March 09 - there is no snooze button on a baby that needs milk.....!

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over here ladies

Mdavza hope the tests come out okay. To give you a wee bit of comfort, I had a heart murmur and my mum said that I looked so rosey cheeked and healthy compared to the other babies when she had to take me in for tests. Don't even know if the murmur is still there now and I have had no problems at all in my (almost) 38 years.

We've had some movement from Rosie in the moses basket - there isn't much room for her to go anywhere though! I think I'll move her into a cot soon - but have to go get the cot from my brother first. Am lucky that it just fits down the side of our bed so she will still be in with us.

Right - need to get sorted for a walk down to the nurse for Rosie's jabs - there is a teeny bit of sun coming out so hopefully I won;t get soaked!

good luck mdazva! I believe I'm right in saying some babies grow out of heart problems, so hopefully that'll be the case for him too.

re reusable nappies - surprisingly not that much washing. When she was first born I did a load of nappies a day, now it's every other. Works out well for me.

sex. erm no thanks! I have haemorhoids. They're inside and the couple of times we'd had sex it's rubbed them. I should go to the doctors really, it's really painful going to the bathroom, apart from anything else.

I hope everthing ok mdazva try not to worry to much.

My uncle has a heart murmur and it hasn't stopped him from doing what he wants.

Unfortunly little man doesn't like being hot so he wont have any covers on him at night.

Good luck mdazva - I had a heart murmur when little and it all sorted itself out. When I was pregnant with DS, they checked it out and nothing there.

DD also has small heart murmur, but they were really chilled out about it at GOSH as most resolve themselves - hope it is same with your LO.

Small yay here - DD took 1oz of ebm from bottle today, so after last time's attempt when she would have none of it, she glugged this - I only defrosted 1oz so as not to waste too much if she declined. Am really delighted as it means if we keep giving her a bottle ever couple of days she should be okay for me to disappear for an afternoon and evening for my best friend's hen do in a couple of weeks - will have to try one bottle as her bedtime feed so I can try to reassure myself about that, but one step at a time

Sex? Sex? Wot's that then?

I exaggerate, though only a trifle. As someone else commented, it IS nice when it gets going, but honestly, I find it hard to concentrate with one ear (okay, one and a half) constantly pricked (no pun intended) for grumbles from the cot next to the bed.

Not many grumbles last night, though, as Rhys refused to go down UNTIL ONE A.M. It was the hardest evening slog we've had in ages -- he'd cry, fuss, go stiff as a board, get angry, I'd soothe him and finally get him to sleep and in bed, and five minutes later it would start again. I am officially knackered. And we've got dinner guests tonight...

laumiere, eeeeeeeek on Gabe's tumble. Very, very scary. I believe I would have had hysterics. Rhys doesn't move too much in his cot as he's swaddled every night, but he IS perfecting his Houdini moves. This morning I woke up to find him with both arms and one leg out of the Miracle Blanket, looking very pleased with himself.

mdazva - good luck at the doctor's. Hope they tell you it's a trifle not to be worried about.

wheely - glad to hear Lara's jabs went well, and meep - glad to hear Rosie's rash is clearing up.

Right. Time to slap some makeup on so I look less zombie-like and throw something together for dinner. I suppose large gin-and-tonics aren't enough for a meal?

He's ok! Yay!!! She listened to his heart and there is a faint murmur but nothing to worry about - thank you so much for the good wishes!
Now off to have junk food with DH to celebrate.
Corgi I don't know how you do it, wow. The more I read on this site, the more I think mums are the salt of the earth. the things we go through to make sure our babies are ok...Hope he is better tonight! Mine is also wriggling out of his wrap, and I'm starting to wean him slowly by leaving out one arm. He's started sucking a few fingers instead of furiously sticking both his fists in his mouth.

Mdavza Great news! Such a relief when you've been worried about a wee one and then all's well.

For all the night time wrigglers (legs through cot bars etc) have you thought about the gro bags? I find them really good, but I think it depends on the baby. DD1 had one and she was fine for ages in it. Then with DD2 we used one for a while but as she got older she was just getting twisted in it cos she was SO active. FB is in one and is fine with it. They do say that it reduces how far they can travel, so worth a shot!

Corgi I sympathise with the old catering bit. We had 23 adults and kids over at the weekend for a birthday bbq for DH and really, there were times when we wondered what the hell we were doing as we have three kids two of whom are still in nappies. Even as my friend was driving over she apparently said to her DH; "I dunno how the hell they're organising this with three kids...."
Like the idea of just serving up G&T's as a main meal tho!

FB constantly has his fists jammed in his mouth at the moment too and I've tried giving him a sterilised teething ring but he doesn't know what the hell to do with it. He is however, taking quite well to his Bumbo so that's helping to alleviate the flat head. He really is cute as a button at the moment tho, giving us lots of chcukles and smiles. Although if he eyes up my banana one more time....

It dawned on me today, that given he is so hungry and will not last til 6 months, if I were to start him around 4 months, that's actually only 2 weeks away! I'm not sure my food bill can handle an FB added to the list, mind......

Mdavza glad everything was OK with your LO. My sister has a heart murmur but got through the first 25 years of her life without knowing, and only found out becos she fell over outside of the doctors! All very strange but glad it turned out OK for you. Fingers crossed your LO is one of the ones who grow out of their heart problems.

Meep please ignore me if this has already been investigated, but is there any chance your LOs nappy rash could be thrush related? Just I know that can cause tummy upsets and sore bottys.

Mae has grobag thing, she moves round so much in bed that her blankets never stayed on and so it became a bit of a necessity. She still manages to creep up the basket and I am sure she would twist round if there was room to do so.

Slick I've also been thinking about weaning Mae, most of the advice I've read suggests you can start weaning from 17 weeks and given I want to return to work in Sept I think I am going to have to start thinking about solid foods (well pureed) rather soon too.

Law I also have a pile still I keep thinking its gone and then it comes back, should also probably see the Doc but keep putting it off. Fingers crossed they sort themselves out soon for both of us.

Mdavza glad your lo is ok.

Laumiere I know how scary it is when they fall. Amy was less that a week old when she went off the side of the bed onto the lino floor. Very very very scary and one hysterical mum, but she was absolutely fine after a bit of yelling.

Corgi Good luck with the dinner party. I tried to make a stir fry the other night, only to have to turn everything off halfway through as madame kicked off and would not settle with daddy. Still, it tasted ok once I got back to it in the end, even if the veg had gone a bit sad.

To those with piles I sympathise. I have them too . The beggars keep bleeding when I go to the loo. Tis like passing razor blades!

Amy manages to spin around when I lay her on a pillow on the sofa. She'll be laying lengthways on it, and shortly afterwards (unless totally zonked) will be laying across it instead!

In the last couple of days she's got very vocal and shouty, but still no actual laughing as yet. Seems she has plenty of volume but hasn't realised she could also "talk" quietly if she wanted to... lol. And what's with the wanting to feed but then smiling cheekily and pulling away only to do it over and over again???

great news Mdavza, you must be relieved.

thanks jolly, Daktarin and Cannestan are in my stash of bottom remedies. The thing that worked was Cannestan then Bepanthen - and she now has a beautiful non-sore bot again - hooray! Maybe it was the thrush that started the runny poo? Just glad it is all over.

In fact, in the spirit of TMI, I can report that Rosie has done her first "normal" poo since Thursday. But my whole house now reeks of poo - a delightful mix of toddler poo and baby poo - lovely !

corgi can I come to yours for dinner - I would be more than happy if all I got was a G&T!

slick I know what you mean about food bills. I weaned dd1 just as she was settling into nursery at around 6mo - I reckon she'd actually have waited a bit longer and was happy with just milk - so have no experience of hungry babies. But my food bill was enourmous and she spat most of it out. She eventually went through a stage when she would only eat one Hipp Organic stage 2 food, and it had to be cold oand straight out the jar - strange child.

laumiere dd1 took a tumble in teh early days - off the bed - we phoned NHS24 [blush.....pfb], but then I do know someone who called and ambulance .

Another 7am start for us - 'twas bliss - my denouncement of dream-feeding is revoked - we are back to dh waking Rosie for a feed at about 11pm annd that is seeing her through at the moment.........until the next growth spurt!

I love the baby chatter/shouts grinning. I managed to get Rosie giggling today (with the help of dd1) but as soon as I turned on the video camera she went all solemn again.

Can I just say that I have managed simultaneous napping of both dd's today - I have a hot cup of coffee and MN for the next hour or so.........

.........and relax..........

Meep Hope you enjoyed your cuppa as much as I am mine at the minute (with obligatory afternoon scone ). Amy is totally zonked out for now... although I probably just jinxed that!

I managed to catch her chattering and shouting on my phone the other day. I didn't know it videoed till I pressed the wrong button... ha ha!

Wheely I know how disheartening the "we have to do "it" on such and such a day routine for sex can be. That's what we got like after my mc, and it led to dh having some erm... perfomance problems. I'm just hoping the "if it happens it happens (in respect of getting pg)" train of thought will work once we get going properly again.

Btw, don't know if I am the last person on the planet to try the Moonpig website, but I have just ordered a fab father's day card. What a brilliant website! I hate trundling round looking for cards, tried yesterday but with A being grouchy I gave up.

oi meep - you taking the pee out of my washing line . Tis very posh doncha know.

I can very clearly remember dd1's first tumble from a bed (our spare room one which was low) and then her second (from our bed - which was v. high). Completely unscathed though both times thnakfully but I remember panicking .

corgi - hope the gin dinner went well.

mdazva - glad all was ok !

Pooh, think DS1 might have chicken pox.

On the plus side, finally got my ad up for CV editing: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/small_business_ads/775542-Professional-CV-writing-improvement-50

Plea se, pretty please can people post something every so often to keep the thread up?

Yip, we too have a tumble story - and we were horrified - even tho I know it happens at least once with most parents. FB was only a few days old and we were both exhausted as he was up feeding constantly. He wasn't going to sleep and DH was having a shot of having him sleeping on his chest - DH was sitting upright, and basically he too dozed off and Fb slowly slid down his arm and then fell from the bed onto the floor. Luckily our bed is pretty low down, but it is hard floors - I woke up to hear DH shouting in panic and I went near hysterical. FB was fine and crying and I watched him closely for days after. I actually don't think he really hurt himself but DH felt bloody awful about it. I know it happened to my friend's DH and they mentioned it to the doctor when they next visited and she said, 'Oh, don't worry it happens all the time!"

It is awful tho as you just feel like the worst parent in the world.

They do say tho that "God looks after Glasgow drunks and wee bairns" (The fact that neither try to break their own fall seems to prevent injury!)

Laumiere Sorry to hear about the Chicken Pox - hope it's not a bad case, but bad enough that he doesn't get it again!

DD1 had her school play today. Me and my neighbour were near hysterical when we saw the tail, I'd made, in context. It looked odd to say the least. "Well I didn't have a frame of reference!" I howled with laughter and tried not to drop FB. It was very good tho and DD1 made an excellent crocs arse!

F has started making a new noise. It's hard to describe but is a very loud squealing and she does it for hours. Very cute.

Am having a bit of a feeding dilemma here though. Last three days I have managed to get F to take a few ounces of formula before bed (otherwise she is totally breastfed). It has worked wonders in reducing the evening crying but she really seems to be struggling with wind and constipation now. Not sure what to do. I can't face expressing every day and don't think it's even realistic as my milk supply isn't particularly good. Might try posting on the BFing section.

Am trying to psych myself up for potty training DD1 next week. She has used the potty a few times, so I don't think it will be too bad, but hate the idea of confining myself to the house for a week or so. Also, the whole house is carpeted in white or has oak floorboards that stain if any liquid gets on them. I know, I know, but DH and I weren't prepared to sacrifice our aesthetic sensibilities just because we have two children . . . a decision I suspect we're going to regret!

elsy Potty-training sympathy here! Just starting DS1(3) down that road. Of course Gabriel starts to cry the minute we get started!

Elsy what age is your dd1? I have been putting off anything potty related with my dd1 as I just can't face it. She's only about to turn two so thinking it might be a bit early for her, that and her strenuous poo denial

me: dd1 did you do a poo?
dd1: no poo
dd1: Roshie poo?

hmmmmmmmmmm

laumiere hope your ds1 doesn't get too sick - are you stocked up with piriton, calamine and bicarb?

slick I am dreading the making school costumes stage - but I would have loved to see your masterpience!

grinning I HATE the Moonpig adverts with a passion, as does dh ........... so I have ordered him a card - it does have his girls on the front so he shoudl like it, and it will give him a laugh that I resorted to the dreaded Moonpig!

Gorgeous day so might walk up to nursery with dd1 and Rosie in the sling (wheely still haven't mastered the outward facing in the Close - so am back to a standard baby carrier at the moment)

My body is just aching at the moment from carrying Rosie, carrying Rosie in a carseat/sling/ carrying wailing tired toddler through a shopping mall whilst pushing pram. I feel like I've been to 3 spin classes and a body pump class - who needs gym membership

PS wheely has a Cath Kidston washing line !

Oooh, potty training. I know, it's looming large here too. I think summer is a good time to try as they can mooch around with not much on and get the drift. I hear that girls take to it quicker than boys. DD1 took to it fairly easily and elsy I don't remember being confined to the house for a week in order to do it but I do remember thinking; OMG! How will I leave the house?? What will happen?! But it was ok in the end and not as bad as I thought - but I do think it depends on the age.

DD2 is nearly 22 months and I am thinking about it but she's suddenly been having some ferocious screaming tantrums (well, for her anyway) and I think she's about to have a speech improvement so I'm going to at least wait for that stage as the tantrums die down a bit then. Better time to do it I think.

Had a sh*t night last night. Have been on my own a lot this week as DH has had lots of things on and I've had the kids, sorting the remortgage, school plays (& croc tail-making!), paperwork, shopping, homework, tantrums (me), more tantrums (DD2) and am just shattered and DH wasn't coming back last night. So needless to say, FB was up for a feed, then I couldn't get back to sleep for two hours cos the hayfever was bad, then Fb and DD2 woke at 5am and had to sort them, then it was everyone up at 7am for school etc so I think I got about 3 hours sleep - I've now got to get them all ready, collect DD1 and take them to the other side of town (bloody miles away) to the dentist (none available round here, and anyway, he's a keeper - but not handy). DD2 will go nuts when he checks her teeth as she goes nuts when we brush them or gets her feet measured. Weirdo. So not looking forward to that. Then DH is working on Sunday and tomorrow we are meant to be moving the kids rooms around. And I cracked my head a belter on the shelf by the changing station. Happy? Oh, yes. Oh what a happy day.

Rant Over.

P.S. What is a Cath Kidston washing line when it's at home? Am away to Google it....

PPS - elsy We learnt the hard way over cream carpets. That's all I'm going to say.

Wheely & Meep Can't find one, but I'm guessing it's a rotary dryer with er..flowers on the pole??

White carpets eh...

My best mate had white carpets in her house. I can remember going over and her ds was sitting in the middle of the floor with both hands in his nappy.

You can guess the rest!

(suppose you could call it floor art!!!)

Right, here is my Cath Kidston washing line for those who are interested want to take the piss. www.cathkidston.co.uk/p-13340-washing-line-with-pegs-nu-nv.aspx. Its not even a proper washing line. I guess its designed for camping as its only 3 metres long and you hook it onto things but it works in my wasteland garden. But it has lovely coloured pegs .

Funnily enough one of my friends was telling me about Cath Kidston weaning spoons at drop off today. Note to self: must get out more.

Sorry you're having a rubbish day (already) slick.

meep (harumph). Anyway, with the close, I'm not sure I've got outwards sorted properly either - I just bunged her in one day but I'm not sure I did it properly so mean to get the instructions out and have a look.

I think I ahve to accept L is going to wake around 2 and 5 every night. Not sure if its habit or need. She is now sleeping from 7.30 ish though and has actually cut the time she is up for quite considerably so I guess we're moving in the right direction. Actually her 5 am waking this morning was wind from where I can't wind her properly in the night as she nods off.

However, she is napping in her crib like a proper baby this morning whilst I drink coffee and MN like an improper mother.

ooh meant to say on the subject of potty training - I do not envy you one bit.
My dd1 is the most stubborn child when she puts her mind to it. So, I started at about 2.6 in preparation for pre-school and she refused to sit on a potty or toilet. She could hold it and hold it for hours but refused to 'let it go'. I gave up. at 2.10 I told her she could wear dresses to nursery (had been making her wear sensible trousers up to this point) if she potty trained. She did it over night literally. Took a little bit longer to persuade her to poo in the right place but by 3 she was dry and clean day and night.

So, my advice (FWIW) is to make sure they want to do it and it'll be a breeze.

Another improper mother here - Rosie napping and I have MN and coffee!

wheely I must confess that I am a little bit of your lovely coloured pegs........and they do gorgeous spotty weaning spoons on them at CK.

So for the sad flower loving CK fans amongst us, check these out:

cutlery
weaning bowl

I don't think dd1 wants to potty train at the moment - i might bite the bullet and produce a potty and see if she gets curious about it - but will wait until we're back from our hols and she is officially 2.

White carpets - eek!

wheely Rosie wakes at about 5am still and grunts and thrashes in the moses basket for a while with her eyes firmly closed - then goes back to sleep. This morning she was properly awake at the back of 6am - sometimes it can stretch to 7am. I reckon she'd wake up at about 2am naturally after going to bed at 6.45pm. But DH wakes/feeds her at about 11pm before he goes to bed.

slick I have the dentist looming in a few weeks. Dd1 hasn't had her teeth "checked" yet - last time he just got her to smile to work out what teeth she had. We're going through a "no" phase accompanied by wee meltdowns - lots of boundaries are being tested - but also lots of cuddles as a result.

Hope tonight goes better for you - I wandered if the pollen was high because I woke up with itchy puffy eyes - urgh.

Thats exactly the products I was being told about this morning meep!

I have tried dreamfeeding but if she's not asking for it she won't take anything so ends up waking at 2 anyway. DD1 was the same as regards dreamfeeding (but was sleeping 12 hours by now - not that i am comparing... sob...).

Think my next trick is going to be to try really hard not to feed L at 5 but to try and get her back to sleep other ways as I don't think she is hungry particularly.

Ooh, on a schmaltzy note - I realised last night that last year on fathers day I was really upset at church because all the dads were getting yorkie bars and DH only got 1 and I was upset because I could't get pregnant again etc. Of course, I found out 2 weeks later that I was but what a difference a year makes . DH will be getting 2 Yorkie bars this year if we manage to get out of bed in time.

Hey all - glad to see I am not the only one still getting up at the arsecrack of dawn for my little one.

Thanks for all the feed back re bedroom antics - have told DH is officially lucky to be getting it twice a week, but now he is saying "well it's only been once so far this week - better get on it tonight to keep your stats up!" I feel like punching him sometimes.

Having said that, I have however got the cutest ever present lined up for him for Father's day.... I actually nicked it from a post on the Post-natal Oct '08 thread (don't ask what I was doing there...)

www.funkymoose.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=2135

And have booked a nice lunch for the 3 of us in town, followed by a long walk on the Common with Pen and the dog, if it's nice weather.

Anyone else doing anything spesh?
xx