Jan 2010 babies and mummies here.....can't think of funny thread title!

[crumpette]

... sorry couldn't think of a title that didn't mention how to get orange poo out of a white vest, or how to get jiggy post partum!!!

Morning!

Back to normality this morning - was lovely having family time over the bank holiday. Yesterday was another uber lazy day - was freezing, so with the exception of a few walks, we stayed put!

Happy Belated birthday Maygirl! Sounds like a lovely afternoon! I dont know about all the other second time mums, but I look at Nico and wonder how I ever found a baby hard work! Next to DS1, he is so easy! All they need are cuddles, milk and a clean nappy! (unless of course the poor LO's are refluxy etc.)

Ali - what time did DH make it home?

New - how is Jack doing?

CTFN - Percy is uber cute!

WMDO - Hope your DS ok.

Re. the weightloss, not a clue but am back in pre pregnancy jeans (a whole 10 weeks later than with DS1, so feels like an age to me), so am very happy.

Hope everyone has a good day. I am about to start prepping our bedroom for the feature wall. Ordered lovely wallpaper and it required the walls to also be lined. Grrr. How to make my 'small' job a bigger one in one fell swoop.

Quick pop in loads to do now kids gone to school - Happy Belated Maygirl(q the whole screen name thing) Its seems like you had a wonderful birthday so thats great!
will have to catch up on other post later - im trying super hard to mantain a healthy balance of mumsneting so im not left out again! so far so good! bye 4 now! njoy your days

Don't know what time Dh made it home I sulked off to bed at 10.30.
He has some serious making up to do tonight lol.

Off to toddler group now it's quite fun x

I am officially banning myself from mumsnet!

I keep jumping on every spare minute which is wrong wrong wrong. Think Im using it as a way to zone out IYSWIM.

My ironing pile is bigger than me and DS keeps asking if im 'working' when im on the computer! .

So, Im having annual leave . I will return in 2 weeks. It will be like a MN diet!

Will be able to catch up hopefully! x

WMDO - that's what it's here for! Our zone out time. Lord knows we need it. x

Hi all, I have some catching up to do!

Babymoo is supposed to have her 2nd jabs today but she has a stinking cold so Im not going!

On 2nd thoughts, I may not do much reading as I have just seen posts about babies sleeping through the night Babymoo slept for 7 hours the other night but we are back to 2/3 times with her cold.

She has a mucous cysts (sp??) in her mouth - Anyone heard of that before? It looks like an ulcer on her lip but we have been refered to the hospital for that and her flat head

Happy birthday maygirl
Good luck with your MN diet wmdo ctfn lovely photos
mama2moo have never heard of that. Hope it is easily sorted.

had a lovely bank holiday. It was DH's friend's birthday party, and DD was generally adored by all, which was lovely. I ate too much pizza and cake though

Oooh talking of diet. I forgot the weigh-in. Lost 1lb, now 10st 1lb. .

WMDO guidelines different when little one has reflux and is vomiting up milk feeds, in those cases some solids can help baby keep more milk down, therefore more nourishment.

Fat club weigh in Wednesdays now for me, though prob not lost anything after the cakey weekend! Thanks for all bday wishes!

happy unbirthday maygirl

wmdo- you're on a MN diet!? Noooo!!! I hope you're all OK, if you're still about here's a link and this one is worth a read about alternative schedules, and I will ask my source for you if you like. Hope DCs are well I'm sure DS will be fine he's big and strongx

sooo.. fat club... when does this resume? I weighed myself today and lost weight!! I have been scoffing lots the past few days but was ill last week so might leave it til Monday for fat girl club's usual slot to make sure I really ahev lost weight

I had a crappy day! My bank card was eaten by an ATM and retained forever and my mobile phone somehow was dropped in the park, by me, while putting it back into my bag, and my neighbour now thinks I am scatty and useless strange person who loses everything as soon as she steps out the front door-RL is dangerous- I don't lose my bank card on MN

hope you're ok ali? and new, are you OK? New I am laughing at the idea of Jack trying to set you up with a doctor

Maygirl - I agree with your last post. Proof in the pudding so to speak. I've given Olivia a little baby rice, mixed with her hypoallergenic formula milk once a day, since last Friday and that is the only feed that actually stays down! Whilst her other feeds are nowhere near as bad as they were a couple of months ago before being diagnosed, she is still sick a lot. Basically the only thing extra she is getting at the moment is a bit of extra thick milk (c/o said baby rice). I was thinking of trying different stuff like fruit purees etc., but am just going to carry on with baby rice for now and build up the amount of times she has that over the weeks, probably until we get to 5 months, which isn't so far away.

It's very sweet, her little legs kick with excitement when she sees the spoon coming and she laughs like crazy with the rice in her mouth. Aaaaah.

Think Jacob is teething although can't feel anything he's chomping like mad dribbling loads and got rosy red cheeks.

ctofnI tried him with a bit of baby rice at the weekend but he wouldn't even open his mouth he was gagging at it he really does struggle to keep his milk down and feeding is becoming a nightmare again

At the hospital with Ds1 tomorrow and he wants to see Jacob at the same time. Still haven't had a letter about seeing a nurologist so I will chase that up too.

wmdo don't stay away too long

ali - how did you get on today at the hospital?

ctofn - so cute about Olivia getting excited about the prospect of dinner. Jack only does that with boobies and bouncing. I must point out I don't do them at the same time, I dont think he would like milkshake

crumpette - is your DP over his illness now or is he still suffering?

By the way whoever posted that they are now back in pre pg jeans (sorry my mind holds no info now!!) i'm very

ll - how are things with you and the girls? Are you more up to date with your mountain of paperwork now?

wmdo - you can't abandon us, you need to get me through this with your comedy rants. You particularly made me laugh when you pointed out that you dont ask your DH for his opinion on every little thing with Olivia.

So i literally had the night from hell last night with Jack. He got sleepy at about 630pm so I skipped his bath and went to get him straight to bed but he managed to projectile vomit his bottle again so I brought him downstairs. No matter what I or anyone else did he refused to go to sleep. He would go off then wake himself up which got very annoying after a while. He finally went to sleep at midnight and I got him in his cot but 25 minutes later he was awake again and I gave in the battle and had him in with me.

When does it get better? He's so clingy and it's even at the point he screams when he's in his pushchair because i'm not holding him. I do of course take complete responsibility for this for having spoilt him with hugs and not wanting him to cry since the day he was born.

Hi all - just to say had appt for 2nd set of jabs and i cancelled! i just couldnt go through with it!need to do my research and really think about it some more!
still struggling with bottle feeding he is not having it am i alone here?
Ali - i hear u with the teething dont know wots goin on but he is chomping down real hard on my finger, arm even on my nipple i think he just forgets and then "chomp"
WMDO - taking tome out from here is not a bad idea specially if you are not getting things done thats needed! you'll be missed, u may start having withdrawal from here!
New- ahhhhh so sorry about Jack, i went through that here too, it got better but now he falls asleep i may put him in his carseat and all of a sudden he just freaks out crying and his bodies is stiff like his in shock or got scared like a mini panic attack! so weird and he only stops if u pick him up still crying like its still bothering him!

Not looking forwards to tomo - schools closed due to polling station - ahhhhhhhhhhh - so all kids here again! it sounds bad but im blissfully happy while they r at school, so i have my head space, as soon as they come in its just noise, snack, drink, screams, fights, drama, moans etc - "im a mummy get me outta here"!
Rant over!

Ok Ok I can't do it....

Doctor phoned me tonight, it turns out I don't have low iron levels - I have an auto immune disease . Autoimmune thyroidism where the immune system is attacking the tyroid and it has now failed.

The cheery doc said _ if you were to pick an organ to fail this is the best one because it can be replaced with life long medication...

I know, im totally over joyed....

Im terrified though because ive been having chest pain and feel funny in the heart. Ive told DH a million times over last 3-4 weeks and he's thought I was nuts but underactive thyroid does this. It can 1) slow the heart rate right down and 2) cause heart disease.

Also, I have been suffering fatique for years and people were getting fed up with me moaning 'im tired' 24/7 but seriously, im constantly knackered and since DD, Ive been a total wipe out.

Well, ive been googling like mad and every page about undiagnosed thyroidism in pregnancy for the baby is bleak.
They all say it causes mental impairment, poor cognitive and motor skills, poor IQ averaging 85 and many other problems later in life.

I can't stop crying about what it might have done to Olivia and I won't know for ages . Might even have been in DS's PG as I have felt very fatigued for years, before his PG. I told the Doc about it years ago but nothing was ever done.

I can't believe I have this i see myself as a healthy person and nobody in my family has this.

On a brighter note....apparently thats why I have never been able to shift baby weight. Oh joy of joys, the doc will prescribe some drugs to me and over the next few months Im going to fade away heee hee. I bet your all jealous now....I might sell some to you, make some cash out of this !

WMDO - glad to see you are back, but very sorry to hear about the thyroid problem. I can totally understand the freaking out. FWIW, anytime I get something, I google like mad . However, Aunty CTOFN is now going to give some stern words to my friend WMDO!!

My cousin has this. It was diagnosed, ooooh, probably about 10 years ago now. Again, just through being mega tired, although that really doesn't describe the feeling, does it? Anyway, she is FINE!!! She takes medication for it, but hey ho, I take inhalers every day for asthma and anti-histamine for hayfever every day April-September. You get on with it. Life's a bitch... and then you marry one as my ex husbands have always said to me .

Now as for this silliness about what you've done to Olivia !! YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING!! You have not intentionally taken drugs, smoked during pregnancy, got sh*t faced every night during pregnancy - anything like that at all. You had an undiagnosed disease that you had no control over whatsoever. Whatever Olivia turns out like later in life, you will love her just the same won't you? My DD (7) is brain box of Britain... my DS (11) is absolutely not . Below average actually. I did everything right in the pg with DS and everything wrong with DD. Including their health. DS had asthmatic tendancies as a small child. I could not give up smoking with DD - she has NEVER had a problem. You love them both the same anyway.

My point is, that these health things don't always come to light. Sure - the medics have to say, ooh, there is a chance of this and a chance of that. I had to sign a disclaimer for my c/s that they MIGHT cut through my bowel... and my bladder etc. They didn't.

Do what you can to get your own health sorted, particularly the pains in the chese. Do go and see your GP asap, sit and have a good heart to heart about it (forgive the unintended pun there). But PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do not blame yourself and think you have done something to your children.

You may hate me for the "tough love" post above. But if you want to talk/email etc offline - email me on CantThinkofFunnyName at googlemail dot com.

xx

chese?? I meant chest of course... . Why am I up at this time? My DH signed me up to be a Board Director of a Guernsey company that he works "on the side" with and there is a Skype Board Meeting conference call at 7am that I have to attend. Why??? I know nothing. Bloody hell.

Thank you for your post.

I know I just panicked last night when he told me because I wasn't expecting to have anything.

Mainly it's Olivia though. I definitely will still love her the same that's not an issue at all.

It's how it will effect her life if she's slow at all. It's not going to be a great thing for her.

Im totally thinking the worst I know I am and probably due to being knackered.
Didn't fall asleep until 4.45am this morning then up at 6.30am so I will be seeing the worst because of that.

Alot makes sense now though. Ive been really anxious lately about everything and feeling low, not myself.
I have an appointment tomorrow about the chest pain and Im going to grill the poor Doctor about Olivia. Maybe grab him by the lapells screaming 'tell me what you know'!

Does your cousin have children? Did she get on top of it with the drugs?

Dh got diagnosed last year and now takes medication he did'nt have many symptoms and came as a complete shock.
He was having chest pains and panic attacks the doctor said it was all in his head eventually he saw a lovely gp who did his bloods and found his thyroid wasn't working.

He is doing fine on medication but still gets a bit anxious at times and has a few aches and pains.

Ds1 got on okay at hospital just a review really. I spoke about Jacob and he said it definatly soundS like some kind of seizures so he is going to chase up nurology appointment. He did mention something called sandifer's syndrome which is linked to reflux its the body's way of dealing with the pain he wants to see Jacob again in 6 weeks.

There you go WMDO - Alibobbin's DH has it too! My cousin's children were grown up pretty much when she was diagnosed. But she got on fine with the drugs, in fact, I'm sure I heard that it pretty much rectified over time..? But then again, my extended family aren't great at getting the facts straight so I may have misunderstood the last bit.

So... me and DH have just been and voted. He pushed the pram, I walked the dog - or rather the dog tried to walk me . Can't do both on my own just yet. Now he's rushed into town for meetings... back on my lonesome with the two again.

Yesterday I was supposed to be meeting some old work colleagues/friends in town for a very extended lunch. DH took day off so I could go and get pissed enjoy myself. Didn't happen though as work up feeling quite dreadful and actually slept most of the day. Yes, I often feel tired but this was more virus like. Anyway, feel better today . Right, now have voted, walked dog, fed him some treats. He is playpen... time to feed Olivia...

BFN x

CTFN you are some superwoman! Board Director meetings, voting with puppies and babies in tow! I need you to sort me out I got my forms to register for the electoral roll here, er, the day they had to be in so I can't vote (I know, letting down the sisterhood) but I think this is a very very safe seat so would have chucked my vote away anyway. Grr.

WMDO I can only echo what CTFN's post said. I'm sorry to hear your diagnosis but in a sick way the doc is right, this is the best thing to fail if anything is going to-- it's managable through meds and you should be back to normal soon with a few pills. I don't mean to be flippant, trying to be upbeat. I know you must be really terrified about Olivia, but it is very unlikely that it will have any effect on her at all. Babies take what they need from you, she will have had the best possible conditions in utero, iyswim, and the chances of her having long-term problems are very slim. Are you sure that you had this during your pregnancy, anyway? I haven't googled (yet)but I remember reading in a baby related book that thyroid disorders can develop after pregnancy. Are you totally sure you had this during the pregnancy- it could be a postpartum thing?

alibobins, glad they will chase up the appointment for you.

WMDO right ladypants, I have googled and have found 'Postpartum thyroiditis'

Are you sure it's not this? Most commonly presents 1-8 months after delivery, same symptoms and mechanism. Pregnancy, immune response and hormones postpartum can also activate inherent autoimmuine thyroid problems- so...

if it's any of that, Olivia shouldn't be affected at all..

Crumpette - trust me you would not want me to sort you out. You would throw me out of your house within 30 minutes (if you made it that long) . Mind you, I'd have made you kick your D P out first .

I would get your filing in order, create a system for your household stuff when it comes in to make you deal with it AND make you go out of the house on a regular basis!! Sounds hell doesn't it. See, that's why I have no friends and spend my life on MN!! .

x

Right - now going to sit on arse and watch American Idol from last night. Yes, I may have Board Meetings and be "superwoman" but I am exceedingly trashy...

crumpette Ladypants, ha!
Well, i wanted that to be the case but Doctor miserable was all doom and gloom and saying he didn't think so.

I kept saying, 'surely meds won't be for life, can I do something, diet, excercise'
he said no and with you and this type im sure it will be for life' .

I have complained of being really fatigued for years. Going back to 2003, I went to Docs complaining of being exhausted and I think they just checked iron. Anyway, I just lived with it thinking I was just a right tired bunny.
I was at Docs again January before I got PG complaining of same and again, nothing came of it. They didn't even check bloods then.

Im clinging to, maybe I had it to a degree and managed to get through most of the PG and it has been triggered into becoming alot more serious towards the end. Therefore Olivia has got what she needed.
I definitely have felt really bad/worse the last 4 weeks so thats good IYSWIM.

Think lack of sleep is making me P A N I C!

Got tablets today and am looking forward to walking upright and my speech returning along with the odd brain cell!