June09: the one where we learn to type with one finger

[Tee2072]

Hi all and welcome to our first post-natal thread! Nappy's, colic and burping OH MY!

Come join the conversation as our baby's grow and grow.

thanks tee, naat, ermin... he has settled for the first time today since 4.30am NHS Direct said to give him some calpol is he seems distressed by the burns, which he doesn't really at the mo, so will see how it goes. Stupidly googled about baby sunburn, and saw a thread off another forum where the posters were talking about a baby who had got burnt at 4 months, and how the mother should take the baby to A&E, and should be spoken to by social services... Ermin you're right, I'll be learning from this one!!! Unfortunatley I think he has inherited my casper-like pale skin, so unfortunately I can't see this being the last time he has a red stripe across his nose!! ow, poor thing

Regarding feeding, it has started to get more comfortable now, so much so I fed him lying on my side in the night. I don't think I got it quite right though, as I am quite sore again today, but will keep trying with the lying down, as it was so much better being comfortable and resting my head on the pillow instead of being hunched up!!

unrelated... any of those who have facebook, if you would like to add me, I have some photos of Caelan on there! My surname is Lucking- I think I am the only one with my name!! Just leave me a little message who you are on here, I get so many random adds from strangers that I ignore!!

Hey ladies hope you are all well. I am trying to get Aaliyah down so that I can have a proper catch up on here whilst DH is out and DS is asleep. She has other plans though the monkey. She is talking to a balloon at the moment so I thought I?d get started!

We finally saw my sister and family yesterday at a BBQ at my folks it was lovely to see the boys having fun together, DS worshipped his 5 year old cousin who was very sweet with him. The evening ended badly though as my Dad got drunk and lectured me about going back to work (some of you may remember that he is always harping on at me about this) I came home feeling really low, he is clearly disappointed in me and cannot understand why I want to look after my own babies and live with less money whilst doing so, I think it is very sad that he does not recognise the value in it.

Anyway, off to catch up now?

Worried sorry to hear about little Caelan . The feeding thing sounds exactly like me with Eleri. I was feeding her for hours on end - I assumed that's what was meant by demand feeding. She was using me for comfort and now I take her off after about 15/20 minutes. She only ever takes herself off after a ravenous and fast feed.

Choccie - I can't see yr profile.

MrsM - sounds like ds had a lovely time.

June - I cannot believe you have only had one day since giving birth without visitors . You are one sociable lady - I'd tell them all to feck off

Bigcar - I like yr style perhaps you should check to see if yr boobs are now on youtube . I fed Eleri our second lounge the other day, no one can see throught he window from the road but the postman walked apst the window and looked quite surprised!

Humf little monkey has only just gone to sleep so I only have a wee while to catch up now

Laura ? hope Sarah is back to her healthy self now. You must be exhausted from all the worry.

Doris ? sounds like you have had a hard time with your poor boobs glad to hear they are feeling better. My right side is still pretty sore, the nipple keeps cracking and I?ve noticed a new blister tonight I wonder if it will ever heal properly. I try to correct the latch all the time, I think my nipples just aren?t ideal for breastfeeding, far too flat. When will your patio be finished? Hope DD enjoyed her party, I bet she did glad to hear the EBM was taken well, I haven?t tried yet.

Hey Silkcushion Naat and Bigcar

Ermintrude ? good point about being used as a dummy, I too learnt that from DS! By the way, the tea tree/lavender combo even works wonders in a nappy bucket in this heat, thanks for the tip

Littlesarah ? hope your app is successful thanks for the advice re DH I think there is a lot of truth in what you say and I am trying very hard not to be antagonistic

June ? hope your head is much better tomorrow, migraines are horrible .

Worriedamy ? your body should make all the milk Caelan needs but your pain could be messing with your supply. My DS never got nipple confusion by the way and we used bottles, protectors and dummies with him from 3 weeks. Hope feeding at the Gala day wasn?t too stressful. Poor Calean getting burnt, I am paranoid about it but then the sun is mega hot here and could fry Aaliyah in seconds. I?ve never mastered the feeding lying down thing, I tried with DS when I was in hospital but I just couldn?t get comfy.

Daisy ? I was prescribed ABs for mastitis but never took them, I did what Ermintrude did and tried to shift it myself first and it worked on both occasions. As I?ve said before I swear by my Breast Nurse which are gel pads that you can make hot or cold. Hope you are feeling much better.

Bigcar ? LOL at the CCTV story. I was feeding DD in a café yesterday and a bunch of American teenagers were at the next table and started saying ?breastfeeding is so euuggghh? and the like what do they know!

Tee ? hope Adam is giving you a break now and then.

Choccie I?m already loving Mummy and daughter time too can?t see your photos

Where?s Loouise? And Help??

Hiiiiiii everybody, wow, some catch up required!!

Worried and Laura - sorry to hear about your LOs and their ailments, I hope wee Caelan and Sarah are doing well now.

Daisy very sorry to hear about the mastitus too - hope it clears up asap.

MrsMc sounds like things may be back on track with your DH; I hope you're managing. Sounds to me like he's not too aware of quite how thoughtlessly he's behaving. I'm glad the June girls' advice was some comfort to you. at your dad sounding off about going back to work! You stick to your guns.

Naat - Good work on the freecycle front, sister! I'm a big fan. Very of your Fisher Price seat - my friends in Glasgow have one for me but I keep forgetting to phone the courier and arrange pick up (duh)

Quick update from me and Ishbel: my little princess turns 6 weeks on Thursday and I can honestly say it's been the happiest six weeks of my life. Waking up to her tiny little face, gummy smiles and gorgeous gurgles make everyday an adventure. It's like being
in love x 10000000. Admittedly, I've been extremely blessed: bfing is actually extremely pleasurable (sorry Worried ) and she sleeps from 11.30pm - 4am then 5am - 7am. (Still 20lbs over my pre-pregnancy weight though, so there is some trade off for all this!)

Contrary to all my fears, I'm extremely happy living up north with my parents, too. So much so, that I've decided to delay my return to London until Feb and start a Masters in Sept up here. It's in Conflict & Security, so basically formalising a lot of stuff I've been working on for the last 2 years anyway, and I only have to attend one day a week. I'm actually quite looking forward to it (and oogling all the 25 year old students )

Things between babyfather and I have also been surprisingly good. He was up this weekend and it was really good fun playing the doting parents. He absolutely loves her. I'm feeling less threatened and more relaxed about his involvement, although I still find his parents' relentless enthusiasm quite hard (it's very odd to have two erstwhile complete strangers have a strong emotional attachment to your child). I still get cold sweats though when I contemplate overnight stays etc (LittleSarah - did you feel this too until your DD got a bit older?). It's also very odd saying goodbye to him when he goes back on the Eurostar to his girlfriend. He said that she'd seen some pics of us together with Ishbel on facebook and was inconsolable...it's all so bloody weird (both the situation and the repercussions of social networking sites...)

Anyway, I should try not to worry about the future and savour this precious precious time. Today I spoke to a very dear friend who is just about to turn 38 and has been as unlucky in love as I have. I urged her to go to a sperm bank and forget waiting for Mr Right....Ishbel is the best thing that ever happened to me, despite the unconventional circumstances and worries.

Anyway hugs and love to you all! Hey - glad you enjoyed your NCT meet up, jUne - I'm going on a wee 'holiday' back to London next week to introduce LO to my friends and meet up with my NCTers. So strange to think that we made all these new Actual Human Beings who now exist in their own right!

Gosh, sorry that was a very long post

right, off out to buy nipple shields today... After a couple of days of only mild pain, we r back to excruciating pain, so gonna try the shields. If this doesnt work its bottles for me, I cant do this anymore...

I haven't been saying anything worried since I am not breastfeeding and have no right to an opinion, but I was told, over and over again, by many many people when I was trying to get my milk to come in, that if it hurts at all, the latch is wrong. Is the baby's mouth opened wide and taking in loads of breast, not just nipple?

hi tee. I think so, he opens his mouth wide, but the skin on the areola is now so shiny, that he starts off having it all it his mouth, but then slips a bit. But the pain is constant throughout. Also, the damage on the nipple is where his tongue would be against it, not the roof of his mouth, I dont know if thats significant or not? A couple of people have observed the feeding, and said it looks fine the thing is it got better, but I think I ruined it by feeding his lying down Also, when he is feeding, it almost feels like he is chewing the boob? I dont know what I'm doing to be honest, all I do know is that both nipples are bleeding again, and I'm sick of being in pain over and over again! (self pity alert!)

Worried, I sent you a msg on FB.

Hi all! I'll come back later. Mila is taking a nap and I must get on with the dissertation revision

xxx

hi naat, will av a look at my fb now! Did a feed with a shield, wow what a difference! Its a bit difficult to stop the seal from breaking though? Any tips for avoiding nipple confusion with them?

Quick post, well quick ish!

Looouise - Glad to hear things are going so well with Ishbel re eating, sleeping and general loving! Six weeks already! I remember when you were still waiting and waiting.. Good luck with the masters stuff, I'm glad you've settled so well up North. Babyfather situation are always a little odd I guess, but very strange with the girlfriend! My ex still hasn't had anyone I know about, but that isn't wholly surprising as I was his first girlfriend at 21 yrs old. I worry about him getting married and neglecting Molly for new familyn (horrible for her) and or her getting a stepmum who doesn't like/love her. Doesn't appear to happening just yet though! Molly stayed over with her dads from a year or so I think, gosh it is all so blurry. It was strange but I loved getting out and getting a lie-in!

Alex and Molly and I are about to get oot to buy some art supplies and other bits. I have booked Molly in for a drama/dance week next week which I think she will love and will give me a break... only £80 for 9.30 - 3pm. So I plan to go to baby cinema (at the Filmhouse for those who know Edinburgh) and see the new film about Coco Chanel, looking forward to it already.

MrsMcJnr - Hope things are okay with dh. Dh had a bit of a horrible moody moment with me at the weekend. I was quite shocked as it is very out of character. He was very contrite though and I think it is very much tiredness and adjusting to the new baby etc. Most annoying about it was, like you, he snapped and stormed out in front of the kids and I really don't like atmosphere in front of the wee ones. Try not to let your dad get you down, I thing I will be criticised for going back to work come the new year by MIL. She is lovely in many ways but certainly judgemental and I've already heard her talking about how much better it is for kids to be with their mum (and she has been a far from perfect mother apart from being at home when they were wee) despite the fact she knows we can't afford for me to stay at home. Urgh. I shall cross that conversational bridge when I come to it!

Worried - Don't be too hard on yourself, these things happen! Ds went a bit pink a few weeks ago after being out in the sun and I felt dreadful, but it cleared up very quickly.

Laptop doing a full anti-virus test so I cannot open many things... let's catch up then!!

LittleS, baby cinema sounds fun!! and drama/dance week for Molly sounds equally or more fun for her

Worried, what I did was use the shields for a few days (3) until the nipples were a bit better and not bleeding and then started using them every other feed so that Mila fed from the "nude" breast as well and therefore help her avoid this "nipple confusion" thing. Mila is also v v v v "active" and moves so much sometimes the seal just vanishes

Tee, hi!!

Loouise, hi!! GLad to hear from you again!! Lady, go pick up that swing! It's absolutely fab!!! Glad things are more than well both with Ishbel and with babyfather. Congrats on the master!! Whereabouts are you here up north?

Mrsmc, at those teens, what on earth do they know??? So sorry to hear about how the BBQ ended please don't let your dad's comments get you down... you know you're doing things right, and esp. what you want right now... maybe in the future you'll go back to work but it'll be because you want it and you decide it not because you feel you have to due to his comments. I haven't experienced this but DH has and family pressure is something that can get you really down (((hug)))

Silk, LOL at the postman's face

Bigcar, LOL! let's hope we don't see you on youtube, as silk said

Choccie, hi! I can't even enter your profile, like Ermin

June, hi! Glad you enjoyed your NCT gather-up! We're usually late since Mila was born something that never happened to me before as I hate being late but well, not I just have to relax

Quiet day over here, I'm trying to take advantage of Mila's naps to work on the dissertation (I'm just "polishing" it). Have some problems with nighmare neighbours but I'll tell you about that later, now I have to go

Waves to all, hope you're having a lovely day!

xxx

Ok I'm being a copmplete tech phobe here but how do I get my photos to appear on my profile.???

I have uploaded them and can see them and have asked for my mumsnet mates to be able to view them but its not happening.

Choccie, I can see your profile now but not the pics It's odd, you say you've uploaded them so I don't know why we can't see them

hey Juners!

This pm is my 6 weeks check, yay. How did the doctor check that your uterus is back to its normal size? No-one's mentionned it to me yet (midwife, health visitor or GP).
Migraine gone thank god.

silk "visitors" include sil and bil who were coming over pretty much everyday (or in turns) pre-baby, sil for tea after work and bil for dinner. As much as I want (and I do have a little moan at dh about it from time to time) I can't tell them to f off.
I must admit it is a lot easier not having anyone turn up at the door step like that. (sil would literally come and park on the drive and say "I'm outisde can I come in?...)

we're sorting out going to France for a weekend and Cyprus for a few days this year...
So any tips for travelling with a young baby and what stuff to bring etc are welcome.
I'm putting a list together slowly, been recommended the samsonite pop up carrycot which lookd really practical and we ordered. also probably some microwave steriliser bags and some cold sterilising tablets.
Only problem now is that Cyprus has got an awful lot more expensive since they got the Euro...

Time to get ready, catch up later!

choccie have you told MN who your mates are?

Well, back from GP and "all is well". (they always say that, either that or "it's normal" to whatever worry I have.
They go over stuff way too fast though in my opinion.
I asked him about getting back to boxfit and running and he said "you didn't have a cesarean did you?" I know they see a lot of people but I have been there like 5 times in the past 6 weeks to get my stitches checked out because of an infection.
Anyway exercise is out of the question for the next 3 months still because of the internal stitches.

Contraception: so I asked for the mini pill and he mentionned again injections and implants, has anyone ever tried either?
I'm a bit fed up with taking the pill and was looking forward to after having a baby were supposedly you have more options.

No mention of my uterus and I forgot to ask.

Tee, did you figure out what the rules are for baby seats and cabs/coaches/buses?

Louise On your health record did they start the weight chart on the EDD or on the week that Ishbel was actually born?
I assume EDD is "estimated delivery date" which in my case was 11 days before birth so the weight should be ploted first 11 days after on the chart, surely so that it is correct, otherwise they would have put on there "birth" instead of EDD?

Sorry it's all questions from me :S
take care!

june 3 months? My GP told me to go ahead and do yoga as soon as I felt up to it. So I am starting next week, which will be 9 weeks postnatal. 2 months is also what I was told by they physio who came to see me when I was still in hospital.

Oh and you don't need a baby seat on any of those.

Evening ladies!

Quick post from me while Delie is on the playmat enjoying "independent activity time" (ie grabbing at the poor hanging toys and giving them what for). She is now smiling and gurgling and being absolutely adorable. Except when she won't settle at night, that is (last night she was up w DH until 2am - he is destroyed today!).

Reading VERY quickly through your posts, as always am amazed at how we are all going through the same things!

DH and I are far more snappy w each other than we used to be, esp from me to him. Am trying to be less bovine, but get stressed and tired and am almost always distracted.

Have almost reconciled myself to the fact that I will not be exclusively breastfeeding Delie. I feed at night and in the morning, but the rest is formula. Wrestling with guilt about this. Think the Cow and Gate formula is giving her stinky farts, so may look to move to Aptimal. For all our sakes!

Swearing by Dr Browns bottles, though, as well as that Dentinox. Went from being a bundle of rage to a much calmer baby.

Oops, Delie crying! xxx

Yes I have told MN who my mates are and its still not working. Going to check again.

Well it seems I have done everything right. I'm wondering if there is a delay at MN. I out my profile on but it took 24 hours before anyone could access it. Will check again tomorrow.

Hope you are all well today. Have to put boys to bed now so only quick post.Sorry.

Bunny - MN is so great for making you feel normal isn't it? Poor dh up so late with Delie, this is the life, such highs and lows! Don't worry about the breastfeeding one bit, the fact that your still doing it twice a day is great.

So, I came into the living room today to find Molly holding a chocolate button to Alex's lips and him licking away! Lol. I don't think a couple of licks will cause much damage... hee hee.

Hi all!
one-handed here

LittleS, LOL bless her!! How sweet of her to want to share some chocolate and no doubt Alex was licking away

Choccie, still no pics

Bunny, hi! poor DH, mine had a similar night last week, from 11 until 2am bouncing on the ball w Mila Glad to hear the dentinox is working! And yes, it's a relief to know we're all going through the same things at home

June, agree w tee, 3 months sounds like a lot. maybe it's because it's running and not any low impact exercise? My GP told me last week I could start w pilates, but it's low impact, like tee's yoga so maybe that has to do w it? Maybe other Juners will come along w better advice. No experience w injections or implants here...Re. travelling, we just travelled for 4 days but we took plenty of clothes (never underestimate their ability to get dirty , pleeenty of nappies (I actually took a whole pack ), wipes (only use them whe out and about), shields, dummies, the shampoo or baby bath you use, towel, aaaaaand I'm out. Anyway, this is what I took but maybe some juners will metion more things. Of course you need the feeding equipment, but no knowledge of that

Right, this is taking aaaaages w one hand!
Nice-ish day here, temp is really lovely. Going to Leeds w my translator friend at noon, so I'm glad to go out on a nice day
Not possible to tell you about the nightmare neighbours w one hand so I'll leave it for later.
Hope you have a nice day Juners!!
(((waves to all)))

Hiya everyone

Goodness its been busy here over the past few days would love to catch up but dont think brain has capacity to remember anything

woried I hope Caelen is better and hope that bf is going better for you

june like tee I was told I could excercise just after my 6 week check which is on monday when it'll actually be 7 week lol looking to be going back to karate next week for light excercise

mrsmcjnr i hope you and your DH are getting on better since last time I was on x

loouise glad to hear your loving being a mum and that bf is going well for you. like you Sarah was 6weeks yesterday and the past six weeks have been wonderful even with her ups and downs I would not change this experience for anything in the world

hiya everyone else sorry for not replying to everyone individually I hope you are all well!

Well Sarah had a terrible day yesterday, crying constant from 7am until 9pm poor baby and mummy is shattered but she is much better today thank god she is sitting in her rainforest swing watching the tv, thats been the best gift ever when she has trapped wind or really pressing to do a poo if i put her in the swing 2 mins later she is pooping and farting lol oh the things that make this mum smile

Sounds silly as she is only 6 weeks but i do think she is teething, managed to have a look at her bottom gum yesterday and there is noticable white/teeth coming up but not at the top yet so not sure if this is teething or not (spot the first time mummy here lol)
Just waiting on HV to come she is doing a post natal questionaire with me to make sure I am coping...last week i felt like she was wanting me to say i wasn't coping, honestly it was as if she had to meet a quota of new PND patients lol i know that sounds silly but every 2 mins it was have you been crying, are you coping, god with your husbands working hours you must feel like a single mum doing everything...it drove me mad!

Sorry for the me me me post didn't think it would be this long