June mummies 2 - the gangs all here!!

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one crisp new thread!

Jonah - lol at you wanting 'me' (ie you) back before thinking about no 2 I want me back too - that's why I want to get all babies out of the way asap!! Poor dp - it's about time we got jiggy - if only for procreational reasons

Trib - really hope you've got a good HV who can support you it you need it. Is your dh particularly bad at the moment?
What's RSC? reluctant sleep something?? Love your reasoning about "trendy" islington baby philosophy

Bubbs - how on earth did you dare buy "Feminine Wash" at Boots?! I'd've been so embarrassed During my pg I had to buy some creme de derriere and almost died at the check out

MrsW - Aw, how sad but kind of cute that your ds1 "doesn't like" baby!

Tea - would you have bothered getting fit and toned and stuff inbetween your babies if it was just a matter of say, 3 or 4 months? So far from what's been posted, I think I'll "deal with the consequences later"...
Rofl at nu nu - I didn't know that!! . Do you really thing there's a chance you might be up le duff again?? You big softie crying at Amber's injections - I'll be the same I'm sure though...

Uwila - pmsl at you at "I really (can't) forsee myself having sex ever again anyway"

Btw, if anyone's interested, there was no colic in our house tonight (and he was here). I'm too tired to tell you why now, but will try to post tomottow

Morning All

Thanks for all the thrush advice. Sorry, I don?t think I made myself clear enough. I meant shooting breast pains. Lua, I?ve checked inside DS?s mouth and I can?t see any white patches, but I do know that the mother can get it and not pass it on straight away. I?ll have a look at the links you suggested ? many thanks.

Tea, lol at the wet patches. It happened to me in my last ante-natal group meet up. I looked down and saw a massive patch of baby sick. I thought that company more than any other would let me know . I did tell them off though for not drawing my attention to it and leaving me to sit there looking ultra glam with baby sick dripping down my black top.

Charley, good for you for wanting to get jiggy. As well as all the other obvious reasons (ie, I don?t like pain), I find that having DS in the same room a real turn off. The fear of waking him up, plus listening to his endless snorting and grunting would kill off any passion I felt

Mrs W, your DS1 will come round, I?m sure.

We had an interesting night last night. Getting DS to settle at 7pm is a bit hit and miss, so for the last 2 nights, we have put him down, awake and grumbling, to see if he drops off. Mon night he didn?t, but last night, he grumbled for a while, I went to check on him, he grumbled a bit more, then he dropped off on his own . I was SO pleased and will keep trying this in future. It?s the first time he?s done this in the evening. Normally, if he doesn?t go down straight away, I have an irritable baby and a stressed me all evening, so this was a real result. Fingers crossed for tonight?

jonah-i thought you meant shooting pains in your leg-doh!.

cant believe i tried to vacuum earlier and for the forst time ever ds screamed the place down-it doesnt normally bother him.oh welll...looks like i'll have to wait for him to go to sleep.

mandy-yes we're going to be using the dreaded condom for a couple of months.our doctor says there's a silicone one out called advanti which are meant to be very good.
LOL at the wet patches.

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Oh Lynny. Sympathy here. I haven't got a psycho XH. But he sounds horrid. I think you are doing the right thing in not jumping to his beck and call. I certainly wouldn't like to be manipulated like that. Perhaps he could make a bit of effort with Leona rather than shipping her back at the first sign of trouble???

HAng in there and have a good day with Jess.

PS A good friend of mine had a daughter Jessica who sadly died several years ago when she was 10. We used to call her Jess. So whenever you type "Jess" I think of her and it brings a smile to my face. Oh that was soooo mushy. Sorry.

Anyone heard from Megi?

Hello Everyone!

Long time no speak! I intend to fully make amends and post regularly again from now on. Motherhood as brought with it an incredible social life which I just can't keep up with! I have decided that I must start spending a bit more time at home doing mundane things and conserving my cash!

Lucy is now getting quite big, although she's really small (on the 9th percentile) and ditty. I think that having a small baby has lots of advantages though, not just the obvious. For instance, when people give you really awful clothes you can argue that she'll NEVER fit them in season so you HAVE to take them back and exchange them!! The disadvantage is that wherever you go, you get stopped. I went to Asda's with her in a Tomy Carrier and got stopped about 25 times! I kept forgetting what I needed to get, so the shopping took me twice as long (need to start making lists!!).

Am re-assured to see that we are all suffering the same or similar anxieties. I want my figure back so badly! I put on 3 whopping stone!!! I have lost a measly half, but am intent on getting rid of the rest. The copious amounts of wine we seem to glug of an evening isn't helping...

Is anyone planning any meet-ups soon?

Lucy has her jabs this afternoon, so I will get her weighed so I can compare notes with Charley, Pink, Cobweb, Mirage, Bero and Tea and anyone else of similar birth weight.. I do worry she's not putting on enough and THEN I worry that she's fat!!! How irrational is that??

Speak later xxx

Lynny - Stand strong. You know what they say, "A mother knows best". x

Southern meet number 3 . Hope to see you and Lucy there!

Sept. 03
12:00
Chili's in Reading

I'd love to come, as posted on other board, I need to check with the boss that I can steal his princess away for the weekend! x

afternoon all.

Well the spa was shear bliss, so lovely to not be mummy for 2hrs!! DD2 managed without me but was very hungry when i got back. we then took her out for dinner with us in the evening and slept so well that we nearly forgot she was there.

Off on hols tomorrow so will be back sometime around the 20th so no talking between now and then or it will take me 2 days to catch up!

re thrush we've had it here, some cream fromm the gp soon sorted it

Hello
What a day I have had. I am not sure who has done the most shouting/crying me, dd1 or dd2. Yesterday was so great on the toilet training. We had two wees and one poo in the toilet and only one accident. I was planning to really concentrate on it today as I had no reason to go out and we have not managed to get to the toilet once! First accident while I was changing a screaming dd2 and I wasn't listening to dd1 and second big accident when I finally got the time to hang the washing out and left dd1 in the house soooo I don't know if she tried to tell me or not. She doesn't like the potty and wants to use the toilet which is fine by me but only works if I am around. DH took her to the beach this pm so she was in the water and in a swim nappy so i don't know if she needed to go this afternoon. Her lunchtime nap nappy was wet too, not that she had her lunchtime nap despite getting up at 6am. Today is the first day I tried to lie down with dd2 and have a rest at the same time. I should have known better. I am also feeling quite lonely and miss all my friends and family who I have spent such a lovely four weeks with. DD1 needs someone to play with as there is no creche or musical tots etc during the school hols and normally I would have someone round but I can't be bothered to speak to the adult parent. How bad is that? The one lady I would like to see is on hols and all have school age kids and so can't drop by. Ho hum. Sorry for the rant. I am exhausted and feel like the worst parent in the world today. I feel I have angry hormones today too and a severe lack of patience. DD2 really struggled to sleep at all today and so my time with dd1 was strained. We did make cakes but that had to be very rushed as dd2 woke up half way through when I was expecting her to have a longer nap.... I keep saying there will be good and bad days and so today was just a bad one. i wanted someone to take them both away this morning and it wasn't even 9.30. dd1 was just saying no to everything and my patience was shot. anyway I know alot of you will be in the same boat. more in a minute.

Welshie - I am jealous of your walking to nice coffee shops. It sounds very civilised. It is too hot to walk anywhere at the moment, and whn I have I have to do it so slowly it won't be burning any calories at all. Everything is shut on camp at the moment so it is a bit dead anyway. September will be better. Thanks for the good wishes about toilet training. What did you do about going out in the car etc?
The sleep counsellor sounds like a great idea. I beleive in taking any help you can get. Go for it.
Hi Lynny - Thanks for your notes about the coil. Sory for my rant. You are up against alot more than me and doing great.
EYM - I am breastfeeding and have been told that they can fit the coil from 6 wks post birth. They like to do it about 12 wks here but I don't know why. I am hoping not to have had a period by then. Went on the mini pill after dd1 at 6 wks so didn't get a period until a few weeks after I stopped b/feeding at 12 mths.
PND tests are very odd I have decided. After today I want to change all my answers lol.
Lua - did you try cat-ing me?
Uwila - I was told that the normal coil is 95% effective but the mirena is 99.9%. I will be double checking before I go ahead.
I WILL be having a much better day tomorrow. We are planning to go and see the donkeys in the morning while my cleaner is here which involves a drive meaning dd1 is occupied looking out of the window and dd2 will be asleep in the car. Means the double buggy is used too hooray and I need to justify its use now lol. It is great though. Recommend to anyone.
Take care all.

Katz, have a lovely holiday!

Scraggy, good to see you again and glad to hear Lucy is thriving.

Lynny, your ex is an arse. In a nice way, I hope you didn't bring Leona home, you really need some time for yourself, for you and dh and for you, dh and Jess. I'm sure Leona will be fine at her dad's til Friday, and whether or not he's fine with it I couldn't care less

Tea - I took extra outfits for us and the baby to the wedding at the weekend in anticipation of mass baby vomit. In fact none of us needed a wardrobe change but best to be prepared I think! Mind you having FIVE changes for Toby was possibly a little excessive. I also took six bottles "just in case", despite the fact we were only out for 8 hours.

Charley - RSC was meant to be RCS, which is the reluctant co-sleepers club.

Back on the ever-popular subject of poo, ds now hasn't been for 2 days. One of my neighbours has suggested a little water which has been boiled with raisins in. Dh thinks this is a v bad idea
because of the yeast potential, any views from here?

Well, hv came round today to inform me I had scored "rather highly" on my PND questionnaire, but seemed to think it was fine that I was unhappy provided it wasn't baby-related Clearly it doesn't count if it is depression you are feeling post-natally, but not actually post-natal depression Nah, she was actually a bit more sympathetic than that but she did start off with the "so, it's not the baby, that's fine" approach. Really must post separately about this, I begin to feel that a week off would probably be the best thing for dh as well, so he could sleep and sleep and sleep.

Coop, you're really putting yourself through it trying to toilet train so soon after the birth of dd2! Is there a particular reason? (Can't remember if you've mentioned this before).

When you move, are you coming back to the UK or is dh being posted somewhere else?

As to not wanting to speak to the adult parent, surely this is a positive advantage ... can you not say "oh, I'll take such-and-such for you, give you a few hours off" - and then get them to return the favour another time?

I'm a bit bewildered as to why things like the creche and whatnot don't run during the holidays. Is it just because everyone is meant to be away on holiday? (It's the same here, most of the mum and baby group things I could join aren't happening cos of the school holidays). Surely no-one is away for the whole time.

hello all
quite tired today taking abreak while dh looks after dd. poor thing still cranky due to her cold.
dd now 10wks. re contraception only condoms will do, i have PCOS so no messing about with hormones. i want to try for another child at some point, it took ages to get this precious one after miscarrages and so on, not getting any younger.
will have to loose weight too otherwise no ovulation and other nasties, since i put on over 3 stone that might take some time. dh overindulged as well during pg so has a belly of his own to loose, we keep each other away from too many treats.
its nice that dd can take bottles of ebm from dad, has done so from birth gives me a break.
meet sounds nice but not driving so outside london bit of a problem maybe another time

sfxmum-know how you feel.i also have PCOS and spent about 7 years ttc ds.we also want another fairly soon but i've also got a fair amount of weight to lose.i only put on about one and a half stone when pg,but was very overweight to start with and still am.think i might try and lose some weight first.

nice to see you back scraggy.

Tribpot - I'm trying to find somewhere ie: mothers & babies group locally to go too, but am finding they are all closed until september . I live in an area with load of young babies, the high st is buggy central, but I don't have a way of getting to know other mums (apart from stalking ). I did check out the library today and they seem to have something for a half hour on a Friday (whoop de do), so I might check that out - or just lurk around the baby book section - hee hee.

Cooperoo - Hugs - I've only got dd to cope with and was in tears by about 11am today, dd just won't nap and so is getting over tired, grumpy, screaming etc. Got no sympathy from her by crying . And apparently telling her to be quiet doesn't work - (surprised emoticon). I felt like a terrible mother. It was our 7th wedding anniversary today and we were going to try and go out with dd for a very early dinner at a local bistro, but ended up cancelling that and getting a takeaway delivered, just not the same. Got a top pressie from dh though, voucher for luxury pedicure and spa massage at local beauty salon. .

Fingers crossed for tonight

Mandy, have replied to you on the other thread, for what it's worth - not that I have the FAINTEST idea what I'm talking about, I think I should add!

PLEASE don't feel you are a bad parent because dd cries. I think they should hand out cards on the post-natal wards that say "sometimes babies cry". I know I am exactly the same, I cannot bear it when he cries. But rationally I know it will all be okay and it is 100% NOT YOUR FAULT.

Happy wedding anniv, even if you couldn't get out I am sure this is the most special one you've ever had. At least you can order takeaway, we can't do that cos of dh's food allergies Only home-cooked food for us! (Damn him)

Best of luck for tonight. I have tracked down a group through the NCT but most of their summer events would involve driving, and I'm not quite up to that just me and ds yet. NCT lady is lovely though and came round tonight so we have made contact. Roll on September, not too long away!

Thanks Trib. You are right about the toilet training so soon. I think I am so keen as dd has been showing all the signs for a while now and I was putting it off as it was such a bad time for me. I thought this would be a good time as there is no creche etc so we will be at home a lot plus it is hot so she can run around in just knickers (or nothing at all). I have decided that I am putting too much pressure on myself (and therefore probably on dd too) and am going to chill out a bit more today. It will be so nice to ditch one lot of nappies though, esp as I use cloth and so my changing bag resembles a laundry bag at the mo with all the nappies, muslins and changes of clothes , not that we have even been going anywhere . However it won't last forever and I know I will be wishing for this time back again soon. I read Gina's potty training in a week when I was home and was going for that, but I don't know why as I ended up in the same state yesterday that I did when I tried her contented baby routines ie feeling a failure for not getting it licked.... I should have known better. I sometimes feel I am keen to help others and offer advice but can't see the sensible solutions for me. Lack of common sense. That is why I appreciate you lot so much. Right of for a shower now as dd1 and I have finished breakfast. Have good days all.
Happy Anniversary Mandy.

mandy-ive also found that all the mum and baby groups around here are closed for the holidays,but it wont be long before they open again.dont know about where you are but there's waiting lists here,and i havent even put our names down yet,so i better get a move on.

happy anniversary.it was ours on the 22nd june and also never got out-ds was only 3 days old.

Oh Coop I know exactly how you feel about feeling a failure if the baby doesn't do 'Gina'. That's how I felt with dd when I was trying to do the contented baby with her - crap every day and it's why I'm trying not to get too hung up on strict routines.
Trib - you're right though - part of me really would like a routine - just so I know what to expect a bit more. I wish I did live in the trendy-organic-funky bit of Islington - unfortunately I'm in the more scuzzy Holloway bit - hence the walking
Uwila - I'm with you on the more babies front - tomorrow is all about handbags and shoes - no more nursing bras after this one

bubbaloo- re pcos after much research i decided against any drug treatment and went for diet and exercise it really worked, but diet must be sensible and not cut out all fats and so on very similar to Gi thing. with dd i have no idea how i will fit in the exercise at all.
re gina never understood why she so successful, (although i guess it works for some people)have strong dislike for all of it. i believe in routines but not strict timetables at all.i do feed on demand too but i think after a while you really get to know the child, and yes babies do cry that is how they communicate to start with. and we feel crabby sometimes and there is nothing wrong with throwing a wobbly once in a while, be it mother or child

i'm not convinced that Gina is ALL that sucessful just lots of people buy her book. look down this thread and you'll see how many peple own her book. huge sales doesn't equal a huge sucess!!! i know soo mnay mums who own her book and threw it away within days!!!

morning all

off on hols tonight, well travelling to kent to stay at friends and then onto france on saturday am, must find the travel sickness bands, no tablets for me!!!