May 09 - weather and jabs = hot cross babies

[Momino]

hope i'm not duplicating

How wierd, did a post and it hasn't appeared!

Tum glad your DD is ok now, must be a relief for you all

Dandy and fI certainly didn't mean to cause any offence re bugaboos, its just like you've said that everyone has different tastes. One of the things I don't like about them is that round here it seems like they are a status symbol - ie. you aren't a proper mum if you don't have one... I had a comment from a friend of a friend along the lines of 'oh couldn't you afford a bugaboo' , when actually we did try one out but decided we liked the Hauck system we ended up buying more! (sorry if not good english, had 2 hours sleep last night )

Talking of sleep, god last night was a nightmare. Bought some different colic drops (dentinox?) and don't think they agree with A - we had wriggling, groaning and arching almost all night last night, along with almost constant rooting for the boob. DH managed to get her to sleep about 2am so I managed 2hrs kip while he walked around the house with her Typically she is now peacefully asleep in the bjorn on my chest Might have to venture out in the rain to buy some more infacol as that seemed to work ok (and doesn't smell like gherkins!)

HV is coming today for A's 6 week check, am hoping she may have gone over 10lbs as she was 9lb13 on Friday at the GPs 6 week check and she has been eating like a demon ever since. Why do I feel like I'm being tested/judged when they come out?

Ses hope the visit for O goes ok today.

Really dark and rainy here, not sure what to do with myself.

morning all.
tum! glad DD's ok, keep us posted and hope the rest of you are ok.

hope all others ok and having a good morning. RMonkey and Pula, hopeyou're not too tired and that HV visit goes well.

It's raining here and i have 2 DDs playing with play doh quietly, Harper ready to be picked up and fed. then, we're off into town to post a few more ebay parcels and buy some hair slides promised for DD1&2 (girls, sigh).

Morning!

tummum I hope your dd is/stays better, that was a pretty nasty temperature!

ses hope all goes/went(?) well at the hospital.

Momino ds also fusses at the breast when he's tired too - cries and 'asks' for a feed and then totally dones't want it - it was very frustrtaing but now I've worked that out, life is much easier! In fact dd did too, but ds feeds much faster, a bit like belgian's dd, so I had been thinking he wasn't feeding enough but it seems he just drinks it faster. But I do have leaky boobs so I wasn't worrying about lack of milk I guess. Anyway, I hope you're not worrying too much. Some babies are just skinner than others, surely? On the subject of leaks, I have just discovered that horror of horrors I've completely run out of breast pads. It's a public holiday in Belgium today so absolutely no shops are open. Not quite sure what I am going to do, might just resign myself to it, wear old clothes and wash everything afterwards [yucky sour milk-smelling emoticon].

On the plus side, yesterday I picked up a toddler swing bought second hand from someone in our mum & baby group, and dd LOVES it. The possibility to stay at home instead of doing actual trips out suddenly opens up!

I think Fi mentioned buggy boards and I have been meaning to those of you who've used them - is it really a good idea? I'm sure it would make life much easier but am worried that I won't be able to make dd stand on it. How does that work - or do you just need a cooperative toddler (err, do those exist ?) I think Fi your ds is a bit older, isn't he? My dd is going to be 2 in a couple of weeks, has a very strong will of her own, and is curently very clingy and wants to be carried everywhere which is why I'm worried! At the moment I have to forcibly strap her in the puschair before putting ds in the sling but it's all a bit unwieldy and I'd love to put him in his pram and just 'get out and go' with her on the board. It's quite an investment if we're not going to use it though - don't know how much in the UK but here they're 80 euros which is pretty steep.

By the way I must own up to total bugaboo jealousy . We have a similar but cheaper travel system and it's just not lasting long enough, the handle is almost broken and then I will be stuck . Plus I am now admitting to myself that in fact I just am a middle class ponce and thus a bugaboo is the pushchair to have .

OK, feeding time! Till soon.

dandy glad I can still be in your gang despite the bugaboo difference! I do like to new bees though.

We have a Mutsy lite and its not everyone's cup of tea either.

tum glad your DD is better.

ses don't worry about this weight gain thing. O has done really well to put on a pound so he's def going in the right direction. If it helps DS1 went down to the 2nd centile and stuck there till he was 12 weeks old. He was 11lb1oz at 12 weeks and put on a pound in a week so was 12lb at 13 weeks so only reached the 9th centile at that point. He grew steadily then and is now distinctly average on the 50th. So just because O is on the 2nd now, does not mean he will stay there and if he does, but continues to grow and put on weight gradually, well I personally think thats ok. Still, I'm no expert and the hosptial will be able to talk to you about it. Let us know how you get on.

running this sleep deprivation is a killer. Hope you manage to get some catch up today. Stay off MN for a start and go get your head down.

DS1 at nursery today so it feels like a bit of a "day off" with just Rufus here! So am heading out to meet a couple of pals for coffee in a bit. One had twins 3 weeks ago and she already has 2 kids of 4 and nearly 2 ( both in nursery today too!) and one is due to have her second in 4 weeks. WOnder what we'll be talking about????

Ses and Dandy hope all goes well today.

Tummum glad your lo is feeling better. We had a letter yesterday that there is Swine Flu at ds1's nursery. My sil is due to give birth any day I'm just hoping that if we catch it we don't pass it on to her!

On the other hand its my birthday to day and I have celebrated by cleaning the bathroom . Still DH and I are going out straight after work for some food and my mum is looking after both boys (1st time out on our own since ds2 was born). There's virtual chocolate cake for all who would like

Ses Sorry I must have been typing when you posted. I really don't want to worry you but I'd wholeheartedly advise against accepting the hospital referral if O is gaining. I had to go with DD1 because she was a failure to thrive baby and for almost a year she was subject to invasive tests and terrifying prognoses when there was absolutely nothing wrong with her. I'm a huge believer now that weight is only one component of development. If O is happy, feeding well, pooing & peeing and hitting development milestones then the weight gain is secondary to all of that.

Tummum what a night! You must have been so worried. I hope she is better.

Ses Personally I'd go for the referral but be very assertive. I cna't understand why they are so obsessive about weight gain.

jennster yes, it is indeed a twuntmobile but we aren't twunts.

dandy don't panic, it will all be fine. How can the appeal be overturned unless they tell you at the appeal that it could be overturned?

lillypadz I think I've got some somewhere that haven't been used. I'll have a look and if I find them someone is welcome to them. I too have non-leaky norks.

virtual chocolate cake yes please

daizydoo Happy birthday!

euromum my toddler is 2.8 and he has used a buggy board with his childminder. We don't have one as I can't find one to fit a quinny but he uses a balance bike. The downside is that he is scarily proficient on it but the upside is that we have some very brisk walks! I think you can get a balance bike from age 18 months onwards.

Right, off to dig out my Davina DVD as DS1 is out for the day. I sent him out to the inlaws armed with alcohol hand-gel. I think I may be a little more paranoid about pig flu than I thought.

I really must take DS2 to be weighed soon. He hasn't been since his 6 week check and he is now nearly 12 weeks.

happy birthday daizydoo

we've decided to give mum and baby group a miss today cos of the pouring rain and M v.snotty and unsettled poor thing she's really struggling today - thank god for saline drops and calpol
she's been feeding on and off all morning probably more for comfort than anything else

HV has been and S is still gaining weight (now 12lb 12.5oz at 10 weeks) but his weight gain is slowing down a bit so around 50% line now.

HV is coming for another home visit in a month's time after her hols. I guess with me being depressed and S being a bit unsettled still she wants to check up on me! She is very nice though so it's good to see her, but i do feel like i'm being assessed...

Right! Davina DVD done and dusted and now I can't move. I'm doing the Power of 3 workout and can only get through the warm-up and legs bums and tums before giving up. I'm not managing it 3 times a week either!

Lots to do today. I've got to clean the floor as the NCT mob are coming tomorrow. I'm not going to bother tidying up the toys as the toddlers will soon pull everything apart anyway! Still got to figure out what to do for lunch for them all though. Am very tempted to do a big saucepan of soup with homemade bread (breadmaker) as this might well be the cheapest and easiest way. What do you think? I've also got to do some paperwork for the business. I've set up a spreadsheet but I think I've messed up the calculations because it doesn't see to total correctly. Grr.

well back from hv clinic and as i'd hoped it was quiet.. g is now 13lbs 10.5oz at 8.5wks and still following her 98th line so chuffed with my boobs.. definitely working no prob now i'm hoping the lilypadz last a bit longer than the 2months the box says. i only leak with my let down but i like the fact that i don't end up with a creased soggy disposable pads when i've forgotten to take spares out with me. i will buy another set when the time comes that these lose their stick.. i know they're not cheap but i deserve the odd luxury right?!

fi - i figure i spend £5 or more per month on breastpads so the lilypadz aren't much different in price - I think i will keep a look out on ebay for cheap ones. When i'm in the house i tend to collect milk in breastshells to use for bottle feeds (usually around 4oz a day leaks out) so will just use these when out and about and at night (although i will have to see how effectively they work).

happy birthday daisydoo hope you have a great day and night out

btw absolutely no offence taken about my bugaboo round here they are not v popular when we got ours for ds there were very few prams that had all the things i wanted a pram to do... in comparison to the choice these days...

eurom my ds will be 3 in a few weeks time and i'd wondered if he would be ok on the buggy board. I bought a 2nd hand bibi swiss strolli just in case he didn't want to stand. He loves either of them but we use the board the most although when shopping i do wish he was still strapped in a pram so i can browse longer! I have to have him in reins when we go shopping or he's off at every available opportunity!!

You have quite a few options for younger lo's... these are the links for the ones i researched before getting what we have. You're right they're not cheap but much cheaper than a double buggy

The Tug
Buggypod Smorph
Buggy board Maxi

bugaboo options
Buggy board
Twoo seat adaptor

Happy birthday DAISY. Hope you are being spoilt.

TUM scary evening for you. Hope all is well with you all today.

LLARE am most impressed at your workout. Hope you're now sitting down with your feet up and a cuppa in hand to recover .

We're off to the doctors soon. B's appointment (finally) here to check out his tummy troubles. Then we have his second jabs - am slighty unsure whether to go ahead as he has sneezed a few times this morning . I think I have a cold coming as have been blowing my nose a few times today. Am fairly certain it's not going to be the dreaded SF as I always get the most hideous throats ever with bad colds / flu etc whereas just annoying throats (as now) with colds.

just found this buggyboard/seat too a brand new type just out... kidsit

llare i'm worn out reading about your davina workout!! the maxi buggyboard if you're still thinking of one is supposed to fit lots of quinny models... well the buzz, freestyle, speedi & zapp

reggie good luck with the jabs... it's only if lo has a high temp they don't get them here.. colds they just ignore

Fi I have heard your links praised before but not yet been the lucky recipient - what a brilliant lot of ideas! I'd never seen most of them before so will do some serious thinking as there are some good options there. Obviously at first sight I like all the expensive ones most .

Happy birthday daizy, I hope you have a lovely day and evening out (v v - it was our anniversary yesterday and I made nice dinner to make up for not getting out - then had to bf ds until it was cold and dh was fed up! It was nice enough anyway, fortunately!).

OK had better do some useful things while ds sleeps.

right off to the doc's to get grace's eczema checked out. hopefully they'll be running to time today or ds will climb the walls again..

Daizy - happy birthday

Euro - I use a bubbyboard with DD2 (who is nearly 3) and sold it to her by saying that it was a skateboard.

Reggie - hope the jabs go OK

Well it looks like DD2 has SF for sure, so she is on Tamiflu (hidden in nutella - cruel mummy that I am!). Ladies, if the diagnosis is true, it really is nothing to worry about as it's just like having a nasty cold. G is being really grumpy today, which is unlike him, so I suspect he is coming down with it also. Will just have to wait and see. In some ways I feel relieved because we're getting it over and done with before holiday and I can stop worrying about it now! I am very grateful that DH was unexpectedly home to help out and for us to make joint decisions about what to do next.

glad the links were helpful euro they're due to living in a lovely but very limited place as far as shopping choice goes and not being in the mood to trail ds into bristol 20miles away if i can avoid it

Hi all .
Daizy, happy Birthday, hope you have a great day. Yes please, send me some virtual cake.

Fi, well done on G's weight gain. Am so of these big babies.

reggiee, hope jabs go ok and tummy probs a bit clearer.

blotted, after reading your post for ses, i do agree with you. we were referred to paediatric care even though by then, dd1 was gaining. she had to go through 3 cystic fibrosis tests in 5 months(her bad eczema caused conflicting results)even though it was obvious she didn't have the disease, eg, was gaining, no chest/breathing probs, immune system good etc. but i think once they started her case, they wanted to follow through to be 100% certain. it was a pita.

tummum, good way of thinking to get SF out of the way now. Hope your dd2 isn't too miserable.

pula, how are you feeling? meds seem to be helping? hope all is well.

euro, we have a buggy board for dd1 which she used from when she was 2.5. it did take her some time to get used to. but i do think each child is different. I llareggub's idea of a balance bike.

about BF, still can't work out Harper's needs. for her 2nd feed today, she'd just woken up from a nap (so shouldn't have been tired), it had been 3 hours from her last feed so she should have been hungry. yet, she took a little then came off and cried, tried again etc. i took her off to wind her and only a little burp came up. so I put her back on again and more fussiness leading to fully crying. so i then put her down for about 15 minutes after she'd calmed down and I changed dd2. after all that, i put her on the boob and she fed fine for 20 min. do you think my flow is too fast maybe and that frustrates her? it's the only thing I can think of that would cause her to act like that. belgian, what do you think?

Momino It sounds to me like your let down could be too much for H. What about when you know she is nearly due a feed instead of offering wait until she is asking for it. Sometimes I feed R because its time or we need to go out soon but he feeds much better when he is really asking for it. He also feeds really quickly off one side then has a 20 min or more break and has a slower, comfort feed off the other boob.

Ses I hope appointment is ok today. My DD was a very petite baby and stayed just above the 9th but dropped to the 2nd at one point. She is now 50th at 20months but is still petite as she is tall. DS is 75th for height and weight and is the same weight as DD was at 22 weeks. They are all different and just because O was born at 75th doesn't mean he should follow that line he might follow the 9th like my DD and catch up later.

We are going to a 3rd birthday party this afternoon so very exciting. DD and DS are both having naps now. Euromum both mine are great sleeper as well thank goodness. Whenever they have a wakeful night it nearly kills me and I don't know how parents do the sleepless night thing for years.

Daisy Happy birthday. I have had 2 pieces of non virual chocolate cake in honour .

I am eating like a beast at the moment. I'm so hungry and am having huge meals. When I look at how big DS is I feel justified in my hunger and I am still losing weight I think. Thank goodness for BFing. Luckily as DD is always around I can't snack on crap otherwise I'd have to give her it as well so that saves me a few calories.

Oh God.

I live in a cul-de-sac. The neighbours are usually out all day so I'm a bit blase about walking around with my norks out when feeding DS2.

Next door are having work done and I've just accidentally flashed my norks at the workman.

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