Jan 2010 babies and mothers....come here to hibernate!

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New thread for us Jan 2010 mums. Will hopefully get busier as more of our little ones arrive!

Arrivals List
1st Dec - Missmarjoribanks - boy Thomas William Francis (33+4)
10th Dec - ClaireDB - girl Mira - 5lb 11.5oz (36+5)
11th Dec - Alibobins - boy Jacob, 6lbs 1oz (37weeks)
14th Dec - londonlottie - twin girls Juliet 6lb 1 and Eve 5lb 6 (35+5)
15 Dec - Whensmydayoff - girl Olivia - 6lb (36+6)
22 Dec - Liskey - girl Ellie - 5.5lbs
24 Dec - timmette/shinybaubles - boy Oliver - 7lb
25 Dec - Fakeplastictrees - boy Luke Edward
29 Dec - CantThinkofFunnyName - girl Olivia Iris - 6lbs 2 1/2oz
30 Dec - Liny - Nottinghamsire - girl Elise
1 Jan - TheMinnieBauble - boy Freddie - Weight TBC
2 Jan - nomorebboze - girl Megan - 5lbs 12oz
5 Jan - Fraochsmum - girl, name TBC - 6LBS 2oz
5 Jan - FlightofFancy - boy Edward - 6lb 14oz (37+3)
6 Jan - salvadory - girl Imogen
7 Jan - MistletoeKisses - boy Nicolas - 6lb 8oz
10 Jan- crumpette- boy 'babycrumpette'- 8lb 15 oz

Evening everyone.

Ai - how is Jacob doing now?

Crumpette - It sounds like your caught in a really difficult situation but i would say i agree with the others around whether you can forgive and move on. In no way am i trying to compare because my situation has nowhere near the past yours has but i made the break from Jacks dad as i realised that we weren't right for each other and should have broken up long ago. The way i thought about it was that it would be so much harder to make the break the longer we were together and he was involved with DS day to day. I would rather Jack have 2 happy parents that aren't together than having us stay together for the sake of him as from my parents relationship my personal experience is that can be much worse (our family had issues of domestic violence etc so was quite extreme). I'll be honest and say being alone is no means easy, nor is it when you're with someone but in the same way every day i look after Jack by myself i'm proud because i'm doing that and hes healthy and happy and anything his dad decides to do is a bonus but we have each other. I hope that helps and i hope im not sounding patronising.

On a positive note Jack is becoming very smiley and he giggled tonight in his sleep and it was so cute. His smiles are "special" as hes still perfecting it but its definitely a smile and they're extra special in a good way because he wont smile for anyone else, only the lady with the booby milk!! Hes a clever boy already.

Ali - I have no experience of allergies but does Jacob's rash correlate with where his face touches the sheet? Only I have noticed that if Thomas is particularly sicky in the night he gets a rash on his face where he has been lying on the damp sheet (with the best will in the world I can't change it once an hour). Agree you should take him to the GP though.

The mastitis was so bad today that, totally out of character for me, I went to a NHS walk in centre and begged for antibiotics. I had expressed a load of pus , it was agony and I had a raging fever. Seriously, it was worse than childbirth. I had to go to two hospitals as the first one I turned up at was at that moment being evacuated due to a fire (I had phoned not half an hour previously and was told to come straight in...). Thankfully the second hospital (on the other side of Manchester) was operating and I managed to leave (albeit after 2 hours) with the required drugs. I left Thomas with DH and instructions to raid the freezer for EBM if he woke up screaming.

In the event he did a load of housework and cooked dinner as well.

Hi all- wow this thread really moves i havent had a chance to catch up but CONGRATS - to all the new mummies who may of had babies over the weekend - BF - yes finding it all so unreal how my breasts have grown soo huge over nite.
Im now expressing so DH can do the nite feds, Isaiah is waking up from 4.1/2hrs sleep he has bad wind and hates the infacol!
Anyway hope all is well and that the everyone!
i think this wind in our babies is such a nightmare for us all!
YM- Congrats & DEVO - CONGRATS!!!!! so happy for you and i hope you had the birth you wanted so badly!
isaiah is getting ermm whats the word circumstinced tomo!( Spelling) ahhh my poor boy but DH is insisting and says its the best thing to do for the future! what do i know im a women! well im off my household are all sleeping so i better go sleep as well! nite!

newbeginnings Jack smiling already! So jealous how sweet! Have spied this one smiling to himself in his sleep but am convinced it's a large dose of wind and not mummy love! sigh

Jacob slept really well last night only sick once so a bit better.

Been to Gp and the rash is exzema he is covered but it doesn't seem to cause him any discomfort. Gp gave him creams and bath ointment and got to go back Wednesday to see if the sick has stopped.

She said it might be a bug but if no better then she thinks he may well be developing a milk allergy especially as Ds1 was allergic to milk

Spoke to Ds1 consultants secutary and left him a message.

Can't believe all this is happening I just wanted to enjoy my baby and just feel its one thing after another.
When people found out I was expecting Jacob they thought I was silly as Ds1 has so many health problems then Dd got diagnosed in june and now I'm beginning to think they were right just feel so down about the situation

I do love Jacob and wouldn't change him but it just doesn't feel like that new baby excitement (God I sound awful)

Hello and welcome to February. Baby and I seem to have been left off the list, so we've added ourselves again:

ARRIVED
1st Dec - Missmarjoribanks - boy Thomas William Francis (33+4)
10th Dec - ClaireDB - girl Mira - 5lb 11.5oz (36+5)
11th Dec - Alibobins - boy Jacob, 6lbs 1oz (37weeks)
14th Dec - londonlottie - twin girls Juliet 6lb 1 and Eve 5lb 6 (35+5)
15 Dec - Whensmydayoff - girl Olivia - 6lb (36+6)
22 Dec - Liskey - girl Ellie - 5.5lbs
24 Dec - timmette/shinybaubles - boy Oliver - 7lb (38)
25 Dec - Fakeplastictrees - boy Luke Edward
29 Dec - CantThinkofFunnyName - girl Olivia Iris - 6lbs 2 1/2oz (38+5)
30 Dec - Liny - Nottinghamsire - girl Elise
1 Jan - TheMinnieBauble - boy Freddie - Weight TBC
2 Jan - nomorebboze - girl Megan - 5lbs 12oz
2 Jan - Jasmeeen - girl Annalise Marie - 7lbs (38+1)
5 Jan - Fraochsmum - girl Cara Elise - 6lbs 2oz
5 Jan - FlightofFancy - boy Edward - 6lbs 14oz (37+3)
6 Jan - salvadory - girl Imogen - weight TBC
7 Jan - MistletoeKisses - boy Nicolas - 6lbs 8oz
9 Jan - Pepa - girl Marilla - Weight TBC
9 Jan - krldt0710 - girl Alice - 6lb 10oz
9 Jan - Sleepingalot - boy Cian 9lb 3oz
10 Jan - crumpette- boy 'babycrumpette'- 8lb 15 oz
10 Jan - Bethoo - girl Kira - 8lb 0.5oz
11 Jan - MissChatterbox - boy Jude - 7lb 6oz
11 Jan - MrsVik - girl, Lucia Rowan - 8lb 1oz
11 Jan - natapillar - boy, Caleb - 8lb 7oz
12 Jan - bigpreggybelly - boy Henry Julian 7lb 9oz
12 Jan - quirkychick - girl "baby quirkchick" - 7lb 13oz
12 Jan - DeeMented - boy, Tate Aneurin - 9lb 15 1/2 oz!
14 Jan - Somewhathorrified - WAITING FOR DETAILS!
15 Jan - Ampster - girl Edith Priscilla Mae - 7lb 3oz
15 Jan - Zen1980 - girl Zaizy Katlyne - 9lb 2oz
16 Jan - Flyingma - boy Aiden - 7lb 3oz
16 Jan - Showmethemummy/TheGrumpallo - DD3 Ada Joy 8lb2oz
18 Jan - chickbean - girl Martha Grace 8lb 6oz
18 Jan - HappyBump - boy Samuel James 8lb (38+5)
18 Jan - Thingiebob - girl Mia Rose - 7lb 2oz
19 Jan - JoInScotland - boy Tristan Frederick 9 lbs 8 oz
20 Jan - Siochfradha - boy Rory Alexander - 8lb 3oz
20 Jan - MamaLazarou - boy Luther - 7lb 13oz
21 Jan - Mama2b5 - boy Isaiah - 7lbs 2oz - 39 weeks
23 Jan - Iateallthecreameggsyummy / HurryDowntheChimney - boy William Raymond
23 Jan - Lilacpink - boy William - 7lbs 4oz
24 Jan - noodlesforbreakfast - girl Charlotte Elise 8lbs 2oz - 40+1
25 Jan - Fififorgot - boy Angus Howard Charles - 7lb 10oz
26 Jan - Partyofseven - girl Erin May - 8lb 13oz - 40+10
27 Jan - Sazlocks - boy Samuel James - 8lb 9 1/2 oz
27 Jan - Sockmonkey - girl Naomi Bronwyn - 6lb 4oz
28 Jan - Yangymac - girl NAME TBC - 9lb 13oz Come on ladies - now 31st JanHa
29 Jan - helenabeth - boy Finlay Noah - 7lb 14oz
29 Jan - Devotion - girl Uma - 8lb 5oz
29 Jan - Laura233 - girl Amelia Grace - 8lb 1oz

Sorry to hear you sound so down alibobins, it really must be awful to have something wrong with the wee ones
I am looking for some advice with regards presents here; what is the general 'done thing' when thanking people for gifts? I know some people who have sent a 'standard' thank you message with a photo of the wee one on it, but my mum thinks it would be much better to send a personalised one to everyone. I too would prefer to do this, but I have 60 already to do and am still getting at least 2 new pressies for her every day. What are your thoughts? Have to say I am overwhelmed at the generosity of people - hubby has just banked £300 that people have put in the pram!
I gave Cara her first bottle of expressed milk last night, just to see that she would take it tbh, which she did. However, do I remember my mw/hv saying that it was important to give them their last feed before bed from yourself, because you produce more later in the day to keep them going through the night? Was it to do with not getting mastitis? Did I make this up completely???

MissMB - Are you feeling any better today?

Ali - You don't sound awful at all, it sounds as though you might have a tough time ahead of you. Just try and take every feed at a time with Jacob and see how he gets on and fingers crossed thngs get better for you.

Fraochsmum - i've never heard that their last feed needs to come from you but your milk producing hormones are at their optimum in the early hours of the morning, about 2 am i think. The only thing to bear in mind is that to not lower your milk production that you express whenever they have a botte.

Jack is being a cheeky chappy today. For the first time today i managed to have a shower whilst he was awake playing on his mat rather than putting him down once he'd fallen asleep and having the quickest shower before he woke up screaming because i'd put him down. He finally went off to sleep as well after a good 45 minutes walk but as soon as we got home just as we were walking through the door he woke up, i'm sure he knows!! I hope everyone's having good days.

ali you are not in the slightest bit awful, it's been one thing after another for you with Jacob (and DD in your pregnancy)so far so understandably any more hospital visits etc will make you want to jump up and down screaming like a banshee and tearing your hair out. It's totally understandable that you may feel a bit despondent about Jacob at the moment as you have a path ahead of you that isn't as smooth as you had hoped for. Keep venting on here as we are all here.

I have heard that 80% of babies who have a milk allergy recover completely by the age of 3, so there's a good statistical chance that this will apply with your Jacob

fraochs I have never encounutered that info on last feeds but nor have I ever encountered money in the pram so could easily be right! I personally find my supply is highest in the morning, but perhaps that could be because I have gone longer without feeding or expressing so it's just an illusion

please excuse typos am typing one handed!

Thanks for the advice guys...seems I have entirely made it up then pregnancy brain mut still be on the go! Crumpette I think the money is a tradition in this town/area - it is deemed unlucky to look in the pram without putting some silver in it.

Hi! Fast moving thread!

Crumpette - Re. your post about your friends, I have to say that I think you are being overly harsh on yourself. Hindsight is a wonderful thing so dont beat yourself up about your decisions. And you never know, despite what you think, your friends may still be there for you - why dont you try tentatively contacting a few and take it from there??

Lottie - how is your knee and wrist today? Having done one pregnancy before (although not one with twins), I can promise you that you will feel normal again. It just takes time for your body to recover. And you will be running/ swimming again. I was belting out 5-10k runs by the time DS was 9 months old. Didnt do heavy exercising whilst bfeeding. Once you get the all clear from your 6 week check up - maybe start doing some core strengthening exercises - that will help you heaps. Your post about explosive poos made me laugh and reminded me about my first 'up the back' epsiode with DS1. I went into temporary shock when I realised what had happened. Is yet to happen with Nico, but is just a matter of time. Isn't motherhood just so glamourous!

MMB - How is the mastitis? Hope the AB's are kicking in.

CTFN - glad your DH redeemed himself. .

Ali - to you. You are going through the mill, and have been for sometime, especially with the worries over your DD. Have you spoken to anyone in RL about how you are feeling?

Fraoch - we were inundated with presents when DS1 was born, I am fairly old school and sent them all thank you cards with a personal note in each. Plus I kept a list of who had sent/ given what so I could ensure that they received adequate gifts in return for when they next had a celebratory occasion.
Re. the expressed milk, I too have read that apparently the milk in the evening contains a higher level of fat. But I was never able to express loads in the evening, struggled to get more than a few ounces. I would express early morning after DS's first feed and get enough for the evening feed within 15 mins, so I stuck with what worked and expressed first thing. My last feed with DS was around 7.30pm and then I went to bed. My supply was absolutely fine (probably because first thing in the morning, I consistently emptied my breasts to do two whole feeds, so my body continued to produce lots of milk for that time). But apparently what worked for me can cause supply issues with some women, so keep an eye on your supply.

What a mahoosive post! I have had a very chilled day today. DS1 at nursery and so I relaxed. DS1 gets his swine flu jab tomorrow, not looking forward to that.
Ho hum, tis better to be safe than sorry.

Hello all - I'm feeling much much better today thanks. I could actually feel the microscopic level punch up going on in my boob as a tingly feeling during the night and I'm pleased to report that the antibiotics appear to have come out on top. I gave bfing a go on the affected side from the lunchtime feed and it was fine. The blockages are still there as I still can feel the lumps, but I just need to massage those out over the next day or so.

Lottie - I was wallowing in such a pit of self-absorbed misery yesterday that I failed to notice you had fallen and hurt yourself . Ouch. Hope you are on the mend now.

Fraoch - I also understand that milk supply hormones are greatest between 12 midnight and 2am. When I was exclusively expressing I got loads first thing in the morning, then relatively little in the afternoon and early evening with an increase in supply towards midnight and between 3am and 4am. Of course, if you're bfing, the baby is just taking what is available so it doesn't really matter if your supply is lower. I'm intending to reintroduce a bottle of EBM in the evenings to get T's vitamins into him (he is prescribed them until 12 months in liquid form, easier than syringing them into his mouth) and will express 24 hours in advance so that if I ever need to bottle feed him at another time during the day as an 'emergency', the milk is there.

My son has been terribly full of wind and also congested the last few days (surely the two are related - congested so swallowing air during feeding)?

He now wants to feed for 20 minutes and fall asleep... used to feed for 45 or 50 minutes at a go and then sleep really well. How to keep him awake and going for a full feed? Also, he likes to just take the nipple and fall asleep now, presumably for comfort - how to stop this?!? We are knackered and my partner is functioning on about 2 hours sleep a night, as he has Baby propped up on his stomach to sleep due to the wind. Infacol is really helping, but I'm afraid we are producing a child who does not want to be put down for any reason, and who has stopped being able to get to sleep by himself!

Morning!

Jo - your baby will become much faster at feeding the older they get. DS is now able to feed in 10-15 mins at night. Any attempts to get more into him simply arent happening - but he is still going for 2-3 hour sleeps so am not too worried.
Re. the comfort sucking, DS1 was like this and I resorted to using a dummy. Really helped me, but it can also become a bit of a pain as if it falls out, they wake and you wake simply to give them the dummy back.
But at this age, you really cannot spoil them. And there will be nights when they are more unsettled and any routine you thought you had going will be disrupted. My advice is to ride it out and it will pass.

Lottie - Hope you feel better soon. You really didnt need that on top of everything else.

MMB - am soo glad the AB's have kicked in. Mastitis sounds so painful.

We had an ok night - got one three hour stretch and the rest were 2 hours again. So not total zombie zone, but still feeling tired. Hope everyone else ok.

Morning lovely ladies.

Lottie - you are right, this thread reassuring. I think we are all learning from each other every step of the way. How helpful it is to see what others go through, to give advice, receive advice and share our experiences together. If I could send Reiki vibes - I'd do that to help you get better - but I have absolutely no Reiki knowledge, so I can't !

MMB - I totally understand what you're going through. I had mastitis with DD1 7 years ago and it was horrendous - you poor thing. Antibiotics and feeding/expressing through the pain is quite literally the only thing that works. So pleased to hear that you are on the mend though.

Ali - how's Jacob? I was reading a bit more of the Baby Whisperer book last night and it said that reflux babies can produce cottage cheese style vomit as much as an hour after their feeds. Presumably you have now had him checked at the GPs - but might be worth bearing the reflux thing in mind - particularly with everything else he's had.

So - despite being DC3, I really do feel at times that I'm starting from scratch with Olivia - pregnancy mush brain, too old for this malarkey brain - whatever we want to call it but sometimes I really just cannot think sensibly!

My little advice seeking this morning is that Olivia, poor little love, seems to have a wretched cold, which is hardly surprising as DS1 and DD1 both have developed stinking colds in the last few days. Her little nose is so congested, she's sneezing, coughing and can't breathe properly because her nose is so blocked up. Suffice to say, not a great night. I just wish I could take it away from her. Any ideas/advice on how I can help clear nose at least for a 5 week old? The typical menthol type products you can't use until babies are 3 months - although I was wondering about getting come Karvol drops, putting on a muslin square and placing in a close vicinity to her. Anyone else done this with their babies - or previous ones?

Right - better skoot as she has her hearing test this morning and I have to shower .

Just quickly as am balancing sleepy baby on chest - CTOFN you can buy something called a nasal aspirator like this which will clear out her nose without needing to give her anything. They used them in SCBU.

I have yet to shower as well and we have been out to baby clinic. Thomas now weighs 8lb and is clinging tightly to that 25th centile.

JoInScotland - i'm in the same situation. Ds wont settle unless hes sucking on me unless he's had formula and then he's fine. The HV did tell me if i was confident he was full and had a clean nappy etc then to put him down and reassure him but not pick him up and then he will settle himself. I managed it for 12 hours but then caved and felt so incredibly bad and it took us a few days to recover, i say us but i mean me! Needless to say we don't do that now.

Lottie - I really don't know how you manage it with 2 babies, i can only just cope with 1 especially with your war wounds. If you could share any info from the book you mentioned as any advice would be appreciated.

CTOFN - The HV recommended Olbas Oil but the one for kids as a cheaper alternative to Karvol and putting it on a muslin square etc then placing it on a radiator so maybe you could give that a go. We have used a nasal aspirator and luckily Jack is ok with me using it although some babies hate them apparently but it worked well for us.

Jacks just been weighed and has put on a lb in a week and that was after his explosive poo last night. He's been very smiley again today which is very cute and makes my heart melt every time.

JOINSCOTLAND, Hi, sorry for stalking, gave you the wrong email addy for PP!

Ctofn when Jacob had a cold we put baby snuffle on some muslim and put it on radiator in my bedroom he was only 3 weeks so should be okay for Olivia hope she is okay keep an eye on her as thats how Jacobs bronchiolitis started.

Jacobs skin is better and only been using the creams one day

He is still being sick so we back at the doctors tomorrow x x