July 09 - Sore ladybits and melons for tits! [grin]

[Quiltedrose]

Ok so there's only 2 of us so far but felt duty bound as the first July delivery to start the thread off!

'Pop' in when you're ready!!

hiya folks, great to be able to finally post here! my beautiful son zach arrived on tuesday morning, 530am ish right onto my sil's bathroom floor! he is 6lb 4 oz and just so fab. we were only in hospital for one night and he has settled well at home. ds1 seems to be ok too, he likes to stroke zach and give him toys awwwwwwww.

i'll post properly later but just wanted to say hi! congrats to everyone too xxx

Hi everyone!
Sorry I've been so slow to get here, but life's just been a bit hectic.
DS1 has just finished primary school ,
DS2 had a birthday ,
DS3 just had end of term madness
Oh yes and DS4 has taken up rather a lot of time too
Life has been one long round of sports days, breastfeeding, children's parties, breastfeeding, BBQs, breastfeeding, assemblies, breastfeeding......you get the picture!

Congrats ilikeyoursleeves I read your birth story on the other thread. Wow!

Alfie has been screaming all day. very unlike him Took him to drs in the end (always a last resort in htis house as they usually make me feel like a c* parent) and he agreed something wasn't right thinks hemay have an ear infection but can't check properly as his ears are so little. He has given him calpol and aniti-biotics and if he continues this eve to take him straight to hosp.
Thanksfully he has finally gone to sleep....
Welcome to the new mums to join us
jlo2 your days sound like mine...
missp DH never uses all his holiday as is a bit of a workaholic so it's nice to see him for a change (although admittedly sometimes I think it would just be easier if he was out the house - another person = more work)

hello - ytping with one had

dd1 has not been well last 2 days and i ended up ring the flu pandemic line tonight! She has been authorised the anti - virals - tamiflu. it could just be a bad cold in my opinion but what would u have done
?

hot to touch/red in face
diarreha (sp?)
cough
sore throat (croaky voice )
very snotty nose
being quiter than is usual - mum knows when ill kind of thing

she is only 3.6

anyway got the tablets from a local place and she's started them. they said even if not full blown flu then she won't be harmed by tablets and it is very inlikey she would get swine flu if this isn't it already as she would build up resistance.

spoke to primary care about LO n they said she could have the anti virals too but i didn't want her to have them uneccessarily and dr agreed as only 4wks old, got to keep close eye as she stared coughin 2 days ago and is a bit warm but is eating fine etc not crying.

phew, i'm not too worried tho n hopefully its just a cold for both of them.

hi, sorry to hear your dc's are poorly gillyan and queenfee, i hope they get better soon! welcome to new mums also!
been having a bit of a nightmare time with bill. in the evenings when feeding he's getting reall angry and restless when feeding from me. last night was so bad he was awakw constant feeding but squirming and crying as though he was cross from 12 til 4! i thought maybe colic but he's not crying in between feeds...any ideas? my nipples are so sore from teh squirming i had to give him 2 oz in a bottle earlier which made me sad

That sounds nightmarish lydia is he trying to poo or have trapped wind maybe? Maybe he doesn't really want feeding and doesn't kow what to do with himself, maybe he's tired? Summer has been behaving a bit like that with her bottle from 6pm - midnight evry night. She feeds fine in the day, has a whole bottle at regular intervals and then the 6 ish bottle - she only takes an oz then falls asleep, put her down, wakes up screaming. Give the bottle again and she's squirming and spluttering, feeds every 2 hrs only taking 1 or 2oz, she faffs until about 11/12 then goes down for a few hrs. I thought maybe she is just tired as tends to sleep all mornings and early fternoon then stay awakes from about 3/4 - 11/12 with only little tiny 'noddings off' in between.

???

Alfie is better now - yay!

Sorry gillyan sounds like a nightmare.

lydia Alfie gets like that when he has wind he wants a feed but keeps fussing and squirming till he brings it up. I am doping him up on infacol and gripe water. Once he does get the full feed he settles so is happy in between IYSWIM hope it gets better for you soon x They also act like this a lot when they have a cold?

Hello everyone...its taken me ages to find the time to post. Baby Max is doing well and he is just soooo cute. He is feeding constantly and not sleeping much at night but I suppose thats to be expected. In fact he has kicked off again now so I think thats me and I will try to post a bit more tomorrow.

Gillyan, I hope all is ok with you and yours and Queenfee, I am gals Alfie is better. Sorry everyone, havent had a chance to read the other posts but will try again tomorrow xxxx

mispella thanks for advise on tongue tie, after talkin to my mum about it she thinks I maybe I had it altho it was never noticed. I had probs with my speech n I feel it affected my confidence so don't want him to have probs too, kids can be so cruel!

Gillyan hope DD1 is better soon. Joseph's Dad has got swine flu and his symptoms are the same as you've described but yes it is very similar to regular flu but with sickness and diarrhea(?)

lydia is Bill pooing ok? Joseph often does his poos when he is feeding and he also squirms and gets mad whilst he's doin it, it's worse when he's constipated tho.

sleeves huge congrats! I can't wait to read your birth story, I'm intrigued to hear about your SIL's bathroom floor?!?!

I think I may be starting with post natal depression . Part of me is still really happy n I really do love Joseph to bits, I wouldn't change him for the world but over the past couple of days I just keep crying all the time. I also feel like I'm getting really paranoid. Last night I put Joseph in the car at 1.30am and drove 20 miles to my ex's house cos I was convinced that he was
there with another girl! I have absolutely no reason to think that what so ever but cos he'd not replied to a text my mind got carried away with itself. Just typing this I know that I sound like a weirdo n I don't like it .
I've asked his Dad for some more support so his answer was for Joseph to go and stay with him for a few days! I've told him there is no way I could let him stay over night yet, he's only seen him 3 times so Joseph doesn't know him well enough n when he wakes in the night he wont know where he is and he's gonna want his Mum. We've come to a compromise that we'll both stay at his one night but I'm gonna go out with my friend so he has some time alone with him n hopefully a night out will do me some good.

hunny ((hugs)) PND is horrible. Talk to your HV. Mine (for once!) was really supportive when I went through a difficult patch with DS1. They may be able to point you in the direction of some support too. Have you been in contact with the likes of Gingerbread (single parents) and Parentline?
I always think it helps to have contact with other people when you feel like this. A friend of mine had PND which was only diagnosed when she 'saw' her DP have a car crash in front of her when in fact he was fine. It does tend to come out in strange ways.
patchy don't worry this thread is definately slower than the antenatal thread!

Hi everyone, finally found some time to post Connor was 2wks yesterday and he has fitted into the family so well, the dd's love him to death So far is pretty relaxed and not at all fazed by the noise and general chaos that comes with being dc3 He was jaundice until day 5 so not feeding well at all and when he did feed, destroyed my nipples by being too sleepy to do it properly. So I have been expressing with a Medela electric pump I've hired. Made life so much easier, as dh and dd1 help out with feeds and my nips have had time to heal. I don't know if these are sold in the UK but I've found Rite Aid Hydrogel Breast Discs wonderful for my sore nips. They are gel pads that sit closest to your breast, and you can wear them with a normal breast pad as well. Definitely really helped with the cracking and engorgement. I'm going to try bf again this week I think, engorgement has calmed down now and I'm expressing close to 100ml each side so usually have around 2-3 feeds extra in the fridge, so hopefully my milk has kept up with what ds needs.
dh has had the last 2wks off and goes back to work on Wed. Has been lovely having him home, I haven't actually bathed ds yet, dh does it twice each day Freezer is full of meals he has cooked, haven't done any school or nursery runs or gymnastics for dd1 or grocery shopping. There is still the extra mess that another adult creates and we've spent more money than we would normally but it's been a really nice bonding time for all of us, so I've relaxed on the other things as I'll be stressed out on my own before I know it

morning, had a slightly better night last night. basically put bill on the breast and when he really started to fuss gave him some formula which he took, but i hated giving. have had to express this morning as my boobs were so full and engorged!
gillyan i think you're right in not wanting feeding but not sure what they want because when he really started fussing again i gave up lay down n bed ith hima nd just cuddled and he went straight to sleep at about 2. woke up at half 4 had 5/10 min on the boob when he started fussing took him off and gave him a cuddle and he went to sleep again. the only problem with this is that my partner is afraid of co-sleeping in case he rolls on him!
queenfee we're using infacol too, although the reason i dont think its trapped wind is that he is consyantly farting with or without the infacol, even more so when he feeds its constant farting!
hunney his poohing is fine, we've yet to have a nappy that hasnt got some poo in it!
im sorry you're feeling poo about your ex, talk to your health visitor or someone you can trust x x

hunny make sure u speak to a HV or go and see the doc straight away if u are feeling like this. Be reasurred it won't last forever if it's the baby blues but if it's more seroius u just need to talk to the docs etc. Hope you're ok - I know I say this all the time and it doesn't matter what anyone tells u but f@*k your ex!

lydia glad he's calming down for you, I would be scared of co sleeping too...It takes me ages to wake up when Summer is crying in the night, Simon gets there first most of the time and then he ends up doing the middle of the night feed cos I just don't stir quick enough. I'd probably roll on her and never hear a thing!!

Had to take Summer to Primary Care this morning, she has got swine flu/bad cold ( whatever ) she is SO snotty, I mean she honestly could hardly breathe last night and she hasn't been feeding at all well, only having an oz at a time etc. Doc checked her over and her chest is clear and no high temp so not too worried, he said she sounds so rattly becuase her nose is so gungy - got saline drops to help and I am literally pulling stuff out with my nails, her eyes are all watery and she's sleeping a lot more than usual -poor mite can't even ave calpol yet. Grace still under the wetaher and me too, throat still very sore and cough is getting worse. Simon is fine tho luckily.

Hope everyone else is ok.

hunny def speak to your HV. felt awful after birth of DD1 but never really acknowledged it for ages. Hard times. Get as much support as you can, it makes all the difference.

Gillyan have you tried using one of those crazy "snot suckers"? Had one for DD1 (can go through the steriliser) it's a poky bit that goes in their nose and a tube with non return valve and you literally suck the snot out of their nose but cos of the valve you don't end up with it anywhere you don't want! Was really helpful for DD1 as she started teething really early (4 weeks!) and was mentally snotty every time.

Am using a mac and the smilies don't seem to work for me. Will try and put a link in to boots website for it.

www.boots.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?categoryParentId=3908&storeId=10052&productId =118420&callingViewName=&categoryId=3909&langId=-1&catalogId=11051

otherwise just cut and paste the web address into your browser.

Hurray it worked!

Hi Ladies - v quick post as the little man has just decided to wake for his dinner!

All good here, v tired and may have had s-flu...only mild round here but lots of cases so no idea if it was or not (had all the symptoms listed except the upset tummy). DD been off colour all week, hubby poorly but DS fine except for a bit of snot!

DS is now a whopping 9lb at 3 weeks! Not bad seeing as he was only 7lb5oz when born He feeds like a pro and is sleeping really well (touch wood!!!) been ok'd for going to baby clinic now instead of home visits from HV. Aced my PND questionnaire but have to see them straight away if I start to feel wobbly

My 1st day alone with the 2 of them tomorrow and feeling really shaky about it! At least we can to go to bf support in the morning and DD can have a play there Tuesday is nursery morning, Weds is my ladies lunch day (3 mums, 3 two year olds, and 2 babies!) Thursday is baby clinic and play dates, Friday is play at the children's centre - not sure where I fit the housework and shopping in though!!

Hope all are well and that babies are behaving themselves!

xxx

alibobble yes I've seen them and my SIl had one, think I'll have to order one! Thanks for the reminder.

activity sucks it out with her mouth!!!!! OMG, thats gross but made me laugh! Sorry Sid is crying a lot, has he got colic then? I heard boys are worse than girls for it, my friends little boy had it in the evenings but he stopped now at 8 wks. Hope it passes for u!

Summer has drunk a good amount 3 times i a row now so not too worried about her. I'm keeping Grace off nursery till Wed and just letting her chill.

becca Swine flu - very mild round here I think to, I just feel like I've got a cold, I've had -

Sore throat/croaky voive
Sudden cough
Upset tum
slight temp a few days ago

I actually feel worse today but it's still not knocking off my feet, I've had a proper dose of flu a few yrs ago and that was bad, I was in bed for 10 days until I managed to get a taxi to the docs ( 5mins away) to deal with the throat infection that went with it, truely horrid - NHS Direct lady that I spoke with on Fri night said it's no where near as bad as the proper flu and very mild in most cases.

Hope u all feel better soon

Thanks everyone for your support, the good news is I feel a lot better today, so maybe it was just a little wobble I had. I think I just need to keep an eye on it cos I've suffered with depression in the past which I suppose is a good thing cos it means at least I can recognise the symptoms.

health visitors - how often am I supposed to see one? One came over a week ago but because I am 'outside her area' because I am registered at a GP near my old address (about 3 miles away) so I am just over the boundaries of her area by about a mile so she is transferring me to a HV from my area. But honestly you would think by the way she was going on about it that she'd had to come 30 miles to see me, she just went on and on about how she doesn't usually cover this area, I felt like saying 'oh for f* sake it's only down the frigging road!'. Anyway since that visit I've not heard anything from anybody so not sure what is going on, think I may have slipped through the net.

snot Joseph has been really snotty and snuffly since he was a few days old, I've tried picking his bogies out with my nails or cotton wool bud but doesnt work so think I might have to got one of those snot sucker things too. Will it also suck out a nice crusty bogie? lol

Congrats to the new mummies - lovely to see more and more arrivals.

lydia glad to hear things getting better - with DD1 she used to do the on-off-screaming thing with feeding, until I realised that sometimes she was just tired and too young to know that boob isn't always the answer to everything! I used to find giving her to DP helped - she'd yell for 5 mins and then, away from the tempting smell of me and milk, would conk out for hours.

co-sleeping if anyone wants to do it but their DP is worried about rolling on them, you can always put the baby on the other side of you (so you're the physical barrier) or a very firm pillow if you need to swap sides if feeding lying down. Oh, and make sure they haven't smoked/drunk any alcohol/taken any drugs, prescription or otherwise! My DP was paranoid about that for ages - he'd sleep on the sofa if he'd even had one glass of wine. At least we have a spare bed now.

Going for a bra-fitting tomorrow - desperate to replace my original ones from 3 years ago cos they're completely knackered from over-use and lazy laundry practises and I just feel the need for something, well, less grey...

Found it!!! I am here and loving it but really really sore.

Samuel Peter Leopold was born 24th july at 2:14am and he weighed 8lb 7oz, posted birth story on other thread. Will catch up when i can going for a bath with stitches so wish me luck xx

Hoorah, I am hands free! Max is asleep and at last I get a chance to post again!!! We had an awful day yesterday, he just wouldn't settle and by the evening I was so exhuasted. We were supposed to go to friends for a bbq but I just couldn't face it. Anyway, decided to try the dummy again and it worked..he loved it! The other 2 dc never had them and sucked their fingers instead but I suppose different kids.

He is such a milk monster that I think that 1/2 the time he is sucking on an empty boob? I don't quite know what to do about it. We have started him on a 10pm bottle of formula just to give me a break as otherwise 1 feed finishes and another begins. The bottle fills him up and he sleeps for 4 hours which means I get some sleep at least as the rest of the night is so unsettled.

Anyway, I hope you are all ok. Had a look at the list and there aren't many more to come are there....lots more boys than girls!

xx

Hi everyone

I am glad to hear (well not glad but you all KWIM?) that some of your LO's get fractious late afternoon/early evening. We are having the same thing here. DS doesn't really take a dummy so has been using me as one. Day before yesterday I had to give him some EBM earlier than usual as nipples too sore to deal with constant feeding. That settled him thankfully for a bit. I felt a bit crap about it as I am only wanting to give him one bottle of EBM a day until we hit the 6/8 week milestone (IF we make it that is....) which DH currently gives around 11:30/midnight so I can get 4 hours sleep in. Nevermind I guess.

Cosleeping too scared to do myself. DS currently is in a moses basket right next to me (hits side of my bed) so I figure that is close enough. I find I always tend to wake about 5min before he starts to stir himself. Very strange as the time changes every night but I always manage to wake just before he does.

Hunny good thing you are keeping an eye on PND. I had a dose of it when DD was born and spent the first 4 months of her life just crying and not socialising. I found coping hard and had bizarre thoughts. I do think it was caused by bf being a struggle and adjusting from 1 to 2 DC's. I hope you don't get it but if you do get help early.

Adjusting from 2 to 3 how are you ladies finding it? I am going ok so far and feel way more relaxed than when adjusting from 1 to 2 DC's. I guess I just accepted early on it would be hard and have set myself no goals this time to be supermom.

Well I am off to yet another bf group to see if they can help more with these pinched nipples. Thank goodness I bought these Silverettes. I can't praise them enough.

patchybob DD2 grizzles from 4-8/10pm every day too so makes evening quite hard work. DD also sucking on empty boobs but at least it makes more for the next day. DD1 used to give up and consequently milk supply was rubbish! Am aiming to introduce a 10pm bottle of formula eventually and keep feeding rest of the time as eventually I might even want to be able to go out in an evening and esier to leave a bottle for babysitter eg my mum than leave at 7pm having put dd1 to bed and be back by 10pm to feed dd2! not much of an evening out!

co-sleeping and rooming in am currently sleeping in dd2's room rather than having her in our room so am in the spare bed so only me to squash her as DH so far has never woken to sound of either DD1 or DD2 calling out! (I on the other hand wake a few mins before DD2 wants feeding (maybe huge boobs are like an alarm clock?!) and wake the second dd1 makes a meep from her room. So annoying. I'm like a radar! DD2 was really hard to settle last night despite feeding well in the night. Very windy I think but hey.

Anyone else find that DH/DP well meaning but a bit hopeless in some respects? Yesterday and this morning needed a nap so DH was looking after DD1 but a few mins after I got into bed I was joined by DD1 saying "can I snuggle with you mummy?" WHERE DOES HE THINK SHE IS IF HE'S NOT LOOKING AFTER HER?Bugging me, that's where!

Sorry, feeling a bit wobbly about dh going back to work on Wed. He might be a bit daft but at least he's been there and made breakfast etc. How am I simultaneously going to feed DD1 breakfast, feed me and feed DD2 all at the same time? (on a few hours sleep?!)

xxhunnyxx Not sure how you would contact your local health visitor. Did other woman leave any contact numbers? Did you get a midwife out of hours/help line number on the front of your post natal notes? Our local midwives are apparently very helpful if you ring up and maybe they can point you in the right direction? Or perhaps a call to the surgery that the HV is based at? Sounds like you might have had a lucky escape that other woman NOT being your HV. Dreadful. Hope you find out soon. Being out of area seems to fox the NHS no end. Happened when I was discharged from hospital as was out of area there and they were funny about it all and wouldn't give me a red book etc. Had to wait for community midwife to give it.

Sorry for monster post. Won't have as much time to post in a few days.