April 2009 - Chapter 6 - The one where Nutty reappears and the babies eat FOOD!

[Swaliswan]

I hope that this will do you all as the last thread ran out.

Let the fun and chocolate eating commence...

Good morning. How can I have hayfever at this time of year??? Anyone else?

Bebe, yes have passport photo taken somewhere like Snappy Snaps. Then use check&send service (most big post offices do it) so you get the passport back asap. I assume Moo is going to have a British pp?

BB lots of hot water with lemon and honey. x

link to tune tho when I linked to to my family they had trouble with it so not sure if it'll work

I've been checking ebay for the mobile I've got it on my saved searches now too hoping something comes up (fingers crossed). I've only come across one instance where someone in Aussie mentioned it! But the music box was not with the mobile she was selling.
I was thinking of calling 'parts' and seeing if by chance they'd still have a 'spare' for my 'broken' one. Very bad of me I know but I'll only use it as a last resort... I've also thought I could take her around mamas and papas and play their display models as she if she likes any of those. It's very likely it not just the tune but the toys moving which she also enjoys... (tho when I was loading the tune on fb and played it she stopped reading her book on the couch beside me and started smiling and laughing)

She will have a british passport as it's just plain easier that way right now. She can be dual later if she wants.

Bebe what a cute video. Sorry don't recognise the tune though. Can you not record it for her on an ipod? And yes why not phone M&P and explain, they might be able to help.

Morning all

BB - you poor thing... not easy looking after little ones when you're feeling rough yourself. I second Feira's hot honey and lemon.

Bebe - I can't play the link to the video... it keeps telling me to download flash player and when I do it still won't play. Erk.

Nutty - aha, I get it now. Sorry for being thick (baby brain of fluff). So where is this Dr Love based? Just interested to know as my DH works for a big hospital.

Puzzle - hope you got some good sleep last night.

My little boy slept all the way through last night - 7pm til 7am - I really can't believe it. The pick up put down perservence and refusal to feed after midnight really paid off while we were on hols. I'm sure we're not out of the woods yet as a good night always seems to be followed by a few bad nights but we're definitely heading in the right direction. I woke up at 5am and couldn't get back to sleep which was highly irritating - but I still feel like a new woman this morning... I've got banana bread baking in the oven already (doesn't count as cake as its called bread) and I'm going for another run tonight... hurrah hurrah... and the sun is shining

Bicnod it's so good he slept all the way through It really is nice when it happens

My sister warned my last night that they go through a tough patch at abt 9 months where they wake up again in the night because they suddenly start realising they are alone and are not actually a part of you... She said with her first she was very strict and just let her be and it was tough, but with the twins she would go to them and rock them and give them a cuddle and they went back to sleep much quicker

I went with latter idea with Moo last night. First time I feed her too, but in the end I just rocked her a bit and set her back down. She did not seem particularly in pain or anything (despite being up every 1.5 hrs or so) and she's sleep again now. I ought to be too because I'm feeling shattered but it's just too hard to get back to sleep during the 'day.'

Oh bebe - you poor thing

I'm sure the sleep thing doesn't sort itself properly until they are toddlers... my sister still has trouble with her youngest waking up at he's 2 1/2

I agree with your sister's second approach... if Oscar wakes up and beetles (i.e. doesn't cry but does a bit of chatting, leg wumping and mithering) we let him be and hopefully he'll go back to sleep on his own (as soon as he finds his thumb), but if he cries we pick him up and cuddle him until he stops - then we put him back down again. I can't leave him to cry on his own for more than about 10 seconds... wussy mummy.

Even if she doesn't seem particularly in pain she might still be teething - with Oscar his teeth started bothering him at a low level way before they even appeared under the gum. It might just be a little dull niggle that means she can't settle. Did you try calpol? If it works it means they were uncomfortable so worth a try...

It really is hard sleeping during the day - I can't do it anymore either unless its late afternoon.

Go and put your feet up and have a cup of tea and something to eat and just take it very easy today.

Sending big hugs and sleepy vibes to Moo for tonight x x

Thanks

I'm trying to tidy the house really quick now and that way as I get more and more tired during the day I can just let it go without it ending up being a complete tip when Moo's daddy comes home this evening

But I keep forgetting to eat brekkie...it's currently cooling in the microwave...must go eat now

It's a good idea recording the song on the Ipod/computer and making an mp3 for it...that way it'd play longer than the min or so it plays now...means I might not have to go in there as much to re wind it. Might be a blessing in disguise

I know nutty! I feel a real fool in some ways. but it's one of those things isn't it that I'm sure we all find ourselves doing to a certain degree... you know your lo likes a certain something, and them liking it makes your life happier, and so you're the one that gets obsessive getting it for them...silly being a mom sometimes doing things you'd never have done a million years ago.

LOL Nutty - I think the term BLW now refers to specifically NOT feeding your child with a spoon and letting them take it with their hands and put it in their mouth but agree with you that ALL weaning is essentially baby-led, case in point, K did not want banana flavoured cereal yesterday morning so proceeded to blow rasberries with it in his mouth spraying me and the floor in the stuff (thank you to my sister for teaching him rasberries!!!) my mum always says that we were fed with a spoon but also BLW'd - but in those days it didn't have a posh name! K does both - bit that's mainly because everything in his hand goes in his mouth! at the moment his favourite thing is my computer wire! hmmm.

Indeed Nutts, mostly it's an old concept but now has a name! But there is also more theory behind it, like not weaning until they are developmentally ready, so there is no need to do the stage 1/2/3 puree/ lumpy puree etc stuff, changes in how far back on the tongue the gag reflex is triggered as they get older and so on. WFH would explain better. You're right about the spoon thing - in essence you just avoid the bit where you are spooning the puree in and go straight to the bit where they grab the spoon themselves.

Quick question - when does all this over-emotional stuff stop! I just burst into tears when when my parents left for their holiday! LOSER!!

Angus is not on solids yet, although he had a good suck of a peach this morning, but Struan has taken to feeding him fake food off a spoon and he loves it - chews afterwards and everything so they are in their own little fake food world.

Conker how cute!

BB I know...I broke down in tears because I didn't have the stroller the other day and I was in Winsor so there was no going back for it. I thought you pathetic woman, in tears for not having the stroller. And then when I felt the woman in the next car looked at me crossed eyed while I sat in my car trying to get myself back together I burst out in tears again.

I can definitely relate to the over emotional stuff... whenever there's an advert for baby food on the telly I feel myself welling up

I'm going down the puree route with O at the moment, but he grabs the spoon so I kind of help him get it in his mouth the right way round and then into the bowl to get the next mouthful. He's started banging his fist on the highchair table to signal he's ready for the next mouthful. Or just sitting there with his mouth open... very cute.

I'm going to do finger foods once I've done the first aid course as I'm paranoid about choking now that DH has put it in my head.

conker - that is so cute

Bebe - I've just worked out how to download flash and have watched your mobile clip. The tune is VERY similar to the one on Oscar's mobile which is a mama's and papa's one... definitely worth going into a mama's and papa's store and playing their mobiles to see if one has the same tune.

Right, a quick should-be-prepping-dinner-while-I-can catchup. Apologies if I miss you - am doing everything too fast these days and not doing anythign properly

Auld & BB get well soon

Gui yay for weight gain. I have to say, being in the puree camp and having put massive whomping great amounts on E by weaning, your HV isn't completely talking out of her nether regions. Yes, solids aren't as calorific as breastmilk (but avocado comes close, as does mango puree with loads of baby rice tipped into it) but IME the baby can take them as extras and still tuck into just as much breastmilk, particularly if you don't offer water for the first bit of weaning. E can certainly have a full feed, a massive amount of solids and then he's thirsty so I give him another feed. The change in taste keeps them going longer, and the change in consistency probably slows down the digestive transit time too which might help in itself.

Nutty - How annoying and incompetent of your consultants. Hope you get to kick some ass soon. You picked me up on the homework point. I'm not anti homework per se, but for this particular little girl it was totally not appropriate for the first term of reception (when I went to school there was no homework in primary schools at all by LEA fiat, so it's definitely not essential)

Bicnod - impressed by your health and fitness drive (and too)

Conker - I never get caught up either. Am hopelessly behind with everything and pickled in guilt

Puzzle - how is E today?

Bebe - that is a lovely tune. I am so with you on trying to find the exact replacement. I think it is nice to try to do things like that for our kids. (Though we shouldn't stress if it's not possible)

Sleep training - I am a complete wuss with mine and they don't sleep at all. But I was a terrible sleeper as a child and I have vivid memories of thinking what a naughty child I was because I couldn't sleep. I wouldn't want ever to make my boys feel like that, as they seem to have inherited my non-sleeping genes and IMO they can't completely help it.

Right. Off to tackle the romanesco out of our veg box. Ugly bugger it is too, so curry is the only way forward.

Hey MrsG - I know HV is not talking total bottomese. It's just the fact that the info they give is so routine. She told me nothing that I couldn't have got from the most bog-standard weaning leaflet. What I would like from a HCP is exactly what you've said there - 'Right, you've got a small baby who needs extra calories, so try avocado/ mango/ lumps of butter dipped in sugar'. But what she said to me sounded like exactly the same advice she'd give to someone weaning at 17 weeks/ someone whose baby is above the 99th 'centile/ someone who has been having problems with reflux etc. To be fair, it must have been rather obvious that I was not really paying much attention to what she was saying Had I asked more questions/ seemed concerned then I imagine I might have got more info. But should one have to ask? Or am I just expecting too much to get advice tailored to my baby?

Saw a few of my NCT ladies today - of the six babies in our group, there is wee Hugo down below the 0.4 line, one big bruiser up above the 99th, who is already on 3 meals a day, two babies who have been losing weight and one who hasn't put any on for 5 weeks. As a group, we are really not doing well at conforming to those curves!

Very fond of the phrase 'pickled in guilt', though my sentence for that is at least 100g G&B or equivalent, plus a slice of chocolate cake. Daily. Until you are no longer pickled.

I think romanescos (? correct plural) are fascinating, almost fractal! Though when I first came across one in our veg box many years ago, I had not the foggiest what it was! You can get a romanesco-shaped lamp, from Habitat I think. Quite funky.

I never had homework at primary school!

After Swali mentioned it, I had a look at couch to 5k, and thought 'I could do that'. However, I'm really not sure I could get over my fear of being seen jogging in public. I'd have to run in the dark, I think, and that seems unwise. I go sooooooooooooo red in the face when exercising, like this --> Plus I'd need a new sports bra...(excuses, excuses).