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F(l)ab Feb 2009: Primark pants and teething rants

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dinkystinky · 04/06/2009 19:42

A brand new sparkling thread to mark the four month mark for our bubs

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mumoverseas · 17/06/2009 07:22

morning all,
bumps, hope you managed to get back to sleep ok. We had a terrible night here, H was up most of the night and now DH has just left for the airport and won't be back til 10th July DS1 left last night so all alone with DCs 3 & 4 til he returns on 28th June.

STW, hope everything goes ok at hospital today and you hopefully get some answers

dinkystinky · 17/06/2009 07:53

Bumps - sending you huge hugs and many commiserations.MoS sorry you had a bad night too - must have been something in the air as also had a horrific night with Danny - slept from 7 till 12.20 so great start but then awake till 3,30 (during which time he was sick all over the place from overfeeding - nice), dozed in bed with me till 5 then awake for the day from then. DS1 was also awake lots last night coughing his poor little guts out. Am absolutely shattered this morning but the littlest insomniac is full of beans (despite yawning every 5 minutes). Must keep repeating mantra "This is just a phase - it too will pass" to myself...

MoS - am hoping you'll be ok with DD2 and DS2 on your own. It sounds like you've lined up several things already to keep you busy so hopefully time will fly until DS1 and DH are back with you. Also well done on joining Weightwatchers.

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dinkystinky · 17/06/2009 07:54

P.s. STW - good luck with the paed appointment today.

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littleboyblue · 17/06/2009 07:56

With the smoking, am really proud of myself, bit of a shame that the others haven't joined me yet, but I did this for me and my children, so not too bothered, it's just hard when I'm with them. The only one showing any consideration is my friend Ian who is moving out of my eye sight to have a fag, I told him not to worry about it, but he does which is nice. (just means I sometimes have 4 children to watch!!)
dinky Pain wasn't too bad after, numbed it with a bottle of wine last night!!
I have a big hole in my gum. Feels weird.
STW Good luck for Sam at the hospital today. Hope you get some answers.

Sorry some are having rough nights. Luke woke twice but settled fine with just his dummy.
Off to get dp some stuff for fathers day today. I'm only going to poundland though

Ds1 has spilt milk all over the floor and Luke is grizzling in his door bouncer. Better go and sort them out!

bumpsnowjustplump · 17/06/2009 09:16

ds finally went back to sleep at 5 only to wake again at 6..... dairy free for me all the way now me thinks!!!!!

PinkTulips · 17/06/2009 10:11

sorry for the rough nights ladies... aaron tried it on at about 3am too but think he was just sweaty and annoyed at being covered in milk as he settled down again once i changed the sheets and stripped him off... in fact he's only just surfaced now and is it great form for the first time in days. think the huge poo must have helped as i got the impression he was a bit bunged up the last few days.

bumps, sorry you have to go dairy free again but at least you have the reassurance now of knowing for certain what the problem is iyswim? i know with dd i went through patches of thinking 'is this all in my head? maybe she's not intolerant to anything and i'm just being paranoid', then she'd react to something and i'd be almost relieved in a way as it was proof that she did have a problem with milk/wheat and we were doing the right thing.

stw... good luck today

ouch on the teeth lbb, hope it's improved today

SweetTalkinWoman · 17/06/2009 13:17

Grrr... very frustrated here. Seen paediatrician who wants to do some tests on Sam but in the meantime has given me a presciption to take to GP to get an NHS prescription for some Neocate formula. GP reception says they can't do this - I have to pay for the first prescription then get a letter from hospital for GP to consider repeat prescriptions. However, each tin of formula costs £25 and only lasts a couple of days - I just can't afford it (insurance doesn't cover prescriptions). So we're back at square one really. Worse actually as paediatrician says not to give soya formula as has consequences etc....

Will be down at GP's surgery sobbing until I get a presciption. Not an effort today as close to tears anyway. Just having "one of those days". Again.

dinkystinky · 17/06/2009 16:35

That is ridiculous STW - you have a paed prescription for your GP to complete so the paed clearly thinks it is needed. How dare the receptionists or the GP tell you no! Am furious on your behalf. Please do kick up a fuss and cry at your GP. I know all GPs have budgets to adhere to and so they try not to give prescriptions where possible but you are on maternity leave and have a small baby that the prescription is for so the NHS should definitely be covering this prescription not you! Grrr.

Pink - glad your little man is in a better mood. Danny has unsurprisingly been in a cranky tired frame of mind all day - he went into meltdown towards the end of baby massage today (and caused a tsunami of screaming babies all round us - we were not popular with the meditation workshop going on next door ) and I suspect he's bunged up with poo too as keep seeing tiny traces of poo on his bum hole but havent had a poo-nami for a good few days now.

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mumoverseas · 17/06/2009 17:44

am knackered today. Thought I'd try to get in a bit of proper exercise to kick start my weight loss so walked to the park this morning with DCs 3 & 4 and spent around an hour there then home and fed them then went to 'buggy boot camp' which I signed up for last week. I'd timed it just right as DD fell asleep just before we got there and slept until we got home and DS slept a lot of the time and even when he woke he was really good, just kept laughing.
There was just 5 of us doing walking, jogging, nasty lunges, step ups etc. My legs are killing me so don't think I'll be walking far tomorrow. Shame as I'd intended taking the gruesome twosome to Chessington before my annual pass expires next week.

STW what a ridiculous situation. As dinky says, you really need to kick up a fuss and kick arse at the doctors as clearly you need the prescription.

Am dreading bedtime tonight, don't know how I'm going to get them both to bed without reinforcements

dinkystinky · 17/06/2009 18:48

The poo-nami has landed in the dinky household - all over the change mat before Danny's bath Fingers crossed he sleeps better tonight as a result.

MoS - am v impressed at all your activities today. A nice warm bath once you've got DD2 and DS2 down tonight will help you ease your legs up abit and try to do a few gentle stretches - you'll be glad of them tomorrow. Hope the bedtime hour goes ok with your two and they let you get some sleep in tonight.

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PinkTulips · 17/06/2009 20:15

load of bloody bollox 'they don't get constiptated if you breastfed' isn't it?!

fingers crossed he's a happier bunny tonight then

SweetTalkinWoman · 17/06/2009 20:26

Hurrah for a pre-sleep poo Dinky!!! We had a gro-bag poo tonight - he's like a human sausage machine at the moment!

MOS - Hope bedtime went smoothly tonight. Would second a nice warm bath for the aches! Mind you - I haven't had a bath since way before Sam was born, seems like the last thing on the list in an evening...

Sadly the tears didn't work this afternoon . Still no formula. The GP wouldn't write a prescription based on the private paediatrician's prescription. I was instead advised to buy Nutramigen over the counter at £16 a tin. However I can't buy it without a prescription and I can't get an NHS prescription until I've seen an NHS paediatrician. I'm so over the whole thing but am persevering with the GP.

Have had pizza and wine to comiserate with DH tonight. Now we are both moaning about being fat. We can;t win. We are watching Breaking Bad on FX which is brill.

Off to comiserate further with chocolate!

Cocodrillo · 17/06/2009 20:34

R poos every two days, and then, when he finally lets rip, it coats his bodysuit, his trousers, I'm digging it out from between his toes, and in his belly button. Hope you're not eating .

Me and DH are booooored this evening. Long for the kids to go to bed all day long, and when they do I don't know what to do! I've suggested telly and ebaying all our clutter but he's not up for that. Maybe I'll get my book.

I'm a fat bastard these days, so should do some exercise. It's got so if I see my reflection from the neck down I just think jesus that can't be me and look away QUICKLY.

Took DD2 to her conductive education physio group earlier. She goes every two weeeks, its an hour drive each way, and lasts two hours. Poor DS just has to sit in his car seat watching. He's been very good the other weeks I've taken him, but he's much more alert and awake in the day these days, and was mightily pissed off by it all today. Must sort out a babysitter I suppose....

Cocodrillo · 17/06/2009 20:37

LOL at human sausage machine

That is so stupid re the prescription for the formula. They're all mental! Your baby needs to eat, but can't because of a load of twuntish - to coin MOS's phrase - bureacracy.

dinkystinky · 17/06/2009 20:48

That is unbelievable STW - did the GP let you know when you can expect to see a NHS paediatrician then??? No wonder you've hit the pizza, wine and chocolate - I would do too in your situation. My colleague's little boy had terrible eczema as a baby and after lots of investigation (and the mum stopping all dairy while breastfeeding) they diagnosed a bad cows milk allergy - they started using Nanny goat milk powder for him and he got much better. I think its still quite expensive compared to normal formula powder but cheaper than the specialist powders you've been referred to - may it be worth trying that out while sorting out the medics and their crap? Love the thought of your DS as a sausage factory though Danny is more of a hold it all in for 5 days or more then have an explosion in a curry factory type episode. You need to catch it quickly - or clear the area - or its really rather nasty.

Coco - god, there is no way in hell Danny would ever be chilled for 2 1 hour drives and 2 hours of sitting watching. Am impressed that R hasnt kicked off before now. Definitely time to look out a babysitter.

Pink - oddly enough DS1 was exactly the same as Danny with only pooing every 5 to 7 days as a baby when exclusively bf. He actually became more regular with his poos when he moved to mixed feeding - go figure

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mslucy · 17/06/2009 21:41

I'm afraid Stan has inherited the poo gene - all of us go loads in this house (esp DH!!!!).
He usually does 2 large-ish poos and a couple of mini ones a day.
He is still on the boob (with a couple of vague attempts at giving him baby cereal) though I plan to give him some hungry baby formula in the next day or two as I am doing some teaching in the next few weeks and will be leaving him for a few mornings (sob).
It's a real shitter as I don't think I can make the meet up - would love to have come along and would have been great as DS1 is in school until 3 and I could actually have talked to people rather than just chase round him.
Haven't got much on in Aug though, so if anyone fancies hooking up later in the summer.

littleboyblue · 18/06/2009 02:56

STW Wtf?????????? £25!!!!!!!!
Get yourself down to that doctors tomorrow and kick some arse! Seriously, start shouting. I've never heard anything so ridiculous in my life! How frustrating fr you all.
mos Hope they went to bed ok for you.
My exercise class thingy doesn't involve running andall that, is mostly in one spot and is more stretching and yoga moves and things.

Had one of those bloody days too. Went into Hounslow shopping earlier. Let ds1 out of pushchair so instead of walk with me, he was chasing pigeons (fine at this point), then I look at my watch and think gosh it's been ten past eleven for ages! look at my phone and it's actually 12:35 (I'm still ok now). Go to McD's for lunch and ds1 sat at the table properly instead of high chair, but halfway through decided he wanted to try to get behind the counter instead (getting ump slightly) I told him if he didn't sit down he wouldn't have aything else to eat until dinner time, he ate a bit more but not much, so we left. Went to Primark. No one stops to let me past down the isles (really getting pissed off now) Luke and Jacob are screaming, I find a few t-shirts for ds1, but cue is 15 miles long so left. Pile up at the entrance an divvy woman just stops in the bloody door way (wanna scream at her!) Off to Argos, get in cue, Luke starts screaming for feed. Woman in front of me is told at the till that her item is out of stock (ffs, this is why those pads are by the catalogues), so wait for her to find a different item, finally get served, wait ages for my item to come, Luke still screaming. Off to mothercare to warm bottle and feed rat-bag, minute set foot in there, he fine. Go to change room, let ds1 out to play with toys in there, feed Luke but he only wants 3oz, battled with him to take bit more, but wants none of it. Quick nappy change and out. Wonder around shop for while and notice fly following ds1, so sniff him and he smells of poo. Back to change room. He screaming and squirming,me hands covered in poo (need a brandy!) back into shop, Luke starts screaming. Now he smells of poo, so back in change room. Back out to shop, Luke screaming again, wants rest of bottle. I won't even go through the winding bit. Anyway, finally leave mothercare. Get to bus stop and realise there is a book in ds1's hand that I have not paid for, but as at other end of high street f it. Waited for 3rd bus because too many pushchairs around. Finally get on bus. Driver keeps letting on other pushchairs and I'm getting the evils because theirs and mine won't both fit in the bay. One woman even asked me to fold mine up!!!!!! Checky cow. Exact words "can't you fold your pushchair up? My baby is younger than yours and is asleep." Finally got off bus and the bag holding my new shoe rack splits. Think I'll go straight home, but decide to take boys to playgroup. Ds1 is bitten on his arm. The mark was so deep, looked so painful and he was screaming!!!! The other boys mum had popped out for a fag, so someone else was telling him off. I was hugging ds1 who was calling for Nigel one of the staff, so Nigel took him to get a cold flannel. I went and found them a few minutes later and ds1 still doesn't want me, he clings to Nigel when I hold my arms out, so Nigel tkes him outside to kick a ball about. Someone went to find other boys mum who came back, was very apologetic and suitably upset. I told her not to worry, kids will be kids and all that. Ds1 would survive. She thanked me for being so calm and understanding. She took her ds outside to say sorry to mine. Jacob gave him a big hug and they played fine after that. His arm looks awful though . Another mum said to me that if that boy had bitten her ds, she'd have hit him! I told her it wouldn't do anyone any good to fly off the handle, would only upset us all more, and could have been worse, they could have been pushing each other and one split his head on the wall or something. Wish I'd just come home though.
Oh, and Luke rolled over all by himself this morning. Has not done it since, but ds1 was quite lazy too and only ever did it a few times.

littlesez · 18/06/2009 06:05

Hellllloooooooooooooooooooo!

I may have time to join you all again more regulary when the teething has calmed down! mmmm few months then!

Still loving motherhood here spending most days out at different baby groups and parks. Also swimming, Izzy loves it so much and it means my gym membership is being used for something!

Teething
I went to boots and bought the whole shop I got Anbesol, teetha, ashton and parsons, teething ring, cooling teething ring, gum massager. Think I may have overdone it! She was so bad i had to give calpol(last resort) yesterday. My nipples are sooooo sore she has been feeding/comforting constantly! Poor thing.

I hope your all well, is anyone pregnant again yet? I think I want to wait until Isobella is about 3 but we'll see, at least i can talk about having more children in the future. Big hugs to all mums and babes xxxx

littleboyblue · 18/06/2009 07:34

littlesez Hiya. Teething is awful isn't it? The bad news is it can go on for upto 2 years, the good news is that the pain gets a bit easier for them with each tooth. I had all that stuff for ds1 too. You've reminded me that I wanted to try Anbesol actually.
With ds1, we found bickiepegs to be quite good, and also frozen sticks of carrot seemed to help/relieve too.

Jacob's arm has a big toothy bruise on it. Loks horrible my poor baby

bumpsnowjustplump · 18/06/2009 07:56

LBB poor DS hope it heals quickly...

STW can you call paediatrician and explain what is happening and see if he can help in any way?

Calico1 · 18/06/2009 08:57

STW - what a crazy situation!!! Poor you - you must have been hoping to be able to make little Sam feel better and now you're just getting all of this madness

LBB I had a day like yours last week when I decided to take both DCs to Ikea on my own (please just shoot me if I ever mention again that I am thinking of doing this). Both of them had pooed within minutes of us getting into the store and then I realised that they didn't do trolleys with both toddler and baby seats so had to carry DD under my arm all the way around. In protest she vomited all over me and when I was trying to clean her up DS decided to run off and I lost him for a few heart stopping minutes until a kind chap offered to look for him and eventually found DS hiding underneath a display of fluffy rugs singing Baa Baa Black Sheep! I was a nervous wreck by the time I made it to the checkouts only to find they'd only do delivery on the child bed I wanted if I took it to the delivery area myself - now how was I going to be able to carry a bed, a baby and hold onto an errant toddler? The whole trip took hours and all I ended up with was a plastic salad bowl

Dinky at your poo-nami!

mumoverseas · 18/06/2009 11:37

morning all
LLB and Calico, what nightmare shopping trips you've both had. Now DH has gone back to KSA I'm dreading going shopping with the gruesome twosome. At the moment I have a crap folding double buggy which is side by side and doesn't fit in most shops. We have a little shop 10 mins walk from our house which would be great if I could get in it. Maybe the lack of food shopping will help my weight loss
Am bidding on ebay for a Phil and Teds, have to bite the bullet now as I always said I'd never get one
The lady running 'buggy boot camp' yesterday commented on the buggy when she tried moving it for me. Its a bugger to move, like the tescos shopping trolleys with the dodgy wheels.

dinky, we've had a few poo-namis since last night. I was thinking H was a little bit bunged up and felt terrible as I couldn't remember when he'd last done a poo (wasn't sure if DH had changed one in the last few days) He is normally an every other day man (DS that is, not DH) and I thought it was maye around 3 days and then he did a massive poo last night and when I was changing him he did the toothpaste thing and did a bit more then another in the night and another huge wet one just now which leaked through his new clothes I'd just put on him. Sorry, TMI. He is not normally like this and am wondering if maybe its something I'm eating that I didn't used to have in KSA? (ie pork!)

Was a nightmare getting them settled last night. DD finally fell asleep in my bed at around 9pm and I then transfered her into the guest room as she prefers the double bed to her little one. She stayed there til around 4am when she woke us up and then I got them both back to sleep around 5.30am and was woken at 8.30am with her chomping on my boob! She'd leaned over H and latched on, cheeky mare

Only managed a quick shower last night, no chance for a lovely bath as recommended and boy am I aching this morning.

bumpsnowjustplump · 18/06/2009 12:56

It never rains as they say..

In supermarket getting all my dairy free bit
s and ds starts crying. So pay for bits load car up and go back in to change him... He has had a poo explosion and it is all over me as well (I had him in the sling at time). It is green poo again and he is covered in a rash... I rush him to HV clinic and she thinks he has a virus which is why he has been so sick and has green poo. I have to keep a close eye on him to check he doesnt get temp or refuse feeds.. If he does we have to go to a&e...

So I still dont know if it is dairy doing this!!! I am still going to go dairy free but may not throw the ebm away just yet, that way we can test him with one bottle when he is better rather than me eating dairy and it taking two weeks to get out of my system!

DD has a cold and cough as well so he could have picked it up from her. So much for bf protecting him grrrrrrrrrrr He is the illest baby ever!!!

herbgarden · 18/06/2009 13:03

Morning ! or afternoon I s'pose now.
Calico - what a nightmare - I could just visualise me doing the same thing. I remember when you used to not even be able to take your trolley past that exit bit and had to leave all your stuff (potential for someone to nick it unless you're with someone who can watch it or you could physically carry it to your car) and then come back to load up. I always come out of ikea with something plastic and usually for the kitchen and 9/10 something I don't really need but felt sort of obliged to buy.

MOS I tend to bung a load on whilst DD is sleeping and DS occupying himself and then put it out to dry/tumble when DS is watching telly at lunchtime and DD in bed. DS tends to like to "help" with the pegs if we're pegging out so it becomes a little job for him.

DD projectile pooed all over me last night at her late feed. She's had a bit of a runny bottom the last few days but otherwise seems well in herself. I had her nappy off on the floor with me sitting bottom end facing her. All of a sudden this runny yellow poo shot out at the speed of light all over my jeans and t-shirt. It was so revolting I couldn't stop laughing. Uusally it's more like a Mr Whippy machine so at least it's a slow exit and doesn't go far .....sorry TMI but I felt a need to share .

Been to playgroup this morning with DS (and DD). DS is 3 next month but boy is he pushing my buttons in a big way. He whinges whines and wants my constant attention. Even at playgroup I can't move out of his sight without him screaming for me. It's pretty trying. Poor old DD doesn't get a look in when he's around. I was quite worried about when I go to work but he'll be at nursery 2 days then and then he's at playgroup 2 mornings so at least I may get some time with just DD and also some time to actually get stuff done (with just DD 2 days a week and not at work at the moment it's fairly easy whilst she's little )....I keep worrying that he's just going to be a bundle of nerves - he gets lots of cuddles from me and I try to spend as much one on one time as possible - he's lucky that his sister sleeps a lot as it could be much worse....moan moan.

I was very brave today and signed up to go out on the playgroup mums night out.....don't really know many of them and hope it's not too cliquey. The mum who runs the playgroup is quite "head girly" - sorry for any of you who might have been but hopefully you get my drift and a bit intimidating so hopefully some of the other mums might be nice. I know people round here but not many and as DS gets older it's nice to meet other mums who are at the same stage as me.

Right, waiting for a builder to come round to give me a quote for our extension. So far he's an hour late - wonder if I got the wrong day ?!

PinkTulips · 18/06/2009 14:52

o dear god the screaming.

he won't stop screaming, has been at it for hours, occasionally settles but then freaks out if he's moved so much as an inch

have resorted to neurofen, hoping it'll kick in soon