May 2005 babies

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thought I'd start this up - apologies if anyone already has - for everyone from the dyue May 05 thread to graduate to.

profiles:

me: 31, SW London
baby: Murray (ds2) born 8/5/5 7lb 11oz
family: dp & ds1 (2 1/4)

Big yes to the 'challenge' of trying to manage two. It's complicated as I also feel really sorry for dd (3) - she's every right to be pissed off - so hard to bf though when she' s obviously seeking attention from mummy - attention she would have got in spades 2 weeks ago. Suppose I'll cling on to the 'it's just a phase', am also worried about coping alone with 2 once dh goes back to wrok though.

Glad to hear everyone else is having "a few problems" with the older child . Exhausting! She's fine with the baby but any requests of "No, maybe later" etc re picking up teh baby as soon as she's been fed etc are met with storming off, slammed doors, whining...

Am dreading tomorrow when partner goes back to week - why oh why do we have a 2 week half term here?

Plus, think I'm getting mastitis Feel achey and one breast is hurting a lot

muppety, even though I've bought dummies I haven't actually used them. I'm sure Cerys would love them because shes always sucking on her fingers but she seems quite content, so have avoided using them as they dont seem necessary at the moment

I'm having trouble with ds too. Random bad behaviour and demanding that we put the baby down and cuddle him. I read somewhere that the toddler's need for attention is a bottomless pit. Hopefully, when we settle back into a proper routine he will improve.

I have to admit, we lasted 48 hours before reaching for the dummy. Dd seems to have colic. She is an angel all day and sleeps quite well at night too but between about 9PM and 12PM she screams inconsolably Anyone else using infacol? It seems to be working for us.

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God, I admire those of you who already have 1/2/3 etc children and a newborn ! One baby at the moment is a struggle although I must admit, the routine of going out is getting a little easier.
I can't believe those of you who are able to fit into pre pregnancy clothes . My left toe won't fit into my old jeans ! Oh well, without the bump I defo look and feel thinner but thats coz it's been there for the last 6 months and I had kind of got used to it!!!!

bf still seems to be going well for Freya & I and I hope it continues. The sleepless nights also seems to be improving although i'm not speaking to loud incase i'm back here saying the opposite tomorrow .

Hope everyone else is well.

It's not really the toddler that's the problem, Shhhh. His attention seeking is so ridiculously transparent that it's not too difficult to deal with. It's the baby that's killing me.
She screamed from 10pm last night until 6:30am this morning. I have had 2 hours sleep and I feel so exhausted and guilty because we had to just let her cry quite a bit.

We had a dreadful night last night too. I was a shivering sweating wreck and the baby woke at about 1.30 and must have taken about 3 hours to settle. Lots of griping pain crying so hoping she's not getting colic as well. Have the Infacol in already but keep resisting using it when read the ingredients.

I had that shivering, sweating, fluey thing last week Tinker. It's not nice.

The infacol definately gets the wind up quicker after a feed. I'm not sure if it will help with the colic.

Logic & Tinker dh & I know exactly how you feel at the moment. Freya was the same when we first brought her home and given the fact that we had been deprived of sleep already due to the pregnancy and labour we were so so so so tired. She cried for about a week from 11pm till about 5am but during the day she was a little angel ! We didn't know what we were/n't doing right or wrong and it was hard. In fact it seemed that everyone we spoke to reminded us of how their little one was sleeping right through...grrrrrrr ! Anyway we managed to sleep while Freya slept and in fact we even turned quite a few people away to allow us time to sleep. Then Freya woke during the night only a couple of days during the week and now she has been sleeping from her last feed at 12/1ish till about 5/6 ish (touch wood this continues.) I know understand about what people say when they tell you that you forget the bad things so easily as this is true !! Once we have got out 5 hrs of sleep we can take on the world ! Given the fact that we couldn't survive previously on less than 10 hrs sleep I think we are doing well.

Anyway I must admit that althoughi'm bf I do give her about 2 ox of formula at night as the last feed from me somehow isn't usually enough for her. But it works for us so I don't see any problem. I know that things can and will change,she is only 3 weeks old for gods sake but hopefully with dh's help and support we will do well.

We also have the infacol in, just in case.

I hope you both have a better nights sleep and will be thinking of you tonight .

PS Don't feel guilty about letting baby cry alone, at the end of the day as long as baby is safe and secure it won't do any harm although I know exactly how you feel. It's best though to walk away than to stress listening to the screams.

Hi everybody, just wanted to say hang in there, it can only get better .... I was ready to throw dd out of the window on sunday, as it seemed that she was crying all day ... when I finally put her to bed at 11:30pm (exhausted)and decided to let her cry, she cried for 10min and slept through the night ... well until 6 am, I even got up to check at 5:30 wether she was still breathing ... and yesterday she was as good as gold... last night she slept until 5am ... she is 5 weeks now, so it can only get better ... until the 6 week growth spurt.

BTW I thought that Gina was a bit OTT but I have been waking dd up during the day and keeping her on a sort of scedule and it seems to work.

As for the bf ... I have been toping up the last feed with formula but it works for me ...us

heart goes out to those with toddlers ... dd1 and dd2 were 18 month apart, I still wonder how I survived

I am so glad I have found this thread! Although I suppose Dd isn't too bad at sleeping in the greater scheme of things, dh and I have both got to the stage where you want to throw her out of the window and then run down the garden, pick her up and do it again We've been sleeping in shifts so that we're not both strung out at the same time.

She is a pefect little being during the day and we have even enjoyed a couple of nights of 4-5 hours sleep. But on a bad night - holy cow - she is squawking non-stop for 6 or 7 hours. So I'm grateful to hear the tips on no eye contact etc. And relieved to know that the apparent randomness of whether or not she'll sleep at night is reasonably normal.

And infacol - can anyone tell me how old they have to be to start using this for wind/colic? It breaks my heart when I can feel the wind running around her system and she is arching with the pain of it.

My heart goes out to you guys dealing with this AND flu.

hurrah - ds2 has learnt a new state. Before he only had asleep or about-to-expire-screaming. Now he actually does a whole range of cries including wimpering, boredom, general pissed-off-ness.

Dd seems to be putting on an ounce a day so I am going to have to start topping up with formula. I can't keep up with her. We've been using the infacol almost since birth. It's the only thing you can use. Dd does the arching thing too.

I've been given a book called Baby Bliss by Dr Harvey Karp. It's about a technique called the 5 Ss and it does seem to help Ces calm down at least, and sometimes go to sleep...

OMG both children are asleep at once! Call the press! Why aren't I asleep too?

Claudi2, it's reassuring to know that others also "top up" with formula while bf. At first I felt like I was a bad mother (Nothing against formula at all but so wanted to bf 100%...)but at the end of the day like I have said before and you said if it works why not??!! For some reason Freya is hungry on that last feed and is so demanding that I can't & my milk can't keep up. I have started to xpress so hopefully I can now start to give her this extra xpressed amount at night to help.

ABow, although this is dh & I's first baby it looks like what you are experiencing is the same as us and most others. It's nice though isn't it to know that all is normal and I suppose it's hard for the babies as they have only ever known the inside of our tunnies and the hospital . In fact when we left the hospital with Freya we nearly turned back as she looked so sad & I felt as though I was taking her away from somewhere she liked and was home LOL..!!!
She is still trying at times like last night but as long as we are sleeping a little things aren't so bad. Your "shift" work sounds ideal !! We may try this.
Regarding infacol: the hw prescribed this as it can be used from birth. Baby's face though is a picture when she has it ! Not a happy bunny !!!

Sorry I meant "Tummies"...time for bed I think

Also meant the hv prescribed it...cross between mw & hv there..defo time for a nap.!!!!

Doesn't Freya like infacol? Francesca loves it. She has an almost pavlovian reaction when she sees the bottle coming In fact, she won't latch onto me for a minute or so afterwards because I don't have the stuff on tap!

Oh my god I wish she did.!!! We gave it to her and she looked like she had just sucked a lemon..no i re-phrase that...a tub of lemons !
It smells lovely but can't say I have tried it myself.!!! Surely it can't be that bad.!???

Eliza didn't like the Infacol when I tried it either Spat it out.

Think I've got mastitis in other breast as well now , feel so crap atm. Bed is soaking when wake up in the night. AT least have anti biotics so probably best time to get it. Oldest daugher has turned feral and is out playing all day so don't have too much pestering either.

Thanks shhhh and logic. I'm starting to feel a bit more in control now. It'll be interesting to see if that feeling lasts thro the night.

The hv came for her first visit today and started pestering me about contraception. Felt this was rather funny since dh and I haven't actually slept in the same bed at the same time for 10 days now

Hope you feel better soon Tinker!

Hope you feel better soon Tinker.

I am a bit gutted at the moment. Ces has a "storkbite" birth mark on her nose. It has only appeared in the last week and isn't too noticable BUT the HV said that she will have it until she goes to school

Finally managed to get a minute to join the postnatal thread. Hello ladies. Bit hectic isn't it!

B'feeding well. LOL re: breastpads - can't afford to forget them can you. Finally starting to stop bleeding down below (sorry, if bit much info), but am relieved that stitches seem to be healing nicely this time, much quicker than first time round.

I have a scan booked tomorrow as believe it or not, when I came home on day 2, I passed a bit of placenta with cord, the size of half a plate. They are very concerned (as was I, bit shocking to find that in your pants), so I have to have a scan to make sure that nothing else has been left).

Will log on tomorrow as my DS1 has a day with a childminder, so I can get on with jobs and have a bit of one on one with DD1, so, hopefully will be able to catch up properly.

Right, DD1 and DS1, fast asleep. I'm off to bed.

xx

Logic, Freya also has the stork mark on her forehead, both eyelids, back of her head and the nape of her neck. We aren't to concerned as these have been visable since birth so I suppose we have had time to get used to them. Our mw & hv have advised us that they will be much less noticable once she is 1yr and say the only real time you should notice them is when she gets v upset or has a temper tantrum.
I know that things like this worry us parents v easily (god know how paranoid dh & i have been about every little thing with Freya) but relax, as long as baby is healthy x

While I am loged on: Does/is/has anyone experienced problems with their stitches? I was given internal ones following a 2nd degree tear and I am finding 3 weeks on that when I go to the toilet (for a you know what....sorry itmi ) there appears to be fresh blood from my stitches. There isn't a huge amount and it doesn't bleed during the day only when I go. Should I be concerned? I am worried that the bits they have stitched may come apart?
Any advice?