same age as yours I think. I'm hoping that the social interaction of nursery and new friends in the street might teach her some social niceties.

Saying that, I've witnessed the first quality interaction between DD1 and DD2 and it was hilarious for all parties concerned. So I'm hoping that DD1's attention may be diverted more often . Isla's new word is 'bvvvvv', which I think translates as 'I've got wind'. She and DD1 had a full-on 'bvvvv' session while I was cooking tea. Priceless.

Must. Stop. Getting. Involved. On. AIBU.

Laugs bless him And how confusing from the HV! Though if its any use, I mentioned it to the HV at the group yesterday and they were really pleased I was considering it. Its so confusing, isn't it - you can never get it right!!

Hobnob how cute! That must have been so adorable to see

Hope you're all well, have introduced solid feed number two here today, he quite happily munched his way through 2oz for supper. Fingers crossed for a good nights sleep...