May 09 - The Sleepless Babies Club, All Dubious Fashions Welcome

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Ladies.

We have had a load of fresh snow this morning too. Just as it was thawing out and I had planned lots of outing for the rest of the week. The roads are so dangerous and gridlocked so we are in cabin fever central again [sigh]. DCs are napping at the moment though so hope they wake up happy.

Belgina and Ses I'd be keen for a Kent/ Surrey meet-up once this snow thaws out??!!

I've been laughing at all the talk of hign fashion of the past. I too went for 80s perms and dayglo clothes, stonewash denim jeans tapered in at the ankle but not in a good way. I had a plastic fake leather jacket that I wore everywhere when I was 18-20. It was hideous but I loved it for some reason.

I took R for his 8 month check today and he is 8.54 kg or 18.13 lbs and 73.5cm so big healthy boy. The HV thinks I should talk to the GP about PND, she made me get an appointment so I have one for next week. I don't feel depressed but I am so bloody tired and I keep getting sick. I have diahorrea at the moment anyway we'll see what he has to say.

I can't remember what I was going to name check but I might be back.....

BLOODY BLOODY BLOODY STUPID WEATHER

Ruined our meet-up. T'was snowing, so I thought I'd better stay put.

Now it's not snowing.

And I wanted to see Pula's green coat (green is my favourite colour and I've been fancying a green coat).

Oh and I wanted to see Reg and momi.

And I've never had a perm........

reggiee, pula, grumpy so sorry the meet=up was cancelled, we'll have to reschedule soon. sounded like bad weather down Pula and Grumpy's way. York is sleet and ice at the moment, the walk t preschool and nursery was a bit slippy and a nightmare getting the P&T through the slushy snow.

looby, hope you're recovering well.
belgina and ses, have been getting pressure from my dh as well but it's so difficult for me to get in the Mood. DH now has a very full Jan schedule. he's been leaving at 5.30 coming home at 9pm, was in london last night and will prob stay over tomorrow night. he's also quite stressed so I think he'll be off sex for a few weeks until work dies down.

febes, do talk to your GP. you'll feel better for the support even if it's only a little bit.

80's dress talk is funny! about hair, before my perm, i had really short hair that i bleached in the front John Taylor style .

just relaxing with dd1 on the sofa. what a treat. when H wakes up we have to go into town as dd1 has no trousers, she's grown out of her old ones now she's 4!

hope all are well.

grumpy grrrrr I too am with the weather foiling our meetup. DDs school was closed for the first time today, so my mummy-free day hasn't happened (although we have had a nice time together).

SF jab- DD,DS1 and DS2 had their jabs in quick succession at 5pm last night. They all slept well (the nurse said they might be affected last night) but DD says her arm hurts today and is also very tired (but that could be due to the swim we had earlier). DS2 had his in his leg and had a really good night- fed at 9.40pm and 2am, then was wide awake after his feed so i just dumped him in his cot and next thing i knew it was 7.20 as the alarm was going off. Wonder how he's been at nursery today.

My day has been soooo exciting and I missed you guys . Had a pizza for lunch and pretended I had some friends with me, so it was nearly the same .
I have done nothing productive except take the kids to nursery without any of us falling over (which is a miracle in itself as I am the world's most unstable person at the best of times (vertically rather than emotionally I should add)).

Am thinking I should go and sort our dd and ds's clothes after their recent growth spurts. But am quite comfy here.

SF jab - I received an invite for me (nope, not for the kids - just me so far) as I had been identified as high risk . Wonder what the doctor knows that I don't.

Febes re the dayglo clothes, did they match? I seem to recall having one bright orange and one lime green sock was the trend with us. And pmsl Llare at batwing jumpers. I had loads of those.

Belgina ikwym about lacking libido and dh pressure. I just don't feel particularly horny with my prolapse and piles combo . And I am still waiting for him to do something about a vasectomy.

Hello Ladies.

Been a bit busy recently with all the dc at home what with the weather and everything. Happy New year.

Happy New Year jenn

that your meet got snowed off Yorkshire gals. Hopefully you'll get to do it another time soon

ses febes I'm up for a Kent/Surrey meet some time too. As long as it's somewhere I can got to and back within school hours, IYKWIM.

Also went to baby clinic today. C got measured and weighed. She hasn't been measured since shortly after birth and she's not 76.5 cm or well above the top percentile . Because it's abnormal she needs remeasuring when she's one. They don't seem to do proper checks at 8m here though. I just went because I wanted to escape the house for a bit.

DH and I have had a bad day. Now we've argued about lots of stuff, including a mistake on the credit card of a pub meal (they charged us over £1000 ) and I haven't got the receipt anymore, so the cc company wont refund or check out the problem. So now I'll have to go to that pub and see what can be done. And it's all my fault. What's going on with DH and me? We don't normally argue all the time

well we've been v.boring and not ventured out today

On the plus side tho my new buggy snuggle thing arrived for the Quinny - it's so cool - purple on one side with a caterpillar appliqued on it, lime green on the other with purple stars (reversible) and so thick I know I'm very sad

M has developed a cough again and I think she is teething (v.whingy, sore bottom)

Must get out tomorrow tho, even if it's just to the local supermarket.

Feeling guilty as I haven't visited Mum since Monday. I know she prob won't realise but I feel bad.

NOW it's snowing. been a dreary, grey, misty day.

belgina, sorry about your probs with DH. Jan I think is a depressing month: right after Christmas, start of a new year, money pressures, lot of expectations. perhaps your DH is feeling stressed about this? my DH and I always feel down in Jan and argue especially over money at this time. it's a thought anyway. hope things improve soon.

Sorry to hear you've not been getting on well with your dh belgina. Dh and I haven't had sex since the night I went into labour and won't if he doesn't go for the snip. He made the initial appointment with the GP, got the booking appointment code through and it expired. Dd2 still in with us anyway, so it's not like we get the chance anyway.

It snowed most of the day here, but it was that whispy hardly there at all snow, that has covered the ground by a couple of mms.

Looby that buggy snuggle sounds very funky.

I've been knitting lots recently, and doing really well. It also stops me from drinking so much, as I won't stop in the middle of a row.

Dd2 has been sick 24 hours now. Not feeding very much and when she does it all comes back up. I got absolutely covered in undigested tagliatelle just before. We're on our 3rd bed sheet in less than 24 hours, and the washing machine is on it's 3rd wash today.

looby, H is whingey with a sore bottom as well. gums are bulging but teeth not through.

jennster, Happy New Year! Hope your dd2 is better soon. there's lots going round.

Hi all. Thanks for the new thread grumpy

Am I too late for a screaming orgasm? I think DH would like one too, and not only of the cocktail sort .

Belgina sorry you are having grumpiness with your DH. Momino is right, it's a depressing time of year which can aggravate any niggles. DH and I have been grumping at each other too, but I think it's mainly been my fault due to tiredness.

Looby don't feel guilty about having a break from visiting your mum, particularly if she won't really realise. When MIL was in hospital for over a month FIL and I had to talk DH into having a couple of nights off, he was just so exhausted.

Re 80's fashion crimes, I was a full on goth for several years (there are some pics on FB if anyone wants a laugh). So was DH (he had PVC trousers!). In fact, that's how I know him, all though we didn't get together until much later. We both still have to make an effort to wear non-black clothes .

BTW thanks to those who had advice/comiserations on H's crap sleeping. I think his worst nights are due to teething although there is absolutely no sign of any new gnashers!

Oh, and H has developed a new habit - when he hears a nursery rhyme he knows he rocks to and fro along to the music. Very cute.

it was a good thing our York meet up was cancelled. I just realised I'd been wearing my top front to back all day . I did think it looked a bit wrong, not as flattering as I thought. then I noticed the pockets were in the back instead of the front. I would have never heard the end of it from pula/grumpy/reggiee.

Hi spangle! x posted.

cute about H rocking to nursery rhymes .

morning it was a great nights sleep here for a change.. ds slept through and as G hasn't been V hungry for her 1st morning bf last couple of days i decided to skip her dreamfeed and see what happened.. well ds woke at 6am which is good for him and G slept through from 7pm to 6.30am!!!! i watched slumdog millionaire so was up late and in bed for midnight so not as much sleep as i could have had.. my own fault!

belgina sorry you had an off day bickering with dh yesterday. i've been lucky in that since dh has been poorly his libido has gone too.. but when he's feeling better he gets all fondly and frisky.. then the not so subtle comments & hints start.. G is out of our room now but still no urge for any action yet.

sorry the weather scupperd the york meet up utter pants!

jennster hope dd is a little better today.

looby it's important to look after yourself too.. and visiting the hospital every day for weeks is exhausting.. my mum and dad have been in hospital a few times for long periods and never realised until then how tired we'd all get. Now when they are ever in we take a few days off every week (and encourage other family to go on those days if we can).

spangle i've way too many black clothes here too. love the nursery rocking

bulging gums up top here too momino & lol at your top yesterday.. i've done the similar thing many times but mine is often inside out

I really, really am off on my course today. Wish me luck; is at the university which has a massive campus and I never know where on earth I am there.

The weather is horrid here today. The snowflakes have been replaced with thick fog, just the thing for navigating strange campuses!

Have a good day everyone.

good luck llare in a few weeks you'll know the campus like the back of your hand!

lol at top momino I wore a cardigan inside out for most of the day last week

good luck today llare

decided to keep M off nursery today (she was due to go for an hour) didn't fancy pushing the buggy thro quite deep snow there and back plus she's developed a cough now.

off round the corner to my niece in an hour to cut my hair cut - just hope I manage to find the time to dye it

Morning,

Yay for your night Fi hope it continues.

momi I am always wearing cardigans inside out. The kids in school used to regularly point it out to me

Hope your course goes well llare

Sorry your meet up was cancelled folks. I hope that you manage to rearrange it sometime.

Belg hope you have a better day today. I've been snappy with DH recently, I think it is partly the time of year and a bit of cabin fever due to the weather and having no money to do anything.

Jenn oh no not more puke! Hope DD2 recovers soon.

Morning!

2 "good" nights in a row here. O woke just once at 3am, had a feed and went back to sleep in his cot until 5.45am. Maybe this is a lucky sleeping thread?! Seems to be for me and Fi at least

Llare - hope you find your day beneficial and manage to navigate the campus.

Jennster - bet you were hoping for a puke free 2010 after all you had at the end of 2009. Hope she picks up quickly.

Spangle - lovely image of H rocking to the nursery rhymes.

Fashion crimes - I had one of those awful 80s perms and a few batwing jumpers. Also went through a phase of fingerless gloves and suede pixie boots

Snow - finally starting to melt here

puppy update - DH asked me to arrange to go and view some Springer Spaniel puppies in north London on Saturday which I duly did. He's just texted to say he's found some near where he works that's he's going to view this evening. "I wanted us to view and choose together!!!" (stroppy, sulky teenager style!) I phoned him and told him that and he said that he knew I'd think that but that's what he's going to do.
Tbh, he's the one that knows what he's talking about and Lucy just really needs a friend so we just need to get it sorted.

ses I'm currently wearing a batwing top and i wore fingerless gloves to school today

momi I wouldn't have said anything about your top, honest!

belgina I'm sorry to hear you and DH are having problems - I definitely think part of it will be the 'just after Christmas, we spent too much, we're skint' thing. I think my DH also feels under pressure at the mo, as the 'breadwinner', me being on ML and all. Never mind that he always earnt more than me and although we're skint, we're no more skint than usual! With regard to relations, I have to confess that I have 'given in' several times so to speak, it keeps him quiet and happy . It's a terrible thing to admit, but I don't mind, it doesn't usually take too long .

grumpy Ah yes, I'd give him it if he asked for it, but he just sits in the sofa asks: When are you going to dress up? As a libido-less female I'm never going to think of doing anything like that by myself, but if he'd you know jump me, he might just get lucky, but he seems to want it and wait for me to make the first mood [strange creatures these men emoticon] Less grumps otherwise today, but I haven't really been home either

llare Good luck with your course today. I hope you enjoyed it.

looby Try not to feel too guilty (I know it's difficult). If your mum wont realise you haven't been, sadly she'll probably not miss you either. You'll see her as soon as you can and you know that

Will now go off to check on spangle's goth look on fb

belgina IKWYM - although actually, DH hasn't been too bad since H was born, he hasn't complained about the lack of action or effort on my part, and seems to sense the (few) occasions I might be amenable. It's so off-putting, and a bit selfish really, to ask you to make the effort... if he wants it he needs to make the effort to get you in the mood.

Since my periods came back I've started to feel a bit more normal in that respect but H's crap sleeping has put paid to any serious thoughts of hanky panky. Hmm, must remember to dig out my pills. I lost a box and couldn't even be bothered to look for them for months. Now they're by the bed but I still haven't got around to taking them. I'm interested to see how quickly my cycle settles down first .

llare hope you enjoyed your course.

H is having a long nap for once but really a bit late in the day for getting him to bed at the normal time . Anyway, while he's asleep, can I ask you wise ladies for some advice?

I've been getting in a bit of a tizz about H starting nursery. He's not due to start until the middle of March, but as I've said before, he's being very slow on the uptake with this eating business, which is fine in itself but it looks like milk will still be a major part of his diet when he starts nursery. Currently he only takes milk via bf and I have had no luck at all with expressing - the most I've got is 2oz when H was off-colour and not feeding properly. He seems to hate formula, so much so I'm scared to keep offering in case it puts him off using his cup (he won't take a bottle). I haven't tried him with cow's milk yet but I have a feeling he won't take it due to slight intolerance (another problem), as he refuses cereal with milk and yoghurt.

I think a couple of you (llare and belgina?) said your LOs just went without and made up for it in the evenings/night - but presumably they were eating reasonable quantities of solids? I don't know whether I should keep trying to express and try to slowly build up a store, or try getting him used to soy milk (since he'll 2 weeks of 12 months by then) - or just to leave him and hope for the best . Any advice greatly appreciated!

Spangle yes, I did say that DS1 used to wait for me to return home for milk. I've been out for the day today (left at 9ish and returned at 5pm) and DS2 didn't have any milk at all, just solids. He pretty much ripped my buttons off to get to my norks, however! It was so funny. It was lovely to see how pleased he was to see me.

He does eat quite a bit of solids. This morning he had a weetabix. He had a blueberry muffin as a mid-morning snack, and sweet potato and butternut squash soup and sarnies for lunch. He had crackers and cheese for a snack then meatballs and pasta this evening. So today he just had 2 milk feeds, and will have another before bed.

My course was really good. It was all about website planning with other small business owners or women planning start-ups. It was odd though. I had the sudden realisation that for the last 9 months or so the majority of my adult interaction with the outside world has been through mumsnet, twitter and facebook. Obviously I have seen friends and family but day-to-day my window to the world is the internet. I definitely need to get out more and put the laptop down so I have decided that I am going to start working with DH sooner rather than later, starting next week! It will help me make an informed decision about whether to go back to my old job or not.

Belgina I am a bit at your DH's comments about dressing-up. I don't think DH would dare say anything like that to me. Why is he bothered about you wearing skirts?

Jenn sorry to hear there is more illness at yours. It really isn't fair!