Jan '09 'All we are saying is give peas a chance....and carrots and broccoli and cumcumber and........'

[hongkongzoe]

...here we go ladies, right I'm off to catch up!

Cross posts Kitty!

Can you get arnica cream at all? will H&B do it?
Yes- DH much improved, and definitely un-porcine this evening
Your DS1?

Yes you can get arnica cream, we have one called Dr Greenfingers Bumps and Bruises Ointment which has been fantastic with all ds2's bumps. here I think we got it from the health shop on Solihull highstreet.

Alternatively, Boots do a whole range: here

Great news about DH, he has been on my mind since I read your post on the other thread.

Ds1 is fully recovered as well thanks and now has entirely too much energy! (Been a right little monkey all day today.) Back to school tomorrow, but just for Monday and Tuesday as that's the end of term.

Great news about dh EPPM - phew!
Get that arnica in, it's really very good. You can't go wrong nor do wrong with it.

You are in lin efor some serious chiling Peach! You must be passed yourself!

I always spend at least £60 in Ikea, even if I jsut go for tea lights.

Pat has the swing pump, which is generally considered good. The smaller electric one is a bit hit and miss in reviews. The swing is 2 phase, so it has a light rapid suction till you let down or see milk, then a stronger longer slower action. You can turn the suction up and down too. I like it, as pumps go. They are all crap on principle. That site I linked too has all the info you might need. Sorry if you know all this

Thanks moose... I will get some tomorrow morning. Have just roused her to check she is okay, and she is fine, gone back to sleep too.
Thank goodness the oinkers goes quickly... it is so worrying having babies around let alone a family member having it.
(DS is def a psb rather than a nsb ... well most of the time )

2 days of vaguely sane life left then?

Yep, two days before my sanity is well and truly tested.

Only joking, truth is I can't wait to get my boys away from 'that place' and have them all to myself for a few weeks. (Remind me I said that when I've lost it after just the first week. )

Dog try and keep the faith, you never know when he might surprise you with a big leap forwards. Look at ds2, couldn't read or write (even his own name) in January but now is ahead of a lot of the class according to his teacher - they all do it in their own time, we can't rush 'em.

x-post tree... thanks!

Moose yes... it is lovely to have dd all day to myself... but I have DS now too, so not quite as fun as previously! She is having a whale of a time though- she is such a mummy's girl.

Oh Dog

I have zero experience or knowledge but I can totally see where you are coming from.

Dog you are not 'going on' and I am more than happy to listen.

Its not your fault, these things just happen, but I know how you feel,I am the same abut ds1 and his 'issues'.

Is he having any speech therapy at all?

Apparently I can't type

dog- it's not your fault. His comprehension is good isn't it? My good friend didn't speak til 5- nothing at all, not even sounds or babble- you'd never know now.
Does he point at stuff for you to know what he wants?
(is he still 2 btw?)

Would it help to teach him a few basic hand signals so that at least you feel like you can understand him a bit better? It might give you more confidence/faith in yourself.

Am just looking for the supplier we bought Talkability from, they sell resources to help with this sort of stuff.

target word and It takes two to talk are two programmes from the same people as the Talkability book we bought to help ds1 with his social and communication issues.

Its difficult to get hold of copies at a reasonable price, I did find a shop that did them online for about 35 pounds, but now I can't find it. Will keep looking for you though.

I don't know if I said before... but '2 words at 2, 3 words at 3' and it applies for the whole of the time they are 2 (or 3) btw- so he has another 5 months before he needs to say 2 words- a long time in their development at this age. He will be a whole different child in 5 mo time.

Comprehension is the key, and understanding instructions is great. I read a few books on this when dd was younger- she didn't even say mama or papa until 19 months, let alone anything else, and all the other babies we knew were rattling on... we were a little worried, but what I read put our minds at ease once we saw what comprehension she had.

Spookily- she is obsessed with Mr Tumble.... they showed an episode at nursery school, and she hasn't stopped on about it since... at Legoland there were posters everywhere for him appearing the next week, and she keeps begging to go and see him.

Gosh you know our dd1 had a therapist come around as she had so few words. I think she would have been 2 - 2.5 and had maybe 30 words instead of the 50 they wanted.

Then bang - and now she is like a woman who swallowed a dictionary.

There is alot of time for him to click and progress at his own rate.

A huge worry for you though. Have you a surestart centre - they often have SALT you can access. Thats how we saw ours, the GP referral and wait would have taken till she was about 16.

Got it here. £32.95 for the dvd and here £31.95 for the book.

Might be worth a read? Have read some good reviews online.

I see what you mean about the signing not encouraging the speech. Hadn't thought of that.

Almost forgot, some of our closest friends have a little boy the same age as ds2 (now 5) he hardly had any clear speech until he went into Reception last September and I really struggled to understand him. Went to their house a couple of weeks back and he is doing amazingly well now. He had language delay with no identified cause, was assessed, I think, but just seemed to do it when he was ready. He still struggles with more complicated words and sentences on occasion but is totally able to communicate.