Jan 07: Part 31. Nearly halfway through the terrible twos!

[Lizzzombie]

Welcome to your spanking new thread girls.

Roll call please!

E&H - thats nice that you got some thanks for all the hard work you've put in for pre-school while Ellie has been there. Glad the graduation went well. hope you maanged to rescue the chocs!

Reg - what a day!!!! I am gonna crack open a bottle of wine so cheers! Poor pip. Hope she heals soon. Was the dentist worried? MN might say that the new formula tastes yuk but B might like it if the other stuff is making him poorly. My friend had to use a formula she gets prescribed and her lo was fine with it so fingers crossed it will do the trick and at least it sounds as though your HV is on the case, or can be more on the case if needs be.
from vino

Lizz - sounds like you've had a nice week too. We had a trip to mothercare today, got a few clothes in the sale. Tried to get e new shoes from clarks but she only wanted a red pair that were too big and in the sale. She wouldn't even consider any others so we had to leave it. E was walking and S in the single buggy but it was quite a long walk to the bus stop when we went home and e was whingy so I ended up getting another dolls stroller in asda for her to push as she walked alongside me. It did the trick even though there was no doll in it!

Before we did that we went for coffee at one friends and had another for lunch (incl a 2 week old baby who I had gorgeous cuddles with).

I am quite excited as DH ahs been to the dentist to pick up my teeth whitening kit. Hopefully its sparkling teeth here I come!

how is everyone else?

btw lizz forgot to say new haircut sounds good.

Reg - oh my god you poor thing and poor old P Will the teeth drop out or will they just be discoloured until she gets her adult teeth? I would write to the stairgate manufacturer - Vino, where does she stand on this front? - to see what they say.

EAH - bless E. So cute!

Vino - can I have a huge glass of that wine please????

L is feeding every 2 hours, 3oz a time and even had a 5oz bottle earlier - he isn't even 4 weeks old!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Feel like we are just continously feeding him, it's exhausting.

Lizz - put photos of new hair up on FB purhlease.......

Best go, L crying again and DH looks ready to chuck him out of the window..............

reg - if the bed gate failed then its potentially nsafe so you would be entitled to a repair/replacement from wherever you bought it. If you report it on consumer direct website it will get passed to trading standards cos of safety issue so should get raised with manufacturer that way. Obv if you write to manufacturer they might want to do something anyway.

wilkie - sounds like its hard work at the mo

Glasses of wine for whoever needs them

Can I have two please? And is there any chocolate going spare??

I'll tell you something that'll make y'all laugh. I seriously had my foot in my mouth today.

ASDA
Manky stray dog hanging around outside doors and J went to pet it. I said 'JJ no, that's a really manky dog, it's dirty, don't touch it'. With that this really rough woman a bit older than me said to the dog 'Charlie, come here' and gave me a look that virtually melted my flesh!!!

BANK
Sat in office opening an account for L which had a huge safe in it. I jokingly said to L (who was asleep) - 'Quick Leo, there's a safe full of money, let's grab it and make a quick getaway'. The guy opening my account (he was the manager) gave me a dirty look and said 'Please don't joke about it. We were robbed last week, the usual staff are on special leave this week as they were quite traumatised...'

FFFFUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKK

Might start a 'cringeworthy moments' thread. Am bored tonight (well aside from my screaming child...)

Wilkie!!!!!!! Your foot in mouth comments are v funny.

PCF - I've not used a teeth whitening kit before, this is a pricy package from the dentist so it means I have really thin flexible moulds for my teeth (can barely feel them when on) and some bleach that works from within. Been warned about sensitive teeth though. Starting it tomorrow or sunday cos have been drinking red wine tonight! Or should I say drinking vinorouge!

well we heard at work today that there is the possibility of redundancies by Oct. Looks like we are all going to be performance assessed. Hopefully I will be ok but you can never be sure......

Wilkie rofl at your bank comments

PCF sounds like all is going well with you . Glad you had a lovely time at the wedding.

Lal I understand you've had a fun weekend....hope L's boobs are retunring to a normal size!

Thanks for all your comforting words. Well, P only ran into my shoulder when running to give me a bedtime hug before dh put her to bed tonight, and banged her mouth again. Cue excessive bleeding and screams. Am hoping a lot of the screams were tired related but think her tooth is even lower / wonkier now. She has gone to bed with a blood smeared face and a blood smeared bear now covered in plasters.

Discovered colief yesterday and not sure if it's coincidence or not, but B hasn't been too windy this last 24 hrs. Had another (dark green) poo today - 3 days after the last one. Will ring dr's tomorrow for the apoointment.

Vino will contact you once I've spoken to docs.

Got another M&S dine in meal for tea tonight. And another glass of vino.

My baby is 5 today I was in labour 5 years ago .

Had a fun weekend aidan hasnt been to great on and off and we also found out last week that he has a tight foreskin and may need to be circumcised [sp] in the future. I have been full of cold dont know why I bothered going to work on saturday really.

Got a call on saturday from dh to say that lauren had got hold of my pills and he dident know how many she had taken . I was fuming at myself for leaving them around and that dh wasnt watching her properly. He picked me up from work and I called eandh who posted on mnet and also got me the number for our local hospital and out of hours doctor.

It all turned out ok and she dident need to go to hospital thank god, mansfield hospital on a saturday night niicccccccceeeee (not).

Yesterday it was aidans party and 4 kids dident turn up so that was a waste of £ 32.00 which really pissed me off as you pay in advance. He still had a fab day though. So my next big adventure is in 2 weeks time when I meet up with eandh at legoland, cant wait.

Rgee poor p hope she is better soon poor little thing she has been in the wars. Glad b has taken to the colief my friend used that with her dd and found a huge difference in her.

Pcf hows little t he is such a cutie as were the pics of pirate a on facebook.

Wilkie lol at you and your big trap I managed to put my foot in it with eah mil on facebook . How are the boys ?

Vino how are e and s ? I just cant get over how alike e and lauren are with there blond hair.

Lizz how id dj did he have a good time with daddy? Bet you enjoyed your peace and quiet.

Eandh aidan says thanks for his pressie he took his wallet to school to show his teacher .

2happy/urban/loosh/dragon/nemo where are you all ?

Right best go tidy up as my folks and mil are round later for aidans birthday.

Hello to dragon/2happy/urban where are you all ?

Just a quickie - before I loose the plot entirely.
I had a fab week of peace & quiet. Then ever since Sunday lunchtime I have been bombarded with a weeks worth of tantrums. I feel like I am about to go mad. Its constant.
If this is what its going to be like whenever he goes away with Daddy I don't want him to do it again, its not worth it.
I have basically been screamed at for the last 36 or whatever hours.
After a magnificent one on Sunday afternoon, I more or less decided I would NEVER be having another child again.
No one else's children seem to have these major meltdowns. (at least in public anyway)
Its enough to drive someone to drugs/alcohol etc.
I can't wait to drop him off at nursery and go to work.

I have an interview for a FT job in a couple of weeks time which I was really not sure about (FT hours etc) but after the last couple of days, all I can think of it - wow, FT work, what a break!
Does that make me a bad mother? Is it a terrible thing to say?
It took me 45 minutes to walk home from the park yesterday with him screaming at me the whole way about fire engines. (we had made a diversion at his request to see them).
Thats just the tip of the ice berg.
Right, have to go, he is screaming at me to 'clean' his slide as its wet.

Sorry for me, me, me rant. I'm going bananas.

Oh Lizz - what a nightmare.

Firstly you are not a bad mother for considering FT work as a break. It is infinitely easier being at work than with a screaming wittering toddler. But make sure you are considering it for the right reasons, you don't want to regret the decision once DJ is being lovely again.

Have you read Toddler Taming? Vino has my copy but you can borrow it when she is done OR Amazon do great second hand copies nice and cheap. It gives you some good tips.

JJ has had a few meltdowns recently so it is either the age or the fact that L has arrived. I personally go for the ignore technique. I actually walked off in Asda whilst he sprawled on the floor screaming and he eventually got up and followed me.

Personally, if he was screaming at me to clean his slide I wouldn't do it but explain that I would do it if he asked nicely and then go off and do something else until he has calmed down. HOWEVER, it is very easy to 'suggest' remedies for other people's children when you are not the parent or are not there.

If he is really as bad as you say, why don't you talk to your HV and see if they have any suggestions (my HV is actually brilliant but am aware many are sh*te).

Hope that all makes sense and you don't think I am preaching or anything, just trying to think of a few suggestions. Email/ring me if you want a natter.

LAL - Glad A's party went well, bummer about the children not turning up. very rude imo. Did the parents apologise? When do you find out for def if he needs a circumsision? A girl I work with, her boyfriend (21) had to have one recently for the same sort of issue. (he would be so mortified if he knew she'd told us all!!) but it didn't take him too long to recover.

Wilks/PCF - thanks for the vote of confidence!
I have the Toddler Taming book in a tips version. It basically sums the actual book up as "its all about control". 60% of the time he is lovely and gorgeous. But 40% of the time he is a nightmare!
People have suggested for me to 'leave him' places when he has a meltdown, but I know that he would get up and run off somewhere. So doing what you did in Asda with J would not result in him following me! He runs off at speed given half a chance. It terrifies me that he will run into a road. We have a little life back pack which he is good about wearing though.

I'm not going to worry about the FT job until they offer it to me! (positivity!) its an admin position at the council so would be nice and handy. BUT I would have to do my sums as I am not sure if its worth it £ wise to actually work full time until he gets his 15 hours free nursery.

Incidentally, I had his nursery open evening today. His keyworker thinks he is hilarious and has no qualms about his behaviour at all. She says its just a phase and they all go through it. She also showed me his 'art work' he's quite into sticking etc...at nursery. Whenever I try he's not interested but he does tons of it there. Weird.

Right. Best tidy my house up and get started on the himalayan proportion of ironing which I have acculmulated from having a week of none!

sorry for ranting on about me.
hope everyone else is ok.

ps. DJ has outrageous bum/nappy rash at the moment. I think its from him eating a ton of melon & pineapple yesterday. He keeps telling me has a sore bum hole. At least he is specific! x

Hi lizz no I havent had any apologies, one of the mums did give the teacher a present to pass onto me for aidan .

Lauren has terrible meltdowns and has a evil and I mean evil temper. I cannot leave lauren in a supermarket on the floor as she would just run off.

I do find ignoring her is the best way but then I feel if you are out and about you just get that evil stare .

When im at home if she starts I just take her to her bedroom it does sound like she is kicking the walls down but it does result in her coming out of her room and saying sorry.

I think if l had been born first I may not have had another . I did totally dread going on holiday with her and had many conversations with eandh about my worries but it wasnt all that bad. It was hard in the day but I did manage to get her to sleep in her buggy for a few hours in the evenings just enough time to have a few vodies and coke.

Im sure it is a phase they go through roll on the teenage years .

We have to give it a few years with aidan as they dont like to do it until around 7 to 8 years as it can get better as they get older and he may not need to have it done. The only thing is that if it hurts him he has to put up with it until he gets to that age . Dh suffered with it at that age as well as having a hernia so im thinking maybe aidan will have to be done .

Enjoy your ironong ..... not .....

Lizz - no help with tantrums but huge consolsing hugs and in the faint hope of making you feel better Hattie can throw a huge tantrum, one of the things that works for her is naughty step (we tried and tried with Ellie she never got the idea of it) but generally she is just a moody stroppy 2 year old about 80% of the time!

Hi all

Had a fab day today chez Vino and VinoJunoirs . E & S are so cute! Am soon about to tuck into her ginger cake that she sent me home with. Nom nom.
Must do it again soon. Talking of which, Wilkie - have emailed you .

Lizz I was telling Vino today about the biggest tantrum P had last week in M&S. And I was with mil. I had to bend her in the middle and force her into the pushchair (P that is, not mil). Big sympathies. Working is much easier than being a SAHM.

Eah so what do you have planned for the summer break then to keep you sane the kids entertained?

Lal hope you are feeling better. SOunds like you had a very busy weekend despite feeling poorly.

PCF hope you had a lovely time with your friend. I find the days go much quicker if I see people. .

2H Vino and I were talking about you today as we looked at the photos from when you were all here. Come back if you're lurking and say hello.

Right, am off to finish my Tesco shop. Finally.

Random info. I have a spot in my ear which is very sore. Waiting for dh to get finish mending puncture in buggy so that he can squeeze it for me! Delightful.

Lizz - I like working and could not be a SAHM. Different things are right for different people. If the full time job is with the council then if you did findit too much its the sort of place where it would prob be easy to reduce your hours. And money wise, if you could manage until DJ gets nursery funding you'll benefit from that saving when the funding starts. I cannot wait as I have a big sigh every month when we pay the nursery bill.

Hello to everybody lurking!!!

LAL - very rude about the mums not turning up when you had paid for a party. Glad A had a good time.

E&H - I'm sure you'll have plenty up your sleeve for the summer hols.

We are off to the great yorkshire show tomorrow which I'm looking forward to. Dad is exhibiting some eggs there so am going with him, mum, e&s. I was trying to explain E what would be happening and said we were going to a big field where there would be some animals and things to eat and buy. She then told me she wanted to ride a tractor!

So glad its not just me with the tantruming child! It takes ages to do anything these days. I need to allow more time for even the smallest task, to factor in tantrumingtime !!

Anyway....
nothing of interest to say. Really should get the vacuum cleaner out, but its hot, and I'm tiered. So I am on here instead.

x

morning - we are back from our on eplanned thing so cue tantruns from Hattie (current tantrum is because the adverts dared to come on between fireman sam episodes plus she got up at 5.15am)

Ellie is practising her writing cue me having to spell words phonic form for her as I am not allowed to see what she is writing oh God its going to be a long day tahnkfully most of the next 2.5 weeks we have things booked!

Fucking hell! What a mare of two days. L screeching all day yesterday and J whinging, wittering and tantrumming today - he got a smacked bum this morning. God he is trying my patience - where is that Toddler Taming book......................................

oops...what have i started?!

Was just talking to my sister who has twin boys starting school in Sept (4 in August) apparently (brace yourself) there are testosterone surges in boys at ages 4 and 14 and these are the worst ages.
Gulp.
So, its going to get worse before it gets better, and then its going to get worse again.

LTH!!!!!!!!!!!! Where are you. Please tell us this is all wrong and the books are lying!

eah - DJ goes bananas if I put on an 'old fireman sam' and not a new one. And also, with Thomas, I have to read out each programme synopsis on Sky+ so I get the correct episode. Its not fun!

• how many days until they start school/nursery?

wilkie - did you smack in public or at home? I swear I have to hold myself back from walloping him really badly sometimes. A sharp tap on the hand just doesn't cut the mustard with DJ!

Yea Lizz - it's all your fault .

I find disciplining sooooo hard (mainly because I am soft and usually find her misdemeanours quite funny). Not sure that is a very good way to parent though - laughing at her. But atm I am fortunate that she doesn't do meltdowns on a regular basis.
Hate to tell you but when I spoke to my dsis last week, she told me her youngest (approaching 4) was in the midst of a testosterone surge. And she is a parentng guru .

Wilkie B is 12 weeks today. For the past few weeks I've been repeating to myself how it gets much better at 3 months......

Eah hope today sn't too trying! How many days left until school starts again??

Vino hope you had a fab day at the GYS and your dad's eggs win a prize. The weather is lovely here atm.
BTW I would have squeezed your spot. I enjoy the satisfaction of oozing white gunk from spots .

Just got in from a lovely walk - B still asleep (2 hours now) so managed to have a relaxing lunch.