December 2009: for the sake of Auld Lang Sine

[LaDiDaDi]

Just thought that I would get this started before the ante-natal thread gets filled up, not that I've had much time to post since I had DS but others might be able to multi-task better than I can!

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well i have done the deed once was all fine (but i had no stiches) I ont expect to be doing it soon thought i am just so tired, any time both kids are asleep i just want to sleep myself.

Ebony is in her own room and has been for about 3 weeks. i put her up there at 7 then she usually gets up to feed around 12 and 4. For the last 2 nights though she has not settled at 7 so has had a feed at about 9 then only got up once around 2am. Not sure which i prefer i like to have me time early evening but also would love to have to just get up once.

Ebony has learnt to sleep through poppy's noise, she will nap through the day even if poppy is in the same room playing.

I think Elizabeth could go into a cot now, but she wont have her own room She'll be sharing with Jake. So im not sure how im going to go about it. Jake is an excellent sleeper so hopefully once novelty wears off he'll be fine with it.
I think I'll wait until her going through till 6am is the norm rather than a happy suprise.

Catherine did almost 8 hours last night!!

AND DS slept through the whole night without getting up until 6.45!!

So hope its a sign of things to come. Feeling a lot better today.

I am in a similar boat as damnitdamnit. DD has always settled really well at 7 - latest 7.45. Whereas before she woke at about 10pm I was still up so I brought her down for a longer awake feed and change. DH got home from work around that time we stayed up for an hour or two together and she then woke twice before 7am.

Now she's started to sleep until 1-1.30 (from 7pm), and still after that she's still waking at 3ish and 5ish like last night. The 1am feed is a shift to another 'night feed' to me rather than the 10pm which was before I went to sleep so I didn't count it. DH has a new job so most nights now won't be home until after midnight so I think it'll be better for me go to bed much earlier as the 'extra' waking feed is making me more tired.

It's a balance between feeling like I have had some time/night to myself and getting enough sleep!

I don't try to just settle or let her settle herself in the night - she's not crying, just fussing... Am sure sometimes she wakes due to wind etc. and doesn't really need a feed as when she does she takes 10 minutes on the breast then passes out again but as I am awake I might as well feed her. If she were in her room I don't know much I would be disturbed hearing her fussing over the monitor... maybe she would settle herself and only wake properly when she was actually hungry. But for now - as she is feeding in the night so much it's easier to have her in our room... but am I making it worse for myself?

I joined the Facebook group when it was first mentioned then forgot all about it. Will have to have a look.

ds2 went in his cot in his own room at 8 weeks & would have been sooner but we were waiting until after our visitors had been. Trying to get him to nap in his cot which sometimes works & sometimes doesn't.

kingsroadie - we're back on the gaviscon which worked last time so hopefully will this. I knew you could wean reflux babies earlier but wasn't sure when so thanks for that. My hv is a bit chocolate teapotty so no point asking her anything. Fingers crossed you'll see some improvement soon. You seem to be coping really well with everything.

GS - that's great! well done!

Claire - good luck with the gaviscon. Fingers crossed it works again. Yup 17 1/2 weeks - not long to go! You're very sweet to say I am coping well - thank you. I was struggling with the terrible reflux etc at first - had a fair few days ending in tears. Similarly with the hip op - I mainly cried the day after we found out. But now we just have to get one with it as there's nothing we can do - I just hope we get a date fixed soon so that we can have something to work towards.

She has been sleeping so well - 7pm - 10:30/11ish - depends if she wakes up or not - and then from that feed she goes until 7am. Usually then back to sleep until 8:30/9. I am so worried that when she has her cast on she will wake up loads and her bedtime routine won't be the same anyway due to a lack of bath - she loves them.... and also we are supposed to change her nappy regularly even at night to stop her cast getting wet and smelly (even though it is bound to anyway). So I a dreading that as I will be exhausted. Some people said they ddn't do it - perhaps if we change her at 11 and then at 7 again it might be okay - she never poos at night. We'll just have to see but I feel like it's 1 step forward, 2 steps back a bit. especially as she is doing so well!

Anyway, sorry, there's no point moaning - what will be will be! And she is just such a joy at the moment - happy and smiley and well behaved, I just have to enjoy her as much as possible.

Hello all, I'm exhausted. I couldn't get to sleep last night until 1am then ds woke twice before waking up properly at around 6.30. I was trying to doze next to him as he wasn't crying just awake but by 7.15 dd woke up in a grumpy mood. Persuaded her to lie our in bed for a little bit but then dp was getting up for work any way so we all came downstairs. I'm giving up to cbeebies this morning until my caffeine kicks in.

kingsroadie - ds1 had an op when he was nearly 2. We knew he'd need it from when he was only a matter of hours old & it was really hard. With you dealing with that & the reflux problems which are bad enough on their own I'm not surprised you've ended up in tears. I've cried an awful lot since I had ds2 as he is so difficult in every way. He's improving but he really gets me down.

Have just got back from a birthday party which served as a bit of a recce for ds2 as it was the same place as his party next Saturday.

DS2 is in his own room now, has been for past 3 weeks, hes 13 weeks now. Still no sign of him sleeping through the night, he still wakes 3-4 hours for a feed during the day, it doesnt help that he is teething -his bottom two front teeth are coming through, i can actually feel the tips, another couple of days and they will be through. He,ll only feed during the day if i rub Bonjela on his gums first, as the sucking is obviously causing him a lot of discomfort, poor soul.

That should read 'he still wakes for a feed 3-4 hours during the night.

annie - had thought ds2, 13 weeks today, was teething all week & today you can see a tooth. Can't believe he's teething already.

ds was gorgeous all day yesterday then was up and down all night...... i have started my periods so bad i am flooding and feel faint and have just got into bath with my bra on cos i am so tired!

Is it normal for periods to return so soon and so heavily.... ds is 11 weeks and ex bf. he has been sleeping through and i gather this can lead to early periods..... but could it have affected my milk supply.

HELP GUYS I AM IN BITS.... HAD HUGE ROW WITH MY MUM AND JUST BEEN TRYING TO FEED DS WHILE IN TEARS! FEEL LIKE GIVING UP ON BF..... I SUPPOSE MY PERIODS RETURNING MEANS MY HORMONES ARE KICKING BACK IN HENCE MY TEARFULNESS. THIS WAS WHEN DOC SAID I MAY GET DEPRESSED WHEN EITHER PERIODS START OF I STOP BF. [SAD] [SAD]

Hi sparkly,

Sorry that you are feeling so rubbish, I've no idea about the return of periods, mine took ages last time and were affected by me taking Cerazette and still no show this time. Are you on Cerazette or any other pill? Where your periods like this before pregnancy??

What was the row with your mum about?

You are doing a gret job of feeding your ds. If you feel that you can't continue then that's entirely your choice but I would be worried that you might regret it later and then get more down about it iyswim.

Hugs.

LaDi

i am going to persevere with bf cos i do love it..... someone just posted a helpful link on another thread. says milk can temp drop or change taste when having period so its normal but demanding on me!! and baby can be less enthusiastic about feeding. typical though...... he sleeps through and my reward is my period (do we call it an af on here???) dd just got back form ex ps and ds is asleep so am having some quality dd time!! (after typing on here).

thanks lee..... i need hugs.... have just pleaded with dp to be more patient and i have apologised in advance. whenever ds cries i panic as if i am not doing something right. sounds stupid but had set muself the goal of 12 weeks exc bf and thats next sat..... maybe if i get there and am ok will just keep going. if not would one ff a day really matter????? just feel so under pressure with bf and whilst i am loving it i feel like i 'cant' stop or ease off. my idea is to do one ebm feed and one ff a day but then i think why ff when he is ok??? just panicing after last night which was our first really bad night..... even in beginning he was an easy feed wind and sleeper!! being silly arent i???? can i be silly and emotional for one day though????

sparkly - if we're only allowed one silly & emotional day I'm in trouble as I have lots of them. You're definitely allowed one. You're doing brilliantly with the bf & if you want to give the odd bottle of formula then do it just don't make the decision whilst you're all hormonal. I'm currently having a period every 2 weeks & am really at the mercy of my hormones. Just hanging on in there & hoping it gets better soon. Hope you sort things out with your mum.

Very impressed with ds2 last night who slept from 2230-0900. What a little star. He's had a bit of a bad day today though I think because his teeth are hurting him so we'll see what tonight brings.

I think Catherine might have a tummy upset

She's dirtied 5 or 6 nappies today and while most have been normal dark mustard coloured, 2 have been greenish. She usually goes once or twice a day at most. Had been taking Fenugreek to try and up my supply for expressing but have stopped that now. I think either the fenugreek is upsetting her or it's the fact that I was soaking breast pads and one had gone a bit smelly Will have a few days off and hope we go back to normal then maybe try again to rule it out.

Sparkly, you're doing a great job to have gotten this far with breastfeeding - you should be so proud of yourself. The first period is bound to bring along a flood of new hormones and make you wobble a bit. Try to be kind to yourself for a few days while things settle down. As long as you and DS are fed then let everything else slide for a little while. It's taken me a while but I'm beginning to learn now that spending the day in our pj's watching tv when I'm tired and emotional does us all much more good than me trying to pretend I'm supermum! It's made me a lot happier and in turn DS and DD too.

And don't feel bad for writing it down here - we all want to help.

Another hug for you...

Thanks guys.... i just worry when having a bad day that its my PND not just a bad day and then i worry more. need to learn to take it all one day at a time!!!

my mum is a self absorbed heartless unfeeling person who says she cares but never shows it. she never once offered help when i was sick for 30 weeks and told me she was devastated and disappointed at my news of being pregnant. she makes out she is a wonderful grandma but only does anything when it suits and never when it is really needed. every now and then we flare up and recently my cousin has announced she is pregnant..... her circumstances are identical to mine except me and dp live together..... my cousin and her fella dont at the moment...... anyway my mum is delighted for my cousin but wasnt for me..... when i asked my mum why she just said..... your cousin really deserves this baby and has had a hard time. My past is pretty damn tough but my mum isnt interested and of course in my hormonal state i said.... oh and i didnt deserve to be pregnant!!!! grrrrrrr

What was the phrase we were supposed to repeat?

"It does get better, it does get better"

i need to remember that i think!!! LOL

Just realised that Catherine has her first set of jabs today.

I hate taking them for jabs

GS - I hope the jabs went well? Not sure what time your appt is/was.

DD had her first jabs a couple of weeks ago. I cried on the way to the surgery in anticipation. She was in such a happy smiley mood and I was going to do something that scared/hurt her. Irrationality went out the window! She was actually not too bad - unhappy towards the end of the afternoon. The appt was first thing in the morning but have made the next one for the afternoon - I figure less time for her to be upset before a nice bath and bedtime routine. We'll see - the second jabs are on the 15th.

Feel a bit of an idiot posting this next bit... but here goes....

You guys were talking about periods/contraception etc. and it got me thinking yesterday... have been on Cerazette for a month and was wondering when to expect a first period... as i was on the 'week break'. Duh - never been on the mini-pill before, always the other type where you take a packet and then a week break - when I remembered yesterday you DON'T with a mini-pill. So, started a new packet yesterday and we're back to the beginning with regard to contraception plus my system getting into any sort of cycle. DUH. What an wally. Don't know what it'll do to me but had to start a new packet asap.

DD did wake ever hour and a half last night so feel tired and more stupid than normal today. Was wondering if she's starting to teeth too - very drooly and unsettled... can't see anything now - I would have been amazed if she was as it seems very early - but from reading Claire236 and Annie's posts I'll keep a look out.

Just booked ds in for his first jabs, he will be three weeks late because I delayed them with dd habing chickenpox though luckily it seems that he has escaped it.

Found out today that dd got our second choice school for Reception in September. Pretty happy with the school, got a good Ofsted in Jan, but a bit sad for her as most of the other children at her nursery will be going to what was our first choice.