DEC 08 - Welcome to the house of ill - We're riding a poonami

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This was the only thing I could remember some saying should be the next title!

Hmm, that didn't really work did it? That's what happens when you write in Word so you can pretend you're working on a Really Important Strategy about Dead Important Stuff then copy & paste.

Blimmen heck that's expensive!! Where are you Beans? Even when I was in SW London they weren't that much

DD's nursery costs £80 a day - and that is SW London..

Glad I was missed then.. Not!! (stomps off in huff)

DD's nursery costs £80 a day - and that is SW London..

Glad I was missed then.. Not!! (stomps off in huff)

SW London too - it has gone up a lot. £80 are the best ones - which are amazing, but tend to have waiting lists.

KIWI - so sorry - I was too wrapped up in myself to acknowledge and greet you joyously!! HELLO! Welcome back!! [hug icon]!

xx

Wow theyhave gone up a lot since I was looking at them - or I was just looking at utter crap ones!
Hello Poison - x posted !! Nice to "see" you on here!!
I really want another meetup too so I can try and make it next time

Kiwi!!!! You were missed by me.... I didn't say it but I often wonder where people are and you always come to mind, mind you I do a lot of lurking on FB I must admit

DS is very cute atm. he is finding it hilarious to put his muslin over his head then run around banging into things then kills himself laughing!

Just a super quickie as I ought to be working (groan)

• Kiwi, of COURSE you were missed! Your disappearance had the air of a Nancy Drew mystery so I am glad you are ok if slightly frazzled.

Beans - Beryl and Mr Beryl are twats. I'd have blown a gasket long ago. No one wants their kid to be ill but they need to get a little perspective and stop acting like your DD has the bubonic plague every two seconds. I have encountered one such neurotic parent in my life and it is not an experience I wish to repeat. I think you and your DH need to have a serious talk with them - you don't NEED this stress.

PoisonD, hurrah! Thanks for not dobbing me in to DV as I haven't told anyone I'm up the duff (except for DP, the necessary medical entourage and you goodly girls on here) - not least because he is a dreadful gossip and very very nosey. A nice man, though, and going through a bad time at the mo. I am not telling another sausage until I've got the 12 week scan out of the way - I am nervous because of the shenanigans with the CVS last time. I am 10 weeks on Monday so not long to wait. So sorry about your Dad...I do hope things improve. Footballers' Wives? Very obvious fake tan, aforementioned high heels, a plunge neckline and a blingy handbag or imitation thereof (gold chain hanging off it, that sort of thing).

Oh nuts, it's after 5 - I need to press on.

The good nurseries are c£65 in Oxfordshire.

Oh, and buggering agent hasn't got back to me.

It's bad bloody karma for all those times I kept people dangling.

The trouble is, you can't really chase a laid back person without looking like a complete hysteric.

Oh, and before everyone starts chipping in with their mouthwatering plans for supper, I am having Quorn stir fry with no rice. Maybe some broccoli if I can face it (have gone off greens a bit, not a good thing for a pregnant bird to go off).

Hello Kiwi and Poison. I have missed you both and I can prove it. I think I asked where you both were only a few days ago.

Kiwi - are you a super model? Is that why you hope to have more time when fashion week is over? I am uber impressed.

Poison - You DD sounds soooo cute. My DD2 is also obsessed by knickers but its her sister's pairs she hankers after. She wears then as hats.

Beans - Is your DD happy with the nanny? And are there just a couple more months 'til your maternity leave? If so I would develop a good line in lying to Beryl and soldier on. It would take your DD a while to settle into nursery if she has never done group childcare before, and you would have to go in with her for the first few days, so it would not be a quick fix.

Sybs - my gosh, now I understand what a Siberian hamster is I am terrified on your behalf. I really hate rats. You brave lady coping with that.

OK. Big news. DD2 just did her first steps . Given she can't stand unaided for more than 3 seconds it was quite a surprise. The nanny was showing me how she can stand for a few seconds and so she stood her up and let go of her and DD just legged it across the room to me! It was about 5 steps and she was very lucky I was there to catch her at the other end, but it was so very sweet and she was over joyed with herself.

Sorry Poison, I also meant to say I was sorry to hear about your Dad and hope he is OK.

X-posted LadyT. I am so sorry your agent is stressing you out. Are there any innocent questions you could call to clarify without looking like you are pushing on the big info?
Oh, and I also went off green leafy veg in both my pregnancies. In fact when I was in the first trimester with DD1 I would gag at just hearing the word spinach.

Is this face new??? . I have just noticed in and am very pleased to see it if it leads to a reduction in . riles me sometimes, I am not sure why. God, I have too much time on my hand today!

LadyT - that response has made me laugh - brilliant! They are twats - thank you for putting things in perspective for me!!! And you're right - they really do need to chill out some. I have better things to worry about and seem to be paying a premium for absolutely no peace of mind!

Anyhoo! 10 weeks, that's gone so fast!!!!!

xx

Aubi, that is great about your DD2. Is there anything cuter than when they are pleased with themselves?

I can't really call the agent now, I just have to be patient. But I am rather annoyed with him.

Right, off to the house to see how Phase 1 of the Big Plumbing Imbroglio has gone done.

Poison sorry about your dad as well - hope the fam is doing ok considering....

BabyAuby well done!

I'm very much liking the green veg although I have always been a very big green vegetable fan - it's the fruit that i've stepped up the intake of - I would never eat much of it at all before but both pregnancies i've craved it. Especially orange juice which made me gain loads of weight last time but this time i'm resisting and opting for an apple when i'm wanting some it's kind of working!

I'm having stirfry chicken with loads of veg and not any rice hopefully too

Beans, what's on the menu for you? Right off to get it going now that I have finished holding ds down in the bath bathing ds

lady hope the initial plumbing is ok - fingers crossed

Come back love, of course you were missed. What do you do? Coming back after fashion week is sounding glam.

Beans B&B are complete knobheads to put it in northern terms Honestly...have you seen that film about a boy living in a plastic bubble(it was a comedy) except I bet B&B will be seriously contemplating something similar.

Hello PD, yes I will be brunette again tomorrow when I have my colour done, more a mousy brown/blonde at the moment.

Hooray for baby aubi, so sweet when they are pleased with themselves. DS gets like that when he finds his willy during nappy off time.......

I am seriously at the cost of nurseries in and around London. The one DD used to go to was £42 a day, and that was seen as expensive compared to others. Ahh the sheer poverty of the north

I am having chinese for dinner. In fact I declared to DH that we were having chinese as Beans talk of it left me hungry last night. DH is now

Loads more I wanted to say but I can't remember now. Need to get the DC's to bed. I've had a rotten week at work and am now in need of some cheerfulness therapy. Apologies to all the pg ladies.

Evening ladies. Hope your all well you've been busy today in see.

Kiwi we did miss you and your name was mentioned but mostly I importantly are you a supermodel??? I seem to remember you being a bit too pretty to be a supermodel, they're a bit plain looking mostly.

Syb I seriously thought you had Syberian hamsters! I saw an episode of animal rescue once and they had found a load of SH's in a dumpster (it was animal rescue Houston) so I thought it must be quite normal. But rats, poor you! If you need to be out of the house you could always come to the museum with us tomorrow.

Hooray for fast moving minieggplants!!!!

JJ we have a similarly adventurous little one, but we have the advantage of hindsite...and previously purchased play equipment. When DS1 hit this stage just after he started walking...no crawling (as I think your DD has been like) we bought a climbing cube with a slide on eBay. It's made out of that hollow plastic stuff that fits together into a climbing cube which is pretty much a meter squared, well cubed actually. It has a little slide and DS2 just climbs all over it and up & down the slide. It's not too big so fits in our living room. I'll see if I can find a link to a picture of one but you cab get little slides or frame things for them to climb on. You can get wooden stuff too. DS2 is often up the chairs and onto the table in seconds so I divert him to the cube which he climbs all over with delight. It's got enough different bits to climb into and over to make it stay interesting. DS1 still loves it, though he's way too big for it.

Lovely to hear from you PD though a bit scary about your dad, keep us posted. Paris must be done. Anyone else interested, how about early June? Before school holidays definitely.

The train ride was great today, there was a 2 hour wait in Brussels for our eurostar so the boys had a run around in the sun. DS1 kept screaming out 'brussel sprouts!' as he thought the name was funny. There were also lots of pictures of the pissing boy which he of course found highly amusing. He is having a great tine with his friend here in London. We are staying with friends whose DS1 is 9 months (actually almost exactly to the day) older than DS1 and they've known each other forever so they are having a great laugh together.

I cannot remember anything anyone else said. What a terrible memory I have.

Oh Beans those people really need to calm down. In all possibility your DD may have contageous bugs but, it's the bubonic plague for goodness sake, if she went to see friends who had the sniffles would refuse to stay, does she freak out if someone sneezes on the bus? Bloody hell bugs exists we catch them, we build up antibodies we get stronger. They are serious pains in the bum and that email is just cowardly why couldn't she just call you.

Right boy asleep better get the other one sorted.

Have a lovely lovely London trip, Veggie.

Yes, Syb, I hope the pesky rodents have buzzed off. Horrendous! I hope you are suitably medicated with cheerfulness.

Thanks for wishing me luck on the plumbing, Rubes, I certainly needed it. Let's just say the overall effect is not cosmetic...He insisted on doing this bit first before quoting for the rest of the work in case we were horrified. Well, I am horrified that I have a giant soil pipe coming through my kitchen ceiling and in the downstairs shower room, all requiring very canny boxing in. DP said he would do it but I have put my foot down - I want a pro or it's going to look hideous. However, the alternatives were a soil pipe going through part of my bedroom wall and through 18 inches of 200 year old wall (not really good for the structure) - unless of course we wanted to keep the electric loo (we didn't). So there's that and DP is in an absolute frenzy as he has lost a brief, which means the two of us will spend the evening turning the place upside down as I am too soft to let him sort it out himself, even though he should be more organised. I know I am all moans at the moment but it has been a very annoying day. Aaaaaargh! Hope you are all having better evenings!

Good luck at Fatty Club, Turnip!

Hello girls

I was fed soup and toast by my dear friend and felt much more chipper. The girl we had round to tea came with her mum (a farmer's daughter) who nobly stayed and ept me sane. Just about to brave the kitchen so I can wash up before Masterchef. Thanks sfor all the kind words.

Beans - B and C will get their come uppance when B starts school or nursery. Children need an amount of germs to buid a good immune system. I too would lie and say you have been to the Dr' and he said it was nothing. IME you look at the child not just the symptoms and if they vomit but are otherwise fine, then I would carry on as per. When they are really ill they just go floppy and want ot be held the whole time, which Whizz clearly isn't, so I'd deal robustly with the parents. I'd agree about not starting the hassle of nursery now. You presumably won't need any childcare when on ML with no 2 so don't upset the apple cart for a few months.

Nursery grant i the term after you are 3. So Jan 2012 for (most of) our babies. My top tip for nurseries is to check out your local children's centre. It' where my 2 go and is LOVELY, esp as it's not run for profit, so i only £650 for 2 kids on 2 days. My old one was £500 per child per month for 2 days so quite a saving.

Aubs, well done to DD2 on the walking. They get so pleased with themselves, don't they?

Good luck tonight, Turnip - can I tempt you over to the fatties thread? I am all alone there.

LadyT, bad luck on the poo stack. Anything must surely be better than a macerator, as they always go wrong. Hope the brief turns up. Your dinner sounds super healthy though. I am very impressed.

Good to see you Kiwi, Jam and Poison.. And hello to everyone else. I am off to brave the rat, wash up and watch john and Gregg. I have become a bit neurotic about hand washing and the rat, so much so that my hands are bleeding and raw. Feel like Lady Macbeth, though without the murderous intent. Tis only a matter of time .

Meant to add DS1's nursery in London was around £900 a month for 3 days/week. I think it came out at about £65 a day. We couldn't believe when we moved to Derby and paid £13.30 for a half day or £26 for a full day! They were both Montessori but the Derby one was much bigger and had a lovely garden.

Good evening everyone! I just can't keep up on this thread these days....so much nattering.

Hello Kiwi, Jam (I was wondering why you had not been on to tell us about your wedding, how RUDE ), and Poison. poison don't take this the wrong way, but I think you suit your nickname, hahahahhaha, oh god I shouldn't have said that should I?
Welcome back to turnip as well!! And waves to pixsix from way back.

Nurseries, ours is 4.50 an hr, so 45 quid from 8 til 6. They charge by the hour, which is good. Oh beans I have to say that while B&B & co sound absolutely bonkers and paranoid (I love their e-mail, so polite but tinged with an edge of slight crazed worrying!) one thing to make you feel better is that round here at least nurseries have a blanket rule that if a baby vomits, they can't go to nursery for 48hrs. A total pain in the bottom if they are basically like Whizz is, and I am sure that lots of parents don't obey it if the kid is sick at home, but obviously if they are at nursery you are screwed! So if they are the same near you would be taking time off anyway.

LadyT sorry you are having a crap day! Like aubs said anything is better than a poo muncher. We nearly bought a flat with a poo muncher once, glad we didn't. Tee hee, that has just reminded me that one of my brothers nicknames for me when we were young used to be "poo muncher". So charming.

sybs I didn't get the siberian hamster thingy either!! I don't know if you remember but we had a rat in our house last year, it was massive and so scary so I hope you get it sorted soon!

Well I am going to watch John and Gregg the Egg now too, I have a supermarket bought quiche for dinner though, nothing masterchef worthy!

jj the only thing I could think of is to lie the chair down on the floor! Not sure that is a long term strategy though....she is a cheeky little madam isn't she, doesn't surprise me that she is a little mountaineer these days!

Right had better go or it will be burnt supermarket quiche.

Haha yes I am a supermodel and an international woman of mystery, in my spare time I like to solve crimes which have baffled the finest police brains in Europe. While wearing Prada. It can get terribly awkward when one of the police chappies is short and I have to talk down from my vast supermodel height you know. Soooo unchic.

(or, I write about fashion. Believe whichever version you wish...)

Your little ones sound so adorable at the mo. DD still feels very much a baby not a toddler - I think it's the not-yet-walking thing. Somehow walking makes them seem that one stage further on. She's not really said any words yet either. Well, actually she's constantly saying words, just not in any language I am familiar with... She's loving nursery though. Today she made a painting for DH whose birthday it is today. Clearly she is destined to be a small, immobile untalkative artistic genius...

Well, Masterchef is on because DP is addicted but that pair of chuckleheads make me want to put my foot through the telly. We haven't found the brief yet but he can answer the question for the client by making a couple of calls tomorrow morn, so it takes the immediate pressure off (still have to find it soon though!)

Summer - saniflo loo - I didn't want one because I HAVE ONE IN LONDON. Yes. And when I moved back in there after DH's place was sold (I'd been renting my own little flat out), it broke almost immediately and a very cheerful and brave Australian plumber had to replace the macerator and get rid of seemingly endless buckets of pureed poo belonging to my previous tenant. We were both wretching, he was such a hero and it took all day. Unfortunately it's all I can have in that flat as it is on the top floor of a Victorian terrace and there's a prob with gravity or something. When I bought the flat I'd never heard of a macerator, thought loos were loos.

Syb, I do think you have been a trouper about the Rolands. I am very careful about what I eat generally but it doesn't seem to stop me from being a fatso. Mind you, I have had to come off the Metformin whilst pregnant so my insulin resistance will be marauding. However, despite all that I am allowing myself a little spot of cheerfulness to take the edge off as I feel rather stressed. I have been very good up to now. I daresay a little drop won't hurt me.

Ugh, Saniflo's! I got a rather bad reputation when still the relative new girl at big multi national pr agency in London due to a Saniflo. I was managing my DS and DBIL's property at the time which was a big old victorian terraced house which also had a problem with gravity Lady. Long story, but I was heard by every single person on every single one of the five floors to shout very loudly and angrily 'There is SHIT coming up the fucking bath plughole' to a very unhelpful plumber. People tended not to mess with me after that .

Wave to Kiwi, of course you were missed.

Hi all!! Do I know kiwi - or are you a lovey gal from after I disappeared of the thread. Either way "hi"!!

Aubs so cute about DD2 - maybe L will do something similar.

PD - hi pet. Sorry about your Dad - but smiles for your gorgous DD. Glad she is bringing lots of joy.

Summer I remember your rat. Hope Sybs gets rid of hers soon. Shivers.

Fattie Club was er... interesting. Let's just say another side of Crouch End was revealed to me...(it really was like Marjorie Dawes...dust, dust anyone). However I shouldn't be snobby. Another lady who started today told me she was a nanny (but she was well-unhinged) and that she was 18 stone (Having previously been 23, gone down to 10 and regained 8) and announced to the group that she wanted to lose weight so her boyfriend would propose. Bless. Worth going along each week to see how that story works out. But Sybs I should join you on Fatty Thread - although Slimming World is so choc full of annoying slogans (extrafree red day green day etc etc) that you need a degree in nurition to work it out (But my Sis swears by it...)