May 2007 - I beg of you... Come out, come out wherever you are Scoot.

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We needed a new thread. It took blardy ages to load.

Now where are you Scoot?

Nous nous is used for the reflexive iirc.

You came back for the gingerbread didn't you? Thanks, but what does that mean? god I should have payed attention at school! I need simple terms, I am simple!

Reflexive in English is myself, himself etc. In French it's me, te, se etc. So doing something to yourself like Je m'appelle or je me lave for example. I call myself, I wash myself. This is stuff I'm trying to dredge up from about 10 years ago so you might want to wait for TMAM.

I'm not really here. Just come back to c+p some info, links etc before deregistering and losing the info forever.

Yes it is a reflexive. In this sense it means 'each other' so when we passed each other is what she means. You can turn any verb into a reflexive for this purpose, so 'quand on se voit' means 'when we see each other'. Bravo ma cherie you are really doing brilliantly and yes the ' les' applies to 'les filles'.

Ahhhh I seeee, thank you! both of you! I get it now, I may even try to remember to use it.

Why soh? whats happened? you sounded like you were having such fun yesterday here? Don't de register, whats the point? just stay here with us where we are all lovely, or is it here the problem? Will you be back?

I think it's just a break tbh.

You know when you get to the point where you've started to annoy yourself with something and you know it's that unhealthy that you want to escape your own whining?

I can't bang on about it on here. It's not fair to any of you and it makes little sense to me most of the time. I'm very cross with myself because I am not a malicious person and don't like to feel negatively towards people over something that is the product of luck and circumstance.

I had a bad experience. I'm not in a great place about it. I haven't moved on from it and it's making me poorly. I've started having panic attacks and all over something as ridiculous as M's birth. MN isn't the place for me right now, not when stories of pregnancy make me physically shake, tales of births make me sob with guilt. And I'm married to a man who is aching for another baby. It's not healthy and the best thing for me is to take a step back from all of it and find a way of dealing with it.

I feel pathetic and young and trapped and I'm sick of annoying people on here. It's all just words on a screen but I've been having such a visceral reaction to it all that I've realised it's time.

I love you all and will miss you and hopefully it won't be long. I want to finish my book because I want to feel like I've achieved something good and I want to dedicate myself to something I have control over.

This feels a lot like navel gazing and trust me, my navel isn't pretty.

Be good. Be kind.

I'll be back.

Possibly as state governor of California.

However, I think you are right. Even after all these years and 3 babies later, I feel quite sad, guilty and jealous of some of the birth stories, I stumble upon on here. I can put it behind me, but for you with the future of another baby (hopefully) in front of you, it must be hard to avoid the stories and the analysis.

There are other ways to stay in touch, we are all here for you at any time you may need us. Just remember that you are a wonderful mother to M and take solace in your strong and unique marriage.

Wishing you lots of happy writing. And no stories about spoilt gin sozzled expat mothers getting jiggy with the hired hand please.

I am always on the other end of an email address.

Missing you already.

Ahh sweet, that broke my heart. However a girl must do what a girl must do, if you feel it will help then go for it. I'm happy you felt able to explain a little to us (of course not that you need to) but it's horrible when people just dissapear.

Take care pleeeeease, enjoy finishing your book and continue to be the fab Mummy you are to that Gorgeous tank!

As cam said we are around in other ways if you fancy a natter. If you bloody shared your skype details from my request then we could gossip natter there every so often!

So long, farewell and rock on!

SOH my sweet I understand but please dont disappear from us forever you have been a rock to all of us at some point and have written some hilarious, sentimental and intelligent words. There has also been some quite bonkers words. Please come back to us when you are ready and as the others have said we are still here for you whenever. Plus its not all that far from you to me so if you fancy a natter or a trip to dinosaur land I'm your gal. Take care lovey.

Nooooo SOH - you have had such kind words for me recently and I am crap at putting down feelings but be good to yourself and come back soon x

Hi all

I am very sad about SOH leaving but i understand why. I will miss her terribly on here, she makes us laugh so much

I want her to have more Tanks so am hoping she can get her head round it all. I am going to confiscate her notes i think. Must get up there for a visit.

I am very pleased to have dh home for another 2 weeks. I need him atm. Am doing ok with him around.

How is the potty training going everyone?

SOH - Be kind to yourself xx You are a fantastic woman and a wonderful mum. You have an amazing way with words and have probably helped everyone on this thread at some point. I'm so sorry we can't "fix" things for you but hope you're able to banish the demons in due course. Good luck with the writing and your lovely family. Hope you're back soon

Sorry to see that you are leaving/have left us SOH. I hope that you are able to come back and see us all again soon xx

Just a quick visit to say that all is going well in Meadow Towers and Lucy has fitted in really well. She is feeding and sleeping brilliantly and is still only waking twice a night at about 1&4am. She is being weighed again tomorrow and i think she may be back up to her birth weight by now. Jack & Ella are still in love with her and just want to cuddle and kiss her which is lovely.

LG&T, so excited about seeing you all on Sunday at Brands Hatch. Fingers crossed we get good weather and some good results for Martyn & Paul!!

MrsJB how are you doing? Are you still having fun with the girls home? Received your parcel about 30mins after i spoke to you!! Its gorgeous thank you - TY note is in the post

JAM, did you do another test or has af arrived??????????? How have you coped without the car?

Tilly or CM would either of you be interested in my half used bottle of raspberry leaf tablets?

Pink, will send you those bits i mentioned this week x

How is potty training going Sky?

TMAM have you managed to evict your infestation?

Off to bed for me as Lucy will be waking in the next 30mins or so.

xx

Hi AM - glad to hear things are going well. Lucy sounds like a little star

I would love your raspberry leaf tabs (providing CM doesn't want them ?). I think I have some left from last time but just noticed they are out of date. I am very keen for this one to be out on time - my SPD is getting unbearable and I can barely walk some days I'm not sure I can cope with another 12 weeks of this, especially if I keep growing at the same rate

Hope everyone else is ok xx

Lovely, I will get those in the post to you - actually i will need your address!! I will FB you for you

AM - And I will send Lucy's gift

Tils - are we all sorted for 1st November? So excited.

SOH - you are a wonderful person and a great mum. You should do whatever you need to in order to try and put the past behind you. You put so much pressure on yourself though, don't forget I'm an only, and I'm not mad all the time. Tils is an only too, but I think she is a bit mad. Will miss you.

Sorry I have been AWOL ladies, I am always lurking, but have no news to share! Spent the day with suwoo yesterday and her 8wk old ds2. A was about half an inch away from his face the entire time we were there. I think she is going to be very, erm, helpful.

Hope everyone is OK. AM, I will ring you later.

Thanks AM - I'm struggling to get on to FB at the moment, but will email later.

PJ - how very dare you ?! Just waiting for CM to confirm 1st Nov is ok for her and then I'll book it. Will mail later when FB is back

Anyone else want to join us ? Spa Day, Chester, 1st November ?

Well done little Lucy! You are all doing brilliantly.

Tils, sorry about the SPD, did you have it bad first time round? It knocked me for six with J. Poor you.

MrsJB just keeps on dancing and dancing and dancing....

How lovely to see you Pink, we miss you. A will make a super big sister, I have no doubt.

Charley, how is dd now at school? Tell dh the knee is holding up just fine, I've managed 15 miles this week. I'm aiming for the Nairobi half on Oct 25th. I don't want to let him down, so I'm preparing already for next June.

Sky, how are you holding up? When are starting with the CM stuff?

I'm so glad Gin woman, that dh is still there. How is the terrible toddler? I hope you don't have too much on your plate just now.

All is well here, I am infested with parasites and have mental stomach cramps but I am determined to keep running J is turning into the toddler with total attitude and massive separation anxiety. However he is doing brilliantly with his potty training, all wees are in the toilet, poops still in the pants though

Infestation sounds nasty TMAM. Glad the knee is holding out for you.

Lucy is indeed back upto and over her birth weight! She gained 200g in 5 days and now weighs in at 8lbs 2oz at 10 days old

Thanks for your address Tilly, will pop the tablets in the post this week.

MrsJB, how goes it? How is the cupboard holding out?

Where is everyone ??! Obviously, we know what Ginlady is doing

AM - glad Lucy is doing so well. Little milk monster

TMAM - I didn't really get any problems with Tils - a few aches and pains towards the end but nothing out of the ordinary. I think her being almost 10lb has knackered my pelvis this time around though. I've been getting gradually worse the last few weeks. Just started wearing a support belt - very sexy !

Sounds like potty training is going well. We are starting tomorrow (have been postponing due to Tils being groggy with cold and us having no bathroom). I am dreading it. She just drinks so much and wees all the time.

Don't dread it Tills, be methodical about it, so every half an hour take her to the toilet/potty. Again before she eats and again after she eats. Do put on pants. Don't yell if there are accidents, just get her to repeat after you, 'where do we do wee wees? On the floor? No! In the toilet/potty yes!!'. I swear it won't take long.

Sounds delightful, the support belt! It's so hard to imagine you with 10lb babies when you are so slight. Isn't it funny, nature?!

It rained last night I was so delighted I had to phone a friend. Now just watch it rain really hard for half term, when we are at the beach.

I'm still here.

Bloody nora Lucy's gift am pants will post soon. Lovley to hear things are going well AM the photos are fab.

Sorry did someone mention potty training still not bothering here yet am going to give it a bash during half term but if its a disaster will try again in the new year.

Tilly poor you its awful I dint get SPD with Archie but had it horribly with Shmoks.

So no need to test again ladies after thinking the blob was coming last month and nothing but a wee bit of spotting it arrived with a vengence this week. First time since Aug 2006 how bonkers is that?

TMAM hows the tummy?

Bit of crappy news here my DSIS has been over visiting and while here went to see her gynea who gave her a check up unfortunatly it looks like the cancer may be back and the cells that were pre cancerous have multiplied and its not looking too good. She is being very optimistic and will not even contemplate anything bad until she gets the final results next week. So girls a bit of good vibes need to be sent her way.

Oh Jam, got to wait for those results, sending mega positive vibes for your DSIS. crossing all the bits I can cross for you.

Will be back later for catching up. Having to work hard at work at the mo as fitting in school run.

Sending your DSIS massive positive vibes JAM xxx

I'm here too....

AM, glad you liked Lucy little pressie, can you touch it though? I could send you some tweezers to help SORRY

Jam, massive pos vibes for you DSIS here from sunny France.

Very manic here, H & M both poorly, got the throat and cough and temp and aches Calpol to the rescue.

TMAM hope you are feeling better. Thanks for you help the other day, all was resolved and Sylvie took it all on the chin, explained her reasons and told her to Jog on in not so many words... Although last night she confided that it had hurt her a little. I do just keep dancing and dancing you are right. God I love it and last night Sylvie asked me if I minded help teaching the 1st & 2nd year classes. I miss teaching soooo much so will be great to get back into it and good for my french too. Although a little scary..

Parents return today, have had a lovely 10 days as a family of 5 but I could do with Mum home the ironing pile is huge. lol

Right lunch... laters xx