May '09 - We've had our first tooth!!

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Here we are, in honour of baby O and the first tooth through.

That's a dress masquerading as a piece of housewife apparel. My housecoat shall be unevenly padded and nylon and shiny.

Must go to bed. Good night all.

Note the link is 'nusringhomeapparel' or somesuch!

Oh I really must get to bed!

hi all. multitasking with BF, expressed a couple of oz and catching up on MN/FB.

very funny housecoat conversation . i would love to pad around my cold victorian house in the Dandy-type h/coat. would look great with a thick pair of kneehigh woolly socks (better yet, black support socks).

remember my whinge-training post a while ago? well it's not working. we're ignoring but obviously not enough as it's still happening more than a normal level of toddler whinge-iness. could anyone recommend a book on how to tame toddler whingeing?

got a bright pair of dark grey-brown eyes (what colour ARE harper's eyes going to be?) staring at me and some lovely 'ahh. ahh. ahh' singing. hope you're all well.

Morning all!

Well, that was another dreadful night, feel pretty shattered this morning. We were out all afternoon with frineds (picking apples in their orchard, great fun!) but DD1 fell asleep in the car coming home. I'd managed to get her to bed without her getting very cross, and was quite pleased with how smoothly it had gone (she's a nightmare at bed time). Ha ha. She woke at 11.15 and was grumbling until 12.30 so I was in and out to her (she didn't want DH) and then - oh joy! - A woke up at 3 with terrible wind again. She wouldn't sleep in her basket or lying down, so DH and I tooks turn holding her while she slept. She's still asleep now in my bed, and fortunately DD1 is at the CM today, but what a pile of pants. This wind problem is a nightmare, I wish I knew what's causing it. Could it be my diet?

Sorry, mememme bit over now.

Loving the housecoats! The vintage one is far too glam though, hcs are definitely nylon and probably gingham print. Although I do remmeber my nana having one floral one too, but it was really faded and worn out so I can be certain. Kaftans might be more forgiving to post baby bits but perhaps less practical when you're cleaning toilets.

momino - we're having the 'what colour will her eyes be?' conversations too. A's are currently dirty greeny grey, so who knows? DD1's were very bright blue right from the start and haven't changed; A's started off a beautiful almost violet colour but they seem to be changing, I suspect they'll end up dark brown like mine.

I love it when she's feeding - she pulls off, looks up at me and smiles to melt my heart, then bobs back on again [mushy mum emoticon].

dandy - thank you for sharing your story earlier. I wanted to post but couldn't get the words right, other people have said it beautifully.

belgian - for you on your mc, and the timing too. Any mc is terrible, but to happen then, that's so sad. My first mc happened a couple of days after my nephew was born, that was hard for the whole family.

Morning! Not such a good night here. DS not happy with his gums and woke up every 2 hrs. I think I can see where his second tooth might come through (next to his first on the bottom). Guess it could take days or weeks though...

flippin - you're night sounds even worse. O used to get bad wind in the afternoon / evening. It used to be if he fell asleep feeding and I didn't move him to an upright position. I'd try and shift it by jiggling him gently up and down as I winded him or bicycling his legs and if that didn't work I'd give him a dose of Infacol and a quick feed and then try winding again.

Momino - sorry the whinge training isn't helping yet. No experience to advise but I'm sure someone else will have some great advice.

You lot are hilarious, have been giggling about housecoats. It'll be bed jackets next

flipp and ses sorry to hear you had bad nights. No advice to offer re wind except that massage before bed has helped us a bit here. The best one seems to be a gentle rub in an anti-clockwise movement starting from just above A's right hip as she is facing me on the changing mat. She relaxes almost immediately when I do this and it is usually followed by some choice trumping too.

Can't really help with the whinge training either momi have you tried a post in the behaviour section?

Ham was delicious thanks llare DH is v impressed that he got leftovers to put in his sarnies today too.

I've just made an appointment to go and see the head at school to ask about return to work... I am scared! Hope my cheeky 3 day request doesn't go down too badly.

Momino- re whinge training, if my DD is persistently whinging (repeating whinging demands for something) and we've asked her to stop, then it is a "naughty step" offence when we're at home . A bit harsh i know, but it does stop the whinging which is why we do it. Ignoring doesn't usually work for us. I know my DD is older than yours and this whinging is a recent thing for her, so not sure it would have the same effect on your DDs.

Bed Jackets Good Lord. Nice classy £99 verion here

Our winge-training involves an old mobile-phone recycled as the hotline to Rudolph, Father Christmas's chauffeur and confidant.

PMSL at all the housecoat chat and pics. nursinghomeapparel.com WTF?????

llare am going to nick your hotline to Rudolph idea. G E N I U S.

Whinging. Aaaargghhhhh. Its the special whinging tone they adopt that gets me. Is this programmed in them for release at age 2.5yrs onwards??

hi all. I've somehow managed to put H down for a nap at the same time dd2 is nappying at the same time dd1 is watching cbeebies having quiet time. so trying to beat the clock and have lunch, put out the laundry, empty the dishwasher, say hello to you lot etc etc. I'm sure you all can relate .

flippin, your post made me smile at the part of A looking up and smiling at you during feeding. heart-melting.

running, good luck with the request for PT. they should honour your request without any discrimination. right?

llare, at your whinge training mobile phone.

ses, really hope O's gums settle soon but am afraid teething seems to be a long-term ordeal. can't remember if someone's mentioned: have you tried teething powders? it worked for my LO's.

Dandy and others on whingeing: it's mainly dd1 who is 3.5 is a constant whinger and also uses crying as her main form of communication. she always has and i'vetried a few things including ignoring, time out, telling her i can't understand her unless she uses a 'normal' voice (i still tell her that). i know it's important to be consistent but when something doesn't seem to be working then I want to try another method. at the moment, we're trying to use consequences in that if she whinges, we remove her from thesituation (eg to the aughty time out step or go home straight away) or ignore straight away (eg I walk into another room). but i'm not sure that's working. and DH and Grandparents still give in to her shrieking whingeing because they feel badly for her (?). perhaps I should persist anyway.

the bigger problem is that DD2 sees DD1 whinge/cry/tantrum so follows what she does.

I think I will post on the behaviour section or see if there are threads from those with a similar problem.

jennster - bed jackets

Hello everyone. The good news here is that I don't have shingles. Hooray ! Still feeling pants / knackered but apparently it's just a virus. So I've been to Waitrose to buy some yummy food (and ready meals ) to make myself feel better !

G is being a total total cutey at the moment. He's in a baby walker - bad Mummy I know, but lots of wooden floors for him to scoot around. He LOVES it and is scooting around, knocking everything off the shelves and chewing cardboard boxes, and screaming with delight. He's also soooo close to crawling (instead of tummy wriggling), up on all fours and pushing himself forward. I'm going to have to toddler proof my house sooner rather than later.

Re wingetraining, I'm afraid I am really not the right person to ask. DD2 is a prime winger, especially when she wants something to eat. I have a couple of strategies, which are to ignore (doesn't normally work), give in to some things (like offering fruit for something to eat winges). Another way that sometimes works, is to crouch down to her level and ask her straight out what she would like and explain why she can't have it, then ignore any further winges. She also drives me nuts with saying 'I want' all of the blimmin' time !

Llare loving the direct phone line to Santa. Brilliant !

Great news Tummum. Enjoy Waitrose. I DS was very impressed by the handheld scanners in our local store. They kept him amused for ages!

Monimo the other thing we do is the old pasta jar trick. When DS is being happy and jolly and well-behaved, I reward him with a shell pasta for his pasta jar. When he whinges, or does something naughty, I take away one of his pasta shells. Usually the threat of pasta shell removal sorts him out. When if the pasta jar gets full he is getting a special treat, although I do have to give lots of pasta when he is good to prevent an overdraft situation!

I don't know what to do with myself. Both boys are asleep. I feel like I ought to do something other than mumsnet. I'm off out tonight to the (oh the excitement) to the Residents Association Fundraising Committee. At least it is in the pub!

Tummum I'm so glad you've not got shingles. I'll tell you this now you know you haven't got it, but dh had it over Christmas one year and didn't go to work properly until the March. He had it in his eye. He was like a baby. Wouldn't and couldn't eat for the pain, and when he took the painkillers, he couldn't eat because they made him feel so sick.

Tummum I'm so glad you've not got shingles. I'll tell you this now you know you haven't got it, but dh had it over Christmas one year and didn't go to work properly until the March. He had it in his eye. He was like a baby. Wouldn't and couldn't eat for the pain, and when he took the painkillers, he couldn't eat because they made him feel so sick.

Jennster yowch for your DH how horrible for him.

tummum, great news about not having shingles but hope you feel better in any case. jennster, echo tummum's yowch for your dh.

llare, love the pasta idea. does it work? am going to try it straight away.

tum so glad you don't have shingles, must be a relief. Hope you got some lovely comfort food and feel better soon.

Jenn owch!

momi thanks for the good wishes about work. Yes, they should consider it and there is precedent so am keeping my fingers crossed.

Am currently mn'ing and watching dirty dancing while A is a asleep in the sling... who says I'm doing nothing useful with my maternity leave

belgian so sorry to hear about your mc it must have been a tough time and every wedding anniversary too?

lol at the house coat and bed jacket convo

momino i'm lucky ds doesn't whinge unless he's hungry so it's easy to stop him! i am taking note of everyone's suggestions though as you never know when I might need them. LOVE the santa one llare

tummum glad to hear you've not got shingles and enjoy all those yummy waitrose goodies.

had a v looong appointment at the dentist while ds was at pre school. managed to feed G just before being seen and while i was in the chair she fell asleep. Phew! i now have a temp crown and my mouth is coming back to life slowly. shattered though as it meant walking to pre school pushing G in pram with ds on buggy board.. onto dentist then back to get ds and push everyone home.. feed ds, G then myself. washing now finished and G wanting fed again so at least i have an excuse to sit down for a few mins.

OK have caught up a bit- too much to namecheck everyone but couldn't not comment on everything Dandy has been through- what an amazing lady you are

Today I tried to be all yummy mummy (so bored of being a fat, scruffy lump) so straightened hair and managed to burn my neck- I look like I've been branded (insert your own knackered cow type pun here) then Jake was sick down my arm so I smell of eau de milkyvom -nice- tomorrow I'm not bothering, I'm going to stay in my dressing gown all day

tummum - good news about the not-shingles, but get well soon. enjoy the goodies.

sophietom - I stink of milkysick too, A was asleep earlier but woke up when I was ironing. Need to finish ironing so stuck A in the sling on my back and she was sick all down the back of my neck. The problem is she's now gone to sleep on my back and I don't want to wake her, bleurgh.

fi - hope your mouth isn't too painful.

I've just ordered a cot for A, she's nearly grown out of the moses basket now and keeps waking herself up hitting the sides. She's growing up but . It occurred to me that she might be my last baby...I really don't want her to be and fully intend to try again at some point in the future (if can ever be bothered to do the deed again) but what if for some reason we don't have another child? I love nbs. I can feel my ovaries twitching at the thought of tiny tiny babies, that smell. Somebody slap me, quick.