November 09 - rolling, laughing and cutting teeth ... but us mama's are still not getting sleep!!

[scarlotti]

New thread for us

Sorry to hear of sickness.

Glad I'm not alone on the lacks routine

Crikey! 30 degrees in London today - not liking this kind of heat. We are all flaked out here after a sticky night. I've got a terrible cough too. Sorry wook your DS isn't too well. Hope he wakes up feeling lots better this morning. Raggie the heat makes me ratty too.

C has taken to sleeping on his front. He has become a nightmare to change his nappy, wants to roll all the time.

SirB The fan looks good. Never used one with DS1.

scarlotti Hope you are both feeling better today.

hobnob Thank you for the tip on Ibuprofen. Didn't realise you could take it when bf. I need to find out what cough medicine I can take.

Thanks for all the well wishes. Am feeling ok today, not sure what that was yesterday - maybe too much sun?
Ioan is still poorly though so we'll be off to the docs today. He's off his food which is unheard of, and is coughing and being sick.
Was up between 2 and 4am so also a bit tired today - understatement!!

SirB at your bitchy friend. Am tempted to ask why you need friends like this around you? Can't see what she brings to the relationship tbh. Maybe it's just ignorance or jealousy on her part if she's bottle feeding.
Maybe you should invite her along next time we meet and I'll enlighten her about DS1's sleep habits - didn't sleep through until 8 months and was bottle fed!!

Night time here we are in a 0.5 tog grobag with a short sleeve vest. My room stays at a balmy 23 degrees during the night (that's Ioan and my hot faces emoticon!) as we're in the loft, so even when the rest of the house cools we don't.
Have never bothered with a fan of any kind as have always presumed the breeze is enough in the buggy. Although, will have to take off the underneath bit of the cosy toes off as he ends up with a sweaty back

Fruit DS1 was a wriggler for nappy changes, got to the point where I used to do it standing up on the windowsill so he had something to look at. We used to try and spot squirrels in the trees out the back!
DS1 also going through a 'challenging' period here, not listening, more demanding, butting in to talk etc. We started a marble jar yesterday for good behaviour as a friend has recently started on with her dc's. It's been a great hit and really works. He's chosen a treat (a dvd) to have once it's full and he earns them for good behaviour, kind words, helping etc. You can't take one away once it's earnt, but you can point out that naughty behaviour doesn't earn marbles.
We are decorating the marble jar after nursery today - he's really bought into it.

Ninja how are you doing? Any joy with your counselling?

Wook did your ds make it to school today?

Marble jar sounds good scarlotti I may well try it. I think DS1 is ready for big school now and gets bored at home when not at pre-school.

fruit for hayfever, I'm pretty sure you can take the Piriton syrup, which is suitable for children and pregnancy (not the one-a-day sort though)

I've also been wondering how to dress James in this heat. He's been sleeping in just a vest and sheet, but still seems warm.

Are people giving water as well as breastmilk? I'm trying to, but not much goes in!

wook we went to the Charlie and Lola play last month, it was really nice

sirB don't let your friend get to you. To be honest, nobody has a clue what life is like with a baby/ child until they get to each new stage, even though most people wouldn't be as rude as her. I thought this with my friends on Saturday who don't have kids. They were very nice, well-intentioned etc, but they didn't have a CLUE.

No routine here either. I am getting insanely jealous of those of you with 7pm bedtimes. James still feeds a lot in the evening and very rarely goes to bed before 9pm. I have had my first night out though (woo!) on my friend's hen night. DH had a bit of a tough time as he wouldn't take the bottle and DD wouldn't go to bed either (BTW, how rude is this - we were staying with FIL and DH's step mum, but they went out to the pub at 7pm until 11.30, leaving DH, who they haven't seen since Xmas, in on his own with their 2 grandchildren. Weird!). Anyway, James finally took milk mixed with mashed banana and water to drink, followed by the best night's sleep he's had in ages. I soooo didn't want to come home though.

Scarlotti she asked for my advice / help whilst she was pregnant, I don't actually know her particularly well - though am getting a bit fed up with her constant comments of how her daughter is being a pain in the arse and complaining how she hasn't got any time to herself Three days and night out / off being her daughter is two weeks and she hasn't got any time to herself... (Okay, now that bit is jealousy, I admit ). I am getting a bit peeved now, though.

I hope you feel better soon, and that it goes well at the hospital - if I can help at all, let me know.

Routine - we generally have one, though last night Bryn refused to sleep until gone 9pm Think he was too hot. He was just in a vest - but also boiling here, 24 degrees Off to buy some more fans today I think.

Scarlotti how many (approx) marbles would fit in the jar before it's full and he gets a treat? Sounds like a good idea.
Hope Ioan gets well soon.

Well the poor mite has broncholioitis (or something like that!) which is basically baby bronchitis It's viral so can't give him anything, and I have to sit it out. Doc says there will be another night or two of hell difficult sleeping and then he should be over the worst. He said not to worry about not eating as that is very sore for him, and also bf will be sore. Has given me the signs to look out for incase of dehydration or inability to breathe although said it's unlikely to come to that.
Managed to get him to eat a yoghurt and have a bf so feeling a little happier he's ok-ish.

SirB sounds like she's not overly enamoured at her new mummy status. Am amazed she has the desire to go out partying with a 2 week old!!
I'd say speak to me instead as there will be no tales of time to myself or sleep

Laugs agree, very odd with your fil I have washed out a baby food jar, one of the 7 month size ones. Reckon you would probably need about 25 to fill it, although I've yet to buy the marbles so will depend on their size obviously. He earned 4 yesterday though so I'm hoping it will be around a week at a time. We might have to start having cheaper treats though at that rate!

Fruit DS1 is at nursery every day, if he's home with me he's climbing the walls. With your CM hat on, am I able to leave Ioan with his CM tomorrow as he is? What's the rules on this sort of thing?

scarlotti poor Ioan. It's always best to advise the CM what's going on and then give her the option, if she wants to take him or not. If a child is back in the setting too early then it could have a knock on effect and infect the other mindees and the CM herself. I'm guessing he's not that contageous as he's getting over the worst of it. It's a difficult one. If he is well in himself tomorrow then the CM probably won't mind taking him. You can tell her to phone you to pick him up if he becomes upset and doesn't settle. Hope that helps.

Fruit thanks, when do you think I should let her know? I really can't afford to take the day off, so don't want to risk telling her too soon and then he's ok iyswim. On the other hand, I don't want him going if he's ill for his sake and also everyone else there.
The joys of being a working mum eh?!

You could call her first thing in the morning. She doesn't need to know earlier than that as you are paying for his space if he's there or not (I'm assuming that's the case). See what the morning brings and you'll know what's best. He may be feeling well tomorrow and you can play down what he's been like the last few days. I totally understand esp as you're in a new job. The same happended to a mum I knew. I took on her daughter and in her first week back to work, the little girl had V&D and had to stay away for a few days. Very stressful for the mum

Now you'll have to excuse me whilst I deal with my rather badly behaved DS1 I have left him at the dinner table moaning about his dinner and telling me it's a ridiculous dinner I've given him!! Chicken fingers and peas, with his favourite pitta bread as he doesn't like chips - what child doesn't like CHIPS?!! I have a strange DS at times.

Here in Oxford we are sleeping in a short sleeved/no feet babygro, with a blanket hastily thrown over before I go to bed. Went out to the park in just a vest today though!

(Both of the above ONLY about Rosa, rest assured )

Boiling, innit?! It's forecast to cool down here tomorrow and the next few days though and rain at the end of the week [grumble emoticon]

Laugs glad you had a good night out> It is such a pain to come homw though isn't it? Or more like, I really want to come home but just be able to collapse into bed and not have to worry about caring for a baby until, oooh, some time the following evening? Definitely weird about your PILs...

scarlotti sorry to hear about poor little Ioan! Must be really awful. Rosa's not been properly ill yet and I'm not looking forward to it when it happens Guessing you've been looking after a poorly little DS today too Nurse Wook since you've not been on. Hope he's on the mend soon.

And marbles in the jar is a classic teaching reward system! I used to use unifix in the jar (oh dear, sad teacher joke alert...) Glad it's working!

Fruit thanks for the advice, will see in the morning how he is. I've checked her website and it's not an exludable illness so hopefully all will be ok.

raggie interesting it's a teaching thing too! What are the rules then? Have been told that I'm not to take one away as it's been earned, and that he can't ask for one after doing something. Got some marbles at toys r us today for 99p!

raggie , sent ds to school today, mean mum that I am, as he kept his breakfast down and had no temperature. Would have kept him if there'd been a hint of lingering poorliness- I hate it when schools go on about 100% attendance being an amazing thing as I don't believe in sending ill child to school, but he was fine this morning, I think he may have had heatstroke yesterday?

Scarlotti poor poorly Ioan, miserable for him.

marbles we used to use a jar of marbles for babysitting in my NCT group. Everyone started with ten and paid one per hour of babysitting- if you got down to none (ho ho, I certainly never did!!) you had to get babysitting pronto to earn them back! Worked really well.

Hedy has started growling. She says 'gggrrrrrrrrrrrr ggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr' all the time. It is very, very odd. Shes usually trying to do something mad/physically dangerous at the time, usually involving climbing, dragging a heavy weight, going after something dangerous we haven't already moved, e.g. a hot drink or the cat or the fireplace grate. 'gggggrrrrr' she says. Ds at this stage just used to lie around looking adorable. Is it a girl thing?

Oh yeah, no routine to speak of here either, except for the natural one of taking/ going to get ds from school.
Always read 'Goodnight Moon' at bedtime as well.
And always fall asleep again in the morning so my cup of tea goes cold and wake to cold tea and H baffing at my face or pulling hair.
That's our routine!

Hi all,

I have been lurking but no time to post!

scarlotti hope Ioan feels better soon, poor thing.

Dh started his new job yesterday and we are moving across to Singapore on the 6th July. Now it is official I don't feel to bad about it, am trying to see it as an adventure and we will be home for Christmas and lot's of friends and family have planned to visit so am quite looking forward to it! I'm sure I'll still get quite homesick too though.

Weaning is going well here, Millie is having 3 meals a day and i'm doing a mixture of blw and puree's. However she is still waking up in the night for feeds! I'm wondering if she is waking up more in this warm weather because she is thirsty? Last week she started to sleep through till 3.30am for a quick feed and then sleep till morning but since it's been so hot she's been waking up all hours. They are so unpredictable aren't they, these babies?!

Did anyone watch lost? We watched it last night and i am more confused than ever! Just checked out the lost threads in telly addicts to see if I could get any explanations!

Helips Wow. It's official. Congratulations. You will still be able to MN won't you?! Rosa had some strawberries for brekkie today .She loved them! What a mess though... Like you, sometimes feeding Rosa if I choose to give her porridge etc but trying to give her things to pick up and chew herself too, in a BLW manner. She much prefers it that way I must say. Oh and I am waiting for Lost to appear on iTunes so no spoilers please! Or you DWB! Should be able to watch it tomorrow I think.

wook Rosa is a right little growler too. And grunter. And squealer. And rampager. And destroyer. We are bringing up STRONG WOMEN! Does weird me out when I look at friends' babies and they are all 'googoo gahgah' and Rosa is there going mad! And was at a mummy group last week when one little girl made a tiny whimper and her mum said ' Ooh, Jess is having a freak out about something!'. Er, no, not by my standards...

Off to a place called Milletts Farm this afternoon to see some animals! So, better get dressed I suppose...

Scarlotti I hope you had a better night last night and Ioan is well again soon. Poor lamb.

Helips it will be a fantastic adventure - what a wonderful story to tell Millie in the future too! Am excited for you

Raggie does BLW alter the guidelines for foods then? Its so confusing this feeding lark! Hope you have fun at the farm

Bryn is on napping strike here today. No idea what is wrong with him. He is currently wiggling next to me in just his nappy (its 25 degrees in my room) with no intention of dropping off to sleep even though he has been yawning for hours now. Am currently implying the Ignore At All Costs technique, which sometimes works, though its very difficult as he is trying to chat to me, and its very cute He is saying "Da da da" all the time now, and I must admit I am sulking slightly as I am doing all the hard work and DP is getting the first word

Another delightful episode in the story of Cot Bumper Girl Relations - this time about feeding. She posted (must stay away from facebook ) saying how pleased she was the little girl had slept through, and how fab it was she was only having three bottles a day as it was saving her so much money. I asked how many oz she was having in a bottle and she said 3. So that's only 12oz the girl is having in 24hours I asked if she had tried dream feeding or feeding more on demand than waiting for the hunger crying to begin, but she replied that feeding at night was a waste of time as she liked her sleep... sigh I stopped reading at that point! And she wonders why the girl isn't gaining any weight...

Sorry, 9oz. Must learn some maths skills before Bryn starts school!!!

Sirboob I have learned from experience that it's better to stand back and let people learn from their own mistakes. If it was a close friend or sister I'd suggest having a quiet word but not someone you're not very close too. Someone (her mum/sister/health visitor) will put her on the right track, don't worry. And the "hide" button on facebook is a marvellous invention!

raggie no spoilers from me! I enjoyed it, it's a great finale. Feels like you're saying goodbye to some old friends! Still need to mull it over and work out what it all meant myself. And congratulations on the new job if I haven't said already. I'm a lurker so sometimes forget what I've read and not commented on. What formula did you go for in the end? Ethan had his first bottle of cow&gate yesterday. Spat it out at first but my brother just explained to him that he didn't have boobs and Ethan apparently said "sound, uncle David" then got stuck in and had about 5/6oz. Seems to have digested it well so hopefully the dairy situation will get better in time. Second bottle due shortly, trying one a day for now.

pav Hope you're busy swimming in the sea and everything is ok! Noticed you haven't posted in a while. Almost Reuben's six month birthday!

DWB yes indeed, am loving the "hide" button

Have never watched Lost - is it any good? I couldn't keep up with FlashForward in the end either

scarlotti Hope Ioan is improving, that sounds nasty! Poor boy.

Helips what an amazing adventure! I hope you enjoy it and don't miss home too much.

Lost is all over now sirboob (cries into tea) but if you're ever at a loose end for around 108 hours I'd recommend working your way through the box sets. Best tv series ever!

Better than House? I don't believe it!