July 09 - Sore ladybits and melons for tits! [grin]

[Quiltedrose]

Ok so there's only 2 of us so far but felt duty bound as the first July delivery to start the thread off!

'Pop' in when you're ready!!

dhbonding mine is exactly the same gem and its winding me up! as for the colic being how they are born yes it ha an affect on htem but DS was a 'normal' birth but back to back so lots of things can have an effect on them.
thrush those of you with thrush are you being treated too? if not it will just reoccur. My dr wasn't going to treat me when I had it with ds but I found an info leaflet on the web for him explaining why he should
pheonix result! with the change of test

COLIC Please don't feel that the way your DC was born has caused colic. Any baby can have colic however it is born and nobody is sure why. It is hard to cope with but it will improve.
Things I have tried (either recently or in the past)that may or may not help:

dummy - some babies find it soothing to suck on a dummy. I'm not a big fan of them but have used them in the first couple of months for this.

feeding - try establishing a 3-4 hourly feeding pattern. IME Babies may cry for food as their stomach hurts with colic, feeding them makes it worse rather than better. If you give them a longer space between feeds it gives their insides more time to recover and they feed much better and settle in between. This is not based on any medical knowledge - just experience!

gripe water - helps some not others, but worth a try

cranial osteopathy - someone has already mentioned this. I'm a bit of a sceptic. It helped DS1 as he had a very traumatic delivery but not DS2 (who was very colicky)- so the jury's out here! Didn't use it for DS3 as he didn't need it and too skint to use it with DS4!!

infacol - you need to use it consistently as it works better that way

Phoenix well remembered - DS2 has had his tongue tie snipped twice. We had a good day yesterday and today with normal feeding (every 2.5-3 hours). I did relent on Sunday and supplemented him with a bottle of ebm. He did sleep from 11pm-7:30am from all the clustering he had done that day but tbh I would rather have breasts that weren't sore and wake up at 3am rather than feeding nonstop for hours and sleep through the night IYSWIM.

Glad Noah's kidneys are ok. That must be a relief.

Gem pls don't beat be upset. PND is very common and the main thing is to recognise it is present and get help. You are doing a great job!

Jetli baby alligator.....think it must be present with all of our bubs.

Cranial Osteo we are doing this too. I am hoping DS2 is a bit more settle soon as the only thing that soothes him is feeding or sleeping on me (or DH). Great in theory but in reality my other DC's are starting to want attention again. For nearly 8 weeks DS2 has ruled the roost. Slings are great but sometimes just not practical and I just feel like we need a break.

Headaches ouch - I haven't really had (thank goodness) but I am drinking LOTS of water. I always feel thirsty.

Well evening now; I have some expressing to do. YAWN.

headaches yes

baby alligator yes

colic yes

tired? oh so very!

xxx

hi all, been skimming th eposts, havent been able to get on much past few days!
colic dd had this terribly she would scream from 4pm til 2am until she was about 12 weeks it was awful. the only thing that made it stop was to give her a bottle at about 6 and ir seemed to settle her as she was fussing st the boob through all that time and making me sore!
contraception pah! dp asked last night why iw ouldnt let him touch me felt really bad
bottles ds is bf but have found the same with dd that he needs abottle in the evening or he just screams the place down, have been expressing 4 oz out but it is really making me sore. i feel guilty giving him a bottle even though its EBM.
queenfee ds is also filling his clothes, we sorted out the 3-6month clothes last night as he's fast out growing everything. we were brought lots of little denim short and tee sets but his legs are so chunky they look like they're cutting off his circulation!
relationships anyone else having really bad arguments with their dps?? im finding it hard to not slap him round the head, i get F-all help with the kids. he really does see at as MY job! he's been off since friday night. the only help ive had was yesterday when he LET me have a sleep for two hours in afternoon. i take both kiddies out everyday to park or a toddler group whilst he stays at home. its really getting me down.

Lydia I am with you about feeling pissed off a lot at my DH. I feel like such a bitch at times. He is a great support/help BUT he does need prodding to get things done for me (like laundry etc) I feel like such a nag and just wish he would do things as he sees they need doing. Instead I get into a state and then he does the chores. Not fun. Especially when you have a newborn constantly on you, and other DC's getting under your feet.

Thank goodness for wine.

Feeling guilty about ebmbottle use Why is that?! I feel like that too. DS has 1 bottle of ebm a night so I can sleep which I a fine about. But 3 times now in the last few weeks I have topped him up with a bottle of ebm during the day after hours of cluster feeding. I then feel like such a failure and wonder why I can't cope. I hate my body for being sore and not giving him what he needs. Nature is not on my side.

Activity Why don't you make inlaws a nice breast milk tea okay so maybe you can't do that but you can at least laugh about the thought of doing it.

Oh I am so glad I checked in.
apple that is hilarious....un ironed babyygro's? How could you - LOL. I don't even iron my own clothes.

We have un ironed everything in this house too. Def wouldn't dream of ironing babygros

I couldn't cope with my in laws staying with me at all. I'd be on here ranting within 5mins. Visiting them is bad enough

ActivityApple you don't iron your babygrows????? Terrible woman! Seriously though I'm not actually sure where my iron is

guilt over bottle use Ladies... motherhood is far too full of guilt to beat ourselves up over these things. I remember crying my eyes out and feeling hopeless over use of bottles with dd1 but this time I REFUSE to allow myself to feel that way. DD1 NEEDED a bottle of EBM every evening or she screamed from 7-10 NON stop which was enough to drive anyone potty! If you need to give it, you need to, to stay sane. Maybe that's not the opinion of the hardcore BF'ers but I'm afraid I'm all for doing what keeps things working in your family, esp if you have other DC's to look after.

activity man and I thought my IL were bad... LOL about BM tea idea!

in other news dd2 has reached 12lb something (they weigh in kilos so no idea what it is fully) from 9lb in 6weeks. Filling 0-3 stuff but not quite ready for 3-6mths. Can't believe how big she is. Keep seeing all these little dot babies and thinking LO looks huge! Keeping her in baby grows to make her look like a baby for longer

evening all, dp has gone to work, feel bad now after my rant about him this morning as he's been really good today.
not sure whats going on with my boobs but my nips are killing me! cant even express they hurt that bad. back to the lansinoh cream! im not going to worry about bottles now, although he's going to have to have formula tonight as i have no reserves left pumped!! alibobble bill is the same he will scream 7-10!
he was weighed at his HV cehck up today and at 7 weeks is now 12lb 15 1/2oz!
activity i couldn't cope with my in-laws for a week i'd go nuts! my friends MIL is always going round at un-godly hours like 10am and not leaving until 7-8pm! she tried to pretend she was out the other day when her MIL came a-knocking, she tought she'd gone away only to find her at her back window peering in!

wow its good to laugh this really made me giggle
bottles do what you have to do to survive I say. You are not going to look back in 20 years surely and say oh I wish I had sacrificed myself more. I am pro BF by the way but don't think people should feel so guilty about bottles. You are feeding your baby either way! I am fed up because my DH insists that Alfie doesn;t take a bottle when I know he does. No Dh he won't take a bottle WHEN HES NOT HUNGRY ok rant over
dharguments were doing all right this time but after DS was born the lack of sleep drove us crazy and we very nearly split up. Thats what I mean by whatever it takes to survive!
becca loved the short post - summed up just how we are all feeling at the mo I think
lydia is DH secretly reading your posts
Alfie has his jabs and I have my 8 wk check tomorrow May postpone his jabs as i am supposed to be going to a friends hen night and don't want to have to cancel because he has had a bad reaction or something

Hey huys.

colic sorry no experience but sorry for the one's having to put up with it, my friends DS had it, it must be so stressful, thinking of you.

arguments Yep, me and DP had the mother of all showdowns night before last, he is really good at doing stuff but just drives me a bit mad as he askm me as many pointless qeustions about stuff as DD1 does! All sorted now. Men,...they just don't know hoe stressful it is to be at home in the holidays with 2 kids one of which is used to being innursery 3 dyas a wk and is now not, they could do iy for a day but week in week out at the same time as doing housework and cooking....ARGHH rant over.

guilt I agree with queenfee do what you have to re bottles. I know what you mean though, when I gave up BF I cried my eyes out watching her root around and made DP give the first bottle. was for the best tho.

sleeping Summer slept from 7-10 last night, woke and had 2ozand then slept till 6am!!!! Wooo! Especially great as me and DP went out last night to watch a band in Manchester!

activity OMG, you prro love! I'm with slushy on the breast milk tea, genius!

Right I'm off camping tomorrow!! We've just finished packing the car and even with a new roof box there is hardly any space, had to sacrifce the booze...will buy it when we get there. PLEASE PLEASE keep your fingers crossed for no torrential rain and that it all goes swimmingly!!

Hey guys, that should of said!

I solemly swear that I am going to start reading through my posts before I post them, I type so fast that I make so many mistakes, I'm sorry!

Morning all!
Have a fab weekend gillyan
Another fab night's sleep - Hetty is sleeping from 11-ish to 6-ish now. We do bath around 9pm, then double boob and she goes out like a light bless her
Still fussing on the breast and I get a bit worried about supply since I'm doing zero night feeding. I'm a bit gutted as yesterday she ended up having a bit of formula because I had to do an emergency trip to the vets with my Gran and her dog and I left Hetty with my SIL. I was gone longer than I wanted to be and she got hungry, so it couldn't be helped. I must get my ass in gear and get some EBM in the freezer for these unplanned absences.
arguments - had a couple of minor ones here, and it sounds like we're mostly having the same issues! One example is DP is doing the pots by hand when we have a sodding dishwasher - some kind of avoidance tactic I think. I'm insisting either the dishwasher goes on ebay, or he uses the bloody thing and spends the time saved on running the hoover over or loading the washer. I've become a cliche and pointed out that DP's little daily routines haven't really been that much affected since the baby came along, whereas my world is completely upside down and I haven't so much as managed a lick of mascara in weeks
lydia - that poo story made me laugh so much! SIL got a bonzer nappy yesterday afternoon - another complete change of clothes for Hetty. As well as Lansinoh I'm using a Mothercare nipple balm - Nipple Nurture I think it's called. Very soothing indeed and again it doesn't have to be wiped off before feeding.
bottles - at baby clinic a couple of weeks ago, there were 2 very stressed ladies whose (admittedly older) babies wouldn't take bottles at all, so that made me really nervous. So I pumped and DP gave Hetty a bottle of EBM the next evening. My HV recommended a minimum of 1 or 2 bottles a week to keep her used to having one. I'm using the Breastflow bottles. Honestly if you saw how frantic those 2 Mums were, you wouldn't feel guilty.
activity - we spent the day with my MIL Hetty last week in preparation for her babysitting whilst we went to the U2 concert. Oh the lectures! We'd taken EBM to make sure Hetty would take a bottle from her. Apparently I should have also had my own flask of hot water to warm the bottles too, rather than having to ask in cafes. Since we're breastfeeding I think I can be forgiven for not exactly being very organised with bottle feeding on the move. She kept asking in a sarcastic fashion if she'd "Passed the test" - we needed to test Hetty not her, silly woman. I secretly hoped she'd reject Granny feeding her altogether because she'd made me that cross. U2 was fab but I couldn't wait to get home . One technique I have found is to put the silent bitch on the end of every sentence, so you say "No I don't iron babygros" to MIL and add bitch to the end in your head - works a treat! (Actually I use a different, much naughtier word than bitch but then I'm a bit common).
phoenix - fingers crossed about the GTT

hello everyone!!! thanks so much for comments really made me feel better

sleeping DS slept from 8pm till 3am had a bottle and went back to sleep till 730am so that was the best night so far guess its a sign we are on our way to better nights

arguements i must admit we have not had any, i could not ask for a more supportive DP. He is off work at the moment waitinf to start a new job.
today he let me sleep in while he got up with DS and when i came down he had done all the housework too, made bottles, done the washing!!! he doea this about once a week. think its good as he is trying so hard to bond with DS

activity that made me laugh :O you poor thing!! im lucky in a way my ILs live in wales so see them once month and they never stick there noses in.
I dont iron anything!!! why would i? what a waste of time!!!

baby group have my first baby group next wed to meet other july 09 mummys, looking forward to it but bit nervous!! anyone else go to these groups? are they any good?

off to disco in the park today! with my mum and all my brothers and sisters so should be good day.

take care all, have fun xxx

Hey ladies!

Can't believe I am moving in a weeks time - we have done sod all so far other than collect things to be car-booted and then moved other bits strategically to make it look like we've done something!

Saw my hv today Isaac is 11lb6oz now and a very happy little chappy! Told her that I'm not feeling too good with all the stress recently and she's going to make sure I don't get too lost with all that is going on! TMI Alert Also told her that I'm still not feeling right down below so I have to make a doctors appt asap. I feel v tight still where I had the stitches internally and I still can't even contemplate DH coming near me as it's too sore. I also feel quite uncomfortable where the external stitches were but I think it could be where I am bf and my hormones are a bit crazy.

sleeping going well, DS is a morning feeder and is never far from the boob between 8am and 1pm but goes 6 hours overnight so I'm not complaining!

arguments on and off, not helped by the stress at home but DH trying v hard and we're getting there.

xxx

oh bums Bill has thrush in his mouth. have been given daktarin which expressly say DO NOT GIVE TO INFANTS UNDER 4 MONTHS! have started a breastfeeding thread as he also didnt prescribe me anyhting, which coming away i now think is weird as i thought you passed it back and forth hence the constantly sore nips! can anyone offer any advice on the matter as feeding is becoming very sore and he is obviously in discomfort.

Hi Lydia - I'm pretty sure the advice on the gel for babies is due to risk of choking as opposed to it being poisonous or anything. Try this link - it has really good information. (A site worth bookmarking - they have some fab info regarding drugs and breastfeeding and I used it when I had to take antibiotics).
Found a local baby cafe for tomorrow. This thrashing on the boob is making me completely insane now so I reckon I need some professional advice Nothing seems to be working with any consistency at all to relieve the situation. On Kellymom's advice I tried taking her off and letting her suck my finger this afternoon (the theory being maybe she doesn't want milk anymore, just to suck) - how wrong could I be - she went absolutely effing banana's!!!! DP was downstairs and thought she was being murdered or something

Mij HELP - is there such a sling that means I can carry Hetty in her favoured position, over my shoulder, and leave my hands free?

Hello everyone

I am so jealous of all of you getting a good block of sleep. I am with you ActivityApple, he doesn't go much longer than 2 1/2 hours at night.

My mum came for bedtime tonight to help me as DD Aged 6 is finding it all a bit tough when DH is working and she doesn't get all the attention she needs. SHe has been great but finds bedtime hard if I am dealing with Max. Mum was fab, bathed Max, gave him a bottle and stayed until I put the big ones to bed. What a help.

For those of you feeling bad about giving bottles, especially those feeling guilty about ebm, you really musn't. It is so easy to beat yourself up about everything but try to take a step back and think that a fed baby is a happy baby and that makes us all happy!!!

Jetli Max does the head thrashing thing too. What I have been doing over the last few days if he does it too much is expressing and then giving him that. If he takes it then he is hungry and wolfs it down. If he refuses that then I know he isn't hungry and I can either put him down for a sleep or try something else.

Anyway, thats me for now. Max is crying..it was wishful thinking to try to put him down in his cot at this time of night!!!

Sleep well everyone xxxx