January 2008 Shiny New Year Toddlers - Happy 2nd birthday to us!!

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Where did 2 years go ????

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Simpson - that's horrible. It happened in the car once to us and it went everywhere. Just awful.

Filly - Yay Filly. Glad all looks well. I'm really glad for you. I'll be searching your posts for a giveaway pronoun!

Evening all

Hi Hollyoaks

LaT - must be so nice to have some worries/weight lifted off your shoulders. Haven't heard you say much about sickness recently has it passed?

G - is G ok?

Ange/IWST - i decide in advance not to watch that programme about birth, knew it wound wind me up/upset me, etc.

IWST - those monitors are the bane of every parent's lives in hosp.

They tried to lie H on me (with just a nappy on & a towel, i think, memory is fuzzy( but i went all shaky post spinal so had to get DH to take him away then i couldn't stop shaking for ages in recovery.
With T, had him at home, should have been no probs, but the placenta got stuck (took 2 hours) so DH ended up dressing him (in the WRONG clothes!!) and cuddling him for ages.
So maybe, regardless of anything else, skin to skin with baby should be on my future birth plans!!

Filly - so glad all is well!
Yey for your sister!

Simps - nightmare. Hope M hasn't got anything serious.

All good here, H good, T learning to be a big brother, slowly, lol.

Afternoon all.
Yes George is fine. He woke after his usual 2 hour nap and went to bed just fine last night and is fine today so goodness knows what that was all about was lovely to just sit and cuddle and it also got me out of tidying the toys away
I watched that programme in a haze of tears more for the fact that I wont be doing that ever again Ah well.
Hey filly pretty please with sprinkles and a cherry on top ?
Just one of my big boys coming up for half term. The other one has been a lazy bugger at school and his Dad has decided he will spend half term catching up. I think he thought he would try to soft soap me by saying he promises to do all his work here and would study and not gout etc. Nope his school work is far too important now.
Well we are off out soon to my sil's though it is sleet/snowing so we will see.....
xx for all big and small

Hi all

How are we all doing? Typical Saturday here - got the shopping out of the way and Nathan has a birthday party this afternoon.

Gingeme find it sweet that you watched the baby program in tears as you were so absolutely adamant no never again that's it etc and now George is growing up so fast do you wish you could have another baby?

Want to say really impressed with communication and decision making between you and ex-h - must be good for your ds to get such a clear message from both of you.

All uneventful here. On Monday I will meet up with a woman who I met via mn who has the same abuse history as I have and who is very much in the same place re processing it. We are meeting in the Cotswolds, she lives in swindon, and a friend is dropping me off there which is lovely as I won't need ot worru about driving too far (concentration pants again, was so much better - just need the trip to Holland out of the way)

Ange glad you talked to me - anytime you know that. Hope things steady now.

Hollyoaks hope you're starting to feel at home here

Hi all

Ange - how strange, I bet we live in the same estate

Willsurvivethis - yes, starting to feel at home, still trying to get to grips with everyone's stories and how many dc they have but getting there.

Think we might begin potty training this afternoon, we've had one previous attempt but dd got scared when she had a poo so we left it for a month. Off for a week so might as well give it a go.

Hollyoaks - good luck with the potty training

Well was supposed to have a date tonight

But I have bailed out as I would rather veg on sofa in PJs eating a takeaway

Hi all, Oh yes wst I would love to have another 3 babies Two of my aunties had 9 babies and my Mum said she thought I would follow in their footsteps. If we had more money and room maybe I would have
You kept that quiet Simpson care to share ?
Good luck Hollyoaks with the potty training. Im not attempting it till the summer and hopefuly George wont take to long as he has his big brothers to follow
On a good note I bought some new knickers today and they were a size smaller and very pretty with minnie mouse on them

Gingeme - I am potty training M in the summer too and will try and get J dry in the night if he has not done it by then..

Well done on the weight loss

Have lost another half a stone here so am now a size 12

Well done Simps! and more info on date please?!

Am planning to put T in pants from Tues (no pre-sch as half term) and see what happens....

At the current rate friends DDs x 2 will be in pants before T, they are both younger than H!

H turned pages in a book tonight, yey
Also walked a long way round the block tonight. Still having a long afternoon nap though after cutting he down last week he's gone back up again.
still no seizures though, hoorah.

hi all. Congrats La T i have to agree my 7mth old little Noah is very chilled and likes a cuddle with his mummy.

On the other hand my devil child daughter has done the following - i was putting her to bed when dh came home and said he would take over one of them. charlie looked at me and said "no not you reading charlie a story", then the next morning as i dragged my weary body (Noah up a lot in night at mo) to get her out of bed in the morning dh stil asleep againd said "No not you get me out of bed"

then on friday on way home from nursery cried and said I dont want to go home i want to go back to toddler room i asked why she said there are people there.

anyway so she's obviously having an everyone is more interesting than my mummy phase.

places for london meet up help

FILLY dont be naughty ..........what flavour pink or blue thats not telling us the sex just a colour????

also got told off today by daughter as i licked a bit of egg of my knife only to be told mummy dont eat off your knife i apologise am told not to do it again, i say ok then am told i will have to go on naughty step to which i replied i would not as i stopped straight away and didnt do it again like a good mummy - UNBELIEVABLE

LOL Nicky!!!

(T has declared he's going to turn me into the police as i managed to drive to a friends house without strapping him in I have apologised, and reminded him that he should tell me if i forget in the future!!)

Not the transport museum, we went there the other day, the play area bit has chairs and tables but it's not near the cafe bit.
Other ideas?

LOL at T and Charlie

M was naughty today and told me she was putting herself on the naughty step!!

Have to say I spoiled the moment by cracking up laughing instead of putting her there (she had hit J)

JKS/gingeme - is a bloke I met a few weeks ago. Is rather pleasing on the eye if I say so myself but not really ready for all that yet

I often laugh at the wrong moments with T, a struggle to keep a straight/stern face as needed

A nice dinner out would be good though????

JKS - TBh the thought just fills me with Nooooo right now (about going out with said man or any man for that matter tbh)

But will think about it!!!

Confession time: M has been pooing a lot the last few days and I have taught her to say

"M is a pooing machine!"

Simpson it would have been good for you just to have some fun as I said on fb you don't have to marry him x

JKS maybe H's naps are up to cope with all the excitement and activity of the last few days?

Ouch, have done my back in. Nathan was invited to birthday party of four year old dd of friend and I did not want him to miss out on the pass the parcel, musical chairs, dancing with bubbles etc so I walked him through everything. Not sure I'll get out of bed in the morning! He had massive fun though so it's worth it, hope his frame comes soon now! On the upside he can sit on normal chair and eat birthday tea without even a wobble (you need to have a child with cp to know how 'big' those things are)

hey all calling in late
Had lovely meal tonight for valentines but dp has gone to bed now so i am finishing off the bottle of vino!

Simps sorry the date didn't go to plan.

Filly glad you had good news on scan too!!

Nothing much to add here , had mega sort out today. 6 bags to charity shop and 5 to tip. Mostly toys!

LOL at naughty antics.

DH absolutely burst out laughing yesterday when Sabela had run out of the cafe we were in, as we were leaving. I caught her and did my usual, 'Are you being a good girl' routine, to which she answered honestly, 'No.' Which DH 'ruined' by clapping and laughing!

Sorry about the back IWST. ANy better today. I'm overdue a trip to the ostepath too though I can't blame S. As she says, the same thing happend every 6 months or so, either because of the way I'm made or what I do. Got to be true!

JKS - thanks for enquiring about sickness. Honestly, today I feel awful - as I was a few weeks ago. Usually, I'm just sick in the morning and then feel ok. I'm pretty resigned to it and am not really expecting it to go. HO hum. Pregnancy just doesn't suit me, I guess.

Hello to all. My levels of concentration are NOT high at the moment! So, sorry.

Thanks for the interest...and support! I may 'share' nearer the time, but for now I'm not telling anyone at all in RL and I think its safer to do the same on here, otherwise I'm bound to mess up and let it slip by mistake

LaT - is it possible you've got the horrible sickness bug that's doing the rounds, rather than MS?

Gingeme @ new knickers!! You go, girl!

Simpson, only you will know when you're 'ready' for the whole dating thing again, but (warning, gentle chiding to follow...) it will always be more tempting to sit on the sofa eating a takeaway in your pyjamas than to get dressed up and go out. Tbh , its the reason dh and I have been so pants at going out recently - but then, when we do, its so much fun just being 'out' in a grown-up-not-looking-after-children-being-able-to-have-a-glass-of-wine-way (ok, not when pg!) that I remember why its worth the effort. So....if he's cute (and you say he is) then re-arrange and at least go for a drink

Lol @ all the naughty 2s! Nicky, Tamara is going through a massive daddy-stage at the moment...I tell myself that its because she sees more of me but I agree it can be upsetting. But then it swings around again, and my 4.5 yo ds is much more conscious of splitting his time between us and tries to be very even in his affections, which is v cute.

JKS, v impressed at H's walking and page turning and yay for no fits . A went into pants at night for the first time when he was about 3.5 but its been a long haul...he'll do between 2-8 weeks totally dry but then once he does wet the bed, he'll do it every night for up to a week...generally we flip him back into pull-ups for a few nights and then ease back into pants each time. And we 'walk' him to the loo around 11pm before we go to bed, too, which does help, I think...

WST...you're amazing, and doing so well dealing with everything at the moment. Its great you can give so much support to the rest of us, but please be gentle with yourself. And triple hurrah for N dealing with the birthday party so well..it sounds like you both had a great time!

Only 2 days of work this week, then off on leave for the rest of half term. Taking the dcs to Woolley Grange for the weekend on Thursday...very excited to have a few nice days away with the family and some proper 'grown up' dinners with dh every night

Hi all

Just got back from appt with solicitor which went well and divorce is ready to be petitioned in court

Have to go back next week and sign...

Solicitor was fab and basically said that I can stop H seeing kids if its in their best interests and if he (H) takes me to court over it, he will lose.

Not made a decision on that yet but glad to know I can stop H seeing them iyswim.

Also my one worry was say I dropped down dead tomorrow (Heaven forbid!!) H would get custody of kids but solicitor said that would never happen

Had both kids for me and somebody entertained J (as I did not want him listening iyswim) and he did colouring in etc.

Filly - the thing is I find it fine to motivate myself to go out with the girls (am out 3 times this wk ) Just not men atm iyswim.

Got busy day as have popped back for kids lunch then out for food shop (boring) and to get J's hair cut.

Hi Ladies,

Good work Simpson - you enjoy a nice easy afternoon after all that. On the dating front, I found that a while 'on the shelf' did me no end of good. Friends couldn't understand why I turned everyone down. They even got to the point of walking up to fit blokes in bars and telling them I was single at which point I stopped going out with those friends too! I just liked being on my own for a while (3 years!) and it turned out I was just waiting for DH anyway as he was the first man I dated after these three years.

Filly, unfortunately, no - it's still the MS though I think I was feeling so rough because I also have a chesty cold and tiredness doesn't help MS.

IWST - how's the back. You spurred me on to call the osteopath, but it turns out, they're on holiday. Appointment in 10 days.

Talking of chesty colds, I'm going to go and lie down while I can. Sabela is coldy too and irritable and clingy. THanksfully, she is sleeping now. Sabela and I did go shopping for boys clothes, but nothing really floats my boat. A friend who is due to give birth very soon has just inherited literally boxes and boxes of boys clothes from two other friends and she says she's sure there is enough for two in there, so I'll just have to wait for that special outfit or two to catch my eye.

Did buy a blanket though. I may give it to Sabela to give to him. Ahhhhh.....

LaT my back is all better thank you x

Had a good day yesterday, posted that on fb and was touched how many people 'liked'' it or commented on it .

Went down to the beautiful village of Bourton on the Water in the Cotswolds yesterday to meet another mn friend, someone I met on the mental health threads who's going through the same thing, time flew we had so much to talk about!!!

Had a nice journey there too as a friend took me there on the way to a day out with his daughters (was lovely not to have to worry about the 1h plus drive)

Because it is half term the physio was here at 9 (normally she works in school and comes at 4pm) so the day is wide open.

Hope everyone is ok x

IWST - what a lovely way to put it, 'the day is wide open'. Glad you had a good day.

LAdies, can I run something past you. It's about my VBAC. I would post a general thread, but there is such a feeling against hospital protocols around VBAC on here that I feel I'll get a response only from people who have already made decisions and got strong feelings around VBAC. So, I'd like to ask you ladies who have given birth easily, not so easily and in any kind of a way what you think.

As I posted before, there will be restrictions on my labour. Many people fight with the imposition of these restrictions, and my initial attitude was to do so too. But now I am wondering, just what effect do you think they would have on labour?

The restrictions are

1. To go to the hospital as soon as labour begins.
2. To be continuously monitored when labour is established.
3. No water birth etc.
4. To labour for only eight hours (although they did say if I was at eight hours and looked likely to be pushing very shortly they'd allow this). Followed by c-section.

I think that's it. So, my questions to you are:
Do you think they would necessarily be awful, or could you live with them? Or would you even like them, if you had a difficult birth previously?

Just a quick 'hello/goodbye' from me as I'm going to be running around in headless-chicken mode tomorrow (getting family ready for long weekend away) and then hurrah going to Bath for a long weekend with dh and the dcs...very excited...!

WST - so glad the visit yesterday was such a success...just stay positive and remember that this will all be over fairly soon (and you're doing the "right" thing, most importantly, for yourself and others)

LaT - yup, I'm going to buck the trend here and admit that after 2 v difficult births I would accept the hospital restrictions as fairly sensible and designed to protect the health of both mother and baby even if (emotionally) I didn't like/agree with them. FWIW, I hated being induced the first time, particularly because everything was so medicalised the whole way through, but I wasn't complaining when ds' delivery turned into a total nightmare and there were 3 consultants on hand all at once, with a whole team of other doctors, to get him out quickly, safely and in one piece. I had a better experience with Tamara, mainly because I did manage to go into labour by myself so felt a bit more psychologically in control, but I still wasted a lot of time/effort/energy labouring on the natural birth ward, in huge amounts of pain, with nothing happening for hours at a time, before agreeing to be transferred to labour ward. Once there, it was actually quite a relief, as they were better able to help control my pain (epidural!) and monitor Tamara, and help her to turn, so that we had a better outcome than with ds's delivery. Overall, my focus this time is to get through the labour/delivery with the minimum of fuss, and focus on getting home with a healthy baby rather than on how I get the baby out, IYSWIM?

Very non-MN hugs to all of you lovely ladies...gingeme, jks and nicky (and mixedmama? sorry, I can't remember if you were there for that one!), I was at the V&A with the dcs and friends for lunch on Sunday and thinking what a lovely afternoon we had hanging out around the green nearly 18 months ago. Doesn't time fly?

Filly - very on your trip, have a good time!!

LaT - I would go with it too if it avoided a CS. Don't know the story of Sabela's birth though sorry

Why will they only let you labour for 8hrs though?? If you are dilating ok, will they let you go longer?

When I had M (easy & v quick) I did not want water birth and just wanted to keep walking about. Will they let you do that or are you hooked up to monitors??

M doing my head in challenging today. Everything is "no don't want it"

She has started the last few days at 6am so suspect she is tired too

Took her to a new toddler group this morning and she was a nightmre biting, pushing other kids etc. I susdpect we will never be asked again

J was very good as always

Am v busy over the next few days as got a new keep fit/street dancing class that is startinmg tonight and then am staying overnight at my mum's tomorrow as we are taking J to London to go on London eye on thursday.