December 2009: for the sake of Auld Lang Sine

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Just thought that I would get this started before the ante-natal thread gets filled up, not that I've had much time to post since I had DS but others might be able to multi-task better than I can!

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hello. had another iffy night with Anna. Trie to put her to bed at 7ish, which is part of the little bed time routine we've started, but then she just would not settle.
i had fed her, changed her, burped her, held her, swaddled her, tucked her in (all of these several times over!!) and she would drift off but then as soon as i put her in her basket, she would scream, and would even be grisling when i was holding her etc. i think wind is a big prob for her as she really guzzles when she feeds and in fact, just before she finally went to sleep, she did a big trump!! I finally got her to sleep at about 1.20am this morning, and after all that she slept through til 7am! I have to admit, terrible though it sounds, i ended up sticking cotton wool in my ears and letting her cry it out for a few mins. the trump seemed to solve the problem! Don't really get why she is so good during the day and then at night will just not settle? is that just the way babies are?!?

Bex - I wonder if its because its too quiet for them at night time ? We are also more aware of how long it takes to settle them as we're wanting to get to sleep ourselves!

1pet - 7 hours - wow! Love the name Regan

DS2 slept well last night, fed at 12am then right down beside me, woke at 3.40am, fed him lying down then off to sleep again until 7.40am. I'm not even trying him in his carrycot at the moment as just know it would be another 4 hours of settling.

We're off to register the birth today and spend some of DS2's being born money on some lovely soft babygrows

i hardly talk to toby in the night..... dont know if that helps ..... daddy gave him a bottle of expresso at 6.45 and he slept till 1.30 when i fed him and then he stirred at 5 but i snuggled him back up.... popped his dummy in and he went till 6 when i got him up to feed him so i wasnt doing it when trying to get dd ready for school. dd was a little bugger and rarely slept day or night so having a ds who sleeps a bit seems wonderful!! all evening feeds are in my bed in quite a quiet atmosphere..... i get set up with a drink and a snack so i am comfy and let him feed for as long as he wants and have a nice cuddle then he goes down..... i then try very hard not to pick him back up but keep snuggling him and shusshing etc.... we have a rocking stand for the moses basket..... was pretty cheap from argos but is great!!!

i hardly talk to toby in the night..... dont know if that helps ..... daddy gave him a bottle of expresso at 6.45 and he slept till 1.30 when i fed him and then he stirred at 5 but i snuggled him back up.... popped his dummy in and he went till 6 when i got him up to feed him so i wasnt doing it when trying to get dd ready for school. dd was a little bugger and rarely slept day or night so having a ds who sleeps a bit seems wonderful!! all evening feeds are in my bed in quite a quiet atmosphere..... i get set up with a drink and a snack so i am comfy and let him feed for as long as he wants and have a nice cuddle then he goes down..... i then try very hard not to pick him back up but keep snuggling him and shusshing etc.... we have a rocking stand for the moses basket..... was pretty cheap from argos but is great!!!

i hardly talk to toby in the night..... dont know if that helps ..... daddy gave him a bottle of expresso at 6.45 and he slept till 1.30 when i fed him and then he stirred at 5 but i snuggled him back up.... popped his dummy in and he went till 6 when i got him up to feed him so i wasnt doing it when trying to get dd ready for school. dd was a little bugger and rarely slept day or night so having a ds who sleeps a bit seems wonderful!! all evening feeds are in my bed in quite a quiet atmosphere..... i get set up with a drink and a snack so i am comfy and let him feed for as long as he wants and have a nice cuddle then he goes down..... i then try very hard not to pick him back up but keep snuggling him and shusshing etc.... we have a rocking stand for the moses basket..... was pretty cheap from argos but is great!!!

oops sorry thought it wsnt working and it had!!!

Thanks for the advice bluesatinsash and sparklycheerymummy. We do try to keep the room quiet and talking to a minimum, light dim etc etc, but think like bluesatinsash maybe hen it is too quiet for her?! who knows, it is a mystery to me!! she has rocking stand for the basket, but it does not seem to have much effect. she is snoring away now in her basket. just think she is still maybe getting o grips with the day time/night time thing...she is only 3.5 weeks old...perhaps i am expecting too much!

i have just had an absolute genius present from my friend. it is a sprogbox (box full of goodies for babies) and includes amongst other things, a 'rock baby' cd, basically lullaby versions of rock songs...how cool is that?! Has cheered me up!

that sounds lovely!!!!!! I do often have the tele on in the background on quiet!!! Ds sleeps in the pram carrycot downstairs during the day but only for convenience rather than anything else!

sparklymummy - for me co-sleeping is dd being next to be in bed. I lie on my side to bf & can generally bf & snooze at the sametime. Hope everyone is ok - best wishes xxx

hello everyone.
Elizabeth was discharged from hospital the day before yesterday, have been getting used to being back at home and getting back into our routine, ie, getting back to total chaos!
She is loads better, still snuffly and has a bit of a cough but otherwise healthy.
I feel like such an idiot though, I thought the purplelike colour round her mouth was due to her colouring, but it turned out she was struggling for bloody oxygen!
Thanks for all your well wishes and I hope everyone else is doing good.
Im going to drink my wine now and try to relax! I shall go through the thread and try to get in the swing of things again!

Glad she's back home ABF - I was getting worried about you both!

Catherine is still not really sleeping. She had a couple of hours this afternoon - thankfully DH and DS were at MIL's building her a snowman so I got to have a nap - but other than that, she's having about 20 minutes at best before waking again!! Usually, it's more like 20 seconds!

She's 3 weeks today - could it be a growth spurt?

DS is having a sleepover at MIL's tonight so at least I don't need to worry about her waking him for one night. Plus, he'll get a bit of 1 to 1 attention which I think he's needing. He's hit DH and me today which is not like him and he's getting very angry and shouting at us a lot

Poor DS - his whole world has changed and I'm not sure he's happy about it.

Snitch. My DS is the same, he absolutely loves his new sister to bits and is so gentle and kind to her but the tantrums have been awful, we live in a flat and he has been refusing to walk up or down the three flights of stairs. He has also been ill so his appetite has gone to pot so trying to get him to eat a proper meal leads to him shouting and screaming, he just seems so much angrier now that Elizabeth is here.
My DH goes back to work on Monday so im hoping that some of his routine will get back to normal.

Good thing is Elizabeth seems to be a sleeper.

Oh thank goodness it's not just my DS!! Iwas beginning to feel like a terrible mother

Angry is definitely the word. We'll ask him to do something and he just glares at us and shouts "I not do it". He keeps throwing himself on the floor in strops too! He's been really gentle with Catherine so far but today he pushed her off his lap when she started crying as he held her! Thankfully, I still had hold of her so she was safe.

My DH goes back to work on Monday too but as I still can't drive for another 3 weeks, our routine isn't going to go back to normal yet. I'm going to be absolutely knackered if Catherine carries on being so restless at night time too. Grumpy DS and tired and grumpy me is not going to lead to a fun 3 weeks at home. Still a bit scared of going out on my own after fainting in Tesco too. It's going to be awful

Evening ladies, very envious of babies who are going 5 hours between feeds on a night ,DS is going 3 hours from start of one feed to start of another, he only takes 20 mins to feed (ff) and usually doesnt take much settling to get back to sleep, though night before last was a nightmare as was taking an hour and a half to settle him as he had trapped wind poor mite, but i only managed bout 3 hours sleep all night. we,ve started a bed time routine, warm bath around 6-6.30 (helps with the colic), then upstairs for a feed in his grobag with only night light on, then i give him a cuddle til hes sleepy, put the monitor on and go downstairs. By the time the next feed is due im normally in bed next to him anyway.
During the day i struggle to get much done unless hes on me in the sling (have a Karri me sling and its fab).

Re putting babies in their own room, DS1 was in his own room at 4 weeks as we had moses basket then and he hated it, he slept much better in his cot. he was sleeping through 7-7 by 10 weeks, not holding out much hope for this little monkey doing the same.

Id forgotten how tiring these early days are but when im winding him after a feed and its stupid o'clock in the morning and hes lifted his head off my shoulder and his giving me his biggest smile,it makes me feel on top of the world

Im envious of all you thinking of putting them in their own rooms, I only have 2 bedrooms and DS is in one of those, so looks like poor Elizabeth has to put up with us for a long while yet! I have made her corner of the room very cosy though so that makes up for it!

ABF - glad she's back home. Hopefully she'll be 100% soon.

GS & ABF - I've got an angry ds1 since ds2s arrival. Having gone back to school this week he's also grumpy because he's tired which is hard to deal with on 3 hours sleep a night.

Not sure I dare mention this for fear of jinxing it but Shay has slept for 5 hours between about 1-6am the last 2 nights. He's been awake pretty much all day the last few days which I think has helped. He was sick after every bottle yesterday which wasn't much fun but seems better so far today.

Hi all!

Glad that you are back home ABF!!

My dd's are little monkeys right now dd1 should have started school today but bloomin snow has seen that go out window! so thats now wed!!

just need some routine back

dh been back at work since ds was week old so used to it now

ds still going 3 hours (3 weeks today) day and night, he has grizzly period in the eves but overall is super and is used to his basket now but i do sometimes have him in with me if he doesnt settle and i feel dead!

need to get sorted and attempt the walk over to the post office, will put ds in sling

oh and thank god i got a phil and teds! dd2 is a bloody nightmare out at the moment

Hi everyone

Adam James arrived on Tuesday 5th at 4.29pm weighing in at 7lb 7. Got home yesterday and so far he's doing well although big sis is not impressed with him. Seems she's rather have a dolly or another cat

Labour went well although the final stage was very quick - even managed to shock the midwife. Waters were broken when I reached 5 cm and he arrived 15 minutes later Small 2nd degree tear but no stitches needed.

Will catch up on everyone elses news later. x

Hi everyone sorry copy+paste job from my other postnatal group!

Thomas and Daniel were born on Jan 2nd at 9:57am and 11:02am weighing 7lbs 3oz and 7lbs 1oz. TOTAL opposite of the breeze I had with Jim (must be karma)) was disastrous, 3 "shots" to kick off induction, dilated v slowly, births were horrible, i haemmorhaged v badly afterwards, nearly croaked and needed a 4 unit blood transfusion, twin 1 (Tom)'s birth was handled utterly shittily, he was born with broken clavicle, bruising and the cord round his chest, then was in NICU for 3. days with hypoglycaemia, on glucose drip an nasal feeding tube Danny was fine but his shoulders got stuck and i came v v close to em. section, everybody has said they are amazed I was allowed that long a gap witout crash section (although I was v much on the cusp but the initial limit I was given was 1/2 hour )

Will update more asap, we are ok now although I feel like shit unsurprisingly, my poor mu isdoing pretty much everything! Babies are ok though which of course is the main thing x

been wondering about you lolijana my god you went through it! i so hope that you are all well! 3 boys now (think you said you had a ds already?)! congrats

Yes, DS1, James, was born on March 1st 09 (so there's 10 months and 1 day between James and Thomas+Daniel, since I went to 40+4 with these two

Ds1 has been playing up a lot to. Been angry and shouting and not wanting to go to school, he's been in tears every morning saying he wants to stay at home with me. I'm going to do I star chart with him this afternoon to see if that motivates him....

Congrats lolianja and littlemonkeys though sorry that you have had such a rough time of it lolianja.

Pleased that Elizabeth is back home with you ABF .

Dd has had a tummy bug this week, ill on Monday and not great on Tuesday but I reallu pushed her to go to nursery on Weds as I could tell that she was getting too used to being at home rather than actually being ill "can I watch Mary Poppins again today?" and "I think he (ds) is crying because he wants his big sister to stay at home with him" . However she has been pretty good, or at least no worse than usual !

Well i can safely say ebony wont be going into her own room for some time yet as she has given me the shock of my life yesterday.

Took her back to doctors as she was still unwell and got told to go straight down to A&E, when i got there they rushed her straight to recess she has broncholitits (however you spell it) is that same as Elizabeth had ABF? currently at hospital, tube fed EBM and in oxygen box.

Expressing as much as i can but cant seem to keep up (and they are not giving her much). Really glad i have quite a bit in the freezer at home. Hope it'll last me until i can feed her again.

congratulations lolianja and littlemonkeys.

DD1 quite likes her new sister but gets jelous of her in the bouncy chair she also refuses to call her anything else but 'that' ie where's that mummy, will name eveyone saying that. find myself saying it sometimes.

damnit and ABF...... toby has been on childrens ward with bronchiolitis too...... though we were let home as oxygen levels were ok and he fed a few times while there. scary though as i took him to docs feeling like an overprotective mum and thinking they would turn me away.was a bit disappointed to find m hospitals policy is only to feed breastfeeding mums.... which i am but surely every mum needs feeding! They were so so so lovely and made me a cup of tea etc! he has slept well till last night when he was choking etc as he coughed.

CONGRATULATIONS TO NEW MUMMIES!!

My dd is not being naughty just dong silly stuff like hurting her leg or coming home from school freezing as she was 'too hot' at school and took her jumper off!!! MInor stuff really but stuff she wouldnt normally do!!!

think ds will go into his room about 12 weeks or sooner if he starts only waking once for a feed..... or sleeping through (heres hoping!!!)