November '09 and the months are flying by, our 3 month plus troop, and us, the knitted boob group!

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New thread, we chat so much!

Glad you had a good day SirBoob. Mine got better too with a nice dinner and some disco dancing.

Tamlin Sounds like everything is in place for your move. Is it a permanent one? I lived in Maryland as a child, the state next door. I have very fond memories.

Longway Long time no see! Are you settled? How are things?

BBL Poor DS2. I hope he feels better tomorrow.

Ursi It sounds like you should be celebrating today anyway. In-law-free. Hooray!

Scarlotti I like flowers because they die and therefore are so frivolous, such a treat. DH has only bought me flowers twice, on the births of our children, as he thinks it's nicer to get a gift you can keep! I suppose I don't buy them for myself either as they seem an expense I can't justify. When I am rich I will always have fresh flowers
But, I get why you're upset. Sorry your day wasn't great.

Had a nice day today, we had a pre-mother's day special meal last night, which was Chinese take-away which we haven't had for aaaaaaaaages but love. saw my mum and mil today and was a good day. am getting really nervous though as am starting back at work on Tuesday and it is like starting a new job as am changing sections and so have no idea what it will be like.

Laugs, we don't know - for a few years at least. My DH sounds very American, but he spent his childhood in Japan and then moved to NZ at seventeen so he's never lived in the US as an adult - I think it will be very different to what he expects.

Our house over there is literally twice as big as our tiny terraced one over here. I am looking forward to the SPACE for the boys (not to mention dishwasher, dryer, air conditioning, ensuite bathroom, vast closets...) DH has turned half the basement into a vast play area, and even drawn goalposts on the wall so DS 1 can play football down there.

BBL, I remember my siblings got pox inside their ears and their nostrils and even on their eyes when they had it. It can be really, really nasty for some children - I hope yours pulls through soon.

Scarlotti, I like flowers too (especially tulips) but I agree with you that a DVD lasts a bit longer. I also love getting books as gifts, but almost never get them.

Oh, and James has been being sick quite a bit. I'm not concerned as he seems perfectly happy, but anyway.... he was just feeding and he was sick on my nipple without even stopping sucking. The sick just spurted out the gaps in the seal! Urgh. I can't imagine how you could possibly want to carry on eating while throwing up.

Laugs Ioan has been more sicky recently too, almost watery after his feed then thicker a little after the feed. I presumed he's just eating too much? {hmm]

Tamlin at the sounds of your new place! I love getting books as a gift although think it's tough for people to know what kind to get.

Feeling less like a brat now

Laugs < boak > Bryn did that earlier too. It was gross!!

Tamlin it sounds lovely, and rather intimating all at the same time

I cannot sleep. Have now been trying for two hours. Have resorted to watching "Undercover Princesses". Yes, I am that cool Am hoping it will bore me to tears sleep.

Happy mothers' day all you wonderful mums! I totally never 'got' Mothers' Day until I was actually a mum and understood the sheer hard work and self-sacrifice involved. Which is probably why all those DH's don't 'get' it either! DWB yours sounds much like mine was with #1. He would just occasionally hit a mental realisation of things and max out on booze at some inocuous excuse at a most inappropriate time. Thankfully, he hasn't done it in a good while in recent years. I hope he's grown out of it (or has just run out of mates/excuses/opportunity/is Under The Thumb).

I managed to avoid cooking a roast for the entire family today, and instead has a very pleasant day consisting of a massive lie-in until 11:00 !! DD woke for feeds from 7-9am, but I was able to doze through them and afterwards. We were at a friend's birthday do last night so DD1 was at granny's. DD2 came with us and did really well, but didn't sleep until we got home at 10:30, so she was knackered and slept through. We had a slow morning working out how to deal with our remaining minuscule garden and humungous trampoline post-extension, then went to MIL's for late lunch and veg out whilst DD1 kept grandad busy outside making ice castles from the remainder of the snow (yes, it's STILL here).

wook I'm one step closer to running - have downloaded some ipod stuff for it. I might still be a week away from motivating myself to be out of bed before 8 though!

pav smelly breath is always a sign of a bug IME. We have Isla's Gastro appointment tomorrow, which I'm sure will be pretty useless, going on previous experience with DD1. However I will get to speak to a dietician which will be most useful. I'm pretty sure Isla reacts to milk, gluten, nuts and egg at the moment. Doesn't leave me with much... I'm never totally sure though. I caved in yesterday and had a white chocolate button, and made gluten and dairy free brownies which contain egg. Isla's guts have been really paining her today so I can't tell whether it's the egg or milk in the button. Being a scientist, you'd think I'd know better than to change 2 variables at once...

I locked myself out of the car yesterday. I thought my baby brain was doing ok, but obviously not. DH, who is very stressed and in desperate need of a quiet afternoon, had to wake up Isla and get a taxi to come and rescue me. Not only that, but I'd totally forgotten about the whole thing today

I am totally with you on the flowers scarlotti, my DH is soo proud of himself for buying a nice bunch of flowers but how hard is it to call into shop, purchase flowers, something that actually required 5 minutes of pre thought or planning would be nice!! ungrateful no just undervalued

in a cruel twist of fate DD2 is sleeping thro and DD1 who is 3 years old is waking at nite...agaggh

weston yes, that's exactly it! Glad it's not just me. I think I might have been less miffed if he'd actually gone to a florist rather than clicked on Next online. What I would really have liked is some thought as to what I would like to get, and then a quick wander into town in his lunch hour to pick it up.
I suspect he's been to busy researching into iPods and Jackets as he recently had his nicked.
Bitter, moi?!
Got greeted with the usual morning exchange today before he left - 'How was your night?' to which I replied not bad, 'Oh, DS1 got up at 3 and 5 last night' to which I then reeled off all the times Ioan had woken. Cue dh saying 'It's not a competition' No, you're bloody right it's not as you get to lie in bed with DS1 every weekend whilst he watches telly and I've been up at least twice a night for the last 4 months.
Aargh. Rant over.

SirBoob I hope you got to sleep. Insomnia is no joke. It's the pits.

Toby now has chicken pox everywhere. They are tiny but on his eyelids, his willy, everywhere. He's not too bad though perhaps because he is used to being itchy with his eczema. DS2 on the other hand is a sad little boy. I put him in bed with me last night but after an hour he said 'actually I want to go back to my bed' and I thought 'well that's fine but I have to go up and down the stairs to you every hour each time you wake up!' In fact he wasn't too bad but usually when he's not well he wakes up a lot at night.

Pav smelly breath is a sign of a bug. DH has the most appalling breath when he's ill! The DSs too. I'm sure I do too but I haven't noticed!

I am housebound this week again. I'm bored already as the sun is shining. DH has taken DS1 to school.

BBL, oh your poor little boys! I really hope the pox are over soon for both of them.
scarlotti, actually the Austrian mothers day is even worse as my husband (and therefore MIL) is Austrian too. So actually, since he lives in the UK, my PILs fly over every mother's day to get the celebration (it's also her birthday around this day, sometimes even on the same day)! And then she EXPECTS my husband saying the same stupid poem every year, plus breakfast, cake and flowers.
I remember my first experience with her way of "celebrating": We lived in Vienna and he asked me to go home with him to make sure that he wouldn't go out for too long the evening before and to be able to get up early to prepare breakfast for her (we were something between 25 and 30 I guess). So, he didn't go out late (always an issue), got up early, picked some flowers as every year, prepared breakfast, said his stupid little poem, had even a selfmade cake for her (about the second in his life) and she said: Well, as you are already up, you could at least go to church with me! I was quite shocked. He had really tried hard to please her by coming home early and she is just really ungrateful! (And she even goes to church rarely!)
And every year it is similar. Last year, he gave her the present and before he could even start to talk she said: And where is my poem?
This is why I do not like mothers day anymore. And I certainly do not want to have to celebrate with her together.

Anyway, I think we just got a very full nappy over her, better go and change it.

hobnob I hope the appointment goes well, especially the chance to chat it through with a dietician. Is it likely she will grow out of this? In the meantime, poor you, caving in and having a chocolate button (just one??) and then suffering the consequences. It sounds like really hard work. I hope you get somewhere today.

SirBoob Did you get to sleep?

Tamlin yes the space over there makes so much difference. We moved (when I was a child) from a tiny terrace in England to this enormous (it felt to me) detached house with all those American things like ice makers, walk-in closets and garbage disposal units! Very exciting. I'm sure the boys will love it.

BBL I hope Toby stays and DS1 cheers up. Have you got a garden he can run around in, when he's feeling better but still under quarantine? The lack of space for that was the hardest bit for me.

Anyone else find it really odd how we call our babies by their names but older children DD or DS?

Has anyone read Black Swan Green? DH bought me it yesterday while in making-up mode. It's from Poundland - again! my love affair with their book section continues - but I've wanted to read it for a while so am quite excited.

Ursi I am intrigued what the poem is!
MIL is also a bit... awful. She rang last monday just to check DH hadn't forgotten mother's day. She said to me 'Oh, DH's brother was saying to me, DH won't forget you will he, mum, but I told him he can hardly forget his own mother!!'

Hello everyone, I am a new mnetter and was just wondering if you mind me joining your thread as my DS was also born in Nov 09? He saved his first real bout of inconsolable crying for Mothers Day - but after a dose of calpol and a trip to the on call doctor all was ok! I will remind him of this for years to come!

I've read Black Swan Green! I love David Mitchell. I've read all his books.

Ursi that poem business is seriously odd!

Hello Cadders!

DS2 is really miserable. He's like a little old man. Better go sort him out. I will let him out in the garden later - he does like pottering in the garden.

Laugs I only call ds 'ds' cos it would get confusing as ds is a 'Toby' too. lol

Wanted a nice peaceful day with dh and Annabelle whilst ds was at play-school, but I have to stay home with ds whilst dh has taken the baby food shopping (I love going food shopping for some reason.) as ds has major poo issues, really runny and seemingly unable to control when he does it. eugh. he managed to poo half in and all the down the back of his pj's last night as I tried to get him on the toilet, so dh and I had to quickly strip him down and shower him off poor little mite. am going to give him cuddles and hope that everyone else doesn't get this too.

welcome cadders!

Is DS your first, Cadders?

I don't know why I call DS1 and DS2 as most of you are facebook friends anyway! It just feels strange to say Luke and Josh because I'm so used to DS1 and DS2. I use DS3 when I'm on other threads for Toby but it seems wrong to say DS3 here! Weird.

Yep DS is my first - Henry. Thanks for all the welcomes!

Laugs a few hours, thanks

Cadders welcome to you and Henry

Bryn is feeding every two hours through the night again - I currently look a bit like this Am shattered. Not a chance of making it to six months purely on milk.

Spoke to my uncle earlier, he's doing really well Still on NBM, but going to try giving him some water later.

Hope you're all well!

cadders welcome!

bbl sorry to hear your little ones are still suffering with pox. Hope you're not stuck indoors for too long.

ursigurke am also intrigued by poem!

tamlin your house over there sounds amazing!

sirboob great news about your uncle.

DWB I'd've gone bloody mental with your DH. I hope he's made up for it!

Morning all. Happy belated mother's day for yesterday! Wasn't a huge event here. I got a card, which I had to remind DH to give me! and had a Chinese takeaway which was kind of my idea! DH doesn't really 'do' cards and stuff but I get spontaneous flowers at other times of the year so it evens out.

I've tried to start BLW with Isaac but he's just not interested yet. He just knocks the food off his high chair. Will try again in a couple of weeks as milk seems to be more that enough at the moment. I also tried to give him a bit of baby rice which he spat out and gave me a 'what is this horrible stuff you're trying to feed me' look!

He's going through a really clingy phase at the moment and just will not sleep in his cot so he's still in our bed BUT.....last night he slept from 11pm-8am with no night feeds!!!!!!

Hi everyone and a belated Happy Mothers Day to you all! Sorry to hear it wasn't brilliant for all of you - especially at your experience Don'tWorryBaby but hope you had a better time later with your own mum. How did DP manage to sort things out? Interested to hear...

I had some brekkie in bed made 'by Rosa' - DH brought the tray up with Rosa facing forward in the sling so it looked like she was carrying it, sweet! We've just got the long-term loan of a car from friends so we headed out in the sunshine to a little village nearby for a sunny walk, which was fun.

Sorry to hear of the ongoing 'pox BBL

Welcome Cadders!

Hope DS is on the mend soon trikken ursi - my MIL's birthday is today so we have the same problem with Mothers Day clash. Luckily this year we celebrated with her on Saturday - went to a pottery-decorating place with her and Rosa and did footprints on mugs thing. It was fun. And no weird poems this side of the Channel... You've got to share it with us now!

Oh and meant to say pleased to hear about yr uncle SirBoob!

Yay for the sleeping stretch lemontop. I've been so tired lately that last night I went to bed at 7.30pm and was asleep by 8! Rosa didn't wake til 1.30 so a lovely long stretch, albeit at the expense of , y'know, the evening....

Welcome cadders! We also have a facebook group on the go if you want to put faces to names and join? Just search for Mumsnet November 2009.

BBL Your poor boys, chicken pox is horrible! But at least after this week you should (hopefully) never experience it in your house again! Every cloud has a silver lining!!

Ursi Is this poem an Austrian tradition?

Not sure what's going on with Ethan's sleep at the moment. Sat night he slept 5 and a half hours before his first night feed. Sunday night he was awake every 90 mins. It's awful when they wake in the middle of your sleep cycle and you're in a deep sleep. Hope it settles down again.

So... I arrived at my mum's around 11am yesterday and my brothers all came to visit over lunchtime so we had a lovely day with all 8 of mum's grandchildren, even got a photo with the 8 of them together. DP got in touch around 4ish, he'd left his mobile at his friend's house so had to go and collect that. He then came down to pick Ethan & I up as I'd had my dad's car the night before. He was very apologetic, said he isn't being the partner or father he wants to be and he didn't enjoy the night out, drank far too much and can't remember much of it. To top it all off, they went to a lapdancing club!! He didn't have a dance though... I'm actually not too bothered about that type of thing but I made the point that I knew plenty of women who would object to their other halfs going to that type of club.

Anyway I made it clear to him that I have higher standards now that I have a child to think of and I will not accept that behaviour at all. Not sure if you guys remember that we got engaged on Nov 1st and had been hoping to get married in October, finances permitting. I told him I didn't feel that we could make plans for the wedding at the moment as he let me down so much yesterday and I need to know that this won't happen again, rather than just hearing his promises. I dread to think how Ethan would have dealt with seeing his daddy in that state if he was old enough to realise what was going on.

In fairness, it is his first night out in around 6 months so it isn't a regular occurrence but it was bad enough to be a deal breaker for me. He also really let me down over Christmas and New Year when I was unwell, I never posted about it on here, but as far as I'm concerned he's seriously let his family down twice since Ethan was born and he's not even four months old. He needs to pull his socks up. Hopefully this will be the turning point for him.

That's a point Trikken, my DD is Belle, so that might get confusing too! Are you back to work full time? Will the DCs be going to nursery?