January 2009- Help! A toddler ate my baby!

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I told you it was a lame title.....

I'm completely exhausted after watching it!

Am also reminded I need to book neonatal resus update, and obstetric emergencies.

Moose - I'm really really glad the teachers have done good work in regards to your little man. I hope he feels better knowing people are in fighting his corner with him.

Dog - yay for scan!

Oh I got all upset when the baby didn't breathe straight away. I couldn't do your job in a milliion years Tree, I think you are amazing.

Ds told me before bed tonight, that he understands now that if he tells a grown up they will try and help him sort his problems out. Unfortunately he also told me that our horrible next door neighbour (who is also a dinner lady at the school) punished him after he accidentally bumped into a girl in the playground when playing a spinning game and she told on him. He said he was very sorry and that it had been an accident, but she told him to go and stand in the corner of the playground on his own as a punishment. So he used the phrase we have been practising for him to use instead of getting upset and cross and shouting back, which is "I am very sorry that I have upset X, but I don't really understand ....." in this case "but it was an accident and I've said sorry, so I don't really understand why I have to stand in the corner". Perfectly polite and reasonable imho. Her response? "Don't give me that, you know what you've done, now get in the corner!"

Such a shame as his teacher says she is really pleased with the way he's been handling himself since he came back and he has been extra polite and willing to compromise, and forgive even people like the year 5 bullies.

I told him that I agreed that he shouldn't have been punished for an accident, especially if he'd already apologised, but that even grown-ups make mistakes sometimes and the dinner lady must have thought she was doing the right thing so we have to let her off. (I wanted to tell him that she is a stupid grown-up bully that needs bringing down a peg-or-two from her dinner-lady power-trip, but obviously I didn't.)

She's the same woman that made ds clean his lunch off the floor when another little girl in his class threw it there and frequently tells both of my boys they can't put their rubbish in the bin because its against school rules, but lets all the other kids do it. Makes me so mad, what sort of woman is she. If she has a problem with us she can deal with us, not take it out of little children fgs. You'd think she'd be more careful actually, as the only way they can access their drive is by driving across ours, so if we erect a fence on our driveway they are bed!

And breathe.

Ahem, sorry rant over!

Anyway, the important thing is that his teachers are happy with him and he has gone to bed a relaxed, smiling happy bunny.

Wow, busy thread today!

Lenni, poor you with all the vom! Hope tomorrow goes well, am sure your brain will return to you just when you really need it. Ds and dd so cute with the kissing! Think it helps that you have boy and girl, same for pat. I will have another boy and they will be feral. Re skiing, my BIL is same with bathroom issues but you could get ensuite. It would have to be fully catered chalet to avoid any housekeeping stress but it would be so much fun! Who is up for camping first? Forest of Dean? Please note I will be in camper van.

Hkz, green baby sale my very next stop, thanks .... 120, I am going to make the squash and order your poster as soon as I am back from London next week. All your food sounds yummy. Talking of which, get you dog and your domestic goddessism! Dinner sounds great.

Pat, glad chat went well with dp. At one point last night I became certain that I had lost my ring at slimbridge in the ball pit and was making plans to return and empty it! 120, metal detector was our next stop, dh said afterwards he was a little bit disappointed that he didn't get to have an excuse for a geeky day spent using one!

Tree, I just watched one born again with incredulity at that bloke during the vbac. Absolutely unbelievable. Tbh, most of the blokes in that show so far have not been great! Makes you realise why it's only in our time and culture that men are allowed anywhere near the business ... Sorry you are so tired. It must be so draining. Hope you are getting the chance to rest a bit. The hardest thing I found about coming home from long shifts was instantly having to switch into mummy mode. Do you drive? I liked to think of my drive home as a sort of special zone, would get nice drink, play nice music and try to wind down.

Mm, glad bullies taken care of this time. Poor ds, I was the same with sport so I feel his pain.

Oh Moose -can you talk to school and tell them she neds some...er....training? Which I believe to be universal code for she needs to f**k off.

Such good news about the teachers though.

Hi MissJ - I was a bit hyper after Monday, but today I was so beyond tired. I felt like I was ill. Tonight I am stressed and restless. I needs to get a grip!

It's 6 mins drive so not a winddown, but highly handy!

Had to post halfway as am on phone in bed and the screen wouldn't scroll down...

Anyway my finger is hurting now from all the typing so will just say hi to everyone I have missed. What a day! Feel exhausted after no sleep and all the worry. Couldn't stop crying during one born. Have af too, so it's all a bit intense! Off to london tomorrow and have lots of lovely social plans but not packed at all and have to leave by 11 so better sleep now..... Night everyone.

Ah now I was sporty, so he doesn't get it from me. I did, long-jump, netball, track, swimming/diving, ice-skating and horse-riding. I also did gymnastics in primary school and was pretty darn good until I got injured and my Mum heard it was going to stunt my development and leave me deformed so stopped me going back.

I do get where he's coming from though as if I tried to do sports now I'd feel exactly the same with balls flying at me at god knows what speed per hour. I can't understand what I saw in all that sport now, it really leaves me cold these days. Never did get football or rugby really though, even back then.

My heart goes out to him having to do PE and games several times a week (the school has some sort of healthy school award which basically means they do a lot of sport). Fortunately football was snowed off today so he was a happy bunny.

X posted with you tree. You do sound stressed and knackered. Know what you mean about the hyper feeling. It's so tough. 6 mins is not much turnaround time. It will get better though as you all get used to the new routines. Sending you hugs.

I'd love to Tree, but I have to pick my battles at the moment. I don't want them to start pegging me as an over-anxious precious Mummy type that complains at the slightest thing or they'll stop taking me seriously.

I think I have convinced ds not to worry about her too much now. So hopefully he won't take what she says to heart in future.

Even better, I'd seriously love to tell her personally that she needs .. er to eff off some training, but I fear this would make both neighbourly and dinner lady/pupil relations even worse.

Still a girl can dream.

You're quite right Moose. Picking battles is so wise. I am stil in the PFB loop and my gaurd flicks up so quickly with dd1 at school. Hopefully i'll calm down over the years

Dreaming good though!

Cheers MissJ. x

What do you usually find helps you to wind down Tree? Maybe you need to build a new routine around it. Reading? Candles? Chocolate? Music? Nice long soak in the bath? All of the above?

I think you're a bit like me, in that you resist a regular bedtime routine and suffer the consequences. Everything I read, hear and know tells me I should go to bed and get up at the same time every day and should have a consistent wind down bedtime routine. I don't know what it is, but I just seem to fight it. (I've always hated being told what to do - even if its good for me and I should know better.)

You do need to nurture yourself through this period of adjustment though.

Ds1 is still my pfb though Tree, so I am just the same with him. Plus every experience with him is a parenting first for me as he is the oldest.

I'm afraid in my experience it doesn't calm down, but then again we have these protective reactions for good reason, our dc's are precious and its our job to love and protect them, so woe betide anyone that does anything to hurt or upset them.

I am a Mummy hear me roar, lol!

Hkz, had 50 quids worth of gb goodies loaded up and ready to go but now having wobble about sizing. I was going for 18 - 24 as it's summer stuff and he is already that size baby gap but gb comes up large. What have you gone for? Hope that discount code lasts till tomorrow! Got dungarees, rainbow tees, shorts and pyjamas. All heavenly.

wow busy bess

will try and reply to everyone

miss j - oh shopping and hkz

dog - glad u saw midwife

mm - dinner lady soiunds a pain

hi to everyone else

didnt have a good morning

some dich head excuse the language thought that it woul;d be a great idea to puncture 55 cars tyres along our road and others. luckily we had no punctures on dhs car and only one on other car. some people ad 2 punctures others all 4!!!#
had to phone up dd1s school got her in @ 9:10am only just made music with mummy which was 9:30am so angry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hurrah!! I don't have to stop being a pfb lioness I'm not sure how I'll be with dd2. She is more robust already, she is brave and stuborn and strong willed. DD1 has always been the opposite, which I think makes starting school quite tricky. Sometimes being louder, stronger and determined can make for a simple life!

So for example, the break time I was there [just leaving at the bell] dd missed break really, as she was helping a boy do his zip. Bless her and him, as he felt poorly. She hardly got out, had no time for a snack and no time for a drink. And no one noticed because they are both quiet, solid little people who get on and say nothing. some trumpet blowing or noise making might have got them sorted sooner with less stress. They both looked so worried about getting this coat sorted out. Bless.

I'd roar but I'm very mucusy .

I guess you are right, still your and my baby and it never goes away. But I hope my roar gets more refined as yours has, as 2 terms in and I have a list of things I want to change about our school. I am also being completely precious about the year one toilets dd will be using next year. From special infant loos to adult with a huge door in one summer holiday Dinner ladies in general seem to either plauge, or hand out stickers. There seems no middle ground!

I'm crap at going to bed. If I go to bed then I have to admit I have to get up in the morning. And that I HATE. I never feel good in the morning. Ever. So staying up puts of the inevitable!

I need a therapist!

Thats complete pap Tink! Poor you! What a rubbish start to the day, glad you made it everywhere you had to be.

I have kept dd1 off school again. She had ear ache this am. She is now pucker and watching telly so feeling a bit like . Ah well, I don't suppose they did calculus today, and we did reading for first time in a fortnight! She went straight through and only got her d and b mixed up so hey ho.

Less wiped out today but everytime I move my head mucus explodes out of it. Temp is set at 37.4, I seemto be getting used to a mild shiver. So I'll feel a million dollars when it goes down to normal!

Resisting GB, which isn't too hard as last seasons stuff wasn't ideal for my girls colouring. Thank God, or I'd be broke!

Mum has been a diamond too, bringing funky clothes fromH&M and Gap, neither of which I can access.

Cor look at the size of that post!!

Ahhh....have just about caught up...al I can remeber is, Lenni poor you and the house of vomit, hope all is better today.
MissJ I am going for 18-24....I went for stripey board and skater style baggies, striped hoody, rainbow t-shirts for J and L....L had the dungarees in green and brown last year (they will fit ds thias year!) Have gone for 18-24...ads the trousers are 3/4 length and DS has a big head so need big t shirt.

Hope you feel better too Tree...right had better do some work. (My sister has given me a small hangover!)

Tink, grr a the phantom tyre puncturer. There was a spate of that in Warwickshire last year, with some streets being hit repeatedly. What on earth goes on in these peoples' heads?

Yay, Tree a Moose sized post!

Dd's break time scenario sounds similar to ds2. He is forever missing his snack and drink for one reason or another and they never notice. He's also the slowest eater, so frequently doesn't get to finish his lunch or drink his lunch-time drink before the Juniors come into the dining hall and he has to leave. Not good, as this results in him finding it hard to concentrate in the afternoon and grumpy when he gets home due to dehydration and low blood sugar. He is still mixing his b's and d's up and he will be 6 in April. He also seems to be writing an increasing number of his letters backwards, which is odd, because he was doing them all correctly up until a few weeks ago.

Hope you feel better soon. Have you tried sinutab for the mucus explosion? I used to swear by it when I wasn't bf. In fact I have just dispensed some to my Mum who is in a similar situation, snot wise, to you this morning and has an interview at 2.00 pm.

Dd has just fallen asleep so am off for a bath while I have the chance. Got af this morning as well as having a temperature, really painful sort throat (have lost my voice in fact) and nasty earache in both ears, so obviously that was what all the weird stinging skin stuff and joint pain was about - a mix of hormones and infections. Lovely.

Right, am off to wallow.

just read up and can't remember a thing.

moosey I've got that too. the ear temp headache joint stuff. fortunately no stinging skin, that sounded awful. head full of cotton wool. my mum is here and helping with the dc. fab. might have a bath too.. what a great idea!

Harrumph! Bath cut short by screaming baby triggering howling dog. Typical!

Oh well, at least I'm clean.

Did make a decision during the short time I was in there though. Have decided to start walking and eating healthily again like I did last year and the year before. I always start in the spring, last until the summer but then lose the plot when we go on holiday and never get back to it before the next spring.

Looked back at the thread from this time last year the other night (that was weird, it was this time last year that dd stopped breathing and was rushed to hospital) and apparently I started walking during the first week of March and waht with the 1st being a Monday this year, I thought that would be a good day to start.

I have to do something, I am slowly regaining the weight I've lost, have a terrible sugar addiction - again and am so unhealthy that I'm constantly catching bugs. Why is it that I make sure the dc's eat healthily but fail to do so myself?

I'm going to cut right back on sugar and processed food (including the dreaded white bread, which I seem to have developed a penchant for just recently) and slowly start building up my walking again. I'm also going to 'try' and go to bed earlier, get up the same time every day and get into a better bedtime routine.

It will probably just be a walk through the park and back round the block on Monday and will try to do a bit further every day.

So, anyone else up for kick-starting themselves into a healthier spring?

Sorry, 120 didn't read your post. Don't know how I missed it.

I am finding the only thing that helps is taking paracetamol and ibuprofen together. I think the stinging thing was hormonal and down to the impending arrival of af. Am really hoping its not strep throat as that always gets out of hand with me and I end up on ab's.

Hope you manage to have a nice long bath and feel better soon.

Must have a look in the Green Baby site tonight. I still need to buy a 1st birthday present for my niece (20 Feb) but I'd also quite like to get a couple of things for our little monsters.

120, I'll make a proper list later but it includes some hardbacks I've replaced with paperback copies. I'm not that keen on hardbacks but sometimes I think I can't wait for paperbacks (and then I don't read them until ages later). Sarah Waters, The Night Watch is one, and Exit Music by Ian Rankin. And I haven't done it recently but I used to get the Booker shortlist books from the Book People and they were mostly still hb.

well i didnt quite make it everywhere was just setting off for the drs when i got 2 new punctures so bugger must have put little holes in those tyres
good job i wasnt far from home.
a local company has been great have got 3 new tyres and not too expensive!!!!!!

lovely bath, then mother made me get dressed to help her get the pram out of the car. was all drowsy and ready for sleep, but now am grumpy again. grr. thanks for the drug cocktail moose.. am I allowed ibuprofen when BF? think it's just the paracetamol for me.

elkie, we can talk books next sat.

tink, well done for sorting it. how annoying!

got the wholesale price list for GB. teehee.

right. am going to try and sleep now. am re-reading why love matters at the mo. so interesting, but sadly still quite dense and keep having to read the same paragraph again.

I'm still bf too 120. There seems to be a lot of conflicting advice on the net, but I was told by doctors to take ibuprofen both when I had sinusitis and when my gallstones flared up. Different docs, both knew I was bf, so I have assumed it was ok.