Discussion amongst Mums with babies born in December 2008

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Hope you all can find it, Moms title was perfect I thought.

Ahh but surely the computer doesn't weigh more than ds Just realised blackout blinds won't work with exisitng blinds in place duh. Might have to skip Argos and go crack den style ala Aubi!

Bean I meant to say, I did laugh out loud at your scrotums dh told me last night I have udders he's right - and they are massive! They went back to normal after ds but won't hold my breath this time. I'm not loving the new boobs at all which is quite unusual. They are always getting in the way and are resting on my bump now which I suspect won't work well as it gets hotter and sweaty in the fold

Right can't decide what to do for the arvo. Might knock the idea on the head as traffic will be starting up with the school runs and it will only mean spending unneccesary money if I go out.

WG, did you say why you are feeling down? I thought you just said life in general?

Daisy are you coming back soon?

Hey SL - I agree on schooling - ie state for primary and maybe private for secondary - but even that is a total rip off. I was lucky enough to go to private for secondary and loved it (not first attempt, though, where I was bullied into leaving, but after that was brilliant!).

Re the offer we had, went back with a counter offer, but they've said that they can't afford it, so that's the end of that.

I'm back on speaking terms (albeit by email) with Beryl. However, they have asked if I can start my maternity leave 10 days earlier so they can fit in with new people to take over the nannyshare. Erm. We're on 2 months notice and I told them my date about 3 months ago!!! I can understand where they're coming from re needing someone to take over and can look into it for them, but we've worked everything around this date of 20th May and it's really hard to change it. Plus she said "let me know when you can. I need to make a decision by the end of today". WHAT!!! Honestly! DH is on holiday so I definitely need to discuss it with him, and I need to have a meeting with HR! A little unreasonable, non???!

Rubes - your working hours sound lovely! But if you're not into it (as I'm not!) then anything feels unreasonable!!!

JJ - I missed your post entirely in my last one! My scrotums are now things of beauty again. Phew! Pumped up and ready to go!

And DD is in a MaxiCosi Tobi forward facing car seat, which I think is brilliant. She's been in it since she was about 9 months I think. And she loves it. And it lies back well enough for her to sleep in too and reallye asy to use.

Rubes - your post about sweating under-titcarriage has reminded me of a dream I had the other night... Bear with me as will make it quick. I dreamt my preggy belly was so massive that I couldn't really see under it and when I finally managed to lift it in front of a mirror, it was covered in disgusting sores from the fat, smelliness of it! How disgusting is that??? Clearly I am obsessed with it!

sorry to post about the Beryls again, but it's such a good way to let off steam on here!

beans I thought rubes was disgusting with her sweaty boobs, but that is truly gross!!

OOOOOH...how annoying is that re Beryl. I would reply and say "If you need an answer by the end of today, it's no, sorry."

jj The house we were looking at is near Milton Road primary, so up slightly north Cambridge. I think I have gone off it now though, will have to see when DH is back from snowboarding. Would your DH consider moving somewhere like Histon which is near town but the schooling is good?

Oh and DS is in a forward facing car seat now, it is a Britax one I think. I didn't know you could get rear facing bigger ones?

HAHA! Sorry SL - it is a bit grim. I woke up a bit repulsed at myself!!!

I've said basically that. But very nicely and that I'll look into it for her but won't be able to give her an answer until the end of this week, and possibly the beginning of next week. Seriously to ask me to give an answer by the end of the day you ask on something that big, is a little silly. Nits.

I didn't know you could get rear facing big car seats either. I wouldn't want to be in one myself - would probably vomit!

WG sending you hugs poppet. We need to get a date to catch up asap after Easter. Sorry you are feeling down. I know you are thinking of your weight from a TTC perspective but if it makes you feel any better I always think you look fantastic and voluptous in all the very best ways (reread that and it sounds freakily stalkerish girl-crush but hope you know what I mean).

It is so exciting that Mat Leaves are beckoning for you ladies!

beans Beryl is BANG out of order - I really feel you should stick to your guns and continue working until YOU are ready given that this date has been in the diary for months.

trace really hope your CPN meeting goes well.

oops door bell

thanks Turnip - I've been firm but fair in my response. She has also rung (which I ignored, maturely) and just emailed again to see if there was another route I could go down rather than finishing work early. Hello? Is she thinking nursery? If she is, then I'd want to take Izzy out of share now to settle her into nursery. There is no way I'm putting DD in nursery for 2 weeks to completely unsettle her, then move house, then have a new sibling arrive!!! She wants me to call her this afternoon to discuss. Absolutely not going to discuss it with her before I discuss it with DH.

Mind you, she hasn't mentioned nursery, so I may be jumping to unfair conclusions. But so far I haven't been wrong in my assumptions!

beans Beryl is CRAZY!She seems to expect the world to jump through her hoops to make life perfect for the Beryls. Grrr. You seem to have the right attitude about it all.
Turnip Hi! Nice to see you. How are things?
jj P is in a forward facing seat now. It's an age 9mths to 4 years one I think. She seems to like it because she can see out of the window
CPN has been and gone. It was good - only very few tears. Good to let her know how things have been, but I have a niggle that she's fed up with me and is wishing I was better and off her books now. I mean Lucy is going to be 6 this summer. How ridiculous is that? Why can't I just plod on steadily like everyone else? Oh well don't want to get stuck in self-pity so I'll think of something else now. Like rainbows
Well the house is generally cleaner and tidier now, the picture we got given when P was born has finally gone up on the wall, the blackout curtains have gone back up (can't remember why I took them down last year at some point!), and I'm about to embark upon the ironing. But it's not all work - I've watched location Location Location too!
Must press on... back later xxx
Veggie - you missed your morning coffee - where are you?

Oh ok. I am going to eat my words. I have jumped to conclusions and now feel bad. I called Beryl because actually better to clear the air and speak directly. Was fine and nice to speak to her. But she wasn't actually asking me to have a decision today, but wanted to see if there was any way at all we could change it. And if we can't it's not the end of the world. She was very sweet and I feel bad I've slagged her off so much. Oops. Sorry all! Plus email is not the best place to talk about these things, far better to speak in person than over the ether as meanings can be read wrongly in email... Trying to relieve my conscience. Think I've been a bit of a cow.

Trace - well done you on being more upbeat - you are so lovely and it doesn't matter how long it's been - 6 years or 6 hours - it only matters how you feel. Things will get better. I always think of Father Christmas when I think happy thoughts...

Turnip - I forgot to say how nice it was to hear from you!!! Sorry!

Oh and she asked me to tell DH that it was just a request, not a demand as she doesn't want him hating her even more than he does already. I actually felt v sorry for her for a moment! But haven't forgotten how bloody ridiculous they were about DD's "illnesses" and treating her like she had bubonic plague!

Hello all, especially WG - been wondering how you are, hope you are feelign more cheerful. I entirely sympathise with general cloud of gloom feelign at the moment, I am the same myself (though pleased to report that though she is still sleeping very badly, DD is now very cheerful, which makes a nice change!). Hope you are doing ok!

Re BF and teeth, admittedly DD still only has a grand total of 3 but has only ever "bit" once or twice and it wasn't really deliberate, think she was just messing around. I said "No!" very firmly when she did it and I don't think she has since (gosh, does that mean she actually DOES listen to me/ understand me? Who knew!?)

Aaah Kiwi there you are! Glad dd is cheery these days. Perhaps it's the weather!

JJ - forgot to say earlier DS is also in the Maxi Cosi Tobi - it's brilliant. he went in it about 13 months and he loves it - he had been dying to face forwards and just looks at everything plus sleeps well in it too. He would go crazy if he faced backwards still and couldn't see where he was going.

Summer - me discusting?! Glad you changed your mind! I only have udders which have potential for under-hang sweat in the coming months but Beans had scrotums which have now developed sores!!

Too bad about the house offer Beans - but remember it's not over yet they may be letting you "think" and come back again.... stay firm.
Don't worry about the beryls - I frequently do that re: emails and bitch mil out to dh then talk on the phone to her and feel like crap cause I've usually jumped to conclusions! It's hard when it's typed - it's amazing we all get along on here typing all the time.

haha! it wasn't my scrotums that had sores - just my belly overhang. Nice!

Hurray for good moods from DD Kiwi - that's great news!

Gosh, I need a wee again. Anyone else reached that stage of duffness yet? Rubes - is it you or SL due next in line? I can't remember - I'm rubbish!

And Rubes - v glad you've done the same as me. I rush to be mean, when I should be the better person and rush to be nice. But it's more fun to be evil. hee hee.

I'm off home shortly to have a bath with DD - can't wait!!!

Beans I'm right there with you at that stage of duffness.
Need to pee every bloody second then it's a trickle then off we go again! So much so that it's affecting my fluid consumption for fear of not having a toilet close by!

Gosh sorry all non-preggo's with all this boring preggo related symptom whining we do!

Yes, I have to stop drinking too much liquid by 8.30 at night or I'm up 3 times for a pee. Minging.

Apologies for boringness too! x

Don't worry gals - we remember oh to well all those symptoms. Feel free to share as much as you want. I have to say I am rather [smug] about not having to go through pregnancy again (but will be very jealous when you have your lovely newborns in your arms!)

Ooh - just had a text from LadyT. Risk 1 in nearly 3000 so she is very relieved and staying in town to celebrate with DP. Sure she will be on tomorrow to let us know all the details.

Glad things better with Beryl, Beans, just cos she's been nice today doesn't mean she hasn't massively overreacted before. You are very forgiving .

T asleep tonight by 6.30 (aargh, what ungodly hour can we expect him to arise at tomorrow?) and coughing like crazy, he'd slept through for a grand total of two nights before being up all night again last night screaming with his teeth. And he still only has 4.

Kiwi, so glad things are cheerier on the babypanda front, it does make the days easier if you're tired but they're happy - rather than both of you being whingeing wrecks .

Trace, a lot of people who appear to be plodding along steadily just haven't had the courage to ask for the help they need as you have , please don't feel bad for needing a service that's there for you.

As we are talking all things houses - just feeling a little low about my situation as the reality has hit that we've been renting a house here that is waaaay beyond our means and we need to cut our outgoings by half. The places we'd been looking at to possibly buy are hugely out of our league (i.e ones similar to the one we're renting now) and the fact is to get 3 beds (we need 3 because DP and I both work from home) we need to move somewhere really grotty, or get a teeny tiny flat somewhere we'd be happy to live it.

I know that sounds incredibly like middle class self pity (which is is), I guess I'm just going through sadness about what I thought things would be like and how they really are. Better make the most of the lease here I s'pose!

LadyT - how was the scan?

Turnip you beat me to it! Was just about to update about LadyT too!

3 times beans? I'd be up 5 at least - but I have a bladder the size of a pea even when not pregnant

Gosh it has taken me ages to catch up with you lovely ladees!

Sorry have been AWOL. DH had a job in Brugge so we all went down to enjoy the hospitality of Crown Plaza Burg square. Tres nice esp as they upgraded us to a big posh executivey room cos of DHs platinum status thing on his IC card! We were supposed to get some special chocolates too but they dissappeared on their way to the room.

Brugge was gorgeous, really beautiful. The weather was great so we didn't go to any museums just ate chips & chocolates and spent lots of time in a nice park with the best play area EVER! (and I've been to a lot of 'play areas').

Anyhoo I canna remember much of what as said except for WG sorry you feeling blue. I thought of you while away as we were watching CBBC and saw your DH on a hilarious show. There was a skit with some Vikings which was so funny. I can't remember what the show was called but it was brill, with all the usual suspects comedy wise, that I didn't realise did a kid's show?!

Trace sorry your feeling a bit like this is taking forever to get sorted, I'm not sure what to say to help but I think your brilliant. I'm sad your not on a day off tomorrow, I'm a bit tired and fancy a virtual coffee morning with you camped out on my sofa.

Reason for tiredness is DS2 is teething on mass, I looked in his mouth and it literally looks like the remainder of his teeth are all coming through at once! The upshot of that is he wakes at around 5 am and whines and wiggles and feeds on & off until 6.30-7am at which time he either wakes up fully or falls into a deep sleep.

I had another bout of mastitis while away, thankfully sorted it out with booby massage and regular feeds on that side (lucky for the teething). I also discovered why I've had the 2 bouts recently. I realised that I got these lovely new bras but haven't been pulling the cups down properly when I feed him so I think they've been blocking off some of the ducts.

Oh dinners ready will be back later with car seat stuff and school/house dilemmas.

Hi everyone, such a long time since I?ve been on and I have missed you all. I?ve had a stupidly over the top cold (verging on man flu) for the last 2 weeks and every day has been get up, get through the day, get back to bed as quick as possible. But at last I?m emerging from the other side of it (although still with a terrible old man cough, which has lead me to start working my pelvic floor again ? yuck, thought it wasn?t so bad )

I?ve skimmed very quickly ? but I?ve clearly missed a treat of a thread ? the link to the discussion that started it on the previous thread isn?t working anymore, and I really wish I?d managed to read it!! (although if it like I imagine it is, I doubt my poor pelvic floor could take it)

Also noticed whilst skimming that Effie and Daisy were at Liverpool Uni at the same time ? so I stalked you on fb, and I was there then too! To think that we all could have met over 10 years ago, but circumstances have waited until now.

Anyway, will continue with the me post ? DD is now in her forward facing car seat, which she loves, just like all your babies it seems. And this weekend she took her first wobbly steps ? so so cute [soppy ]. We almost missed it ? she?s loves playing with her ball (and is surprisingly good at throwing and catching for a baby), so I said to DH shall we get the ball and play catch, to which DD must have heard and crawled off the get the ball. We were both in shock that she?d understood, and were wittering on about what other words she knows and that we hadn?t tried to teach her, when she stood up and wobbled back to us. A child genius!

Big kisses to you all, and I hope your LO?s ones are being as gorgeous as mine is at the moment (well in daylight hours anyway ...)

Hooray for walking ZJ very exciting. Also sharing your amazement of language develoment. DS2 seems to be absorbing word understanding at the moment. DH has found that he is understanding a lot of Chinese too, if he asks him sonething simple he responds appropriately. Very exciting (though just a teeny bit jealous myself) still no more spoken words, or more importantly no 'mama' yet.

As far as car seats DS2 has been in the forward facing since 9 months. We also have the maxicosi one not sure if it's the tobi must be I guess. We had a britex one for DS1 but got a new one for DS2 because it didn't last for DS1. Well before he hit the lower limit for the next seat up (15kg) he was starting to be quite squished and uncomfortable in the old car seat, in particular his shoulders. He's not got particularly broad shoulders, but the britex was tapered at the shoulder height whereas the maxicosi was flatter & wider there IYSWIM. I don't know if the new britex are the same but it's worth looking out for when buying a carseat.

Sorry about your school/house dilemma JJ. We were really lucky with the school we found for DS1 here and when we go home he will continue in Montessori education but we'll have to pay for it over there. I think I would go for the moving option however not to put a downer on it but that may still not make it defnite. I had a friend who bought a house to get them in the catchment for a good school but unfortunately there were loads of other applicants who lived even closer! In the end they had the expensive house and still had to pay for private primary school. Does it help your application that you are regular church attenders and quite active in the church, choir etc?

warning, it'll be a long one...

Hello hello ? sitting at home, alone with only the laptop and telly for company (oh, and baby monitor, of course). Does anyone else find they get so much more done of an evening when their dh/dp isn?t there? Have just been watching the delicious miss dahl. Oh, what tosh. Have just had a fb rant about it.

Have just read over the last few posts, so here are a couple of personals from my notes... i will have forgotten someone, i know, so apologies:

mom - how exciting and how weird about hte different preggers tests. Keep us informed. Oh, and i also second metanium. Oh, and i, too, am snatching some extra horizontal moments through a bit of a morning bf. Only bf we are doing now.

Yay for the scans ? ladyt, rubes, and sl (beans you are way ahead, aren?t you?)

You?ve all been doing some strange property porn stuff without me ? weird! Hope all those trying to sell/buy are doing well and not going out of their minds ? it is a horrid horrid process.

JJ - yay for the dress and its results! Madam has been in her forward facing maxi cosi priori carseat since new year. It took ages for her to get used to it ? she screamed and screamed for a week or so and now loves it. Falls asleep no probs in it. We haven?t gone for the isofix because we need to take it abroad now and again. Also ? that sounds like a dilemma re: schools. Can?t help but can empathise.

beans - norks turning into scrotums made me laugh so much! I get such a sense of you from your posts and every time i walk through Clapham junction station to work (only once a week), i think of you and our preggers meeting and that lovely pizza place. Also, beryl is seriously odd, even if you had jumped to conclusions. Good on you for handling her with such equanimity (oh, hell, is that the right word? How much did my parents pay for my education (privately educated)? Which university did i go to?(one of the biggies) ugh)

effie - ouch. And trace reminded me, how is your mum?

invis - any more news on the possible job and possible move out west?

daisy - sorry to see you go. Hope you can lurk and come back soon.

trace - hello, lovely ? so nice to hear you and thanks for asking. I hope you are feeling better after your meeting ? you are doing so well, you really are.

rubes - exciting to hear about hte date!

kiwi - sorry you?ve been having such a tough time, but glad to hear it is slightly better now. I think you just have a tricky and demanding lady on your hands, who will, no doubt, blossom into a gorgeous, talented, individual young lady. Probably much like yourself. Oh, and girls from my year at school are trying to organise a reunion through facebook ? it?s mental seeing what everyone is doing now ? some people are right proper bonkers crazy!

dora - welcome!

turnip - you are such a love. "voluptuous? ? thank you, lovely.

Right, i?m posting this and then will get onto a post about me.

Oh and Rubs I recommended taking weekly nutritional requirements rather than daily. But I can't take the credit for the idea, it was some paediatrician.

Is it just me that believes that this thread is going to be a lot less entertaining when Beans & Rubs have their babies, you guys are hilarious. SL has managed to remain quite on the ball.

Hi WG I'm currently on the couch trying to motivate myself to get up and go to bed. So difficult, I'm so tired that walking to bed just seems so much effort.