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May 09 - weather and jabs = hot cross babies

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Momino · 02/07/2009 22:19

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runningmonkey · 08/07/2009 10:10

Morning folks,
Much better frame of mind today as managed to 2 hour stints of sleep - only by DH taking her and holding her upright. Some massive burps and trumps though so I think wind does have something to do with it. Also took A into bed with me at 5am and she fed and we both dozed until 8.30. She is now happily kicking away on her baby gym, a much different girl from yesterday. Thanks for all your support and advice. I really appreciated it. Now we just need to crack getting her to sleep in the crib!

Also, while I have a minute, I wanted to tell you about the HV they have been suggesting I top up with formula as A hadn't made it back to her birth weight. At birht she was 9lb7 and on 98th percentile. She dropped down to 75th then 50th according to the old charts. On Monday I demanded a copy of the new breast from birth charts which they have but aren't using until they've run out of the old ones and according to that she was on the 91st at brth and is now clearly following the 50th percentile so not a worry at all The senior HV was there and suggested her big weight drop at the start might be another indicator of mild gestational diabetes (I had some signs but Glucose tolerance test was on high end of normal). Interesting. I would reccomend demanding the new charts if you are having similar issues.

Right A is getting grouchy, boobs needed.

Hope others are ok today. If I get a mo I'll go read back some posts as I know I missed a few yesterday in my sleep deprived state.
xx

Belgianchocolates · 08/07/2009 11:06

Morning everyone,

I'm back from Belgium! It was hot, but otherwise lovely to see all my family. The drive down was fine as far as the dcs was concerned, but the traffic was pants. The M25 was the worse I've ever had and seemed to be one big traffic jam from the M1 to the M20. Luckily C stayed fast asleep during it all. For some reason my dcs always seem to have major developmental leaps when on holiday or visiting my parents (e.g. 1st teeth, dd1 started crawling and pulling up to standing,..). This time was no different C started being far more consistent with her smiles, started holding cooing conversations with me and being generally more settled, staying in her pram for long times and even doing her daytime sleeps in there . So far she seems to be carrying on the good work at home too.

I got lots of lovely presents to take home with me and now have a high chair and small buggy (from 6m) up in the loft. I've also now got a baby monitor, so I can finally try and put C to bed upstairs in her crib in the evenings. I think I'll move the older dcs' bedtime to 8 o'clock, so I can start C's at 7.30 and have some time alone with them. I hope it works.

DH finally had his 1st smile of C this morning, which was lovely. With all the work he's doing on the house to get it in selling order so we can move, we both feel like he's missed out a lot of time with C already. We're both looking forward to our summer hols in 2-3 weeks so she can finally get to know her daddy properly.

explosive poos C was nice enough to provide 3 over the weekend with oma and opa . One on my mum's lap, one in the car while waiting to board the ferry. I had to change her nappy and clothes in the car it was very windy and I was wearing a fairly short skirt, not good . The last one was after we boarded the ferry, considering she had already done a huge one I hadn't anticipated any more leaks and so I had to remove her clothes and have her in just her vest until we got back to the car.

1st babies Same here, even though I wasn't overly anxious with ds, I did struggle to get ready and be up and about by a decent time of day. I don't think I managed to tidy up the boxes from gifts until he was at least 6 weeks old . This time around I was at that sort of stage by 2 weeks. I found baby no3 harder to adjust to than no1 and 2. I sort of put it down to being in my 30's rather than 20's and the biggish gap between dd1 and dd2.

I hope all of you who are feeling down are getting help and I hope you're feeling better soon.

looby I've said it before and I'll say it again. I think you're doing brilliantly with the bf. Don't think you're failing, because you're not .

Our dryer broke down today. I've got tons of washing waiting to be done as I've not been able to do any since our trip. I've got 2 wet loads out drying and haven't got the space for any more. So that's a little bit annoying. I hope it'll fix itself again like last time

C is now 8 weeks, I hadn't received an app't yet for her check despite phoning the HV office last week. So I phoned them again this morning. It looks like they'd forgotten about her and so they've asked me to take her tomorrow. I'm really curious as to how long and heavy she is now. I saw my cousin's 4mo and C was just as big and heavy!

I think I'll have to claim the name amnesty now, because after 4 days of not coming on line it's hard to catch up and remember who said what.

Eek. One of the chickens is on the roof of the shed, inches away from the neighbours wall. Better go and get her off before she escapes!

Belgianchocolates · 08/07/2009 11:07

Wow, what a mammoth post that was!

pulapula · 08/07/2009 11:10

Morning all,

Well someone has swapped my baby again . S went in his cot last night without crying at 8pm, didn't wake til 1am, fed, fell asleep after i did a super tight swaddle, and was so soundly asleep i moved him back to his cot and he slept 2-6.15, quick feed, and slept in the bed til 7.45 (I was up at 7 with the other DCs). Not even a grizzle whilst i got everyone ready for nursery. Thats the first night i have had my bed to myself in 8 weeks and slept soundly .

Saw my GP and she says she is sure I am depressed and that i would benefit from taking ADs so i have my prescription and plan to start tonight. She says 6-8 weeks is the hardest stage, so hang in there everyone.

ReeBee · 08/07/2009 11:34

hello

one handed typing here as F asleep in the most uncomfortable position upright against my shoulder.

I did come on to whinge as F has been struggling since yesterday evening - either screaming, being sick (not just a little bit but a lot) or feeding - vicious circle. He did sleep ok in the night but I haven't been able to put him down since 7am today.

However, having read running and grumpy's posts it seems we're all going through similar things - F is only a couple of days older. I am struggling to get wind up - either nothing or he's violently sick.

He's not sick every time I feed him and doesn't have a temperature so no need for doctor yet, and I'm going to take the advice that pula and fi gave running.

pleased that people are having better days today (especially you, Ses, yesterday sounded really difficult).

good to have you back, belgian - seems you had a lovely hol at your mum and dad's.

F has always done fairly exlposive poos - they can be heard from the next room! his worst was when at my mum and dad's, they had visitors and he was sitting on my mum's knee.... she was wearing a cream linen skirt

pula, good news in that you've had your thoughts confirmed and can now take the right action to deal with it.

better go, F has slipped so starting to cry again.

a tricky day ahead, i think...

ReeBee · 08/07/2009 11:41

PS flippin, is it too early for a cocktail?! Not sure virtual cake will cut it today!

SpangleMaker · 08/07/2009 11:41

Hi all, sorry for those who've had bad days, I think there are too many of you to mention

Pula hope the ADs work for you.

Had a couple of bad nights here - first (Monday night) was me, H slept beautifully from 10 - 3.30 and then til 6.30, but DH woke me up at 2.30 and for some reason I couldn't get back to sleep at all. Then last night H did a great stint from 8 - 1.30am but then was awake every hour to either feed or grumble I wonder if he's coming up to his 12wk/3 month growth spurt... he's 14wks today but because he was a bit early I'm not sure when to expect things.

Ses what a day! I'm generally ok with what H throws at me when I know what it is and can deal with it straight away but other times, esp when we're out and I can't deal with him straight away, it all goes to pot and I end up in a right faff.

On Monday we went to an NCT ante-natal class with another couple from our group to talk about our experiences (me with the 'nice' 'easy' birth and the other girl with a horror story!). H did really well considering he'd been awake for ages and not fed for a while, and was in a hot room with 17 adults and another baby, but then I took him, he smelt milk I think and lost the plot, screaming his head off! NCT tutor took him off me and he quietened down immediately which made me ; then tried to feed him but he started screaming again - I was all hot & flustered and too by this time... in the end I did what I thought I should have done all along and took him to a cool quiet room to calm him down and feed him. Came back into the room 10 min later with a sleeping baby What a nightmare though.

Belgianchocolates · 08/07/2009 11:44

pula nice to hear that your GP confirms your suspicions. I hope the AD's help soon. Life has been especially hard for you though, I think being that your S is a particularly demanding lo, but even that sounds like it's slowly getting better . Having a good sleep on your own in bed does make a big difference.

I feel that C is definitely getting better here. We've got our ups and downs, but the general trend is definitely up. Just as well, because I'm starting to feel it in my pelvis when I've carried her too much. I hope the jabs tomorrow are not going to throw her off too much . The main difference is when she's awake. She actually seems to want to lie down somewhere where she can play now.

that b**y chicken is back on her way to that roof. I've actually seen her fly now. Where are the scissors? Time to do some wing clipping me thinks.

DandyLioness · 08/07/2009 12:30

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SesHasFinallyBecomeAMum · 08/07/2009 14:44

Much better day here

Went to Baby Cafe this morning and then came home and a friend came round for lunch. DS has done really well and even went in his bouncy chair whilst I had lunch so I had a v unusual meal time that didn't involve having him on my lap too!

runninng - glad you're having a better day too. As for HV, if A is alert and happy and you want to BF, then stick to your guns girl!

Belgian - glad you had a good trip. Souns like you had a car full of baby presents to bring back with you!

Pula - hope the ADs help. They can take a couple of weeks to start to work fully so worth persisting.

Reebee - hope your day doesn't turn into a tricky one...

Spangle - well done on going back to NCT and sharing your experience. I remember going with a friend and her DD a couple of years ago when she did the same. She felt really conscious of her DD behaving well so as not toput off all these expectant mums but a good dose of reality is probably a good thing.

LoobyLou36 · 08/07/2009 15:12

not too bad a day here..

went to bf group today which was great M in a good mood and had a nice mug of tea, cookie and a natter.Came home and M was a bit fussy and cryee for about an hour but managed to calm her down to bf.
So far today - no formula! yay!

ladyhelen2 · 08/07/2009 15:14

Hi all. Sorry (again) for being MIA for ages. It seems that I pop in every week or so, apologise for being a crap poster and promise to do better and then I go and do exactly the same again!

ses I know what you mean about the little things just seeming to pile up to produce one humongously bad day, but bless that lady in the coffee shop! Things like that make you realise that there really are some lovely people out there. Not like the lady in cafe nero that I encountered last week, who, as I was just standing up to put Rufus in his pram so I could leave, said " I would like to get past ". OK, love, give me 2 SECONDS AND WE WILL BE OUT OF YOUR WAY AND PERHAPS IF YOU HAD SAID PLEASE I MAY NOT BE SHOUTING NOW!!!!

looby how old is M now? The reason I ask is that this book I have (WOnderweeks) says that between 7 and 9 weeks they go through a big developmental stage when they get clingy, can lose their appetite and get cranky more. Then they start to settle again when this bit is over and all is well again. Does this fit in with M's age at all?

pula sorry to hear you aren't feeling tip top but it sounds postive that you were aware and able to talk things through with your GP and HV. That has to be a good start to getting your groove back. Hope the AD's help too.

We had jabs yesterday. Apart from a bit of crankiness, all trauma free. I have to say Rufus is a joy and a delight to have. I'm sorry to say and am a bit aware that some of you are having a rough time, but he is such a lovely chilled baby. He is only waking once a night and during the day is pretty easy. We are still BF but only a bit. Once on waking and at bedtime too, but still have to top up. However, he is putting on weight nicely and seems healthy enough so am now not beating myself up about the FF. He plays under his baby gym and smiles and coos at his toys there and on his bouncy chair.

I even managed a night out (Take That at Wembley!!!) on Sat night, so all in all, things are good at Castle Ladyhelen. That could just be the cloud I was on at getting out the house and to a thing FOR ME. I think I am still in Take That land at the moment...............

LoobyLou36 · 08/07/2009 15:53

hi ladyhelen2

M is 11 wks old tomorrow, how old is Rufus now? (love the name)
weren't you due 3rd May-same as me?

at Take That

LoobyLou36 · 08/07/2009 16:04

Bugger - period just started
was hoping I wouldn't get any for a while with the bf and being on the mini pill

mind you before I got pregnant they only lasted 5 days every 4wks and were light after 2nd day so fingers crossed they'll be like that again

if I'm as regular as that again I won't be due one when I'm on hols in Majorca- yay!

ladyhelen2 · 08/07/2009 16:04

I was indeed due 3rd. He arrived on the 2nd so that makes him 9 weeks4 days now.
TT were v v v v v v v v v good.

LoobyLou36 · 08/07/2009 16:05

M has crashed out on me while bf so have moved her to bouncy chair - still asleep so far

LoobyLou36 · 08/07/2009 16:12

M awake again - prob hungry again

ladyhelen2 · 08/07/2009 16:52

According to the book, next developmental/fussy phase is 12 weeks. Maybe M has made it early, looby ?

Keep thinking my period is about to start too. Been having lower back type cramping for a couple of days.

Just had a good clear out of DS1's toys. He was 4 weekend before last so got a whole host of new plastic tat (ie now for hotwheels and transformers). Right, time for more food for Rufus, and perhaps an M&S teacake (only 75 cals you know!) for me.

runningmonkey · 08/07/2009 16:56

Hi dandy. Igwym re percentiles but th hv were concerned that A hadn't regained birth weight by 2 weeks and not the no of percentiles (well that's what they said) and they were basing this on the old charts based on formula fed babies. According to the bf graphs she is following one percentile exactly.

Ses glad you're having a better day

hi ladyh

loobs well done on the bf day

Belgian glad you had a good time

spangle well done on the visit to nct. I went back to my antenatal yoga class on mon to recount bs. A got passed around and was v well behaved even tho everyone thought she was a boy! Serves me right for not dressing her in pink!

Hi to all. Hope I haven't missed anyone x x

pulapula · 08/07/2009 17:09

Well S had his jabs and i was hoping for a 2 hour nap after especially after a dose of calpol and a BF. No such luck- he is very restless and keeps wanting milk for comfort.

Dr didnt think he had reflux as he is gaining weight well and not vomiting, plus infant gaviscon has to be given in a bottle which would mean FF or EBM every feed. Instead she thought he had colic and bad wind - he gave her a demo of his angry crying . She said if its colic, then it generally stops at 12 weeks, so just got a few weeks to get through until he's more settled. She also said she can ignore the crying and it doesn't bother her but i'm programmed to respond- its funny though because in the night, I am usually sleeping so soundly that DH has to wake me up and sometimes i do just have to ignore it if i'm busy with the other DCs.

Tummum · 08/07/2009 17:26

Evening all. Today was my wedding-outfit-shopping-trip and I was dead nervous that I wouldn't find anything to fit my blobby curvy body. I booked a 'Fashion Consultation' at John Lewis, and I have to say it was brilliant. I was there 45 mins and found a perfect outfit I wouldn't have looked at twice on my own. The dress is here and fab shoes here (the red wedges). I also purchased some Spanx which are FAB ! Thanks Monimo

I now am broke but need some nice red bangles to accessorise the outfit !

Belgian glad you had a lovely trip home

Pula your Dr sounds lovely. Hope the ADs help

Go Running with your assertiveness with HVs

[Envy] at those who have seen TT

Explosive poos well, G hasn't been for about a week, so it's gonna blow sometime soon, and it's gonna be messy , and it normally ruins an outfit !

FiKelly · 08/07/2009 17:32

looby grace does the same.. nods off sometimes after bf for 5mins then when in her bouncy chair she does another few burps and then realizes she needs seconds

i'm really chuffed with myself for 2 reasons today. now i'm cleared to drive dh and i decided to pretend he wasn't still around to help today as a practice for when he goes back to work on mon. so i've managed both dc's today on my own. I got a load of washing done and hung out, fed both dc's and me. we then headed off to take ds to pre school with grace a bit grizzly as she woke up when i put her in the car seat and then wanted fed again. got few more chores done before heading back to get ds. grace is now asleep from her last feed and ds is eating his tea. so mission accomplished so far. just ds's bedtime to do now. dh made use of the time moving ds's furniture etc back into his newly re finished and now carpeted bedroom for tonight.

2nd proud of myself bit is today is day 5 of bf with no formula top ups at all can't believe it's suddenly ok..

runningmonkey · 08/07/2009 17:41

Well done Fi on your day and the bf

lush dress tummum you're going to look fab

Grumpyoldcaaaaaaaa · 08/07/2009 17:44

Hello all

I have been feeling PND creeping up, I have had a shitty couple of days (walking round Tesco crying for instance). I thought I'd mention it to DH to get a hug and maybe a little more help.

What I actually got was 'I am not prepared to go through that again' and 'well it always happens to you, to me it's like the easy answer'.

I told him to stay at his friend's.

Sorry for mememe. Hope everyone is ok!

ReeBee · 08/07/2009 17:52

my day got better after about 2.30pm and I've managed a supermarket shop and a long walk with F and the dogs, all good. F calmer now.

Fi, fab news about the bfing and at your good day.

tummum, that's a beautiful dress, love it! You'll look great.

Oh no, grumpy, poor you. Not me me me at all. at your DH, what a horrible thing to say especially when the whole point is that you're struggling anyway. Do you think he meant to upset you or was he trying to brush it off and make you feel like it was trivia so in his mind helping you 'get over it', iyswim? Men (boys) do struggle with some emotional stuff sometimes; what was he like / how did he cope last time? Big hug. Have a virtual G&T immediately.