DEC 08 - Welcome to the house of ill - We're riding a poonami

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This was the only thing I could remember some saying should be the next title!

Hello,
Thanks for the not ironing tips - yes I hang them if I catch them in time but I think quite often the problem is if dh gets to the washing machine first - in it goes to the tumble drier - not that I'm complaining as he will do it and he has to wear it! Anyway, it only gets folded up and thrown in a backpack half the time and cycled to work!
nappy changing - seems we're all in the same boat. Yes I do the interseting item to play with thing but he's usually not that interested anymore and I have done quite a few standing up ones too!
Just did a massive hop at Aldi then back to Tesco on the way home - planning to just top up at Tesco with what I didn't/couldn't get at Aldi, and spent the same again But I did get a massive box of 186 nappies and wipes etc and doesn't that all add up these days MIL usually brings nappies but has been slacking off the last few visits
Gosh I feel way fatter this pregnancy than the first time around... Just bought two maternity tops on Ebay so I feel a bit better. One was brand new and the other used but only 1p! I have to get some summer tops since the last one was mainly winter time so mostly have jumpers and stuff in my very small maternity range!
Veggie, hope you are feeling a bit better.
Daisy I am impressed with the just going outside in this weather - let alone the running!!
Good luck with the ttc Verso - I'm one of the pg one's - 16 weeks at the moment, but Beans is the furthest along, unless there are some others out there keeping mum!
Must get dinner sorted. I never know what to cook on the day we get groceries - so much to choose from!
Hope all is ok with Urbanefam

I didn't "hop" at Aldi - I did a shop

Rub I did at your Aldi hop - I had a vision of you skipping from store to store!!

I think I do too much ironing DH is a bit of an ironing freak. He irons and hangs it immediately and expects me to do the same as thats what his mum did. Life is too short for such nonsense imo.

We iron nothing at all. Occasionally if DH has to wear a shirt he'll iron it. I hate ironing so we don't bother. MIL irons her bedding and curtains.

My Mil irons pants and socks and thinks I am the world's biggest slattern because I just try and dry stuff stretched out so it doesn't need to be ironed. She even irons Grobags and stuff. Nutter.

My own mum thinks I am a slattern for not ironing bedding!

Turnip, grobags?? WTF, obviously a nutter

What is the point in ironing bedding??? It just gets all creased once you've slept in the bed. Well mine does as I wriggle loads when I'm asleep.

Hi there, my mum's a bedding and pant ironer too. I don't own one. There is a chasm of misunderstanding between us.
Oh, and forgot to say hi to Turnip .

Now - I was going to post this on the main boards then got too . I know you ladies will forgive my TMI. I would like to start running again but my pelvic floor is Really Bad. If I run for the bus I feel like I'm on a Tena Lady ad, in the "before" bit. I do the old kegels every day but they have made no difference. Any idea how I can strengthen the area? Lord only knows if I had another, I'd be wearing nappies along with the bairns .

Hi spot - On the old pelvic floor issue, the only way to sort it out is with a special erm exerciser. My friend got a GP referral to a special continence nurse (sorry, terrible term but I suffer from it too - when I skip. Running is OK!). You can order them off the internet but apparently it is much better if you see a specialist. The actual nurse my friend saw was amazing and will see people privately - she lives out in Saffron Walden direction. I can let you have her details if you want. (I plan on going to see her now that I have had my prolape surgery done and I am all sorted in that direction).

(God you can't get me off this thread today...DH has gone out and I am planning on giong to bed and watching PS:I love you. Book was a dreadful pile of sh*te but I fancy something inane...)

Evening ladies I'm feeling loads better today thank you. I actually perked up last night and even ate dinner. DS2 who had been bouncing all day woke at 10pm and emptied his entire stomach contents onto me, nice. He spewed a few more times then finally settled at 1am and slept til 8.30am. He and I felt a lot better this morning though I've been a little seedy during the day.

It was lovely and sunny and a mild 2degrees here so we went for a nice walk into town stopping at a few parks for the boys to play. We bought a few things in town then walked home. Found a brilliant shopping street with lots of international shops including an Aussie/British/American shop so can now source my vegemite. Also an Italian deli hooray, that
does Qualita rosso so all good.

Rubs I really giggled about your massive shop hop, I'm still giggling. Oh and you'll be pleased to know DS2 saw a tiger toy today and roared.

Spot I think Turnip is on the right track for the for the pelvic floor business. Go to your GP and get a referral.

Thanks, folks, but damn that wasn't what I wanted to hear. I will feel like some baggy old lady . Still, I suppose better than being like that character on Little Britain...

Glad you're feeling a bit better, Veg. And hooray for decent coffee and yeast based products

spot it is VERY common and VERY sortable. Honest

spot I have no advice re: pelvic floor other than a trip back to the GP sounds like the best thing.

But I must confess that today I got so excited in a sport shop over a sports bra that held my baps in place. I came home put it ion and was doing star jumps to demonstrate to DH its sheer fantastic-ness. If nothing else it gave him a good laugh after all he has been through!

Phew, it's busy on here at the moment.

Welcome back Turnip and Verso. Spot I have the same problem when trampolining , which luckily I don't do too often. In fact, DS actually said to a friend the other day, "Mummy can't come on the trampoline with us as she will wet herself" .

I never iron and my Mother also thinks I am a bad person as a result, she is a hankie/ pants/ everything ironer. DH irons his own work shirts and would actually rather I didn't go near them as I am apparently a crap ironer. I actually bought one of those huge and fabulous extra steam irons a few weeks ago to see if it would encourage me. It did, and I ironed two loads of washing before it broke on me, which I took as a sign that I am just not meant to iron!

Rubena you are right to be confused by my TTC plans. I did want to have another, and DH has always wanted loads of kids, but recently I have started to worry about the financial and time implications of having 3. We would need a bigger car, to move house, I'd have to stop working again etc. so was trying to convince myself that it was not a good idea. However, I feel like Turnip, in that if I didn't have a third then I would probably regret it for the rest of my life. So we will see. I haven't tested yet and if I am pregnant then it is meant to be, and if not then we will just see what happens.

I wanted to do more personals, but have forgotten most of what I wanted to say. DH is busy re-laying the kitchen floor (it was done 'professionally' a while ago but was a shit job so is having to be redone by DH) and he is swearing loudly so had better go and be irritating sympathetic and offer useful advice

Aw, Spot, sorry to hear about your trouble but I had a friend who used the cones or whatever they are and it really helped. Nil desperandum - remember, ultimately they are muscles and can be trained back again - like toning any sort of muscles, it's a case of time and effort, I bet.

Daisy, it is so lovely to hear you sounding better.

Oh, and glad you are on the mend, Veggie. I am going to send AK a wee package next week because I have spotted something which I think he will like.

Turnip, it really is lovely to have you back and hopefully to see you on Monday - yay!

I've texted Urbane to see if things are all ok but not yet had a reply - but it could be an old number for all I know.

Ironing - what's that? We do it here if it is ESSENTIAL. Things classed as essential are DP's work shirts (which he irons himself usually) and if I happen to wear a shirt in a public place . My mother despairs. Were our Mums the last generation of diligent ironers?

Kayz - ooh, the races, what brilliant fun!

I am just back from London - went for a lunch with a rather loopy pal of DP's from university. He agrees, he only keeps up with him because he feels he should. Meeting up with him is a little torturous as he is deeply paranoid (amongst other things) but it's really that he has no other friends and tends to get sacked even from voluntary work as he is quite hard to get along with, so we have to be kind to him. It's not like me not to fancy a trip to South Ken for lunch but I was feeling particularly tired today, the restaurant was very noisy and I just wished I was reading a book in bed. We went to the Natural History museum after, I haven't been in for yonks. Once we'd been in there for a while, it struck me that taking a Creationist born again Christian with a phobia of creepy crawlies to the NH museum was not one of my more splendid ideas It's very Darwin heavy in there, and there is a big insect section. Poor fellow.

Right, at 8wks pregnant tomorrow or day after, have managed not to put any weight on. I know it's v early days and I was fat before but I am pleased. However, I look at my residual fat and rather depressing figure and I feel all doom laden.

Hope everyone is having super weekends. I have been in my pyjamas for an hour! Feels nice actually.

X-posted with you Katie. Impressed at your resolve in not testing yet!

As for kitchen floors, many sympathies at the disruption. DP is getting up the quarry tiles in the new house at the mo, and it is a horrid job and has taken seven hours so far and he has only managed to get up about a third of them - they are stuck on with molten lava, we think And his poor wrist swelled up the other day with the effort.

hi everyone.
Big waves to turnip and poison and verso. Great to hear from you all again
I'm very sleepy and should be going to bed really but just fancy a bit of time on my own and need to vent a little too. Apologies in advance.
Beans I totally sympathise with you on the dh thing. Mine has been a miserable grump all day and he's driving me mad. He's been so touchy and hasn't smiled once. He's been arguing with Lucy and they've wound each other up so much, and then when I've tried to talk to him about it he's got all defensive then basically said it's my fault for making him feel rubbish about things. Don't get it really but it's really bothering me. Then because he's annoyed me my mind is running away with me, thinking of all the things which irritate me...I don't give P milk in the night anymore yet it's me who still gets up to her twice a night to settle her. Grr. He's moaned today that although he loves having children, he's fed up with the routine of it all - he said we just spend our time with one of us trying to get something constructive done while the other tries to occupy the girls, dropping them and picking them up from school/ nursery, going to work, deciding what to have for tea, making packed lunches - just life really, but he's fed up . Also we're quite skint and he's finding that hard too. We only have a joint account and we usually just spend what we need, responsibly and fairly like others have said, but since going back to work we've had less ( I earn less in this job and P costs loads!)so it's all quite tight and we can't spend anything really other than food and petrol. He works really hard (teacher) and doesn't even enjoy at the mo, then doesn't even get to enjoy the money, so I just think he's generally disheartened and negative - but I'm sick of him being like that! And he's ill so often and I just have to keep on plodding on... SORRY for the massive whinge.
Anyway - on a happy note, we are having Phoebe dedicated in church tomorrow which I'm looking forward to, and some of our family are coming back to ours for lunch afterwards, so it shold be a lovely day - if DH snaps out of his grump. I might have a word with his mum
We had a lovely time up North - went to stay with BIL and his wife (does that make her SIL?) - they got married in July last year and they just told us they are expecting a baby in September! I'm so pleased for them - she has been wanting babies for ages and they are both so happy and so lovely .
Which reminds me - LadyT please don't worry about writing about your pregnancy - I love hearing all the pregga news
spot I have pelvic floor issues too and have thus far avoided the GP. ANd even worse...and I mean severely worse (here comes way Too Much Information...) I pooed myself a bit the last week . It was so odd - I got up, Lucy was on the loo so I was waiting and though "I really need a poo", then did what I though was a little trump, but was in fact more than that . Had a strangely runny tum for the day but didn't feel unwell. Still not quite right now I'm sure all the feeling and control is odd down there. That's why having had a cs and a VBAC, if we had a dc3 (which I'm fairly sure we won't), it would be a cs. The section pain for me was so much easier to handle than all this undercarriage stuff. Will I get banished from the thread now for being so grim?
Well having come on and moaned and revealed disgusting facts about myself I shall now force myself upstairs to lie beside the man beside whom I have no desire to lie!

cross posted with ladyt and katie there. I am losing the plot - I actually welled up when I read that Ladyt has spotted something to send to AK - you know it just struck me that these are real relationships/ friendships that we have here and that we genuinely care for one another. It's funny dh always refers to MN as my 'fake friends', but in fact I think I am more real here than in many of my RL relationships. No one else knows about the poo scenario
Oh and on weight - I now weigh less than pre both children BUT my bum is saggier, my legs are bigger and wobblier and my boobs are floppy and have stretch marks on them. Think I'd rather be a few pounds heavier and have at least one pert area!
OK really must go to bed. Have a buffet to prepare in the morning...

Oh trace love! I remember several threads ago didn't we mention a commune just for us lovely ladies and no men?? Or did I dream such an idyllic place.

My DH is snoring like a stuuffed pig atm, but at least he isn't drinking himself siily like recent times. Anyway I wanted to say have a lovely time at P's dedication tomorrow, such a special day, enjoy xx

thank you daisy. How do you manage to stay so lovely and thoughtful and kind to everyone when you have such a lot on your plate? You are very special and now I'm crying. And I'm not drunk or pregnant!

Ahh trace, you know I really wish I had met some of you ladies in RL. This thread has been a lifeline to me, really it has. I am no different than anyone else on this thread. I just believe that we are all so fortunate that the ladies on here are such genuine people.

Just checked our FB group page and there is someone on there that I don't recognise, initials CS and first name is the same as mine but spelt with a C. Am I just being thick and not able to marry MN name with RL name? Can anyone enlighten me?

Lady the problem with these tiles is that 'the professional' used the wring adhesive so they have never set and strted to slide around all over the place and crack. DH is having to lift each one, wash it off, put down floor leveller and then re set and grout. I should have just got him to do it in the first place but I thought I was being nice by paying for someone to do it so that he wouldn't have to.

Trace DH is having the same sort of crisis. He complained that he was bored of life the other day and wanted to go out and DO something, ie a meal at the pub . He fails to realise that when you announce something like this at 5pmon a Saturday that the pub is likely to be booked out for food and that it is a bit short notice for a babysitter. He also fails to realise that I would also like to DO something, but these things need to be planned a bit in advance when you have two small children. In the end I sent him off to the pub on his own which has shut him up for a bit.

Trace, I do understand why you don't fancy going to the GP but if they could refer you to some sort of understanding and expert continence nurse, it might help as there could be straightforward exercises or something you could do. It may not be as invasive as you probably suspect.

As for your DH, well, my DP has been a paragon recently but I do think that living together and balancing work and kids and money...it is just really hard. And not having money left over for treats affects some people more than others, I think. Furthermore, I have been forced to conclude that relationships inevitably ebb and flow. It wasn't like that with my DH but we had no kids, plenty of money, took a ridiculous amount of holidays and just pleased ourselves in all things, so of course it was easy! (Not that he wasn't fabulous, but you know what I mean). What I am trying to say is - I know it's annoying but it will pass. So pay him little attention until it does! - and I hope you have a lovely day tomorrow.

Trace and Daisy, don't set me off - it takes nothing at all to set the tears rolling at the moment

Fake friends? Pah! DP used to take that view but as the months have gone by he knows who everyone is and I know he doesn't think that stuff anymore And this thread has kept me going through some challenging times as well. And made me laugh of course. In fact, if it wasn't for this thread I don't think I would have managed the move from London to the depths of nowhere - I'd have REALLY struggled without you all for company.

Katie, is it ModernLove? Her first name definitely begins with a C. She hasn't posted on here for quite a while.

Trace if you welled up imagine my reaction. Lady that is do sweet I shed little tear. It's so true Trace, you ladies mean so much to me I'd don't know what I'd do without you.

I hope your DH lightens up for the dedication Trace. I guess I can see where he's coming from but I can't help thinking that would make you feel quite sad. What does he want you to do with that information, try to make his life more exciting? He has 2 beautiful daughters! And you for a wife!

Sorry about the poo poo thing, gosh you did suffer badly for P, my mum gets a bit of that but I think it's an irritable bowel thing with her. She gets loose poo when she is particularly stressed. Also it's ok to say you would rather a CS on here just don't start a thread on it anywhere else it'll be Bath-gate & overhang-gate all over again.

Spot I was just thinking about your pelvic floor, when you do your exercises do you squeeze and hold for a count of 10 (or as close to). And do you do the lift technique one where you kind of pull up on your pelvic floor halfway then fully, then release halfway, then fully, as if your pelvic floor is a lift? (tara lee's analogy not mine)