june09 Weaning the babies and shifting the Mummy Tummy!!!

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Here it is, Juners! New thread!!

afternoon all

laura, I copied this: This medicine is used to prevent pregnancy and should not be taken during pregnancy. If you think you could be pregnant while taking this pill you should stop taking it and consult your doctor immediately. However, if the pill fails and you do become pregnant while taking it, there is no evidence to suggest that it will harm the baby. From here. Sorry to hear S is no better, at least you all got a little more sleep, poor thing it can't be nice for her. Would you believe there was a notice on the nursery door yesterday about a confirmed case of chicken pox in one of the children?! I'm not convinced the abs will do E much good, this is the fourth lot, but hugs definitely do

strawberry, so sorry to hear about dhs uncle such young children too.

venetian, dd3 has just discovered dressing up, there's a pink fairy dress at nursery she's getting rather attached to, although one of the boys was wearing it yesterday so I don't think she got the chance. Thinking about it ds1 used to like the pink princess dress dd2 had, I'm sure I took some photos!

hope your all enjoying the weekend, it's lovely and sunny here at the moment! Waves to all

bigcar thanks for the info, think i'll contact my GP on monday if still no sign of period. More ((hugs)) for E lol at ds1 liking the pink dress

Hi all!

Laura, hope S is feeling a bit better, poor wee one. Hope GP can put your mind to rest on Monday about the pill. Glad to hear the PND is getting better

Bigcar, LOL at DS1, does he know/remember? THose pictures are such precious evidence to have! Thanks for the explanation, hope E's ear clears completely soon. So sorry to hear about him needing more ABs, is that related to his asthma? to hear about him making faces and what not to veggie all the time. Ella's kitchen is so handy! Hope things with DD3's school carer improve soon after your meeting. Oh it was your turn for some sun I see over here there were nothing but clouds

Venetian, sorry to hear about DH's auntie

Strawbs, so so sad for those boys so sorry to hear about your DH's uncle. Hope he's holding on OK?

Mrsmc, glad you enjoyed your reading May more days like that come! 9 teeth, well done A!!!

Snow, it may sound odd to others but it's true, I also feel we can talk about some things more easily here sometimes; that we can just let go in a way... How did A find his cheese on toast? M LOVES cheese, you could give her anything with cheese on and she'd eat it, which is not the idea

Hi to all Juners!

Well, it must be the time of the year as we have bad news as well... An auntie of DH's has bone marrow cancer and apparently things don't look good. She's supposed to have two sets of chemo, then some stem cells taken out, another round of chemo to kill her bone marrow and then her stem cells will be inserted again to see if things improve that way. It seems it's going to be really hard but the worse thing is they told her family (DH's mum and sister) she might not even survive the first chemo... DH was quite shaken last night, he might have to travel soon, we don't know yet.

Sorry for the sad post

I have a question for you ladies, does anyone feel pain in their coccyx? Mine hurts -although not all the time- since after birth, which they said was normal but I don't know if it's ok to feel that 7 months-odd later?

Hope you're having a lovely weekend ladies!

Waves!!!

Heya!

mrsmc 9 teeth, wow :D C's got none so far.
glad to hear things are better with dh, maybe that trip was just what was needed.

bigcar I received the form that asks for birth certificate and marriage certificate to allow for records to be dug up, it seems here they charge you depending on how old the records are. It doesn't seem to be asking specifically for maternity notes, just "health records"?. This form says it takes 40 days.
Dh was telling me I should make an appointment with a private doctor who would hopefully have an unbiased opinion and help me decide what birth I should be going for next.
Dh was yesterday again saying he is ready for number 2 and part of me also does not want to wait too long.
At the moment I'm thinking elective cesarean just because it's "known territory" now iyswim. (I have lost all confidence that I can have a natural birth so I just don't see it as an option.) At the moment I'm even dubious that I can conceive again for some reason. Maybe I need counselling gosh and I thought I was over it.
On Friday we had a lovely dinner with friends we had not seen for a long time. They told us they lost a baby at around 11weeks just before xmas

C's calling, gotta go, talk later!!

Yay - I've caught up

Bigcar ? I got my notes from DS?s birth. There were some pretty annoying comments in them like ?Amanda seems a little agitated..? (at them not believing me that the baby was coming NOW and there was no time for a 20 min trace ? guess who was right!) but it made me discover that they converted the kilos to pounds wrong and so DS was never 7lb8 more like 7lb4 so all the time the midwife and HV were telling me he?d lost so much weight when I got him home, it was all nonsense! Hope the notes help you to piece together the goings on that?s a great idea about mixing fruit with veg, why didn?t I think of that? I?ve tried pear & butternut squash and avocado & banana but will need to try some more combinations. Aaliayh does that heaving thing too, too well and is sometimes sick Poor E, hope his chest is much clearer soon, you feel so helpless don?t you? Sorry about the glue ear too, poor mite. Both kids have coughs at the moment and I hate hearing them barking away

So sorry to hear about DH?s uncle Strawberrysam it?s so awful when young kids are left behind too, makes it all so much worse we?ve had two close bereavements in the last week too really makes you realise what is and isn?t important in life doesn?t it? Sounds like Lizzie wakes up after every sleep cycle and can?t get herself back to sleep again. Not sure what to suggest but will have a think. Both my babies always wake up crying though not hysterically. I haven?t worked out why.

Lauraloo ? poor S hope she gets much better soon. I am getting a vibe from you that you do think you are pregnant. Certainly you have lots of possible signs. I have always had implantation bleeding every pregnancy. If I were you I?d leave the pills for a month and give your body a chance to work itself out. I know it is easier said than done but try not to let other people?s thoughts bother you ? my kids are 16 months apart and we got all the ?no TV?? ?can?t you control yourself?? nonsense even from my parents we planned it that way and were delighted to be pregnant again and my DS and DD adore each other. Sorry to hear about your neck, hope the results are good x

Snow ? I knew about your DS1 but I just wanted to say again that I am sorry for your loss and that I feel your pain hon, I like to think that all our lost babies are playing together in a playground in the sky, sounds really naff but it helps me find peace. I wrote a poem for my lost child (we called her Ava ? I wasn?t as far on as you were but she was still my baby). I?d be happy to send it to you if you?d like to read it. What?s a lamington by the way? Loved your comment about not knowing where you will live when you ?grow up? we Skype a lot with DH?s parents too, it makes them feel much closer to us and the kids. How strange that A will sleep all night for your MIL and not for you I do the settling on me thing too ? bad move but it?s about all you can do when you want them to be quiet and you are desperate for sleep.

Gauchita ? sorry to hear about your DH?s aunt all those procedures sound very painful too poor lady I know that it?s quite common to bruise your coccyx during birth and that it can take a long time to heal but have no personal experience. I was also sorry to read that DH?s family made you so upset back in Argentina so Mila is on the move too? I try to exhaust Aaliyah every day so she?ll sleep better but my plan isn?t working how are the nights for you now? Did you take Venitianred?s advice? I hope to go straight from breast milk to cow?s milk too and save 40 euros a month DS won?t drink cow?s milk and still costs us 40 euros a month in formula! LOL at your DH having to forget you have boobs; it?s exactly the same here! We both speak English to DS at home, he hears us speaking Spanish out and about and he understands when he is spoken to in Spanish and has Spanish words and great pronunciation ? kids are amazing aren?t they? Don?t worry about Mila; she?ll be truly bi-lingual. Bet you are excited about your trip to Argentina

June ? sorry to hear about your friends losing their baby, that?s sad hope you and C are feeling much better now maybe you should go and have a chat with the hospital about the birth? Clear things up? I know a friend who did and she felt so much better afterwards.

Ineedmore ? very sorry to hear about your FIL, hope that he is in a much better, pain free place x

Venetianred ? don?t feel self-conscious about sharing your fab advice with us keep it coming. It is a sad fact but it does seem that breast milk doesn?t seem to help with sleeping through the night. When I think back, DS started having a bottle of formula when he was 3 months old before bedtime. Surely there must be a way to boost our breast milk? There?s a lady I know who runs the church mum & toddler group and she has some post grad diploma in breast feeding (really!) and says that beer, oats and lettuce help make good breast milk!! I may try your feeding cut back plan but as you so rightly point out it will take her longer to go back to sleep and I?m not sure I can hold out

Effielou ? I had a cry too when my DH and DS went to Scotland for 5 days, it was fun spending time with my little girl but I did miss the boys! Aaliyah really missed Xavier too, she loves him so much! any more emigration thoughts? I?m thinking of getting a copy of the ?No cry solution? sorry about your grandpa hon lovely that you were able to say goodbye though.

Bunnymother ? hey lovely to see you here I do read your updates and look at your lovely photos on FB thanks for your lovely words for me wow! Delie is desperate to see the world isn?t she? awful birth for your friend made me shiver. My Davina DVD is covered with dust well done to you for being pro-active on the exercise front hope to hear new baby news from you soon

whenskiesaregrey ? we definitely have separation anxiety going on here, Aaliyah always have to have the food source close by that?s a good idea about the toy, to date I have used a muslin. My boys had a lovely time in Scotland thanks and they both seemed to miss us girls how are the christening plans going?

Choccie ? lovely to see you here Elina sounds like a wonderful little girl

Skillbo ? hey there glad work is going well how is Jazzy now? Know nothing about Slapped Cheek sorry!

It?s 12.33 had better go to bed (but for how long!)

afternoon all

laura, how are you and S today?

gauchita, sorry to hear about dhs auntie, fingers crossed she manages the chemo. I think I got that pain after ds1, especially if I'd been sitting on a hard chair for any length of time, used to hurt like hell as I stood up. I went to the gp who said it would go eventually which it did, I just can't for the life of me remember when. Haven't had it since. E has had some cows milk as a drink between meals and seems to like it, we're also trying to avoid buying formula.

june, ahh yes, 40 days! I didn't get asked for any id just time scale and department, oh well guess my hospital won't come top for keeping records confidential then. That's how I felt, like everything was ok but then I realised loosing sleep over it wasn't a good thing. Sorry to hear about your friends, how sad for them.

MrsMcJnr, how frustrating they wrote that it seems few women are believed in these situations [agitated ], with dd1 the midwife didn't believe I was in labour at all, she was born 45 minutes later! I'm now even more curious to read my notes.

I've got my appointment tomorrow afternoon with the midwife/counsellor and am feeling pretty sick about it, she can't make things any worse surely?!

Anybody else got snow today? It's freezing out so have sent dh to collect the dcs from school so I can keep E and his chest in the warm.

waves to all

hiya everyone...gosh mrsmc I forgot how good you were with catching up!

Just a quick update from me, went to docs today who told me to stay off the pill just now and to test on a weekly basis, so will start my testing tomorrow. since that appointment this morning cramping started which feels like aperiod cramp but no bleeding (also had this when first pregnant with S) also over past half hour ive developed breat tenderness so not sure what my body is doing! S is much better today and her first tooth broke thro!!

Best be off S is acting up will catch up with everyone later x

hello ladies, i was on this thread a bit before I had dd then I knd of got behind on the thread etc - but I would like to come on again? dd isn't crawling yet but clearly is v cross about it. ds is nice to her 99%

v interested in the auntie flo talk- haven't had one yet- am bf still though (lots as i love it with ds they didn;t start til 6 months after. anyone else not started? am not using pills or medication.

off to catch up, I recognise some names which is good.

hiya blueberry nice to 'see' you again i was away for a while but have came back...forgot how great it is to talk to people about LO's development

Hey ladies I think I am coming down with a cold, my nose feels all fizzy, just when Aaliyah was getting better too? she has been such a happy soul today

Bigcar ? good luck tomorrow, as you say surely it can only make things better? So we can give them cow?s milk now can we? I thought we could only give it in cooked things

Laura ? congrats to Sarah on that tooth I think you are pregnant and you know it too congrats!! Have you tried www.accessdiagnostic.co.uk/ for cheap pregnancy tests? Ladies ? that site is great for all TTC goodies!

Blueberrysorbet ? welcome back I remember you! I haven?t had an AF yet either. I am still BFing too. With DS I was giving him a bottle of formula at night from 12 weeks and he was sleeping through. I didn?t get an AF as I got pregnant instead but I could tell when DS was 7 months that fertility was returning. I got pregnant with DD 2 weeks after I last fed him.

Quick poll:

Whose babies are still sleeping in their parents? room?
Whose babies are still waking up at least once in the night?

We'll need a new thread soon and I STILL haven't lost the Mummy Tummy

Hiya mrsmc thanks for the link will check that out...orry you're not feeling too good hope it passes quick for you.

S is sleeping in her own room, has been since 13 weeks old, and will wake at least once a night, however all I have to do is put a dummy in her mouth and she's right back to sleep. When she's feeling ok she sleeps from 8.30/9pm until 6.30/7am but will wake for her dummy. How's A at sleeping? I haven't lost mummy tummy as well

Thanks Laura DS used to wake for his dummy but soon got in the habit of finding it himself, he still doesn't let it out of his sight Aaliyah wouldn't take a dummy or get attached to a toy so I am her comforter, not a good situation. I don't want to put her in her own room until she sleeps better (for fear she'll wake DS who is a very light sleeper) but I wonder if part of the problem is seeing and hearing me and wanting to be with me

anytime Sarah wakes and DH or I go in to put in her dummy we avoid eye contact with her as she'll think it's playtime lol does Aaliyah sleep ok in your room or is she up for a while at night time?

bigcar good luck for tomorrow, let us know how it went.

laura I hope you're not getting too stressed with all that testing.

mrsmc C has been sleeping in her own room since she couldn't fit in her moses basket. (probably 3 months old?) I do a bit of co-sleeping (which I love and I never thought I would ever do!!) if she's ill or very unsettled.
It is rare that C will sleep totally through but as Laura's S I can usually just give her a dummy and she will fall asleep again.
I've not lost the mummy tummy at all either.

But we've been looking at nurseries on Friday and one of them seems good so the pla is to take C there early in the morning a couple of days a week, go to the gym and then do some work. dh is very supportive (I am guessing he'd like me to get back into my training too!).

Hey blueberry, I remember your name welcome back :D Is it you who lives in the Middle East? I had never heard of the "auntie flo" expression before! Mine came back about three months ago unfortunately.

hey gauchita I think I have had that coccyx problem that bigcar described in the past, hope it clears up soon xx. How's M's ccrwaling? Have you had to babyproof the house?

Time for dinner , C's got a cold and been very hard to get to sleep. (been trying for 1:30 hours but she kept waking up crying, she seems ok now fingers crossed.)

On the subject of nurseries though I'm already crying at the thought of leaving her there.. (pathetic?)
We left her with one of the carers while we were looking around (still in the same room) then we went to the room next door to have a quick look (2 minutes) and when we came back C saw us and started crying. (blatant separation anxiety).

Someone please tell me to get a grip and that I'm not a horrible mother for considering putting her in nursery!!

Hi all!
Quick phone post

no internet at home all of a sudden since this morning. BT and Sky cannot make up their minds as to who is more incompetent

i've been reading but don't know if i'll remember everything

Bigcar, good luck tomorrow, will be thinking of you. A bit of snow here as well this morning. Hope E's feeling ok, did he start the new round of ABs already? Hope it doesn't bother him too much

mrsmc, massive catch up there hope you feel better soon. I'm such a numpty! You were the perfect person to ask all my multilingual doubts! i'd like to ask you a few questions about how you deal with daily stuff wrt language if you don't mind. Glad to hear things with dh have been better oh, M has been in her room since 3 Jan but if she wakes up loads we end up co sleeping as of 4-5am. She wakes at least twice still.

Laura, glad to hear you've sorted the pill issue. Let us know how the tests go yay on S's first tooth!

Blueberry, hi! Welcome back! I'm naat, just changed my name a few weeks ago. It took me a while to understand the AF term but can report none here yet, still BF. Glad to hear DD is thriving

june, hope your cold has gone now and you're feeling better. Sorry to hear about your friends' baby

Hi to all Juners!

Right, eventful weekend but too long to type on the phone so hopefully i'll be able to tell you properly soon dh's aunt started her chemo but things are hard.

Oh, i tried some formula on the weekend to see if that gave M a longer sleep but she woke up 3hs later so will stick to BF.

Her passport arrived today with her US visa but my surname was spelt wrong! We've been asked to send the consulate an email so we're waiting to see what they say

This has been anything but a quick post i'm going to get some sleep before M wakes

waves!!!!

june i'm going to take Sarah to a nusery tomorrow to get her registered and onto the waiting list. It will be a good thing once C settles as it will let her interact with other babies...well thats what i'm hoping for Sarah lol I need to do it as I go back to work in 3 weeks I have childcare covered until the summer thats when i'd put Sarah into nursery for a few mornings a week

Oh dear, it took me so long to post i x-posted A LOT

June, of course you're not! Those few hours will be good for you both, you'll get work done and go to the gym, for example, and then will have more time to spend with her M is crawling like mad, is getting really fast at it as well so i'm now like a hawk we started moving everything out of reach as she loves cables hope c feels better soon.

Hiya everyone

Sorry for disappearing for a bit again crazy busy at the moment here with organising Christening, viewing nurseries (I think its sad too June ) and organising moving house. Hopefully should be moved in the next month or so, but might have to move into my mums for a bit while we look for a house, which will be strange!!

Bigcar I'm sure your meeting will go just fine, but it's bound to make you anxious. Hope it goes well for you and you get the answers you are looking for.

Lauraloo wow, how exciting will it be if you are pregnant! Ooh, I can't wait to start trying again. You have to let us now as soon as you get the positive test!! Glad S is feeling a bit better. When we went to Church on Sunday there was a 6 week old baby there that was just getting over Chicken Pox

Gauchita I have been tempted to try formula a couple of times too, but I don't know if I can be bothered with all the bottles/ sterilising/ preparation, etc. It would be nice to be able to go out and leave a tin of formula with my mum and not have to think about feeds, etc, but long-term I know I'll be creating more work for myself, so going to try and stick with BF for as long as possible! Its great that M is getting around now, but not so great for you hey!

MrsMc C still sleeps with us in his crib. The idea was that he was to go in his own room when he grew out of his moses basket, but I didn't want to when the time came, and bought a crib off ebay! We will probably put him in his own room when we move. It'l be good to have our own space back again, but I know it will be more work for me actually having to get out of bed each time he wakes up. At the moment, between 9pm and 8am, he will feed twice and earlier in the evening he will probably disturb a couple of times for his dummy.

Hope you are all well. Gotta go, DP is glaring over at me, waiting to watch America's Next Top Model that we have Sky+'d!! He is such a big girl! Speak soon!

Both babies are in their high chairs eating porridge (well sort of) and as it takes so long I thought I jump on (they are objecting though!)

Laura ? yes avoid eye contact at all costs Aaliyah is a real pest at night this is what last night was like (and if was fairly typical): down 8.15, up 9 for a top up back down 9.20 up again at 1am wanting milk, cuddles and a squawk down again with protest at 3am back up again at 5am more milk, nappy change, cuddles then into bed with me until 7am ? more milk and up for the day! Exhausted as usual! Wow 3 weeks before your return to work, sounds like you are super organized with care for Sarah though I am registering my DS for nursery next month. I may send him this September. They start school at 3 yrs here and I want to make sure his Spanish is up to par before he starts.

June ? your nursery/gym plan sounds good that is what my sister does. You have a good memory about Blueberry hope C slept ok, colds are so disruptive! Motherhood makes you feel guilty about everything I think, I am sure C will love nursery.

Gauchita ? hey there ask away on the language front I think Mila and Aaliyah seem to have read the same sleep book wasn?t that baby version of sleep training on FB hilarious?, can?t remember who sent it now (Skillbo?) but it really made me laugh how annoying about the passport being wrong we are sending Aaliyah?s off today. I hope that they get their heads round the Spanish way of doing the surname (i.e. Father?s name first and then mother?s) they should though as it is going to Madrid and they must see lots of birth certificates like hers.

More later, the kids are getting fractious and I am getting covered in food!

A just slept through for the first time in ages!Then had BF and a bottle and we went back to sleep together for another hour!

MrsMac normally up 2-3 times a night. Have had horrible few weeks but getting better again. Moved him into his own room but I am sleeping on sofa bed in there and he often co-sleeps with me from midnight
As to mummy tummy- I am heavier than I was when 38 weeks pregnant, and now on a mission to shift some of the weight.
I would love to read Ava's poem- my email is snowwombat @ yahoo. com thanks for your support, I know you have been there too.
A lamington is a small rectangle of sponge, dipped in chocolate sauce and rolled in coconut- yum! V australian cake!

blueberry nice to see you back!First AF last week, only BF once a day

laura good luck with testing today

gauchita sorry about DHs aunty, does she have good support nearby? Any news with M's visa? How frustrating.

bigcar Thinking of you today, hope the MW very supportive and helpful

laura How was the nursery?Great you don't need it for a little while

june Nursery like a really good idea. I find it v difficult to get any work done with A here. Only go to a post natal exercise class where A can come too.Even if I don't get the job I am currently applying for, I think I will send A somewhere for a day or two.

whenskies things sound crazy busy. Good luck with the house hunt.How was Next top model?my sister is addicted!No sky here, so I can only watch it at her place.What a guilty pleasure that one is!

venetianred How is the snow white costume?
sorry about DH's auntie

juners thank you so very much for your lovely words and hugs. I do find it easier to chat on here at times because I still cry in public almost every time I need to explain about DS1. He was perfect and I am so guilty for not being able to carry him longer. You know how often you are asked 'is he/she your first' and I really don't need to tell everyone that no, in fact A is my second and why. Rambling now, but just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate your thoughts.

A and I off to Wales today for a few days. Hoping the weather lets us get in a few good walks. Poor DH working and doing lots of on-calls

take care

snowwombat have a nice time in Wales- where abouts are you going? I really like Wales, DP and I went last year to Betws-Y-Coed when I was about 29 weeks pregnant, so we didn't do much walking, but we went up Snowdon on the train [cheat]!

Are any of you near Manchester?? They are organising a Manchester Meet Up in 'Meet Ups' (duh!) and it would be so great to meet some of you! Its at the Trafford Centre on the 8th March. Please say some of you could come??

morning all hope everyone is well

well did another test this morning....another negative but not sure if it would have showed anything anyhoo as not FMU. still having the cramping heavy & sore boobs and lower back pain so getting really confused and annoyed now will try and hold off testing till weekend now. What do you guys think??

mrsmcjnr you must be so exhausted with all that waking up I can't function at all the next day if Sarah is up more than 2 times a night you poor thing seems like you're coping well tho

snow glad A slept thro for you, enjoy Wales

gauchita Sarah is the same as M with crawling I can't keep up with her she's now standing upright with aid of toys so not long I think till she tries to walk. She fell and banged her head on my TV unit this morning, her first 'real' big bump and bruise and it's a real sore looking one poor baby

whenskies you sound busy with all the organising and viewing you're doing, hope everything gets sorted soon for you x

HI to all the rest of the juners!

laura I sometimes get the symptoms of pregnancy when my body becomes fertile again - after a few false periods - does that make sense. Three periods after my miscarriage I had all the symptoms of pregnancy, but it seemed it was just back to releasing eggs properly or something like that. I am struggling to remember the finer details.

yes, i live in the middle east, well remembered!

mrsmac, dd is in our room STILL as DS was in his own at 4/5 months! we move this week so I plan to put her in her own room.
she does wake up a lot, and depending how tired i am to bf either co sleeps or back in the cot. if she won't settle I put her in between us with a toy. she isn't a sleeper, just like ds- they both get up at 6 and ds doesn;t nap and dd feel asleep at midday for 20mins! am truly tired. still they are both in bed and asleep for 7.30pm ds wakes up in the night but normally just gets in with us next to dh. he will bring all his teddies though so its a bit of a squash!

re auntie flo- i first heard it on mn! no sign yet, maybe its because I am bf. dd ate lots of solids today so maybe she is planning to slow the bf down

more thread catching up now!