July 09 - Sore ladybits and melons for tits! [grin]

[Quiltedrose]

Ok so there's only 2 of us so far but felt duty bound as the first July delivery to start the thread off!

'Pop' in when you're ready!!

Aargh Jlo2 I saw those scary ladies on the weaning thread too.Put the fear of god into me.Thank goodness everyone on this thread is so kind, loving and supportive, I would have taken a look andnever come back if anyone had been as mean to me as they were to that poor woman. What nasty people!

Quiltedrose hadn't thought about people ringing the doorbell and waking Max up at halloween.Oh no! I have made a sign for my front door that I put up when he sleeps during the day (no I am not totally anal, his bedroom is right by the front door!!) ! telling people not to ring the door bell. it works really well as it would have rung every day for the past 3 days with deliveries and everything was just left by the door!! Hoorah!

Queenfee I will have a look at h and M, I didn't realise that they did bf tops as well as maternity.

Sleep well to you all and the babies!

alibobble It sounds like you're a perfect mum, trying to do what's right for your baby rather than listening to what other folk tell you is right.

I remember whilst pregnant being told to lie on your left side, to ease delivery, & to keep active etc., did all of those things only to find that James couldn't descend in labour maybe due to riding in late pg & strong perineal area and then was back to back (yes, that which the exercises were supposed to stop) So, maybe shouldn't have heeded the "advice".

I too will give James solids when I feel the time is right, when I feel he needs more than milk.

Quiltedrose Your comment re halloweeners tickled me I too will be very if they disturb James!!

LargeGlassOfRed My health visitor also said to use my common sense regarding weaning. Interesting that they may be reconsidering current advice. Really not looking forward to 3rd jabs. Though realise they're essential, feel that they do have an impact and my instincts tell me not to deliberately harm my LO & find it hard to concede to the vaccination rules. So torn really and am told that the 12 month one is a particularly nasty concoction (by a GP friend!!) Not to mention the MMR. DS2 has the MMR but that doesn't stop me feeling nervous about it especially since James has been so affected by the jabs given so far. Completely aware of the official stance, but am I naive to think that if parents feel that their child was altered following the MMR, then they probably were?! After all, a parent knows their child best and the government initially denied any link between BSE and humans didn't they. Hmmmm....

Remember my DP put on a mask and scared our haloweeners, thinking that they were children, but the joke was on him as they were teenage girls and both he and they jumped out of their skins

So last night I finally got my internet to work again after a week of being without. I read through all your posts and added a pretty lengthy one... only to come back today and notice it NOT here . Darn computer!!

Hopefully everyone's baby's are feeling better. I, along with my 2 DDs, have had a rotten cold for the past week and am hoping that Marco will not get more than the stuffy nose he is currently suffering from.

I am hoping that Hallowee'en will be warm enough that I can put Marco in his pram and take him along Trick or Treating with my other DCs. He has a cute little spider costume thats warm enough to be a coat, so he should be ok. Hubby usually gives out the candy (and scares the pants off as many kids as possible with his scary costume, etc), and I usually take the kids out. My DH loves Hallowe'en. We decorate our house on the outside to look like a cemetery, we carve a pumpkin for every member of the family, scary music playing on the stereo... its a real production!!

As far as weaning goes, my older DCs were given rice cereal at 4 months, and thats what I plan to do this time as well. I don't think Marco will make it to 6 months to start solids. He is already starting to wake up more often at night for his feeds, as well as eating more often during the day. I tried giving him formula at night, and it doesnt make a difference. I even end up topping him up after BF at night since I seem to be less full.

Morning everyone
Baby Tristan weighs 17lbs 1oz at just under 16 weeks. He really is the biggest baby I have had.

He does no rolling but head quite strong so I reckon it is bumbo time. I kind of don't want to rush the stages with him too as he is my last baby.

That weaning thread ohhh, I had a nose at it and gladly did not post. I just don't understand why people get mean. Advice and recommendations are great (hence the reason most of us MN) but to get snarky is not called for. I stay out of the heated debates now (bf v ff and weaning v blw especially). Although I do have a selfish reason for putting off weaning - the poo's become stinkier.

Jetli sorry about your journey from hell. It is so hard to tune out when things are that manic.

Hi Ruby Qult Patchy Ali QF LGOR Gilly and anyone I missed.......DD is waking - she really is becoming a crazy 2 yr old; driving me bananas lately.

Must dash

hi, have also looked at that weaning thread and was a bit for the past few nights bill has been up every 30/40 min from 1.30. wont go back in his bed but wants feeding. im going to try him today on some baby rice as i am sooooooooooooo tired! ive been going to bed at 8.30!

i meet up with some ladies i met at aquanatal but stsrting to get a bit narked with one women, she texts me nearly every morning-7.30 am, asking how he slept then preceeds to tell me how her dc slept all the way through and what a horror bill is! starting to upset me...only im allowed to call him a horror!

tummytime unfortunately dont do much as it just makes him sick!

missp my 2.5dd is turning in to such a horror i nearly cried yesterday when out with above mentioned mummies, because of her behaviour! none of them have any other children so no experience asto how horrible toddlers can be!

have a good day everyone! x

Hi everyone.

lydia ooh annoying new matey baby woman! I hate those! Start ignoring her

weaning I tried for a few dyas but she now seems totally not interested so have stopped. Not sucking like mad on the spoon and it seemed to annoy her so I'll leave it again fir a bit, also she's gone back to normal times between feeds so maybe she was just having a growth spurt. *weening8 thread! Jesus, scary load of fanatics!! One rule for one doesn't alaways apply. All babies are different and need different things at different times. The only bit that makes ense to me is to try and get to 24 wks as Summer has such bad eczema dn the moremature her gut is the less likey she will develop allergies. I'm only going to try though if she wants feeding beofre that she will be fed.

screaming is still happening evry day but I seem to be able to stop her quite quickly now, she used to be contant anywhere she was and nod off and I've never had to rock her sleep etc or let her fall asleep pn me....it's all turned on it's head and I'm just having to! I'm quite hard faced and don't like to fuss them all the time becuase you just can't get stuff done but I have backed down and thought if this is whats he needs then sod the housework, appointment, plans etc. I think they go through some emotional changes about nowush, like not liking it when you leave the room etc, I never had this with Grace so didn't quite know how to deal with it. She id DEFo teething too so i think that coupled with the sudden need for lots of cuddles and the need to be soothed to sleep has been causing all my problems. Much better now

I'm full of a cold and feel like poo today.

Very excited as managed to get Simon to agree to go to Alton Towers on Sunday for the scarefest! He's never been on a rollercoaster and I have dared him. I love it!!!

at the competitive texting mummy Lydia!!! What a cheek! Just came on to say that really! Max waking up so will come on again later!

hi all. I am so intermittent, really sorry but I am still here!

DD has croup and sounds like darth vadar.

Oliver stopped sleeping through (11p, ish to 6 am ish) which he did for about 3 weeks (from about 8 wks - 11 wks) and now wakes at about 1 am (the absolute KILLER for me!) and 4.30 am. Interesting to read on here that others are finding the same sort of thing. Started swaddling him again yesterday and he went down MUCH easier and settled himself without me having to keep doing it. At 12 wks I'm sure hes too old for swaddling, but whatever works I say!

Lydia good luck with that. I have (sounds awful) had to shake off a few wannabe baby friends in the past too! Some people seem to not realise you have nothing in common, without wanting to be a bitch

Ruby I also HATE the jabs. Actually hate them. Hate the fact they are putting poisonous germs into my baby, hate the fact they hurt so much and can barely drag myself there! It's triumph of head over heart taking your own child for its jabs, isnt it!

hey everyone. I'm avoiding the weaning thread! Sounds scary. I remember being torn to shreads about bf v ff on here when dd1 was little. It was the current "Must do" thing then. Now it's weaning at 6mths. Speaking of which...

weaning dd2 LOVES her food and will suck practically anything off a spoon. have to be careful which bibs I put on for teething monster dribble or she gets excited! Unfortunately she's decided to cut out 10.30pm bottle from dh so knocked it on the head for a while. Am sure she'd takea feed from me but the point of him feeding her was to give me a rest. that said she's still poorly so struggling to feed from me. nasosal spray saving my life. Fab stuff....

jabs took dd2 today for set no 2 but she was too poorly and temperaturey for them to be given. Rescheduled for a week or so's time.

halloween I'm afraid we don't celebrate halloween in our house. I hate it. Felt sorry for dd as we finally made itto library story time the other day and it was the halloween one. oops!

jabs pt2 beware of scary stories etc regarding jabs. Did a microbiology degree around the time the mmr scare broke and got the insider info on the poor lack of evidence to back it all up etc and how he was paid to find the results he did etc. Measles is a particularly nasty disease. I hate the jabs but my LO will be stabbed when the time comes!

So I woke up to a house full of poorly children... husband included! We all seem to have the seasonal flu that is going around. I have been totally knackered all week. Hopefully it passes quickly. Marco has escaped the fever part and only seems to have the cold. He hates the snot-sucker and screams blue murder everytime we use it on him. But he is sooo stuffy he snores all day. It has thrown off his sleep as well. All he did was cat nap all day for 20 mins at a time, instead of his usual 4 hour mid-day nap. I got nothing done! The pile of laundry is going to bury me soon.

weaning 4 months is my goal before starting the cereal. We have no worries of food allergies, so hopefully it will go well for him.

swaddling Marco is 12 weeks old and is swaddled or he doesn't sleep. He is the master of escape, but it at least gets him down to begin with. My DD2 LOVED to be swaddled until she was a year old!

Activityapple, Gillyan I'm also trying to wait to wean but for me it's as I want to try baby led weaning - reading a book at the moment. But equally won't wait if Bea is telling me she wants food before then. However I am increasingly knackered with getting up in the night again for feeds, so it'll be a miracle if I last another 8 weeks even though I want to and I can feel the baby rice's eyes burning holes in my back so who knows?

Slow thread I hate it when the thread gets this big and takes ages to load. Having been whiling away a slow afternoon watching Little Princess and Ben and Holly with half an eye

and thinking up a title for our next thread, something like 'Feed that mush, pear and bean, we are the Weaning Queens!'

alibobble my dd who is also bf will only drink formula if it's almost too hot to drink - what's that all about? How hot do you think milk is when it comes out of your boobs?

Missp Am with you on the not wanting to rush the stages thing....it's almost bittersweet knowing you're not going to experience it again

everyone have a lovely weekend - let's hope for (a) nice weather (b) sleep (c) that we win the lottery (d) all of the above (delete as appropriate)

Hi everyone, re weaning, my two older dc have just been for tea at a friends house and both the mother and father are gp's. I got talking to them about early weaning and they were both advocates of doing it when the time is ready,in fact tried to get me to do it now! They seemed to think it was fine.

Interestingly the mother is also on the sussex pandemic body for swine flu and we spoke about that too. I asked her about the jab and whether she would recommend it for dd1 who has chronic asthma. She said definatly to have it and that she would recommend it to everyone, as swine flu is such a new thing we don't have any immunity to it, unlike normal seasonal flu that we all have some immunity to. Her 2 dc will have it even though they don't have asthma or any othe rproblems. It was interesting to talk to her.

We got back much later than normal and poor Max was beside himself desperate for bath and bed! I felt soooo sorry for him, poor little chap.

Off to a nearly new sale tomorrow so hope to pick up some bargins!

Babyblue3 hope you are all on the mend, forget the laundry and get better xx

Have a good evening everyone xxxxxx

activity i've found this coat but not sure how waterproof it is?

weaning I stopped feeding Alfie his porridge for 2 minutes the other day to see to other dcs and you would have thought he was being murdered he was very with me !Take it he's ready then. The more I speak to people about it the more I find that it's only a small minority who make it to 6 months.

have made a mental note to keep away from the nasty weaning thread

really looking forward to tomorrow as we are going out to celebrate our anniversary and also my mom is having the older 2 dcs for half term so I only have alfie till I go down on wed bring it on!

You're very brave venturing onto weaning threads on here, I made that mistake 3.5 years ago . If i notice one in active convos i might have a nose but i would never post on one.

morning all! well gave bill his frist lot of porridge last night and wolfed the lot down! he hten had a mad half hour bouncing in his chair like he was posessed giggling and cooing so think he was ready! he went down at 6.30 til 11 which is good. he's still feeding alot though in the night he was on from 2 til helf 3 my boobs are so sore i feel like ive been punched in them! growth spurt maybe?

halloween think we will now be in manchester visiting the inlaws, brought some sweets the other day for trick or treaters ho-humm i better eat them!

waterproofcoat my lovely sister brought me a leopard print rainmack from primark! its got a hood too i looove it! they have loads in their in nice colours and prints for £18.

competitivenewmummy was mean again yesterday so now ignoring her!

weaning forgot to ask, do you intorduce one meal at a time? i gave bill his at 5 so shall i carry on doing this for a week or so then introduce another? found an old annabel karmel (sp!) weaning recipe book, think it must have been for when my brother s were born 12 years ago, at my dads so have pinched that for ideas.

toddlereating ive noticed how little my dd eats. she isnt fussy but will only eat a few mouthfuls if that. she is very diddy for her age. this morning i made her toast which she only has a bite off and a few teaspoons of yoghurt, it seems to have got much worse since she was ill, not sure if i should have a word with hv as she's looking a bit more pale and skinny than usual!

queenfee have a lovely anniversary meal!

bottletemp on the few occasions bill has had one he's had to have it rather warm! same with his prridge last night.

gillyan have loads of fun at alton towers, its only about 45 min from me but not been able to go for ages i love it! i hope summer is ok too!

babyblue/alibobble/belgrano hope your dcs get better soon!

hello to everyone else and have a great weekend!

Morning all! Hope all the poorly folks are feeling better
Weaning - Hetty is showing no signs yet of wanting owt other than breast milk. Age-wise, we're teetering on the edge of the big 4 month growth spurt so I'm getting a bit nervous about that and all the cluster feeding. For weaning I'm going to get the Gill Rapley BLW book and have a look. The kids in the family that were Annabel Karmel'd have ended up being shit eaters - 2 of them are certainly not good with textures. So everyone was happy to rid themselves of their AK books my way! Hetty will dictate which way we go I guess
swine flu - thanks for the advice Patchybob- I'm going to have it as I'm asthmatic and I reckon we'll be TTC after Xmas. Best to get the jab out of the way.
housework - must get some time and some help this weekend. Our place is proper loppy and it's making my chest bad. If DP doesn't get his finger out and give me a hand then there's going to be a really major falling out here . Got fuck all barely anything done this week with screamy child - there's only so much I can do with the sling on. I can't seem to do "bending over" jobs very easily and also don't want to start spraying cleaning shite around when she's in front of me in the sling, so that leaves vacuuming and not a lot else. I really wouldn't give a monkeys normally, but it's that dusty it's making me wheeze now.
MIL/SIL - Both a pain in the bum - DP rang MIL this morning to see if we could pop over. She was banging on about being busy this morning because she had to go out to buy a lightbulb . Grrrr - I'd really rather not bother at all, but then she starts calling us to the rest of the family when she doesn't see DD. SIL hasn't seen DD since she was born but is recently without a boyfriend, so now she's all "I really must see my niece" - Gawd she gets on my tits nerves.
Anyway, I'll stop moaning now and go and get in the bath

QF have a great dinner. Happy anniversary.

Lydia compmummy should just be ignored. I had one of those in my life making such passive aggessive comments about DS1, I dreaded seeing her. Granted DS1 was a nightmare toddler but to hear someone else making bitchy comments about it did not help. I would always feel anxious and never had a great time. My advice - ditch her.

Jetli funny you mention your friends that did AK are fussy eaters as DS1 was brilliant with it. By 9months he was on finger food or just finely cut/chopped meals. DD on the other hand was half heartedly blw (she refused mashed food on the spoon so we went straight to finger food) and is the fussiest eater. She never tried half the things DS1 did as she would only eat food she could hold. On the other hand, it was easier to wean her as I didn't actually have to physically feed her myself much. That was a godsend when I was dealing with DS1. I think babies will like textures or not or be fussy eaters or not....not sure what I will do this time as I have tried both techniques.

I am also dreading the 4m growth spurt. Has Hetty started?

I finally got Tristan weighed and at 16 weeks he is 17lb 3 oz!!! My chubbiest baby yet. Must be all that peanut butter I eat.

Horrid day, going to hide under covers.

Good morning ladies

Well... Hubby is still sick and so now I have an extra child to care for . But DS1 (who is 10yrs)is much better. His temp was at 40 degrees Celcius most of the day yesterday, and finally broke this morning at 7am. Was beginning to think we would have to go to the hospital. Marco is better as well... not too stuffy, so aside from all the hacking coughs going on, looks like we are on the mend.

slow thread I agree we need a new one... but if we even mention weaning we may have the militants from the other thread come over hunt us down one by one LOL

QF Happy anniversary... have a very nice dinner

Lydia agree with MissP... ditch the meanie!!

TTC Did I come across someone gettin ready to start BD again??? How many of you ladies are having more?? I guess since I know that Marco is my fourth last, I haven't even started feeling broody... even for a moment! Which is funny, since after DD2 was born, I was broody almost immediately, even though I thought that she was my last! I guess this time around, Colic is proving to be good birth control

Weather is crap here today... just want to curl up in bed. Hubby and I going to a Hallowe'en party tonight (with Marco in tow). Got a sexy Police officer costume (which I will look like a stuffed sock in) for myself and he is going as a jailbird. My boots are at least a 6 inch heel... should be interesting BF in that get-up!!

Quilted / Alibobble max likes his bottles almost too hot to drink. Weird that. He also likes his bath too hot! Funny boy.

Like the suggestion for the new name for our thread! Like babyblue3 said, we don't want to attract the scary ladies on the weaning threads though! Maybe we should have a code which means "early weaning!"

Jetli hats off to you even thinking of ttc again at this stage. Maybe its because I know that Max is my last that I am not even thinking about another baby....although we said that dd was our last!!

My 2 dc were anabel karmel babies and both eat fine, i think it depends on the child really. Quite like the idea of blw but think that I will be starting before he is capable of that. Saying that he slept through the night for the first time in a while last night so shows he can do it.

Anyway, must go and pour some more wine in time for X Factor....hope those twins go!

Noah slept at my mums last night and i told her to feed him at 7 and give hinm a dream feed at 11. When i went for him this morning she said i didn't give him a dream feed at 11 cos he didn't wake up for it. Doh, the point is that he doesn't wake up pmsl. Bless her, not a clue

TTC - Not in this house. Noah is our last. I think i've just about persuaded dh to go for the snip. He's always refused and said i might as well be sterilised cos i'm used to been messed around with in that area , the cheek of him.

We're in the middle of trying to get Noah to go to bed on an evening instead of going up when we go. I took him up at 8 and tried to get him to go to sleep on his own but he was having none of it so i cuddled him to sleep and then put him down. He slept ok for half an hour then dh went up to get him back to sleep. and we've both been back up once more each so far and its only 10pm. But we've agreed to persevere with it and hopefully he'll get used to it, well he'll have to at some point in his life

Morning all!
Well Hetty did her first proper chuckle last night and we managed to catch it on video - twas very cute indeed. DP was blowig raspberrys at her and she thought it was hilarious. Clearly she'll be the kind of lass who likes a bit of bottom humour
TTC - yeah it is a bit early really, but DP is 46 and it took us 5 years to get preggers the first time around, so hence we're going to go for it and hang the consequences. If we don't get another baby then so be it, but we at least wanted to try because neither of us are only children, so can't imagine what that would be like.
cradle cap - any recomendations for getting rid of this? She's got some scurfy patches and I think that's what it is...

lydia ooh Alton Towers is only 50 mins from me too! leaving summer with my best friend who has looked after her more than her grandparents and she is quite used to the new screaming Summer so hoping the day will go well. Just sat and written list of things for her including info on bottles and nappies etc even though she knows it all. I have also just written our mobiles down on paper just in case like a pigeon flies in and pecks my frineds phone to death and then something awful happens and no-one can get hold of us!........why does having kids turn you mental???

jetli TTC soon, good luck Tis is the last baby for us, I had Grace on my own and Si is daddy to her anyway, then we had Summer, I think fi money was no issue I would like just one more and hope a little boy but it comes down to practicalities at the end of the day and I just don't think we could cope Think I'll wait about 5 yrs and then a dog

Phoenix Carry on what your doing, Noah will get used to it, I started doing that at 6 wks and it hsappend so quickly that she started sleeping through, those first few nights of up and down and up and down ( esoecially when X Factor or something is on ) are a pian in the bum buthe'll learn and you'll hopefully have your evenings back

Hi everyone else...getting Si on a rollercoaster today, I just can't wait to see his face!!

Have fun Gillyan . My dh would never go on a rollercoaster. I love them and am training ds1 to like them so when he's big enough i'll have someone to go on them with

I just noticed Christiana on a scary weaning thread asking if she should start weaning. You can guess the answers she's getting.