May 09 - The Sleepless Babies Club, All Dubious Fashions Welcome

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Ladies.

Evening all,

OK day here. I accidentially went to jumping beans today. "How can that be accidental?" I can hear you wondering. Well, I went to take my recycling out to the village hall and the jumping beans van was parked in front of said hall. I popped in for info and before I knew it we were joining in for a free session C seemed to quite like it in an understated sort of way.

cherry Hope J gets better soon. Sending over some healing vibes

emmab about the swimming. It did make me smile. I think the whole point of those lessons is to get the los accostumed. Give it another few lessons. If she's still scared then give it a break and try again later.

Headless "A thousand splendid suns" is a fantastic book. I read it right after reading the kite runner. It's just really good at describing what it would have been like as a woman under the Taliban. My latest favourite book I've read was 'the white tiger' by I can't remember who... an indian author anyway. It's a light book really, but the style it's written in is brilliant. You can just hear the narator's voice in your head talking with a thick indian accent. Brilliant. DH is trying to read it now. He's not that good at sticking with books. I tend to neglect everyone and everything if I have got a good book to read until it's finished, while he doesn't.

running Yay re the new glasses. It's always great to get new ones. I had a BOGOF offer on mine too, 4 years ago now. I first wore the one pair until they were worn out and now I'm on the 2nd pair . Soon I'll have to go back I think.

dandy poo dodger! How sweet about DS saying dada though. It's sweet when babies snuggle into you isn't it or DH's or anyone...

Evening ladies.

I am so excited i had to come and tell you ladies. My DBIL (DH's youngest bro) and DSIL are expecting their first baby . They are the last of the siblings on either side to have a baby and we have been waiting for this . They don't actually have a scan til next week, but my DSIL had told her mum, who then told lots of people at a family funeral today so they had to tell my DHs family too before people found out via FB or something! Baby is due in August.

Evening all! Sorry for the long absence, been feeling a bit crap. My mouth is much better now (stil painful, but not terrible), but my face is a state! It's quite swollen and bruised, looks like I've been in a fight. I was a bit worried about going to baby clinic today in case they thought DH had been beating me or something.

pula - exciting news about your DB&SIL! DH's cousin told us today that she is expecting her second.

running - exciting about new glasses. I like having new ones, it's always such a revelation when I can see better!! I was a bit disappointed when I had my eyes tested that my prescription hadn't changed so I couldn't justify new frames. And I wear contact lenses quite a lot anyway!

Hello Emmab! I dont know how you can cope not going out, I get really cabin feverish if we don't.

cherry sorry to hear J is ill, hope things improve quickly.

As I mentioned earlier, we went to the baby clinic to get A weighed. I hadn't been since October. She's now 16lb 8, so has gained a reasonable amount of weight, but has dropped another centile thingy on the chart. The HV wasn't at all worried as A never ever stops moving, but it does worry me slightly - she was on the 75th when she was born and is now on the 9th. I know babies don't follow charts, I know she's healthy etc etc, but it seems like a big drop. She's so dinky! She's always been bigger than DD1 at the same ages, but now she's smaller.

I'm off, ibuprofen and bed for me. Fingers crossed for calm sleepy nights and happy, healthy mums and children in the morning.

sitting in bed on a big wad of 3 pillows with a cup of tea.
now then... name check attempt if my eyes stay open.

cherry, I'm sorry as well to hear about J and hope he's better soon. It's so heart-breaking to see a small baby go through something like that. hopefully, the worst is over.

flippin, glad your mouth is better and hope the bruising on your face goes down soon.

pula, excellent news about your DBSIL!
belg, 'accidental' jumping beans session, hehe. i should do one of those...

ladyH, we're still having rough sleeping here with dd1&2 who wake up about 10x a night, sometimes running through the hall screaming . please let me know if the no cry sleep solution is helpful.

running, a new pair of glasses makes a world of difference. i wear lenses most of the time but got new glasses after dd2 broke my old ones. the new ones looked so much more updated and stylish and made me feel better.

dandy, very sweet 'dada' story . also echo others' good wishes about having a RL chat... hope you're ok.

emmabem, funny about the swimming. I would like to enrol my older 2 in swimming classes but know that dd1 will be terrified so holding off a bit.

meant to say that KIT went fine, the call was boring and long but did get me a bit excited to do something beyond parenting.

Work is only a few weeks away... eeek!

That was another shocker of a night. A slept ok until about midnight, then was awake on and off until 3:30! She's so snotty poor thing that she could hardly breathe and feeding was totally out of the question. I did get her back to sleep, but she woke again at 5 so I gave up and brought her downstairs. I think it's teeth, she doesn't seem particularly ill, just incredibly snotty. It was funny, she crashed out eating her breakfast - fast asleep in her shredded wheat!

My face is still bruised, attractive.

hope everyone is ok!

belgina Oh yes I will keep taking her as I don't want her to be afraid and I know she will get over it...but still! I felt bad but then I just was laughing too which made me feel worse! Everyone looking at us too like I was some horrid mother for trying to do something with my kid. Ah well

Flip I get cabin feverish too! I usually go out on my own to the store or errands or just take Emma. To take them both right now is not easy. S just started sitting on her own so before I was having to carry the car seat while trying to make sure DD1 held my hand and didn't get hit by a car lol

Well we had an interesting evening/night. S did not sleep a lot yesterday as she was busy pushing a tooth in! Yes, that's right folks, we have our first tooth!! Yeah! Am a a dork for crying when I felt it?
Anyyyway, E did not nap either and as you know she had a busy day...so 5pm everyone started getting whinny and crabby. E was having tantrums at the dinner table...I lost my temper and put her in a time out when she started to smear ketchup over her face...DH then lost it and told her to just go to bed. She was asleep by 5:30.
Meanwhile, S screamed the whole time we were trying to eat dinner...so I ended up giving S her night time bottle and putting her to bed too as she was so tired...asleep by 5:45. Neither one made a peep until 6:45. I am shocked, but also very pleased. Of course I didn't go to bed until 1 so now I am mad lol I felt so bad about E that I went to the store to get her a Dora magazine...oh I hate the guilt!

Anyway, just relaxing today as I have been going everywhere the last few days and we got snow again last night.

Hope everyone has a great day!

Morning all,

Not so good night for us A was awake 3 until 4 when we caved and gave her a bottle. She then slept until 6.45 when she drank another full 7oz bottle. I don't understand why she is waking again in the night hungry (this is the third night in a row now) as she seems to be eating loads and is drinking all her milk in the day too! Am going to try something really starchy for tea tonight to see if that helps fill her up.

re glasses - I wear lenses a lot too but find glasses are easier for work etc. Have actually been thinking about saving for some laser eye surgery but don't know if its possible yet on my eyes - as my glasses cost around £300 a pop because of the special lenses it would save me a lot of money in the long run.

glad the KIT day went well younger belg loving the idea of you accidentally going to jumping beans.

dandy that dada story is lovely. A is saying dadada a lot but this morning we had a mumumumum too

pula congrats to your DB&SIL

flip arnica cream is supposed to be good for bruising if you can get some.

We're off to meet some of our mum and baby friends this afternoon and to the shops to pick up A's new bike helmet DH is really looking forward to getting her on the bike seat at the weekend.

Hope everyone has a lovely day

Morning all,

emmab I have to echo flip's cabin fever comment. When dd1 was a baby we had a similar age difference and I had to take them out. BTW I never carry the car seat, because it's so heavy. I've always just taken the baby out (with all of them). Especially at this age! You must have some good arm muscles . TBH I can't take the car seat out now anyway, because I had to invest in a bigger car seat that faces both ways, because C had outgrown the carrier one by 5-6m

flippin Glad to hear your tooth feels a bit better. Boo about the night though. I hope you can have some rest today

younger great that your KIT day went fine.

pula Great news about your DBIL and DSIL

C and I are going out for a swim in a minute. Not looking forward to it, because we're both tired thanks to DH being home now and C poking my nose/grabbing my eyes in the night. I think it might be time soon to stop this co-sleeping business, especially when DH is home. I definitely got less sleep with her in bed last night than before. C woke up at about 9 again last night too. The only way to settle her seemed to be to roll her onto her side. Picking up definitely makes it worse. I really don't know why she's waking though. I'm sure she'll grow out of it again

Morning lovely ladies.

WIll add another shocking night from Casa Headless to the piles of terrible nights you all have had! running flip and belgina I feel your pain. emmab what was your secret??

DS1 replaced twice into his own bed, but finally rising at 5.15am wide awake. Thereby waking R up who had been in our bed since 11pm propped up on pillows - he is another one with rivers of snot and teething woes. So I probably had about 4 hours sleep.

As I was awake, I decided it was my turn to go to the gym at a ridiculously early hour!!! Leaving DH to deal with the DCs. Mwwwwaahhhhh ahhhhhhhhh ahhhhhhhhhh. I have to say, I did not feel like doing a spinning class at 7am but figured it may teach DH a bit of a lesson, and although I am bloody knackered now, I have spinned off a fair few calories.

belgina I know exactly how you feel about swimming. DS1 has a swimming lesson at 5 tonight and I cannot decide whether to take R for a dip at the same time. All the hassle about getting changed etc and its a bit late really for him. But sitting at the side of the pool with a squirmy baby and it was so hot there last week, maybe a swim would be easier!! Hope you manage to enjoy your swim though.

flip I did laugh at the image of A conked out in her breakfast. Hope your bruises heal fast.

younger when do you start back at work? I am 2 1/2 weeks away now......I am kind of looking forward to returning to the adult world but dreading the mornings and making sure everyone gets to the right place at the right time in the right clothes with the right bags etc.

Yes, emmab what is your secret??

Commiserations on your bad nights Headless running flip and belgina. Younger hope last night was better. Not great here, but not as bad as than some we have had of late - up every 2h instead of every hour. The thing I am bothered about at the moment is that H doesn't want to go back in his cot - he's ok the first part of the night but from 1ish onwards (when he knows I'm there next to him?) he has a massive tantrum if we try to put him back - even if he is asleep, he somehow knows and wakes up. I wouldn't mind, but we have never co-slept and I don't really want to start now. In fact I was hoping to get H in his own room soon .

I feel quite virtuous this morning as I've already done a few errands. I took H to the GP just to check his ear-pulling is teething as I suspect and not an ear infection - he got the all-clear. GP is an advocate of controlled crying etc, 'you don't want him in your bed when he's 5', rod for own back, they know how to manipulate you, blah blah. . Anyway, we also managed to go to the library, get oil for my car, and do some shopping so I'm now relaxing with a cuppa and a muffin while H has a nap, then we'll go to baby sensory.

Hope you all have good days.

Quick q - have been looking at train times for next Fri. How feasible is it for me to get the tube with a buggy? It seems the only way I can get from Kings Cross to W'loo is on the underground...

spangle Well done on your productive morning, especially with your lack of sleep. Enjoy your muffin

Hi everyone!! I wrote a long and witty post yesterday but it was lost in cyber space .

Lots of bad sleeping going on. We didn't have a great one either. R was awake at 1 and it took me until 3 to get him back in his cot and then he woke at 4.30 . He is sick. Lots of snot and a hacking little cough. I haven't taken him to the GP yet. Not sure if I should or not??? I have a sore throat too.

R started proper crawling yesterday and can go from sitting to lying to sitting again. He also has started to wave bye bye . I was trying to teach him to clap yesterday. He was staring at me with such concentration.

Emmab I used to take DD swimming most weeks before R was born and then didn't for months. I took her before christmas and she also was like a limpet on me. The next week she was full of confidence again. I haven't been since though. Its hard to swim with 2 young DCs!

Running You could take the bus easily from KC to WL with your buggy or if you check the tubes for wheelchair access. Or just smile at people and they are usually happy to help up stairs etc.

R is stirring so I better dash.Hi everyone else.

Oh god I don't have a secret lol

They are both in the same room now and have been for a few months. E used to be a really light sleeper...so I would always feed S as soon as she woke up as I didn't want to wake E. Now E is so used to S I can let her moan a bit and usually she goes back to sleep. I feed S with bottles at night and I don't pick her up if I can help it. I usually rub her belly or play with her hair before giving in to a bottle. She also got the hang of falling asleep on her own very quickly (and she is a thumb sucker which I think helps). They both go to bed awake and they both go to sleep without crying. I have heard E talking to S though so maybe that helps? I also play music when they go to bed. I honestly don't know what is the magic mix as I did all the same things with E and she didn't sleep through until she was 1...maybe it is some ones way of paying me back? lol

Mmmm, pancakes! We've just made some and they were yummy. Best thing is that G LOVED them and practically snatched them off the plate. Top snack.

I think we are in for some pretty serious teeth action. Still no teeth, but poor chap is in pain and has lots of swollen lumps on his gums.

Off to the gym tonight for treadmill (it is raining here so no outside for me) and a swim. I should be at the preschool committee meeting but I really can't be bothered. I don't feel guilty at all. I know it is wrong. But I feel really excluded there and just can't be arsed with the pettiness of it all.

books reading The Road at the moment. It is really good. Gripping, in fact. Back later, a child is calling.

Hello again folks.

Sorry to keep bogging off. I've stopped coming on Mn and swapped the time for knitting. I've started knitting again for myself, the children and friend's babies and am loving it. It might be saving my marriage too. although we still argue loads.

Belgina Dd2 just seems to know now when I'm going out, and has a special scream for the job.

Books I have just finished The secret life of Bees which was GREAT and last night I started Other womans shoes by Adele Parks which is funny and frivolous so far.

Our heating isn't working and DH is working till 11 so I'll be going to bed early tonight.

DS asleep but G awake still as she decided to have an unusual afternoon nap.. she's unfortunately enjoying in the night garden. i'll give you all a laugh.. dh must be feeling much better as he's been getting quite amorous over the last few days.. unfortunately for him either DS or G have scuppered his intentions for two days now.. which tbh has been a relief as i'm bushed with DS getting up at silly o clock the last few mornings. poor dh i think he's getting a bit frustrated though iykwim!
jennster i've been enjoying crocheting and i'm really getting in the mood to get out my bernina and do some sewing too. i've bought 2 pdf patterns off Etsy and i've book marked some more..
ooo boobs wanted.. back in a bit..

yay G asleep.. going to nip off for a soak in the bath before either dc wakes up for some reason..

Evening ladies.

Spangle- could H's ear-pulling just be a sign that he's over-tired? I know S does it when he is. I feel your frustration over nights too. If you think it is behavioural, as in he just doesn't want to go in his cot even though he's tired, i really do recommend pickup-putdown. It does involve crying but it does work.

S did take a while to go back to sleep in the night, whinging if we stopped patting him, but turns out one (if not two) teeth have cut through his gums so i will let him off . I am hoping for better sleep soon. He has actually had 2 nights of only waking twice- around our bedtime and then around 5, so either our half-hearted attempt at sleep-training worked, or else he was restless due to teething.

ahh that was a wonderful bath.. all to myself.. no DS wanting to climb in.. or keep dropping his toys in despite my protests.. absolute bliss!

pick up put down doesn't work whatsoever with C. She just cries more and more and more, but I've noticed that rolling her onto her side and then giving her back a rub sends her off, so that's my new technique. I'm not worried about putting her on her side at this stage, because she's been doing that herself anyway. It's not like a small baby where she'll get trapped. The plan is to put her back in her cot after a feed in the night rather than her coming into bed. Last night she kep me awake by poking my face, so hopefully she wont mind being put back in her cot after waking and go back to sleep.

jenn Nice to see you. I'm trying to stay awake from MN a bit more too, i.e. after a morning check no more until evening. It's been mostly successful, but not always

spangle I second pula on the ear pulling: it could be a sign of tiredness. Hope he'll give you a better night tonight.

I've had an e-mail from work today saying that my notice period for coming of ML had to be separate from my leaving notice, so really speaking I should have given them 8 weeks notice all together . I didn't do that, but they've sorted it all out. Looks like I'll get double pay in March, some from my old work and some from my new.

I found out this morning that there's no school tomorrow. Eek, what ever shall I do with the other 2.

belgina i did lol at the accidental jumping beans
dandy awww at dadada & sorry your night out got cancelled.. i hope you got your cuppa though.
teething i hope that the arrival of the new teeth mean some easier nights happen.
earpulling G i agree with pula could be tiredness. G doesn't ear pull but she does the head side to side thrash

meant to say febes hope R's cough eases.. i would go to the doc's tomorrow if it seems bad.. check his chest and clear your mind of worry before the weekend..