Dec 08 it's time for sippy, tippy and doidy cups (& wee sticks!?!)

[Veggiemummy]

sorry could think of much and these where discuss on last page.

Well good for mr daisyD !
Sorry you are a bit broken though daisyd!

arti. That's hilarious (aorry - I guess it was not so funny for you!) about your dh! It made me think of the Winnie the Pooh story where Pooh gets stuck in Rabbit's hole because he eats so much honey He must have been so embarrassed in A+E. Can I ask...why did he have his hand in the jar in the first place?!!!

Daisy sorry your knee is misbehaving. Sounds like you could do with going to bed and resting it rather than playing nurse maid to your wounded soldier! Maybe you should both snuggle on the bed with some wine, choccies and painkillers!

Last night went well - P woke about 6 times but each time she went back to sleep after less than 5 mins of dh patting, so she actually managed the whole night without milk. We're going to try the same tonight - hopefully she'll decide that it's not worth waking up just to be patted by daddy! My right boob was agony though this morning and I was desperate to feed her to relieve the massive lumps! Poor girl drank so much (I kept putting her back on to drink more!) that she was then sick

This evening I have burnt my arm on the iron. doh. Sudocrem to the rescue! Proof that I've done my ironing though!

Right. Must go because my library book is due back tomorrow and I've not finished it yet!

Another day, another tooth ? they just keep on coming! And bless DD, again it just slid smoothly out without any difficulty. I am very nervous about the next ones now ? will they cause twice as much pain for her?

Arti I laughed til I cried at your DH and the jam jar . My DH is much the same so I laughed rather than crying, as it will only be a matter of time before I report a similar incident. Did he get the jar off? I hope the swelling went down quickly. Was it your DH who superglued something large to himself just before DD2 was born? I remember laughing heartily at that incident too

Hope you kept some food down today Spiggy? JJ yay for the NCSS . And Trace, did you get a whole nights sleep, without having to move from your bed once? Well done both S and P

Maybe DD is sleeping off a hangover Kiwi . I?m glad she enjoyed the swimming, my DD does too ? and I love the extra long naps we get afterwards

Daisy how dare you even think about your knee, after the horrors that your DH has gone through today?! I hope you get some decent pain killers tomorrow ? and be careful that you don?t over compensate and end up straining your other knee too

Summer I think Spot is on holiday this week. Can?t offer any new suggestions on the insomnia I?m afraid (although I?m tempted to suggest your DH tries shushing and patting )

I took 5 books out, from the library van today ? don?t have a clue why as I?ll be renewing them all til Christmas, but its nice to dream. Got 4 touchy feely ones for DD, and we?ve already read them all, twice

Night everyone, sleep well babies

zoe I'm afraid I lay awake listening to every subtle change in the volume/intensity/nature of her cries at every waking - but it was lovely to be able to stay in my bed while dh got up. I do actually feel more rested, even thought I got very little sleep! Perhaps just the fact that no-one was drinking away my energy through the night! Not a peep so far tonight...

zoe PMSL at the shh, pat advice. One night he did give me nice hugs and I did go to sleep eventually.

It sounds like you are making real progress with P's sleep Trace. I am so pleased for you. I hope tonight is even better.

Daisy - sorry to hear about your knees and lol at your wounded soldier. How long does he have to wait until testing his newly adapted apparatus?

Summer I have been struggling to get to sleep too. I have to admit that it might partly be due to the G&B chocolate I like to indulge in before bed. I also make the mistake of exercising just before retiring. However, even when I avoid chocolate and exercise it can be hard. A hot bath often helps. As does making DH's night (IYSWIM).

Thanks for all asking after DH's hand. It is fine. Hopefully he will have learnt a lesson not to be so greedy and accept that a little jam will be lost at the bottom of the jar and it is not sensible to try and scoop it out with ones fingers. As Zoe remembered DH has a history of such idiocy, when I was overdue with DD2 there was an unfortunate incident with superglue, a step-ladder and his right hand.

Oh arti I am laughing even more now

zoe DH read my post over my shoulder and he says he will shh pat me any time. I think I may test him...3 times a night for the next week....ha, see what he says then!

arti yes action is a good idea! especially if it makes my night too, rather that just his (IYSWIM). May try that, though I struggle to be in the mood enough these days...boo.

Arti, your poor DH! And he is getting such a reputation on here I had forgotten about the super glue...I also thought Winnie the Pooh but Trace beat me to it. Thank you for the counterpoint to the Zoe Ball pregnancy story. Perhaps I will be lucky again . How was your swim? Golly! I am picturing DD2 parked in the reeds in her buggy whilst you and DD1 swim past Coke cans in the chilly water! (Can't you tell I haven't ever swum there). Any news from C about her baby yet?

ZJ, loved the Sarah Beeny goss. And you can't beat a bit of cleavage. It has been my stock in trade for years. As for the teeth, apparently it's only the first couple that hurt them anyway, so if her first two have been painless that shouldn't change. But this was in a BOOK so as our resident statistician you will know it stands about a 5% chance of being true...

SL - getting off to sleep is a toughie for me too. Never really cracked it, though a shower or bath and a book helps...But something absorbing so you read and read until your eyes ache. So maybe not Ulysses then...

Spiggy - sorry you have been poorly. But jealous of the effect...

JJ - I just don't GET the love of Kevin Thing from Grand Designs his charms elude me, much like G&B chocolate (never had it, but not keen on chocolate, so...)

If anyone watched LLL tonight, I was disappointed that the annoying couple got sorted so quickly as I was hoping for more comic mileage out of those two

DaisyD and Kayz - hope the knee and the head are much better in the morn!

How can it be Thursday tomorrow? I haven't done enough!

Kids programmes - I did love Grange Hill, The Book Tower, and adaptations of E Nesbit stuff like The Enchanted Castle and The Wouldbegoods (still love the name Oswald, but sadly Oswald Moseley has queered the pitch there). And The Muppets, Worzel Gummidge and Robin of Sherwood (the Michael Praed one). Mmmmm.

Good evening.
I see I missed LLL tonight - I do love it and will have to tape it in future. With work on Wednesdays and picking DS up afterwards, I get home at 10pm.

Arti - your poor DH to have to go to A&E at that hour. Hopefully he was seen quite quickly. It did make me giggle though!

Spiggy - hope you are feeling better.
I've nearly got rid of this horrible cold but poor DS has well and truly got it now and is full of snot!

Feeling very nostalgic with the mention of all these childrens programmes - have never seen the Box of Delights but DH was given it on DVD a few years ago and we have yet to watch it - may do that soon.

Can also sympathize(sp?) with not sleeping. DH got DS to sleep last night and when I went to bed I lay there for 2 hours wide awake and when I just started to drift off - DS woke again.
DS has two teeth which didn't give him too much trouble and look cute - miss that gummy smile though! My mum had bought him some lovely chunks of exotic fruit for dinner tonight but he looked unimpressed when we all sat down with our chicken stew! Last night I made DH and I chilli and in a smaller pan made the same for DS without chillies - he loved it and loves rice as well which he picks up in big handfuls.

Trace - I've been reading bits of your posts to DH and we may start those tactics soon as DH is encouraged by your progress and success. Hope your burn is ok.

Hello Kiwi.

Well done Mr Daisy on the op. Hope you get that appt for your knee tomorrow Daisy (except it now is tomorrow - bedtime for me I think now).

Oh Arti Pleeeeeeease tell me more! I haven't laughed at a post like that in ages (often found myself rolling with laughter at some of Sybils posts! I don't remember the superglue incident!

I watched LLL - couldn't agree more Lady how annoying were those two from London!

Really good news trace and no milk - that's a massive leap. i remember when ds dropped that night feed - it wasn't long at all before he couldn't care less about it.

ds does not stop moving!! I'm starting to think I drank too much coffee when pregnant! Does anyone elses dc flap arms and legs constantly? admitedly it's more often when he is excited. he has one of those kick and play bouncers and he kicks his legs constantly when he's sitting or lying anywhere and usually his arms start up. he does stop when he gets tired though and falls asleep. Guess I should be thankful that he sleeps, and that he's so happy most of the time - he does make me laugh, I just hope it's normal and he's not hyper!

LadyT (and older threadies), can I just mention the words "prince Michael of Moldavia" to you?!

I hope that does mean something or I am going to look like a loon....

Oh Syb, he didn't look quite so hot clad in lavender silk shirts viewed through the vaseline greased lens of 'Dynasty'...

I can remember 'playing' Dallas in the playground at primary school and arguing over who was going to be Pam/Sue Ellen/Lucy...

Hoping Trace had another good night.

Modern, perhaps you should be patient (unlike me!) and wait to watch the B o D when the nights are drawing in!

Morning,

Loved LLL last night. But I was so disappointed by that couple. I wanted lots of strops. I couldn't believe it when she told Phil that if she doesn't get her own way she sulks. Sounds like DS1!!! I nearly cried when they showed that woman who survived the London bombings walking down the aisle.

I have just passed a practice theory test online. So I am going to book my real one for a months time. Then I can get plenty of practice in. Got a driving lesson this afternoon. I am hoping that I won't be as scared as I was last week.

Hope all of you are well.

"Club soda please"

OF should that be purse seeing as we are playing at being American?

Hope all are well. Well done on the driving Kayz!

Morning.
Good idea Lady T - I think we can leave it til then as have a few other box sets to get through first!
Syb - was going down the loon route but have googled and now know what's going on!
Well done on the test Kayz.

Oh arti I chuckled heartily at your DH. I scrape the last droplets of jam with a knife but have never even considered putting my hand in to fish bits out . Very funny indeed!

zoe DD had trouble before her teeth arrived, teeth 3 and 4 gave her a little trouble (nothing major) and the other 4 just arrived no problem. If the first few didn't hurt hopefully your DD will be fine. I used to LOVE the library van arriving at our village when I was a child! No library vans here . I think DD and I are reaching the end of the board books we haven't read at the library - we are fans of the 'That's not my...' series!

Trace Oh I love the Cites of Gold theme, I was singing it just the other day. I remember Trapdoor being very good, I used to also like James and the Magic Torch, Fraggle Rock and, being a studious sort of girl, Blue Peter .

Fingers crossed for the real thing now kayz!

daisy Poor Mr Daisy! Is he being a good patient?!

DD is waking so best go, have nice days all.

syb & ladyt- i am officially the most geeky michael praed fan ever. i have all of robin of sherwood on dvd, including the series with that talentless traitor jason connery, plus an extensive MP scrapbook. i didn't get to see him in pirates of penzance, alas, nor the thing he did in the west end a few years ago, but i do know he reads women's erotic fiction for talking books. right... must track that down on amazon NOW

will be back with bigger me post soon

DH is being good, tbh I don't think its half as painful as he expected! Although he is a little 'bruised' I think services are resumed when its no longer sore but other contraceptive measures are required. He gets his 'samples' tested at 12 & 16 weeks and if his little swimmers are all gone then its been a sucess!

My knee is a little better today, so am leaving the Dr's for now in the hope its on the mend.

DS on the other hand was a right little bugger last night! Woke at 12pm, bottle back to sleep, woke at 4am bottle back to sleep. Woke at 5am ready to play...grrrrr. We stopped giving him supper as I felt it was too much food,, but he has taken to several wakings again so its supper again tonight!

Driving lesson in 20 minutes. I feel a bit sick. I really have got to relax.

hello!
Don't worry Kayz - just relax hope it goes well
Last night P only woke up twice (midnight ish and 3 ish) and both times dh went in, put his hand on her and she settled down in about 4 minutes . He says a steady hand is better then a pat! Anyway at I heard dummy rattling and gentle "aahhh" sounds this morning, checked the clock and it was 7am! No milk since 6.30 last night! And she wasn't starving either so I KNOW now that I'm not depriving her of milk.
DH has just set off with Lu to go camping for a couple of nights so it's down to me tonight. Eeek. Hope I get the technique right - and that the change of parent doesn't set us back. I think I might put on one of his t-shirts so I don't smell of boobs ...wish me luck!

I just got a letter from Occ health saying they need more information on my PND They've asked for loads of details on symptoms and treatment and have said if I don't reply straight away it might affect my start date. doh. I told them loads! Can't believe it wasn't good enough!

my burn is very ouchy today. I'm so careless. Even Lucy calls me a clumsy clot

guess I ought to do this occ health thing while P naps...

back later (with no guilt about neglecting dh as he won't be here!)

Hello lovely MNet Mums! I have been lurking from Canada, but too busy trying to refrain from selling DS and/or disowning my extended family to post.

Way back when I left, Veggie had a vision of me walking through sun dappled woods with DS and my guitar. Ha double ha ha.

It's been a bit of a shocker, to be honest. Sleep has gone completely haywire and we're staying with various people the whole 7 weeks we are here so it is impossible to do anything other than feed, bring him into bed, muzzle him, etc. I am considering checking into a hotel for a few nights to try the shush patting a la Mrs Sleep. Which, BTW, seems to be working for Trace and Indith (last I heard on the sleep boards). Way to go ladies!

Well meaning family are trying to be helpful, but - and I know I am being completely ungrateful - their idea of helping seems to be playing with DS when he is awake and happy and then handing him back over when he needs a feed or a sleep. They give me a "break", during which I clean up his highchair, do laundry, maybe grab a shower, and then I get to spend the rest of the time avoiding getting bitten while breastfeeding and putting him to sleep (writhing, yelling, breaking back trying to put 10.6 kg baby in and out of travel cot).

At times I am wishing away the summer just to get back to my own space and my own routine in London .

Enough self indulgence though! We had a decent night last night, and I got to sleep on the sofa while DH dealt with DS.

SL - I have the exact same insomnia problem as you. It's like I now have a sleep quota (about 5 hours of broken sleep...waaaahhhh!) and if I get too much sleep (i.e. by napping during the day) I can't sleep at night. I have to take myself out of bed to avoid tossing and turning and getting angry and read a trashy but somewhat absorbing book until I fall asleep with the light on. I have "airport" books that I read in the middle of the night (Marian Keyes fits the bill very well) but other books for other times.

Sorry for being such a sour old cow, but I had to unload in the basket! DS has been napping for over an hour now, so I have to be grateful for small miracles.

We've had two teeth since arriving here and they didn't come silently. But they are so cute when DS smiles!

I would also say that DS may actually work out crawling before we leave Canada, which has really surprised me. He used to hate being on his tummy but all of a sudden seems keen to practice getting up on all fours and rocking.

PMSL at Arti's DH, BTW.

Hopefully by my next post I will be living Veggie's imagined idyll and enjoying the gorgeousness of the Canadian woods while calmly strumming away on my guitar (at the moment I have only managed to learn 3 chords and am just trying to find songs that only require D, A and G).

Sorry to be missing the London meet up!

Lovely to hear from you Mom. I'd love to go to Canada so very jealous.

Driving wasn't that bad. I managed to drive on the main road so I feel quite happy.

Kayzr I just learnt to drive last year, I hated lessons at first but got used to them and am so glad I can drive now, makes things so much easier with baby and all, though I try not to use it too often, what with incinerating the planet and all that. Somewhat surreally I ended up taking my test the day after my grandmother was killed in an accident, well not accident, she was just run over, which made the whole thing very strange.

I had one of those awful knackered and no patience days today. DD was in a really bad mood - until DH came home at 4 and she spent the next three hours beaming at him. Hmmm. Still at least it meant I could have some time to myself and go blackberrying again. So there is now the World's Largest Crumble (TM) in the oven.

kiwi I don't suppose I could be cheeky and ask for a wee helping of crumble - it's my fave!

not seen Tilly for a while...